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[–]TheAtomicMango 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

[–][deleted] 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

A factual, on topic, polite post.

That's the beautiful Ghazi banhammer in action!

A strong early lead!

[–]Doomblaze 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

isnt posting a polite post sealioning though?

[–][deleted] 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, it's quite easy to check, just follow this simple guide:

==How to tell if I'm Sealioning==

1) Am I a feminist?

If you're asking this question, then you've already started on the wrong foot. Quick, you must state that you are feminist or an ally!

2) But I don't really understand what feminism means, I mean, women being treated equally, hasn't that been the law for like 30 years or something?

Oh dear, if you think this, then you are already sealioning!

3) Am I a PoC, or other underprivileged group, or am I cis, holding hetero-normative opinions, do I actively oppose the patriarchy, have I been complicit in knowingly or unknowingly perpetuating rape culture?

If you don't understand what that means, then you need to shut up, and stop sealioning

4) Do I have evidence to back up your assertion?

This is not just irrelevant, but insulting to the lived experience of another person. You're definitely sea lioning.

5) But I'm still really confused, you still haven't explained what sealioning actually is!

Fuck off shitlord, I'm not here to educate you on basic fucking concepts. GTFO, you're banned from Ghazi.

[–]Doomblaze 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

hahaha thanks, that clears things up for me

[–]Doomblaze 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Actually it doesnt, what teh fuck

[–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see you're experiencing cognitive dissonance.

Don't worry! That pain in your head will pass, so long as you don't think too hard! Just accept what I say, and all will be well. Listen to my voice, and you will come to understand and believe what is true.

Don't think about it again, or the pain will return!

[–]Doomblaze 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

gasp it worked. I starting taking everything you said at face value and all my worries disappeared

[–]Jasperkr672 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is a Ghazoon really comparing the men's rights subreddit with Stormfront? Keep it classy, I guess...

[–]Waiguo 21ポイント22ポイント  (12子コメント)

I dared to suggest that there was more than one person in KiA. I was only banned after I edited my post to correct my grammar, Ghazi hates grammar?

https://archive.today/yp4PG

[–][deleted] 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

Wow, banned for making an apology and agreeing with them!

Bonus points for being one of two people banned in a single thread. /u/guyjin was banned as well: http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2i9ghs/hey_gamergate_and_kia_if_you_really_care_about/cl1mh44?context=10000

[–]Waiguo 16ポイント17ポイント  (9子コメント)

For as much as the dish it out, they do not like snarkiness

[–]guyjin 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

They believe that if you're explaining yourself, you're losing, while if you're being snarky you're somehow 'inherently right' and don't have to explain yourself.

Use snark with them every chance you get.

[–][deleted] 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

That reminds me of this lovely article, that picks apart the awful rhetorical devices that our opponents just love to use to make themselves seem intelligent:

http://alfredmacdonald.com/2012/12/26/dissecting-the-frog-on-sarcastic-paraphrase/

Sarcastic Paraphrase

This device is discourse cancer. Seriously. If you mapped the downfall of a forum relative to how frequently this device is used, I would bet money you could get a strong positive correlation going. There is this mistaken assumption that satire, including this kind of satire, is intelligent or witty or indicative of intellectual sophistication. It is none of those things. Satire is easy. Writing like The Onion isn’t hard. The sarcastic paraphrase is one of the laziest ways to argue, because it doesn’t require a clear and coherent logical structure — the terms of argument are implied. As such, fallacies are harder to expose.

The sarcastic paraphrase presents a loud or obnoxious mocking paraphrase of the opponent’s position with a counter-position implied through the sarcasm. (It does not have to be in all caps. You can sound sarcastic if you write with exclamation points, too!) This should be easy to visualize, but as an example:

Megan: I don’t think we can sustain social security into the 21st century.

Christina: HHAAHAHA BECAUSE LETTING POOR PEOPLE STARVE IS SO PROGRESSIVE AND FORWARD-THINKING.

[–]TheAtomicMango 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ugh, yeah, finally there's a term for it. I've met so many toxic :) people who use sarcastic paraphrasing. They can never form a logical argument, and it seems to be the only response they can come up with.

They think it's clever, when people who look in from the outside are just going, "What?"

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Say 'toxic' again. Say 'toxic' again, I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker, say toxic one more Goddamn time!

No seriously, I'm now stalking your profile. If you say it again, no matter the context, I will take a gigantic shit on you from a great, great height. We're talking Dinosaur shit dropping from orbit.

Savvy?

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Once I had a dream about you, but you weren't a dinosaur, which was disappointing.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cryptic comments and then poof... gone.

"VeryAwesome69 is shadowbanned or deleted"

[–]TheAtomicMango 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

._. t-t-t...toxicology!

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

OoooOoooo you're testing me! ಠ_ಠ

[–]Waiguo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly what got me banned, I talked to a few of the commenters via inbox after the ban. They were mad that I trivialized the false reports by suggesting it was one of several thousand and not indicative of the whole

[–]Slimneb 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's their favourite go-to argument winner. It says in their rules that they don't want any pro-GG posts. So when someone posts something they don't like, they are told they are being pro-GG or 'brigading', ban them and then act like they have won an argument. It pisses me off everytime I see it happen. I DESPISE them.

[–]Deathcrow 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tut! tut!

https://np.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/frwvq/extra_credits_an_open_letter_to_ea_marketing/c1i6h01

Disagreeing with the hivemind in two subreddits no less! This is a brave poster indeed.

Bonus points for pointing out just how ridiculously narrow their goal posts are. You can only be right if you fit these 25 criteria, plus any others that I make up later!

[–]Yurilica 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Asked for confirmation related to the swatting incident that got a dog killed, where Ghazi tried to pin it on GG.

Got banned for asking for additional info.

Turns out the swatting was completely unrelated to GG(related to some kind of Supernatural fandom), still not confirmed whether a dog was shot or not.

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asking a legitimate, on topic question.

How dare you! That's a ban!

[–]ItsAboutEthics 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I REMEMBER THAT.

Izzy Galvez got sooooo excited on twitter and wouldn't shut up about it! Then someone asked for evidence and..... silence.

Where is that shot-up dog anyway???!?!?!?

[–]kindraness 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got banned for real this time. For posting this image of Brianna Wu accusing GamerGate of gassing PAX...because one of her supporters threatened to gas PAX. I didn't even say anything pro-GG and actually got a couple upvotes on it before it was taken down XD

https://imgur.com/nAxgNCD

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pointing out that Brianna Wu might get something wrong?

Clearly, a bannable offence!

[–]kindraness 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a feeling they interpreted it as "pro-GG" even though Brianna Wu getting something (really) wrong doesn't really give GG points or anything, just means SHE is wrong.

[–]nakedlazer 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Barred my username because I posted this to 8chan later on. http://i.imgur.com/KliShYZ.png

Edit: I commented this in the controversial thread when the Ghazelle I argued with asked if GamerGhazi could fund a Kickstarter to deport Hotwheels from the Philippines. As you can see, he/she's not very bright.

[–]ZeusKabob 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your CIA contact Gini

Top kek.

[–][deleted] 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

>not knowing what the Gini co-efficient is

or even worse, that poster may know what it is and was trying humour again.

[–]Agent-Dale-Cooper 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/oibvkUb.png

You can be banned for literally advising them on ways to strengthen their own arguments.

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Common sense has no place in Ghazi, what were you thinking?!

Bonus points for been called a "little shit" by one of the mods :-)

[–]damonganto 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–][deleted] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Using a definition of rape that is widely considered correct by the criminal justice systems of every country in the world?

Definitely a ban for you!

[–]ZeusKabob 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

damonganto is sea-lioning in a thread about sea-lioning

Looks like you're a sea lion now.

[–]NixonDidNothingRong 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I copypasted a Youtube comment about Democrats. Why put effort into going in in good faith and typing up a big rant that they're going to dismiss anyway and call you Hitler when you can piss them off with boilerplate?

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excellent copypasta, duly stolen for future use!

It entertains me that I can now actually sympathise with that point of view (though not agree with it), having been exposed to the gamergate scandal and all it's trimmings for the past 6 months.

[–]Thunder_child0 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://reddit.com/r/AgainstGamerGate/comments/2vy31u/was_told_to_post_this_here/

TLDR Ghazelle asked "what would you do to sea lion a sea lion" and asked 5 questions. I answered the questions to get banned, got banned, and asked the question on a much better forum /r/againstgamergate

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

A round of applause for this poster!

That's a glorious post, informative, on topic, polite, referenced, formatted for legibility, open and willing to discuss.

Of course it was banned from ghazi!

[–]crudehumourisdivine 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone made a post about how they were sure GG'rs would have opposed civil rights and women's right to vote and I said they were fucking stupid.

e: here it is

[–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

And there's the race card!

Well played, Ghazi!

[–]razorbeamz 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can't find it, but it was something along the lines of

"ITT: People who only read the title of the article."

Only post there, got instabanned.

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

A good entry!

Sadly, you'd get downvoted anywhere on reddit for that particular bit of common sense, and many subs would want to have you banned for pointing out that they are illiterate idiots.

Woe is reddit!

[–]Jasperkr672 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I got banned for calling Zoe a domestic abuser, pathological liar, sexual harasser, hate crime commiting transphobe, charity sabotager and HellDump troll.

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Goodness, when you put it like that, it's almost like she might be a terrible person!

Was this on a different account perhaps? All I could find was:

[–]Jasperkr672 1 point 28 days ago

This is absolutely disgusting. I DEMAND that this mod is stripped of his mod rights.

Here: http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2sz1ij/femacampcounselor_a_rgamerghazi_mod_is_a/cnu70rn

Which is actually rather more entertaining.

[–][deleted] 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

All i said was "Top Kek"

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brilliant!

Extra marks for brevity of post. It's even better in the absence of context!

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Congratulations to /u/TimThePin for going out in this blaze of glory: http://imgur.com/5urONLE

Take a bow!

Bonus points for having an 8chan thread dedicated to your glorious exit from ghazi: http://8ch.net/gamergate/res/356881.html

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks I guess. Funny how it went from 'Milo is wrong' to 'Why does it even matter'.

[–]NotJIm99 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I said that nothing of value was lost when the console versions of Gone Home got cancelled.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That reminded me to look at the metacritic user reviews and steam reviews. Made my day :-)

Also, it's tagged as "walking simulator". AHHHHAhahhahhaahHAHHAHah.

[–]ItsAboutEthics 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my fucking god.

This wins. Ban of the day week month Year???

[–]Carpeaux 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had just recently started reading about gamergate, incited by watching Sarkeesian on the Colbert Report, and didn't realize I couldn't defend it on gamerghazi. The most absurd thing is: I was banned for defending myself in a thread they started about something I wrote on /r/kotakuinaction!

Here's the comment: https://archive.today/ZlZ3T

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit dude, that whole comment thread is delightful, I loved your rebuttal!

http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2ktds9/at_least_hes_being_honest/clolshj

Pointing out that the Ghazi poster had little interest in videogames was a stroke of genius! Comparing their treatment of a medium they're not interested in with a medium that they are; brilliant! And of course, your points went completely unanswered!

You're the worst kind of person to them, someone who has a different opinion to them, but which is perfectly rational. Note that my political affiliation would be in direct conflict with yours, but we would be capable of having a reasonable conversation about things that we disagree. Compare and contrast with GamerGhazi!

[–]Meowsticgoesnya 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was banned a while back during Geordie Tait and said "hey, I don't see a thread about this, can't we agree he's in the wrong", and some were like "yeah he did wrong", but then they deleted the thread and banned me.

Or it was someone else, it was one of the more nasty anti-gg folk at least.

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh, meow!

Pointing out that someone on their side is wrong! What on earth were you thinking, meow!

Of meow that's a meow worthy meow.

Meow, meow meow meow meow meow! Meow!

😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaEmCFiNqP0

Edit: Found it! https://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2jhpr6/this_is_the_main_againstgamergate_sub_i_know_of/

Interesting, 4 months ago, they were quite a lot less circlejerk. Still demonstrably wrong, but at least they wrote in full comprehensible sentences.

[–]shard972 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh wow, that post they linked to as proof of it already being discussed was posted by my /r/australia account. that account got banned for that post too.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

By "discussed", apparently they meant "deleted so no one would see the kind of awful shit that journos actually write".

>Subtle Australian trolling

Y'all may be the greatest shitposters in existence, but you've a lot to learn about making gr8 b8.

[–]planet5421 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just got banned from Ghazi for saying Baphomet is not related to Gamergate. A small amount of research would let you know that Baphomet does all it can to fuck over Gamergate. They know Gamergate is against doxxing and personal threats and do it to fuck over our image. They call us Gaymergators and actively hate us.

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2x70d3/so_an_old_wrestling_friend_of_mine_suddenly/

Gamergate is not Baphomet.

Responded with:

Yeah, baphomet just happens to primarily target people critical of Gamergate, and they just happen to mostly hold the same beliefs as Gamergaters. Absolutely no overlap between the two groups whatsoever. Nope. None at all.

Bullshit.

:D

Did you know that the same people who use GamerGhazi are also responsible for "The Fappening"? It's the same people on the same website!

Jesus, these people are so technologically incompetent, it's fucking funny.

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I got banned from Ghazi! For asking them to explain their views.

I asked KiA to explain their views and got a reasoned response....Go figure :/

[–]apogeearth 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's not a metric gauging how quantifiably 'welcoming' the gaming 'neighborhood' is. That is an opinion poll. Pew asked everyone in the study if they thought gaming was a welcoming place. that doesn't actually provide any empirical information about how welcoming it may or may not be. It's pretty clear the the common perception of gaming is rather negative.

Foolishly expecting Ghazi to respond reasonably to reason.

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

How dare you critically evaluate an opinion poll! That's a ban!

>Writing Ghazi and Reason in the same sentence

Oh you!

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hi, I heard this was the place to mention this:

I was banned from gamerghazi for saying "Forgiveness is a powerful thing". In response to this post:

http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2x084t/brianna_wu_responds_to_the_jace_connors_hoax_my/

The comment:

http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2x084t/brianna_wu_responds_to_the_jace_connors_hoax_my/covv4ih

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, no, no. The correct answer to this kind of behaviour is a lengthy jail sentence! After all, a comedian with Aspergers deserves nothing less than prison rape!

I never thought I'd ever say this, but these people need to learn some lessons from Jesus :-)

They have to, absolutely have to, make "internet harassment" out to be as serious a crime as actual assault or rape or murder. Even when that ridiculous idea was so effectively deconstructed by the SVU episode, they still have to go on insisting that bad words over the internet necessitate jail sentences. No sense of nuance, no sense of the magnitude of the legal precedent, the balance between liberty and hurt feelings.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Take a bow /u/JennofHardwire for this series of factual, accurate, on topic posts, that clearly require a ban (we can't have people accessing the truth on Ghazi, now can we!):

No, I'm saying you know perfectly well (esp with your admission here about Chan posting) that this is a troll with an aim to harass everyone discussing the #GamerGate scandal - they have no "allegiance" or sincerity here - it's a troll. This blatant tossing around of serious and gross threats/harassing remarks pertaining to rape or death (or similar) is how trolls function, they desire an emotional response from anyone. I've said all that's necessary here and don't really have comment beyond this. I understand you disagree with me, I'm sorry you couldn't see it from my perspective. I hope you have a nice day.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2xxnil/every_time_a_gator_tries_to_say_they_dont_harass/cp4g996?context=10000

[–]jennofhardwire 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hah Being banned wasn't really a goal or anything though. I just wanted to supply my point of view on the matter since I found the title of that thread to be very misleading. In the mod glitch's AMA last month, he explicitly remarked that Ghazi is purposefully a safe house for them [anti-GamerGate] (Brianna Wu has attested Anti-GG is a movement) and not meant for gamers interested in discussing #GamerGate to participate so I'm not surprised I was banned. The sidebar also explains such.

[–]revolution600 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2xvst6/i_need_some_links_please_help/cp3wju1?context=3

Offered to help them debunk a bunch of rumours and out-of-context smears gamergate is spreading about anti-gg figureheads. Presumably they banned me because one of them is actually true.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your post was informative, neutral, on topic, polite. Obviously a bannable offence!

Sucking dog cock.

Sucking dog cock

Sucking dog cock

Sucking dog cock

Who are these people? How do they all manage to find an audience on the internet?

[–]revolution600 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The thing is, I was actually willing to help them. A lot of what gamergate says about anti-gg figureheads is bullshit taken out of context, and I was willing to go get the exact quotes and evidence they can use to refute those kinds of claims, or at least provide the correct context to them.

Instead they ban me because srhbutts actually IS a dogfucking pedo. Perfect.

Also, SUCKING DOG COCK.

[–]SeQuest 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I guess Ghazi have something against being actually prepared for speeches. I came in thinking that maybe I'm just on the other side of double-circlejerk, but I'm yet to see KiA downvote people for having discussion and banning when they lose.

https://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2y4j5c/people_speaking_at_wellattended_events_write/

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good grief, they banned you for that? That is completely fucking ridiculous!

So far most of the bans in this thread at least make some sense; they're banning people for holding a "pro-gamergate" opinion, or for making fun of them, or contradicting their strongly held beliefs.

But you were literally just having a normal conversation!

Even I can appreciate the concept of a heavily moderated forum being appropriate in certain circumstances and for certain purposes, but Ghazi really has degenerated to banning anything that disagrees.

[–]SeQuest 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe I got lucky and caught a very squishy mod. Doesn't bother me much anyway, I thought maybe some of them are quite reasonable but pretty much right from the gates it felt like a lost cause. Just makes me want to tolerate them even more out of spite.

[–]ItsAboutEthics[M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

No direct links to ghazi! Make it .np link, pleeeezzz.

Jeezus, I gotta figure out CSS.

[–]SeQuest 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Got it, sorry, forgot the rule, will never happen again

[–]ItsAboutEthics 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hah, no problem, it's the most common slip people make in this sub(I gotta change the layout to enforce it more...)

[–]LateNightHobo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]LateNightHobo 1 point 9 days ago

Does this one count? 342 upvotes on the thread with 80 comments. I couldn't find a transphobic attack in the comments.

Also this one. Although to be fair I only looked at the top 200 posts in this one. There are some stuff about otherkin but nothing personal against Brianna that I saw.

Of course you get banned for showing them that they are wrong. I mean, obviously!

I do love the wild accusation of misogyny, transphobia, sexism on the basis of the smallest slight or criticism. Then, of course, it's your job suddenly to prove you aren't!

[–]HoneyVortex 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"SJW's believe that censorship is better than discussion" --> CENSORED for saying that.

http://i.imgur.com/2OKvKY7.jpg

[–]Brimshae 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this a thing? Are we doing this?

I got banned for asking Ghazi to fix some false information about KiA in their sidebar.

And the whole conversation tree.

Fun part: Ghazi still has the same false proof on its sidebar months later.

Extra credit: Bitched at and blocked on Twitter by Wuhu for trying to verify someone wasn't impersonating her on reddit about a week or so after the fake @spacekatga| twitter account.

[–]rentedcargo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I haven't been banned. Should I go try?

[–]X_The_Eliminator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't even have to try. It's really as simple as posting there.

[–]ItsAboutEthics 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

I haven't been banned yet :P

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

No prize for you then!

[–]ItsAboutEthics 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

The first few posts of mine were some shilling for Based Mom in Ghazi. Surprised they let them slide.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]ItsAboutEthics[M] 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

COMMENT CENSORED

No but seriously, no direct links to Ghazi! Use NP links please.

You did find them alright, though :P The best part was my comment about the lawyer and his criminal record. Guy's straight up dangerous. He should not be going after anyone for any reason whatsoever.

Edit: If you would be so kind to change the links to .np, I'll approve the comment and folks seeing this comment chain know what we're talking about :P

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit friend, sorry! let me change all the others in this thread as well

[–]phoenixmusicman 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just a question, but why no direct links to Ghazi? Is this about general reddit rules?

[–]ItsAboutEthics 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sub deliberately targets posts in ghazi. Should someone directly link to something in ghazi and it gets brigaded, it'll look super bad for us(that is how subs get deleted by admins).

So it's just to avoid liability, really.

I've been considering opening up link posts soon, but for now, self-posts only.

[–]phoenixmusicman 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see

On another tone, I just got banned from Ghazi B)

This was my post:

"I would respectfully point out that wikipedia is very biased to anti-gamergate.

If you are unhappy with KnowYourMeme being deliberately pro-gamergate, then you should, too, be unhappy with the Wikipedia article being obstinately anti-gamergate."

[–]X_The_Eliminator 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got banned cause I posted in this thread. My facts aren't right, and my numbers were off by tenfold. Thought that would be good enough to keep me around.

She's suing for an absurd amount of money (like $1.6 million or something??) in funds that she could have made if she were promoted. She was denied promotion because she was a gossiper/backstabber/bad attitude/generally unpleasant to work with. GG is talking about her because corruption. That and she works at Reddit now and they're afraid she's going to start censoring all kinds of stuff.

FYI: it was my first post in Ghazi, and I've posted in KiA maybe 4 times.

I did get two responses before getting banned, though!

She worked at a big Silicon Valley VC. That's not an unreasonable amount of money in that business

IMO, any amount of money that someone could have made if they didn't suck at their job is too much money.

If GG is just about corruption now, even when it has nothing whatsoever to do with video games or journalism, I can't wait until they run an expose on political and police bribes around the world! I mean, unless they don't care about corruption and just hate on women. In which case they'll just keep on doing what they're doing I guess.

such kek

[–]LEMental 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Response to TotalBiscuit by Delvaris in GamerGhazi [–]LEMental 1 point 4 months ago "Gamergate wants to silence progressive criticism of games." Untrue.

Was banned shortly. I typed 1 word in that subreddit.

[–]oOGeneral_RyanOo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't banned yet. I never engage SJWs, it's asking for trouble and always yields the same result.

[–]AvalonBright 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just made a post about this and missed the sticky thread (whoops), so I guess I'll post this majestic thing here as well.

[–]SHTILORD 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My ban was so fucking lightly based :D I only pointed out how media would (imo) work if the situation was reversed. Meaning if conservative media would shit on us, so propably some leftist media would exploit that. Ok, just signed up for Imgur. I hope this works. http://imgur.com/41Yf880

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ye gods, they're actually getting worse.

I'm assuming they checked your post history and banned you for having the temerity to have previously posted in KiA.

[–]IroquoisPliskeen 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

This was my post that got me banned:

Anita is not evil. But i do understand why many consider her a scam artist. She made a lot of money without actually increasing quality of her videos. Besides that her arguments are many times cherry picked and sometimes just false. But hey its her right to make such videos just as is the right of everyone else to criticize her. That is equality . Yes the threats and harassment are scummy but she is not the only one. Many youtubers get those, male and female, left and right, xbox vs ps , whatever vs whatever. She is not the only one and portraying her as a hero is just not realistic IMO. Same goes for GG vs anti-GG. Both can have good points and both have people who are annoying, toxic or whatever. But yea we have to understand what equality is. Equality is speaking your mind and getting praise or criticism, equality isnt that you are immune to criticism. But sometimes we have to realize that Orwells The Farm is still relevant,“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” Perhaps it would be good if we all stepped away from all this extremism and look at the whole thing as a bigger picture. The bigger picture is that we have to have critical thinking for anything and everyone.

an hour later i got this message:

you have been banned from posting to /r/GamerGhazi: The Anti-Gamer Revolution. note from the moderators: "gg pls go"

So yeah its almost like they are a bunch of self-righteous assholes that dont like people with other opinions. Almost like they are ignorant.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

welcome to the club.

It's sometimes good to realise just how ridiculous some of your opponents ideas and actions really are.

[–]IroquoisPliskeen 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

But i never thought it will be so moronic/ironic and stupid. They seriously complain and talk shit and the moment someone wants to start a normal debate everyone goes apeshit on you.

Also when i saw that Brianna Wu was on there and everyone was upvoting everything she said, a alarm got set off in my head.

They are a joke.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mind bendingly moronic. And normies wonder why after so many months that there isn't any good quality "debate". And that all we do is laugh at them.

Debate with who? Who is there to debate with? The corrupt journos who are doing everything to cover themselves? The brainwashed hangerons who are there because of their gender studies courses? The twitterati who aren't capable of any thoughts or ideas that exceed 140 characters?

Absolutely they are a joke. A joke that seems to hold not insignificant sway in the media, because "mah gender! mah racism! mah transexterminationism!"

Laugh vs. Cry?

If you're not an autist, I'd suggest getting out and trying your best to not waste your time on this whole thing, even though it's goals are entirely admirable.

[–]IroquoisPliskeen 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think some people need to realize criticism means equality and not in-equality. If you say something stupid you get criticized for it. Then you have Anita, Brianna etc. who take critical comments and throw them into the hate/harrass posts.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but you know humans. Even the most polite, accurate and well meaning of criticism is liable to cause all kinds of shitty emotions.

The nature of social media just amplifies the negatives; it makes legitimate criticism seem more cruel than it actually is, and it allows your emotional response to get the better of you.

Of course at this point they've so effectively cut them selves off from the rest of the world, that they wouldn't even be able to tell you what gamergate is actually about, and why people give a shit.

If you don't even know your opponents arguments, if you can't at least understand them, and if you still think that you have the moral authority to ridicule or argue against them, then you are the problem

I'm intimately read in the cause of social justice. I understand intersectionality. And because I understand these points of view, I can treat them with the contempt they deserve. Because all these ideologies are diametrically opposed to have a free, open, democratic society.

[–]Slimneb 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh, "Slimneb is shadowbanned or deleted" What's going on here?

All I wanted to do was look up your original posts to assign you points. But your profile is MiA.

[–]rultes 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was a while ago but basically I was banned for asking if any questions asked in the sub and that are not in the unison with the opinion of others are met with derision and contempt.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whelp, you got the answer, not agreeing with Ghazi is met with derision, contempt and:

A ban!

Edit: Finally found the comments and thread: https://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2on8x4/this_is_currently_the_top_post_on_kia_titled_this/

[–]rultes 0 points 2 months ago

And they are?

Oh wait, I'm not even going to be dignified with a response, right?

[–]rultes 3 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the suggestion.

Is there anything else I can read so I can better understand your point of view?

[–]rultes -1 points 2 months ago*

Now, before I start let's be clear - I'm an Eastern European and from what I've seen, I'm also less educated on the cultural and gender discourse in the first world, so if I sound offensive to you fellas - please keep in mind that I'm filfthy opressor pleb ok thx.

Women currently hold 5.2% of Fortune 500 CEO positions and 5.4% Fortune 1000 CEO positions despite making up, you know, about 50 percent of the population. Women hold 5% of FTSE 100 CEO positions.

Don't get me wrong but how do you suggest an increase of female presence in the private enterprise? That would mean imposing what businesses hate the most - quotas and regulations. How are you going to convince companies that they need more female execs? How can you track and be sure that a female would become an exec because of her merits and not because that she's a female? Wouldn't that be offensive to women too?

Or how about police forces that represent their community? Did you know that in Ferguson, 67% of the population are black but the police force is 94% white?

It appears to be a specific US issue. But I have a question - when a person is put in the position of the authority - does his race matter? Because I've witnessed enough police brutality and I have a feeling that representation of different races won't solve bad treatment of people and/or specific races.

Or how about we make it so that minority groups in the Western world aren't disproportionately more likely to be living in poverty than white people?

This I agree upon. I myself an IDP and I have it bad but not as bad as other refugees from the region I'm from and I can only imagine the horror that people can go through from different, less fortunate places in the world.

So in total - race and gender equality. That's good. Okay. But here comes the kicker - I'm a white male in the very poor country. While I'm not very poor - I'm close to it or, at least, to the definition of being poor by the World Bank. Am I also responsible for all the injustice that were caused to women and different races? I sincerely want to know and in this particular question there is no snark or sarcasm.

Waiting for your response.

[–]rultes 0 points 2 months ago

Passive aggressiveness was implied but merely because I assumed that this should be an appropriate MO for any new people in this sub.

I am sorry if the assumption was wrong.

[–]rultes 0 points 2 months ago

So, the quantifiable measurement of social justice is the percentage of representation?

[–]aiat_gamer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I need to get in on this, to the Ghazi mobile!

[–]camarouge 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mine was an odd situation. It went something like...

I post archive of stupid tweet of Lifschitz on KiA -> I realize I am wrong and the votes show, staying at about 60% upvoted :P -> Post winds up on ghazi, gets slightly brigaded -> I go visit the Ghazi thread, see people talking shit about me and my post, ask a question, banned of course.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2rxqx1/gator_accuses_alex_lifschitz_of_misgendering/

Awww, comment deleted :-(

Ah, but here it is: https://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2rxqx1/gator_accuses_alex_lifschitz_of_misgendering/cnkhcsn

Edit: Awww, permalinking to comments doesn't work, even if they do exist in your post history :-(

Don't forget friend, the internet never forgets!

Bonus points for beeing honoured in the Sea Lion Hall of Fame: http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2tx4gr/sea_lions_of_wikipedia_quick_report_on_our_show/

[–]camarouge 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't notice they pegged my wiki account. That's... weird of them. They sure do love witch hunts don't they.

[–]kindraness 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is there a club for people banned from GamerGhazi who have never actually posted in GamerGhazi?

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wat?

How?!

[–]kindraness 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oop, false alarm. For some reason there was a period where I didn't even have a reply box or reply option or anything.

[–]bobcat 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

reddit had you shadowbanned - what happened?

[–]Neo_Techni 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I asked someone to prove that they were being harassed by gamergate

[–]Dragofireheart 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just popped my banned from Ghazi cherry:

https://archive.today/EWpui

What I said:

[–]DragofireheartBeta Mangina White Knight 1 point just now take note gators. This is how you can disagree with something without being an enormous taint.

I thought disagreeing was against the rules per rule two (No JAQing off)?

Apparently mentioning their own rules is against the rules! LOL!

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Delightful! It has to be the right kind of disagreement!

[–]Tour_Guide_Nixon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't been banned from Ghazi... Yet. Even though I'm currently telling a Ghazian they're a terrible friend for forcing ideology upon her friend so shouldn't be long.

[–]aiat_gamer 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Yeah Peter Molyneux made some great games too, it does not excuse his current status. I pledged 20 bucks for Broken Age when I honestly was a poor student barely able to afford my daily meals, and he gave me a dumb down adventure game made for ios crowd instead of an old school adventure game like he promised. Part two of the game has not been released yet after all these months. Considering their stunt on that Space Base game, I can say for sure that our dear Tim is pretty much done."

The post that got me banned.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Honest, accurate criticism of game developer for breaking his promises and financial mismanagement. How dare you!

[–]aiat_gamer 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Funny thing is I didn't even talk about GG stuff, just pointed out that just because someone made a few good games in the past does not get a free pass.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whelp, seeing as you're clearly a "fake gamer boy", you totally deserve that ban :-)

I'm sure that no one looked through your post history, saw that you post in KiA, decided that you and your opinion are haram and decided to ban you for daring to speak your mind.

[–]aiat_gamer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hah, "fake gamer boy"...bitch I have been playing video games for about 3 decades now :D.

[–]KafkasWonderfulLife 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

In a reply to one of Kim Crawley's posts, post InfoSec firing...

Shouldn't that be "journalist"? Weren't you shitcanned recently? Heh.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

A delightfully launched grenade, right in the feels :-) They don't like it when the snark is directed at them!

[–]KafkasWonderfulLife 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In all fairness, feels are the most sensitive part;

Kim has PTSD from the firing

Ghazi has been great for me, because I'm still traumatized by what happened with my article and how cowardly InfoSec Resources is.

Which triggers her childhood bullying PTSD

It's so pathetic the stupid bullshit they pick on. It triggers my PTSD related to being bullied as a kid. Those bullies did the same shit. The way I breathed could be picked on, FFS.

In conclusion, the mod reaction is appropriate

[–]anotherthrowawayac55 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought I would try to join both sides of the discussion, both GG and anti-GG, but I got banned on my first post

I thought it was pretty hilarious. It's so difficult to be unbiased in the GG discussion when one side is so hopelessly self destructive

http://i.imgur.com/pbvyJt9.png

[–]norcydorky 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was going to post this on KIA, but a quick check of the rules and this pinned post seems to indicate I should just put this here. Hopefully people see it as I know it made me laugh. I thought my comment was incredibly moderate. Guess not..?

http://i.imgur.com/3u3Jra7.jpg

I randomly stumbled on 'Ghazi' and don't follow/care about this nonsense anymore. I see it as two toddlers fighting over nothing. Throwaway as I pretty much assume I'll end up getting brigaded and hated by both sides.

Edit: Oh dang it, I accidentally cropped a bit of text. Too lazy to fix and it's only part of the words "regarding" and "totally" anyway. Still irks me though lmfao.

[–]Zero132132 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was banned for this:

One example of 'white privilege' that I'll actually agree with. If I think the police are coming through a door guns drawn, I don't want to have a damned thing in or near my hands. I can't even conceive of the scenario as funny. It's about as funny as jumping in front of a damned train. On the other hand, if I ever decide I need an out, suicide by cop might be significantly easier, so there's a plus in there somewhere!

Still confused at that one. Wasn't I sort of giving a nod to their stupid-ass notions about the world?

[–]smokeybehr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure which one of these got me banned, but I'm sure that they're going to accuse me of sealioning, and since I'm banned, I can't defend myself. That's okay, because Ghazi is less of a hugbox, and more like a boa constrictor.

http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/32t8q3/question_is_there_any_hope_left_for_the_activist/cqeqsb4

http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/32t8q3/question_is_there_any_hope_left_for_the_activist/cqeqtgq

[–]chiefsport 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just got banned! The ban note said, "mra pls go."

This is the offending comment: "So he admits there isn't actual pay discrimination but discrimination in appointing women to higher paying positions. That's actually a coherent position which seems rare in pay gap discussions."

Full disclosure: I was banned from KiA too but I think that's because I beerzily posted a youtube music video one night a couple of months ago. So I can understand KiA's reasoning there.

Here's the actual thread http://np.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/33lx0x/actual_economist_steps_in_and_stomps_on_the/

[–]Millenia0 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any easy way of finding the post?

[–]j0eg0d 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hold on a second ...

[–]j0eg0d 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]j0eg0d 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was a easy as not raping Brianna Wu!!!

[–]j0eg0d 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I found this link over there ... (http://cmsw.mit.edu/podcast-citron-brianna-wu-hate-crimes-in-cyberspace/) ... It's a bunch of blah blah blah but CHECK OUT the comment section!!!

[–]YukitoBurrito 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oddly I'm not banned. Just did a test post.

[–]TotesMessenger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)

[–]ActualFrenchFag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Posted on iscuck_bot discussion:

This sub was created by a cuckolding fetishist (the racist kind, where black "bulls" look more like animals than humans).

It's perfectly fitting.

[–]assassin447 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I admit the post that got me banned from ghazi was basically a low effort shitpost.

A thread OP mentioned coontown as one of the subreddits he wanted purged and I said dindu nuffin.

[–]FuzzyDiceInThaMirror 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This was my first post on Reddit, period. Not a ban evader, not a brigader, just a legitimate new user to Reddit.

http://imgur.com/N4Jbyht

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, you've learned, in the most direct of fashions, what the "anti-gamergate" mentality entails: Actively refusing to listen to opposing views (or even allowing them to exist) even if completely reasonable, and using the most overbearing methods by which to apply that (bans, harrassment accusations (that's what they're talking about "your account has been reported" --> Ghazi has reported your account to the reddit administrators as a "harassing" account) ).

That's a cool screencap, It's the personification of "sealioning", andI'm keeping that for deployment in the field, if you don't mind, for when people say that "anti-gamergate just want a reasonable discussion", to show people exactly how "anti-gamergate" discuss things in reality :-)

[–]Vulture051 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

In response to a topic on this xkcd comic, their totally not censorship, and recent subreddit bans:

You're not showing them the door because it's not your house. You're just threatening the owners of said house. "Kick these people I hate out or I'll tell everyone you're a monster"

I didn't think they would take it well but I expected a lot of downvotes, not getting banned less than 30min later. First post too.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Check out the insanely trivial bullshit that other people have been banned for.

You're lucky they didn't get the admins to shadowban you :-)

[–]Chrisptov 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly, I was shocked that no one had thought of making this a sticky before. People get banned from ghazi whenever it's midnight somewhere on planet earth.

You made the mistake of making four completely reasonable posts, trying to have a conversation about representation of female bodies. In Ghazi! HAHAHAHAHahahahhah

Here is a more useful set of links if you want to argue the same point again:

http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/post/3583964949/figures-they-speak-for-themselves-mildly-nsfw

http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/post/28887422205/athlete-maya-nakanishi-first-three

http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/post/27953173295/leupagus-toughtink-who-is-this-woman-shes

Note that the artist (Aaron Diaz), has drunk deep from the Anita Sarkeesian well of poison. OTOH, he also has actual talent. The fact of the matter is that he is doing for character design the exact opposite of what Sarkeesian is preaching, and yet he still thinks sunlight shines from her backside.

He also has some choice words for Marvel:

http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/post/10756160867/top-10-worst-superhero-villain-redesigns

http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/post/10732436312/top-10-best-superhero-villain-redesigns

http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/post/10830387057/5-essential-superhero-redesigns

and a bonus counterpoint to the boobplate question:

http://unatheblade.tumblr.com/post/9549555644/just-for-the-sake-of-interest-heres-a

[–]Chrisptov 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like his redesigns, but I think that's because I quite like his art style. I do think the super man one looks silly though.

I only glanced over the articles (I intend to read them fully later when i'm not trying to sneak through Revolution Station on metro.) and they give me the impression that his criticisms of the way some of the female supers have been redesigned is the the same thing everyone says and some of those outfits are down right silly.

Anita Sarkeesian is another topic entirely, her overall message of 'lets be more inclusive and have more complex characters!' is a good one. Her examples are absolute shit.

Bonus - I asked why I got banned when I was just trying to see both sides. I wonder if they saw this post.

I guess they're happy to be an Echo-Chamber

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

lets be more inclusive and have more complex characters!

A laudable goal, because interesting characters make for interesting fiction and interesting fiction is why we're here in the first place. It's a shame that Sarkeesian doesn't actually contribute anything substantive to that conversation apart from controversy and terrible philosophical positions. Or at least it's a shame that her worthless videos have been the go to place to talk about this, when even Diaz's posts on character design are vastly more cogent, coherent and thought through.

Diaz actually has a nuanced and interesting approach to character design, his tumblr has a lot of posts on the topic. He has a philosophy to his character design that is consistent, interesting, and makes for interesting characters (his Star Wars 1999, Zelda, X-men redesigns are all worth checking out, if only for their novelty). He also has no qualms with doing sexy, when it's called for :-)

Meh, not being able to post on Ghazi is like not being able to drink methylated spirits. Sure that purple tinge makes it look so appealing, but then, two days later, blindness! :-)

[–]Chrisptov 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a shame that Sarkeesian doesn't actually contribute anything substantive to that conversation apart from controversy and terrible philosophical positions. Or at least it's a shame that her worthless videos have been the go to place to talk about this

I can't fathom for the life of me how her videos got so much attention. I couldn't see them finding a large audience under their own merit. I mean sure they have nice graphics and a relatively decent production value but the woman spouts such utter shit. The hitman video for fucks sake. She makes is so clear she doesn't understand mechanics.

I guess that just plays into the collusion aspect of Gamergate, promoting their mates and blocking out the inevitable backlash.

I actually think that we can learn things from the Anti-GGers that are willing to talk, if not to us, but to other like minded people in a public space. The intelligent ones won't always post rants and may have something interesting to say. It's a shame the whole issue is mired by harassment on both sides, I wonder what the conversation would be like if we could some how talk about this stuff out of context, without harassment overshadowing everything and providing a reason for Devs/Journos to dislike our message.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder what the conversation would be like if

If, if, if, if, if only.

Lets list the ways that a conversation can go awry:

  • They're on the internet. Where no one can properly express their thoughts because written English is really hard to master, and differences in use of language can lead to wild variations in interpretation. Where reading "implications" into someone's words is the norm, rather than the exception. Where all these problems are compounded by arbitrary rules regarding post length (here's looking at you twitter). Where private and public are now so intermingled, that most reasonable people can no longer tell the difference (twitter, again). Where humour, tone, sarcasm, nuance, history, context are all missing. Where random strangers can accidentally or purposefully harm a conversation. Where dissenting opinions can be removed, or dismissed on the basis of arbitrary rules, applied by very arbitrary people (seriously, just like wanting to be a politician, wanting to be a mod is a sign that you shouldn't get the job).
  • The participants experiences of the world are at odds, and no one bothers to examine this contexts
  • The participants are often ill informed, ignorant, unwilling to admit their own failings, ignorance, or defeat.
  • The participants are there to gain social points, not to contribute to a discussion.
  • Words being used with varying definitions, and no attempt made to define them.
  • etc. etc. etc. etc.

The nature of all these conversations depends on so many factors, that I'm now consistently surprised at how often you can actually have a useful discussion on any topic.

I most enjoyed watching gamergate unfold in front of me. Watching the forums and the threads and being there and seeing what actually happened. Then seeing the press and various other parties spin the story so incredibly badly.

So when you say:

without harassment overshadowing everything and providing a reason for Devs/Journos to dislike our message

I'm really quite cynical, and would reply that no matter how gamergate started, or proceeded, there is no scenario in which Devs and Journos would have been able to stop themselves from coming up with some excuse to paint us in the worst light possible.

[–]Velvet_Llama 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't get a reason and they didn't answer my inquiry, but I think I might have responded to the ban notification instead of through mod mail, so they might not have seen it.

Anyways I think I got banned for calling Intel's recent diversity initiative announcement a dog and pony show for corporate PR. I think I was getting on people's nerves because I kept pointing out hypocrisy when they'd come up with crazy conspiracies and criticizing their overly simplistic view of everyone in GG being a misogynist that didn't actually care about the ethics stuff.

Ban never bothered me though. If they want an ideologically pure space that legitimately is fine as far as I'm concerned. Big Internet out there after all.

[–]linkreincarnate 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I cant post it because it was deleted. But basically they got mad because I said feminism is just the belief that men and women are equal when they said Based Mom wasn't a feminist. I got them all to yell at me about how that's not what feminism is. Funny they all still agree with Anita tho...

[–]kenryhissinger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://imgur.com/klMFDBk

banned, reason : lol no

They're adorable!

[–]XaeroA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think I pointed out that a GamerGater getting doxxed was a very common thing and there was no rules against that on Ghazi, banned

[–]MakoSucksOffical Mod of /ShitGhaziSays/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

does getting banned from here count :D

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

You know the rules, post the post that you got banned for, or you don't get a prize!

[–]MakoSucksOffical Mod of /ShitGhaziSays/ 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

if the mods say it's cool i will

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

You coward!

Edit: Also, well played rules lawyer, I did indeed no specify what exactly I meant by "Ghazi"

[–]MakoSucksOffical Mod of /ShitGhaziSays/ 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I dont want to get banned again lol or dis the mods here, they're pretty cool

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The mods say that it wasn't a single post you were banned for, and they won't ban you for posting it here.

Don't be a flake, you'd better deliver!

[–]MakoSucksOffical Mod of /ShitGhaziSays/ 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ok, I got banned here for being argumentative in general I suppose, but I guess the last post I made before I got banned was this one.

and this is how I got unbanned Bukakke FTW

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That picture in the corner... Did you do that specially for just that pic?

[–]MakoSucksOffical Mod of /ShitGhaziSays/ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah I haven't used photoshop in a while, so I just started messing around