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Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]kaalki [score hidden]  (0 children)

You are literally the first guy to claim Hostdzire is good and as for reviews there are many others who have claimed otherwise.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]figofigo97 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hostdzire was the second best out of all the Leaseweb resellers I tried to be honest. Seedhost was among the worst, and I had an E3-1230 server from them. This guy claims his Online.net server did way better than his seedhost one.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]Andy10gbit [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah Leaseweb has like a static weathermap which shows the load throughout the AMS1 DC. When I was on the Volume Network, I used to request that and pick racks which showed the least congestion. Whichever rack they could provision the server on out of those I'd go with it. Some times my lone server would get sandwiched between servers belonging to one of the bulk resellers. That didn't matter any more after I switched to Premium.

Yes when you had the 10Gbit running on RED, pretty much all my 1Gbit users weren't able to break 1.0 while you were doing ratios of 5-6.

OVH Asia-Pacific VPS's 50% off! by x5i5Mjx8q in seedboxes

[–]x5i5Mjx8q[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

These would be great for all you people in Australia or similar! Looks like you can prepay for an entire year at half off!

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]kaalki [score hidden]  (0 children)

Its really not fair to compare hostdzire to seedhost as hostdzire truly are shit they oversell the bandwidth alloted to them.

lftp for windows v1.1.1 - easy task scheduler support. by userdocs in seedboxes

[–]shokam_scene [score hidden]  (0 children)

Feature Request If I may:

  1. Progress Bar - forgive my noobness I'm not sure if the job is 50% or 10% atm

  2. Pushbullet notification once the job completes - bonus with list of files copied

  3. Delete Source or Move Job

Seedhost Dedi 16TR mini review by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Seedhost Dedi 16TR mini review by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Seedhost Dedi 16TR mini review by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Kimsufi Flash Sale KS-4C (2017) €12.99 Now! by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]figofigo97 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hey wasn't there that thing where you told me you choose servers at Leaseweb? I didn't have the 1Gbit Premium Leaseweb long enough to see if it did make a difference, but that 10Gbit, my god it ruined the swarms at RED. I recall you used to ask me every 2 weeks if I'm done racing at RED.

Hey its me the only active mod! How can I improve this community? Tell me! by TheGamingGeneral in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You are right that's just traffic accounting, I should have read your message more thoroughly. Andy explains it much better below, however I can tell you from experience that I have seen hostdzire servers racing competitively on a few trackers. They are in a minority, maybe 1 or 2 boxes and it got me wondering about the same thing you are asking.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]Andy10gbit [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well I'm in a constant back and forth for lower prices (or better specs) with both Leaseweb and NForce. Some of the deals I've been offered at Leaseweb have been quite tempting but they all mostly revolve around bulk purchase.

You could buy anything upwards of 20 servers at a time at a decent price, and they will put you on a single rack. Cheapest deal was with 40 servers, you get your own rack, and depending on how much you want to pay, you can add anything from 1x10Gbit to 4x10Gbit uplinks to it.

Also individual server ports have a sort of a virtual dial which can control the Network QoS, so again depending on how big the wad of cash you're holding is, it can be turned up or down.

Traffic pooling is another option, where you can buy 1PB of traffic for say 100 servers. This works best if you have your own rack with 40 servers, because you'll have private peering throughout the rack and Leaseweb finds it much easier to count and then completely discount Internal traffic within the rack.

Those are a few options I was offered over the last few months while I've been bashing them with competitor prices. Will your performance be worse with a bulk reseller, most likely not because not everybody is a heavy user on a particular rack. Will it be a gamble, yes. Which is why I posted once before, you won't know till you try. If you're happy, retain your server. If you're getting spanked on the peerlists, then you know why.

Also Premium at Leaseweb is alot different from Premium at say NForce. Nforce is more about rerouting and perks and this and that, at Leaseweb its about redundancy. They got this weird witchcraft going on behind the scenes which is constantly working on keeping your traffic in uncongested lanes if you have Premium. Leaseweb hates rerouting because they can't reroute a single server port, but only a whole rack. So if you peer over Cogent to Comcast East Coast, and you wanted it to go over Telia, it wouldnt be possible unless you owned all the servers on that rack.

Also if your MRC (Monthly Recurring Charge) is higher than $20k, then you get your own private engineer from Leaseweb working with you 24/7. Which is why I notice that the trend among alot of Leaseweb Resellers is to sell as many servers as possible (even if at a loss) to just meet that 20k MRC. Not my goal, I can fix most issues through KVM.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]MrBaconwitz [score hidden]  (0 children)

But that's for accounting of the traffic. Resellers like these doesn't have their own private racks, they just rent the server like any other customers at LeaseWeb. So there shouldn't be any way for a reseller to oversell the network.

E5v2-SAT-1-16 by amancha1 in seedboxes

[–]elyorkis [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, this is sad. I was able to get one of them before they discontinue and it works amazing.

Keep checking on LET many guys have been tranfering their server.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It has to do with something called Bandwidth Pooling for resellers. Basically a reseller buys bandwidth in bulk and can share it across as many servers as they wish, they ofcourse can not physically alter the server, therefore in terms of hardware you get what is advertised, where stuff gets crappy is their billing/support and the bandwidth. So a reseller can purchase a 300TB block for example and share it between 100 users.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]OrdinaryDonkey[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I just named the first two that came to my mind. Eqservers could be another one. Does not matter which one.

Assuming they do not lie (I have no idea, never tried them), Hostdzire has Leaseweb servers in EvoSwitch. Hence, my original question is still valid. How can they oversell if they do not have direct access to the servers and racks?

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]nit-ram [score hidden]  (0 children)

First time I see Hostdzire compared to seedhost ever.

Hostdzire are the bottom of the barrel. Overselling is like renting rack space in a DC and hosting MANY more servers then the port speed.
ie: 100+ gbit servers on a 10gbit rack

I am sure many resellers actually get servers from Leaseweb volume network though, like seedhost.
If you buy directly from LW you could get better hardware.
You can also buy from Andy10gbit and have the best performance possible from any server.

Hey its me the only active mod! How can I improve this community? Tell me! by TheGamingGeneral in seedboxes

[–]trj86 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I apologize if I offended you. Yes I have a bad taste in my mouth from my experience with seedhost. In line with what u/figofigo97 said, your posts seemed like shilling to me. If you have a good experience with seedhost, then more power to you.

bytesized is having a lot of buffering by royalmaddness in seedboxes

[–]AnimazingBytesized Hosting Owner [score hidden]  (0 children)

Heya! If you link me the ticket id I will check in. I have a second network available now so if the current (Feral) network is giving you issues I can move you to the secondary network, that should hopefully fix your issues.

whats the best settings for ruTorrent with Rapid Seed Box ? by LTC_Squirell in seedboxes

[–]LTC_Squirell[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

While I love my seedbox and Im not knocking the company or anything, I would of though I could have an amazing ratio, just seed and boom I know have 100+ ratio.

It seems like its a lot of hard work, always chasing the new releases to get that burst of leeches.

DL speeds are still amazing, 10Gb in less than 5 mins.

π Rendered by PID 42267 on app-589 at 2018-04-06 16:33:49.278764+00:00 running 0394969 country code: JP.

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Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]kaalki [score hidden]  (0 children)

You are literally the first guy to claim Hostdzire is good and as for reviews there are many others who have claimed otherwise.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]figofigo97 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hostdzire was the second best out of all the Leaseweb resellers I tried to be honest. Seedhost was among the worst, and I had an E3-1230 server from them. This guy claims his Online.net server did way better than his seedhost one.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]Andy10gbit [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah Leaseweb has like a static weathermap which shows the load throughout the AMS1 DC. When I was on the Volume Network, I used to request that and pick racks which showed the least congestion. Whichever rack they could provision the server on out of those I'd go with it. Some times my lone server would get sandwiched between servers belonging to one of the bulk resellers. That didn't matter any more after I switched to Premium.

Yes when you had the 10Gbit running on RED, pretty much all my 1Gbit users weren't able to break 1.0 while you were doing ratios of 5-6.

OVH Asia-Pacific VPS's 50% off! by x5i5Mjx8q in seedboxes

[–]x5i5Mjx8q[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

These would be great for all you people in Australia or similar! Looks like you can prepay for an entire year at half off!

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]kaalki [score hidden]  (0 children)

Its really not fair to compare hostdzire to seedhost as hostdzire truly are shit they oversell the bandwidth alloted to them.

lftp for windows v1.1.1 - easy task scheduler support. by userdocs in seedboxes

[–]shokam_scene [score hidden]  (0 children)

Feature Request If I may:

  1. Progress Bar - forgive my noobness I'm not sure if the job is 50% or 10% atm

  2. Pushbullet notification once the job completes - bonus with list of files copied

  3. Delete Source or Move Job

Seedhost Dedi 16TR mini review by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Seedhost Dedi 16TR mini review by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Seedhost Dedi 16TR mini review by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Kimsufi Flash Sale KS-4C (2017) €12.99 Now! by machineshake123 in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]figofigo97 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hey wasn't there that thing where you told me you choose servers at Leaseweb? I didn't have the 1Gbit Premium Leaseweb long enough to see if it did make a difference, but that 10Gbit, my god it ruined the swarms at RED. I recall you used to ask me every 2 weeks if I'm done racing at RED.

Hey its me the only active mod! How can I improve this community? Tell me! by TheGamingGeneral in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Since you tend to delete your posts after a few days, I have taken the liberty of making it permanent. If the above post is deleted, it can be viewed from this link: https://imgur.com/a/DV5L0

So you are still not sure if you offended me? Let's have a look, you stalked my reddit profile, downvoted all my posts, harassed me in every thread I create whether it was about seedhost or not, called me a fucking shill etc. That's quite an extreme reaction don't you think. Just because you had a bad experience with seedhost must mean it's universal? Mate, let me put this into perspective if it's not obvious already, this is borderline psychopathic behavior, and as another user pointed out in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/89qj0q/kimsufi_flash_sale_ks4c_2017_1299_now/dwt3mlz/

The post which you deleted, it is indeed sickening behavior. You have made this sub a toxic place by your constant bashing of others whose experience/opinion differs from yours. You do realize that I tried to do a good thing by sharing my experience, you dont have to agree with it, but to goto such extremes? Anyways, I will only accept your apology if you post it on every reply you have made to any of my posts in the past.

Edit: I am also very interested in knowing where you got this from "https://imgur.com/a/Bp4gn"? I will publicly apologize to you if you can provide me with where I said such a thing.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You are right that's just traffic accounting, I should have read your message more thoroughly. Andy explains it much better below, however I can tell you from experience that I have seen hostdzire servers racing competitively on a few trackers. They are in a minority, maybe 1 or 2 boxes and it got me wondering about the same thing you are asking.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]Andy10gbit [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well I'm in a constant back and forth for lower prices (or better specs) with both Leaseweb and NForce. Some of the deals I've been offered at Leaseweb have been quite tempting but they all mostly revolve around bulk purchase.

You could buy anything upwards of 20 servers at a time at a decent price, and they will put you on a single rack. Cheapest deal was with 40 servers, you get your own rack, and depending on how much you want to pay, you can add anything from 1x10Gbit to 4x10Gbit uplinks to it.

Also individual server ports have a sort of a virtual dial which can control the Network QoS, so again depending on how big the wad of cash you're holding is, it can be turned up or down.

Traffic pooling is another option, where you can buy 1PB of traffic for say 100 servers. This works best if you have your own rack with 40 servers, because you'll have private peering throughout the rack and Leaseweb finds it much easier to count and then completely discount Internal traffic within the rack.

Those are a few options I was offered over the last few months while I've been bashing them with competitor prices. Will your performance be worse with a bulk reseller, most likely not because not everybody is a heavy user on a particular rack. Will it be a gamble, yes. Which is why I posted once before, you won't know till you try. If you're happy, retain your server. If you're getting spanked on the peerlists, then you know why.

Also Premium at Leaseweb is alot different from Premium at say NForce. Nforce is more about rerouting and perks and this and that, at Leaseweb its about redundancy. They got this weird witchcraft going on behind the scenes which is constantly working on keeping your traffic in uncongested lanes if you have Premium. Leaseweb hates rerouting because they can't reroute a single server port, but only a whole rack. So if you peer over Cogent to Comcast East Coast, and you wanted it to go over Telia, it wouldnt be possible unless you owned all the servers on that rack.

Also if your MRC (Monthly Recurring Charge) is higher than $20k, then you get your own private engineer from Leaseweb working with you 24/7. Which is why I notice that the trend among alot of Leaseweb Resellers is to sell as many servers as possible (even if at a loss) to just meet that 20k MRC. Not my goal, I can fix most issues through KVM.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]MrBaconwitz [score hidden]  (0 children)

But that's for accounting of the traffic. Resellers like these doesn't have their own private racks, they just rent the server like any other customers at LeaseWeb. So there shouldn't be any way for a reseller to oversell the network.

E5v2-SAT-1-16 by amancha1 in seedboxes

[–]elyorkis [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, this is sad. I was able to get one of them before they discontinue and it works amazing.

Keep checking on LET many guys have been tranfering their server.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]machineshake123 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It has to do with something called Bandwidth Pooling for resellers. Basically a reseller buys bandwidth in bulk and can share it across as many servers as they wish, they ofcourse can not physically alter the server, therefore in terms of hardware you get what is advertised, where stuff gets crappy is their billing/support and the bandwidth. So a reseller can purchase a 300TB block for example and share it between 100 users.

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]OrdinaryDonkey[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I just named the first two that came to my mind. Eqservers could be another one. Does not matter which one.

Assuming they do not lie (I have no idea, never tried them), Hostdzire has Leaseweb servers in EvoSwitch. Hence, my original question is still valid. How can they oversell if they do not have direct access to the servers and racks?

Are Leaseweb dedi resellers really overselling and providing worse performance, and how? by OrdinaryDonkey in seedboxes

[–]nit-ram [score hidden]  (0 children)

First time I see Hostdzire compared to seedhost ever.

Hostdzire are the bottom of the barrel. Overselling is like renting rack space in a DC and hosting MANY more servers then the port speed.
ie: 100+ gbit servers on a 10gbit rack

I am sure many resellers actually get servers from Leaseweb volume network though, like seedhost.
If you buy directly from LW you could get better hardware.
You can also buy from Andy10gbit and have the best performance possible from any server.

Hey its me the only active mod! How can I improve this community? Tell me! by TheGamingGeneral in seedboxes

[–]trj86 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I apologize if I offended you. Yes I have a bad taste in my mouth from my experience with seedhost. In line with what u/figofigo97 said, your posts seemed like shilling to me. If you have a good experience with seedhost, then more power to you.

bytesized is having a lot of buffering by royalmaddness in seedboxes

[–]AnimazingBytesized Hosting Owner [score hidden]  (0 children)

Heya! If you link me the ticket id I will check in. I have a second network available now so if the current (Feral) network is giving you issues I can move you to the secondary network, that should hopefully fix your issues.

whats the best settings for ruTorrent with Rapid Seed Box ? by LTC_Squirell in seedboxes

[–]LTC_Squirell[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

While I love my seedbox and Im not knocking the company or anything, I would of though I could have an amazing ratio, just seed and boom I know have 100+ ratio.

It seems like its a lot of hard work, always chasing the new releases to get that burst of leeches.

DL speeds are still amazing, 10Gb in less than 5 mins.

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