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Johann Gevers - a track record of unbelievable incompetence (self.tezos)

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I want everyone in the community to be aware of the following, which i have found out after digging into Johann Gevers' publicly available information. First and foremost, please take note of the domains that mr Gevers has registered, which will show you some of the domains he has ownership of and activities he has been involved in:

gevers.net joyouscreative.com instituteforfreedom.com johanngevers.com freedomuniversal.com instituteforfreedom.org freedomuniversal.net instituteforfreedom.net johanngevers.net freedomuniversal.org constitutionoffreedom.com constitutionoffreedom.org constitutionofliberty.com constitutionofliberty.org monetas.net lfcfa.com newgoldenrule.com newgoldenrule.net newgoldenrule.org constitutionoffreedom.net constitutionofliberty.net cryptovalley.net cryptovalley.biz cryptovalley.info gotary.ninja z3y2q3z.com decentralizedfinance.com decentralizedfinance.net decentralizedlaw.net decentralizedsociety.net monetas.global monetas.swiss cryptovalley.swiss dfca.swiss monetas.group tezos.swiss

If you use the Wayback Machine (archive.org) to review some of these domains you will find a disturbing pattern. For example, LFCFA.com, which Gevers still owns, closed down due to an audit which he conducted himself and found there to be insufficient information (sound familiar?): https://web.archive.org/web/20030220122344/http://lfcfa.com:80/founders/index.html meanwhile, there is a record of ongoing discussion regarding embezzlement of funds from those who invested in LFCFA here: https://www.offshorealert.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=37064 - our friend Johann Gevers is mentioned many times.

You guys already know about the fate of Monetas, so we don't have to go into that domain. But look up every other domain he has and you will see a failed project or defunct half-built website. Whatever idea/project Johann Gevers undertakes ends up in failure - he has no success to show for himself.

Even his own page "gevers.com" reads like a shady sales pitch; you may enjoy reading the archived versions of it when he first started his website: https://web.archive.org/web/20060810151552/http://johanngevers.com:80/bio

There he waxes poetic about The Freedom Universal and The Institute for Freedom in a way that is eerily reminiscent of a cult leader, delusional and referencing non-existing entities. You can try to find any information on The Freedom Universal and The Institute for Freedom and visit any variation of those domains and you won't find anything of substance, only empty domains of yet more failed projects.

In his bio he also references a2i2 where he worked as an "advisor" - the company is now defunct, but not before our friend Gevers undertaking some suspicious activities. According to https://www.offshorealert.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=37042 you can see that a2i2 received some funds from Johann Gevers, supposedly after his dealings in the LFCFA where claims of embezzlement were thrown around; many LCFA investors wondered if Gevers was sponsoring a2i2 with their donations/investments.

We have in our hands a con-man with no scruples, of this i am certain of. His track record is atrocious and until/unless he is forcibly and immediately removed from his position as the president of the Tezos Foundation, i am certain he will cause Tezos to fail. After digging into his track record i am also certain the claims that he attempted to self deal are true.

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[–]Anton_Ternavsky 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Johann Gevers is 100% professional rogue.

All his so-called "commercial projects" have failed and the money of investors flowed into his pocket.

Who can say, there is at least one exception to this rule?

The fate of the Tezos Fund is also under threat!

This scoundrel, who does not have any success in his track record (he needs investor money, not success), already aimed at the Fund's money!

Gevers once engaged in auditing, he perfectly understands the whole procedure and cunning for audit's bypass.

[–]elkmoosebison 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the archive of gevers.com is some scary shit.. nobody like this should be handling money.

Over a period of more than twenty-five years, I experimented with many different concepts for a free society. Each of these models had its merits, but fell short of being the complete solution I was looking for. There was still a key ingredient missing. Finally, on August 27, 2004, I had a stunning insight that tied together all the other pieces of the puzzle. It was so elegantly simple that for some months I wondered if I was overlooking something. Gradually, however, through further research and discussions with some of the brightest minds working in this field, my confidence grew that this represented a real solution. The idea has evolved, developed, grown, and matured to where it is now ready for a wider audience. It is called The Freedom Universal. I founded the Institute for Freedom to advance this important work.

[–]ZHZ000 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Under no circumstance should we deliver the Tezos Protocol to a Tezos Foundation ruled by Herr Gevers.

We, the Community and DLS, must together break the contract with the Foundation and abandon the treasury, and launch the chain on our own. Later, we can reclaim the treasury through a legal fight.

The moment DLS puts the IP of Tezos in Herr Gever's hands, our fate is sealed.

Do not underestimate evil when it comes near you. This man long ago should have been in jail, and walk in the world as a convict.

The Swiss are playing a dangerous game shielding him, and they will come to pay an unbearable price. Engage the Swiss establishment on social media, and ask them disturbing questions.

[–]MountainMunchkin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ask MME some questions? They´ve been Johann´s lawyers for years. If someone should have known, they should have known.

[–]yjespy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who at MME is the best contact person? I agree, they had to have known some of this.... Does Johann have a special connection there with somebody?

[–]yjespy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does anybody have access to search for court records in South Africa, Europe and the U.S. to look into Gevers' past there? There are bound to be things that come up.

[–]Moneytrigz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

WTF did the breitmans not know this? foolish mistake and situation. till now VERY dissapointed with marketing & spending of this massive amount of funds. hopefully we can turn this around quickly

[–]brendamn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well someone put him in charge of the foundation

[–]MountainMunchkin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Johann successfully manipulated the Swiss establishment. Some very highly regarded figures recommended him and vouched for him. It is a monumental embarrassment for Switzerland, and it is also possible that one or two people among them knew but chose to collude?

I suspect the preference of the Swiss establishment would be to sweep this under the carpet and just make it go away. I don´t think that this will be possible, mostly because Johann has nothing else in his life, and will fight tooth and nail to the bitter end.

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Johann Gevers - a track record of unbelievable incompetence (self.tezos)

submitted by poundofcheese

I want everyone in the community to be aware of the following, which i have found out after digging into Johann Gevers' publicly available information. First and foremost, please take note of the domains that mr Gevers has registered, which will show you some of the domains he has ownership of and activities he has been involved in:

gevers.net joyouscreative.com instituteforfreedom.com johanngevers.com freedomuniversal.com instituteforfreedom.org freedomuniversal.net instituteforfreedom.net johanngevers.net freedomuniversal.org constitutionoffreedom.com constitutionoffreedom.org constitutionofliberty.com constitutionofliberty.org monetas.net lfcfa.com newgoldenrule.com newgoldenrule.net newgoldenrule.org constitutionoffreedom.net constitutionofliberty.net cryptovalley.net cryptovalley.biz cryptovalley.info gotary.ninja z3y2q3z.com decentralizedfinance.com decentralizedfinance.net decentralizedlaw.net decentralizedsociety.net monetas.global monetas.swiss cryptovalley.swiss dfca.swiss monetas.group tezos.swiss

If you use the Wayback Machine (archive.org) to review some of these domains you will find a disturbing pattern. For example, LFCFA.com, which Gevers still owns, closed down due to an audit which he conducted himself and found there to be insufficient information (sound familiar?): https://web.archive.org/web/20030220122344/http://lfcfa.com:80/founders/index.html meanwhile, there is a record of ongoing discussion regarding embezzlement of funds from those who invested in LFCFA here: https://www.offshorealert.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=37064 - our friend Johann Gevers is mentioned many times.

You guys already know about the fate of Monetas, so we don't have to go into that domain. But look up every other domain he has and you will see a failed project or defunct half-built website. Whatever idea/project Johann Gevers undertakes ends up in failure - he has no success to show for himself.

Even his own page "gevers.com" reads like a shady sales pitch; you may enjoy reading the archived versions of it when he first started his website: https://web.archive.org/web/20060810151552/http://johanngevers.com:80/bio

There he waxes poetic about The Freedom Universal and The Institute for Freedom in a way that is eerily reminiscent of a cult leader, delusional and referencing non-existing entities. You can try to find any information on The Freedom Universal and The Institute for Freedom and visit any variation of those domains and you won't find anything of substance, only empty domains of yet more failed projects.

In his bio he also references a2i2 where he worked as an "advisor" - the company is now defunct, but not before our friend Gevers undertaking some suspicious activities. According to https://www.offshorealert.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=37042 you can see that a2i2 received some funds from Johann Gevers, supposedly after his dealings in the LFCFA where claims of embezzlement were thrown around; many LCFA investors wondered if Gevers was sponsoring a2i2 with their donations/investments.

We have in our hands a con-man with no scruples, of this i am certain of. His track record is atrocious and until/unless he is forcibly and immediately removed from his position as the president of the Tezos Foundation, i am certain he will cause Tezos to fail. After digging into his track record i am also certain the claims that he attempted to self deal are true.

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[–]Anton_Ternavsky 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Johann Gevers is 100% professional rogue.

All his so-called "commercial projects" have failed and the money of investors flowed into his pocket.

Who can say, there is at least one exception to this rule?

The fate of the Tezos Fund is also under threat!

This scoundrel, who does not have any success in his track record (he needs investor money, not success), already aimed at the Fund's money!

Gevers once engaged in auditing, he perfectly understands the whole procedure and cunning for audit's bypass.

[–]elkmoosebison 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the archive of gevers.com is some scary shit.. nobody like this should be handling money.

Over a period of more than twenty-five years, I experimented with many different concepts for a free society. Each of these models had its merits, but fell short of being the complete solution I was looking for. There was still a key ingredient missing. Finally, on August 27, 2004, I had a stunning insight that tied together all the other pieces of the puzzle. It was so elegantly simple that for some months I wondered if I was overlooking something. Gradually, however, through further research and discussions with some of the brightest minds working in this field, my confidence grew that this represented a real solution. The idea has evolved, developed, grown, and matured to where it is now ready for a wider audience. It is called The Freedom Universal. I founded the Institute for Freedom to advance this important work.

[–]ZHZ000 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Under no circumstance should we deliver the Tezos Protocol to a Tezos Foundation ruled by Herr Gevers.

We, the Community and DLS, must together break the contract with the Foundation and abandon the treasury, and launch the chain on our own. Later, we can reclaim the treasury through a legal fight.

The moment DLS puts the IP of Tezos in Herr Gever's hands, our fate is sealed.

Do not underestimate evil when it comes near you. This man long ago should have been in jail, and walk in the world as a convict.

The Swiss are playing a dangerous game shielding him, and they will come to pay an unbearable price. Engage the Swiss establishment on social media, and ask them disturbing questions.

[–]MountainMunchkin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ask MME some questions? They´ve been Johann´s lawyers for years. If someone should have known, they should have known.

[–]yjespy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who at MME is the best contact person? I agree, they had to have known some of this.... Does Johann have a special connection there with somebody?

[–]yjespy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does anybody have access to search for court records in South Africa, Europe and the U.S. to look into Gevers' past there? There are bound to be things that come up.

[–]Moneytrigz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

WTF did the breitmans not know this? foolish mistake and situation. till now VERY dissapointed with marketing & spending of this massive amount of funds. hopefully we can turn this around quickly

[–]brendamn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well someone put him in charge of the foundation

[–]MountainMunchkin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Johann successfully manipulated the Swiss establishment. Some very highly regarded figures recommended him and vouched for him. It is a monumental embarrassment for Switzerland, and it is also possible that one or two people among them knew but chose to collude?

I suspect the preference of the Swiss establishment would be to sweep this under the carpet and just make it go away. I don´t think that this will be possible, mostly because Johann has nothing else in his life, and will fight tooth and nail to the bitter end.

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