Recap

On September 9, 2025, the Congressional Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets held a public hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP). The third such hearing in as many years, it centered on restoring trust through transparency and whistleblower protection. Five witnesses testified: Jeffrey Nuccetelli (USAF), Senior Chief Alexandro Wiggins (USN), George Knapp, Dylan Borland (USAF), and Joe Spielberger.

Chairwoman Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) set the tone: “This is not science fiction. This is about national security, accountability, and the American people’s right to the truth.” For more than two hours, Congress and the public absorbed testimony from a hidden world only now being revealed. No single hearing can resolve every issue, but September 9 marked a milestone.

Momentum for the disclosure movement is building, and both Congress and the public must keep pressing for answers. Each witness brought powerful testimony, and while members asked pointed questions, many more remain. Below are key follow-up questions that Congress and the public should investigate.

Mr. Nuccetelli

Jeffrey Nuccetelli, a former USAF military police officer with sixteen years of service, commanded the security forces at one of the U.S. military’s most important aerospace defense facilities – Vandenburg Air Force Base, California. He testified that UAP repeatedly breached base security during sensitive space launches, including a dramatic encounter with a massive “black triangle” that came from the ocean, crossed the perimeter, descended near a military facility, and then vanished into the sky. Troops under his command were subsequently threatened into silence about the sighting.

Alarmingly, Mr. Nuccetelli’s account closely mirrors Dylan Borland’s testimony: both describe an unannounced black triangle operating at low-altitude over a military base before suddenly vanishing. These sightings also resemble two incidents in the Immaculate Constellation report — both involving black triangles over the Russian Navy. A historical study funded by Robert Bigelow tracked black triangle sightings across the U.S. for a nearly a decade, finding a strong correlation between black triangle sightings and to U.S. military bases.

Taken together, this body of evidence compels urgent questions: Who is operating these black triangles? What are they? Why are they permitted to fly with impunity over U.S. and Russian military installations? And most unsettling of all — does their ubiquitous presence signal a hidden pact between the world’s great powers, or the hand of an unknown third force moving freely above them all?

Senior Chief Wiggins

Alexandro Wiggins is an active-duty U.S. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer (Operations Specialist) with more than 23 years of service. He testified to a UAP encounter he witnessed at sea aboard the USS Jackson. In 2023, off the coast of Southern California, Senior Chief Wiggins and others in the ship’s Combat Information Center (CIC) observed four “Tic-Tac” shaped UAP emerge from the ocean, hover in formation, and then depart in unison at near-instantaneous speeds. The entire event was captured across multiple military systems, including radar, video, and multi-spectral sensors.

During the hearing, black-and-white infrared footage recorded aboard the USS Jackson was shown to the public. The shocking footage — visually similar and geographically proximate to the famous 2004 USS Nimitz Tic-Tac encounter—adds to a growing body of evidence for technologies of unknown origin (TUO) operating in and through our oceans. Alexandro’s testimony also confirmed that the U.S. military holds troves of high-quality, multi-source data on UAP events – both past and present.

Congress and the American public should now demand answers: where is the rest of the data? Where are the full-color, high-definition videos of these events—and why have they not been released? And perhaps most telling of all: if the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter ended with “men in suits” arriving by helicopter to confiscate the data, why were the crew and command of the 2023 USS Jackson encounter allowed to retain theirs?

Mr. Knapp

George Knapp, the legendary investigative reporter, nearly stole the show on September 9. There is likely no single person — outside the Legacy Program itself — who knows more about UAP, TUO, NHI, and the U.S. government’s response to these phenomena. As Chief Investigative Reporter for KLAS-TV, Mr. Knapp has spent more than 38 years investigating the UFO mystery.

Over the course of that decades-long investigation, he has uncovered answers few others have seen, some even originating in Russia during a brief window of post–Cold War openness. An entire hearing could, and arguably should, be devoted to “debriefing” Mr. Knapp. The documents and testimony Mr. Knapp introduced form a wealth of information whose implications are difficult to fully grasp, and which raised more questions than Congress had time to ask.

Among the most urgent questions posed by Mr. Knapp’s testimony: what legal authority allowed U.S. officials to intervene in the Bigelow–Lockheed negotiation for the transfer of UFO material? Did the CIA Directorate of Science and Technology leader, Glenn Gaffney, block the transfer in his official role, and if so, can Congress compel the release of evidence related to this decision? Is there evidence of Soviet and/or Russian cooperation with China on reverse engineering TUO, either in the past of present? And finally: will Congress invite the Russian Ambassador to testify about Thread III, Unit 73790, and the history of Russia’s response to the UFO issue?

Mr. Borland

Dylan Borland’s testimony included disturbing allegations of medical malpractice by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). His claims evoked the long, sordid, history of U.S. security services using the military and citizens as unwitting test subjects for unethical human experiments.

It is very likely that these clandestine practices have extended into the study of UAP, Technologies of Unknown Origin, and Non-Human Intelligence (NHI) — especially their biological effects on humans. Consistent and alarming reports from Americans who have witnessed UAP, livestock mutilations, or human abductions reveal an intense interest by “unknown parties” in the immediate and long-term physiological and psychological effects these encounters have on humans.

As a firsthand witness, on a military base, in close proximity to the most enigmatic UAP types (a black triangle) — Mr. Borland would almost certainly have been observed, tracked, and tagged for follow-up investigations by the clandestine Legacy Program. Given the documented history of secret government programs that subjected unwitting U.S. citizens to human experimentation, Congress and the American people should ask: what was the VA doing to Dylan Borland — and why?

Mr. Speilberger

Joe Spielberger, Senior Policy Counsel at the Project On Government Oversight (POGO), was a late addition to the witness list — and unlike the others, he did not testify directly about UAP. Instead, he spoke to a larger truth: whistleblowers are the first line of defense against government abuse, and retaliation against them corrodes public trust at its root.

His testimony raised a larger issue: will Washington’s think tanks — the Blob — finally take the UAP issue seriously? Love them or hate them, mainstream think-tanks still define the boundaries of what is considered “serious” in Washington. Will Congress and the public press mainstream policy think tanks: Atlantic Council, BAS, Brookings, CNAS, CSBA, CSIS, Heritage, NTI, etc. — to open their doors and welcome UAP whistleblowers into their halls without stigma or ridicule? Time will tell.

Closing

The September 9 hearing did not solve the UAP mystery but it did move us towards official disclosure in major, if sometimes subtle, ways. What was once fringe is now sworn testimony before Congress, supported by evidence and witnesses who risked their lives and their careers. Video footage has gone viral. As the audience heard from Congress last week, this is no longer about belief — it is about oversight, accountability, and whether we as a nation can face truths long concealed.

Those truths will not surface on their own. They will emerge only if the public insists, if Congress compels, and if whistleblowers are protected. Nuccetelli, Wiggins, Knapp, and Borland showed us how secrecy and retaliation have buried answers for decades. Now, those answers are coming to light.

What comes next? Will Congress dig deeper? Will the mainstream and the Washington “Blob” follow the leadership shown by Congress and UAP whistleblowers? And will UAP, TUO, and NHI be treated as real matters of national security and scientific discovery? The answers to these questions and more remain to be seen, but what is certain is that the choices we make now will determine the future we inherit.

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