For one, they popularized a shitty haircut but that's irrelevant compared to the other reasons.

Two, it's easy for them to fall for right wing propaganda, which is why conservative influencers and conservative media target them. There is a rightward shift with some of these Gen z men. These are the types of Gen z men that believe that women should be obedient to their husbands (because how dare women be autonomous and have their own minds?)

Three, some of them stayed home during a very critical election. If they went out and voted for Harris, we may have had her as President. We have to live with this orange racist POS felon as sitting President because of Gen Z's idiocy and apathy. Now it's said that there will be a draft for the Iran War and men 18-25 will be selected. I hope these broccoli headed Tiktok addicted little punks will be ready for this if it happens.

I do not want to hear how "progressive" this generation is and their progressivism is performative otherwise they wouldn't have stayed home during the 2024 election.

I'm not saying you should hate Gen z but it's okay to not like them either. You're not wrong either way. Feel free to share your thoughts.

And yes, I still think Gen z culture sucks. They're boring AF.

I genuinely feel bad for Gen Beta and Gen Gamma. Those poor kids are going to grow up and spend their entire lives listening to Gen Z act like they’re the first generation in human history to ever experience a bad economy, difficult politics, or general hardship.

Every family dinner, every classroom, every online space, some 40 year old Zoomer is going to be there saying: “You don’t understand… we had it the worst. The 2020s were literal hell. Trump, inflation, pandemics, culture war… no other generation had it this bad 😤”

Meanwhile Gen Beta is just sitting there like “My childhood had AI companions, gene editing, and we’re living through the actual recovery. Can you shut the fuck up about 2026 already?”

It’s going to be exactly like how Boomers spent decades obsessing over Vietnam, Nixon, and the 70s. Gen Z is going to be terminally stuck in the 2010s and 2020s, treating Trump like their personal boogeyman figure and acting like the 2020s were the defining trauma of all mankind.

They’ll make documentaries, write books, make passive-aggressive Facebook posts in 2050 about “kids these days don’t know how hard they have it.the future is cooked for them.”

Younger generations are going to be so tired of hearing about it. Just like how Millennials got tired of Boomer Vietnam stories, Gen Beta is going to develop a pavlovian eye-roll response every time a Zoomer starts with “Well in the 2020s…”

Zoomers and Gen Beta have an inversion of Boomers and Millennials where Zoomers go around taking about how young people have it *harder* than them, while young people have to push back and say life is not bad and it's not the 2020s anymore.

Right now Gen Z loves playing the “we had it the worst” card. But fast forward 15 to 20 years and you’re going to see full grown Zoomers in their 40s and 50s going around telling Gen Beta kids: “You don’t understand how hard we had it back in the 2020s… the economy was cooked, politics was insane, social media was toxic, everything was awful 😩 and there's no way out. You kids have it so much harder.”

And Gen Beta is going to look at them like they’re insane and hit them with: “It’s not the 2020s anymore. We’re not living through peak clown world. Life is not that bad. Stop projecting your trauma onto us.”

It’s the perfect inversion of Boomers vs Millennials.

Boomers spent decades telling younger people “you have it so easy.”

Zoomers are going to spend decades telling younger people “you have it so hard.”

Gen Beta is going to be the ones rolling their eyes, just like Millennials did, saying “Can y’all shut the fuck up about your 2020s trauma already? We’re trying to live in the present.”

The same generation that called Boomers out of touch is going to become the most insufferable “back in my day it was apocalyptic and the world is still apocalyptic” generation in recent memory.

Saw a post on here about the rise of conservatism in gen z males. I had a few things to add, but my post was too long to be a comment haha. I want to specify that I don't have data to back this up off the top of my head, I'm more sharing this to see if other people see this situation similarly to me. I'm not posting this as some sort of intellectual flex or some bs like that. Genuinely I just want to see if people see the same patterns I see.

In my experience as gen z male, I've found that there are a very big mix of factors that have been causing a rise in conservatism. I think what the most major factor in causing this is that gen z men and women just have had very different upbringings.

My sister is not that much older than me, but she was raised in a world full of invisible rules against women that have been around for generations. Because of that I find gen z women to be smarter than gen z men on average. They have to learn how to play by really awful rules and make the best of it.

Gen z men (mainly applies to white suburban gen z men) were moreso raised in an environment of relative privilege and video games. Like I was definitely less social growing up cause I would try again and again and just be very bad at it until I got older. If a gen z man runs into an issue, he typically runs away from it instead of confronting it head on. Sure one might say that he's "on the grind" or on a "winter arc" at the gym, but ultimately they stay stubborn in there ways and keep having relatively the same issues over and over again because they were never raised in a world where they were encouraged to internalize other peoples perspectives.

Ironically, the patriarchal order geared towards men has actually worked against men, because very rich men have made the observation women are more reliable and that they can get away with underpaying them. The one statistic I really can say is that women out represent men in higher education for example. So basically you have women filling the hierarchy of jobs that require education because oligarchs running American Businesses see their value to there own profits more.

I find that because as men were taught that our stubbornness is okay we end up getting blocked from a lot of career opportunities. I'm not saying every gen z man is like this, but I know a lot of gen z men that are just kind of socially inept shut ins who live very dependent lifestyles.

I think the reason why dating was "easier" for previous generations is that the standards for respect were not as high and people were not chronically online back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s etc. I think more men back then were pushed into social situations so they developed much healthier senses of empathy overall.

So if you're a woman looking to date, you probably don't want to go for the socially inept weird chronically online dude who blames other people for his problems and doesn't take care of himself. Because of that I think there are many gen z men feel resentful towards women and hold regressive beliefs because their pride is on the line.

I kind of felt cautious about posting this because I know I'm gonna get some "you're a self hating man" or "performative male" comments, and I gotta say. I don't read Jane Austen or Drink Matcha so I don't think I can be put in that category so easily.

My point is that I think if men in gen z developed empathy for women's experiences and saw women excelling as a reason to better themselves instead of put people down, we'd all be in a relatively better place.

I made a post abt gen z and the rise of misogynistic views on the rant sub, and I didn't expect so many men to switch the victim card. I was talking about how men want women to be pets; stay at home moms and not work, and then the men starting getting upset saying they had problems. And then when i asked them to give me specific examples, they couldn't give me any or gave a topic that was easily debatable. Finally when everyone started calling out these men (some men included too!), downvoting and commenting, they doubled down.

tsk tsk

What is it with zoomers and performative asceticism? No Shave Novemver began as a campaign to bring awareness of prostate cancer (very wholesome)...zoomers took it and turned it into No Nut November (ironically, frequent ejaculation can help reduce the risk of prostate cancer).

But even NNN is basic compared to the ascericism zoomers try now...rawdogging a flight (ie no food, water, or sleep during a long flight)...No Poop July, where you hold off deficating as long as possible in the month of July (extra hard mode combining with the Only Taco Bell July challenge)...

And all this not for enlightment or even as some protest against consumerism/materialism...but for online clout?

Expect memes to be made from Generation Alpha depicting Gen Z as old people such as "What I hear when a Zoomer complains about how difficult dating is 🧓".

Gen Alpha has the right to call Gen Z "grandma" because they see Zoomers as a generation that are 66 year olds inside the body of 22 year olds. They're grumpy, "burned out", always tired, likes to complain a lot, thinks holding extremely bigoted views makes them "based".

Generation Alpha will make posts saying "I went to high school with several Zoomer seniors. They were all bark and no bite." or "My older Gen Z siblings hated everything and everyone, including possibly me."

“Gen Z acted like 45 year old divorcees at age 17. Like why were you so tired??”

“My Zoomer brother told me I was ‘too optimistic.’ Sorry for not being clinically racist by 18?”

“They really thought doomposting was a personality.”

Gen Alpha at 14 ends up having the complete opposite views as Zoomers at their age, showing Gen Z really was the exception, not the rule.

Zoomers try to avoid accountability and feel self-righeous about any age gap in a relationships with "mUh FrOnTaL cOrTeXt Is NoT fUlLy FoRmEd BeFoRe AgE 25"...

Goes out in droves and votes Trump/MAGA as soon as they turn 18 and want voting age lowered still...

I love how the source of this is a Gen Z Tik Tokker...and even the article mentions how the okdest Gen Alpha is less than 14 years old...

Gen Z, you are adults and late teens (show your "mUh fUlLy DeVeLoPeD bRaIn" or apply the same to Gen Alpha), Gen Alpha are literal children.

I feel this is just an extension of zoomers' seething about Millennials, as Gen Alpha are mostly children of Millennials.

I’m very happy that I found this community, because I can’t stand the Zoomers and how everything they touch turns to shit.

Try explaining to a Zoomer how they are now being called the NEET generation (not in employment, education, or training) and how there is plenty of supporting data which shows plummeting employment, college graduation, and military enlistment rates for their age demographic. The worst is part is they will actually try to justify not doing ANYTHING in life, but not have any sort of alternative plan for their life or career path.

These aren’t children anymore mind you, the oldest Zoomers are now 30 goddamn years old, and they still act like super soft 12-year-olds with their constant crying and complaining and victim mentality.

They can’t even cooperate with the opposite gender for fucks sake, I mean, they are in a GENDER WAR!! Can you imagine such a thing? Being a grown man who is old enough to be drafted for a REAL war, and not being embarrassed to be a part of a generation that hates woman so much that they would push Trump back into office just because of their woman-hating ideals?

I could literally keep going, because they really are that pathetic of a generation, but I would love to hear why y’all hate the Zoomers.

i have no reason to talk about the guy but whenever i see flair 7 and that image trying to mock him and call him ugly, which is ironic, im both embarrassed how a mod killed this sub for a bit and the rule and image is just cringy, but also smirk remember that mod's genuine rage and madness seeing that gen z men were the ones who did not like the man while everyone else here did

Everyone there just brags about their life experiences about having moved out with their own house and had kids and paying taxes like that’s a “flex” on millennials who aren’t as fortunate. They’re constantly attacking millennials for being “infantile” or “childish/cringe”, I’m sitting over here like what does that have to do with us? Who cares how millennials live their life? I’m a neurodivergent zoomer who is having the same financial and social struggles as a lot of millennials. Our generation isn’t really that much “better” or more accomplished at anything. It’s just a few rich kids (kids of doctors and lawyers) that think they represent everybody. It’s not about nostalgia anymore, it’s about judging millennials. Millennials this, millennials that, who cares? Millennials aren’t even the ones harassing Gen Z at work, it’s the boomers and older Gen X. I can’t understand their beef with a generation that preaches about tolerance.

I shared some examples on the other sub and they said that it wasn’t “that bad”:

Is cringe culture becoming normalized again? I feel like I’m talking to a bunch of miniature boomers. Wtf is going on? What’s with the cruelty, apathy and elitism that the millennials worked so hard to eradicate from society?

I feel like I’m going crazy when I point out the hatefulness and overall weirdness of my generation.

A bunch of teens from all over, which includes Wasilla, Alaska, which is where they body slammed an employee, Red Lion, Pennsylvania, Germany, England and other places where teen, mainly teen boys, shocker, were throwing food, talking all throughout the movie, yelling, and had so many managers and employees pause the movie, mind you, a lot of the time they weren't 10 minutes in and yell at them, and then had the audacity to complain about being called out. if gen alpha did that, they will NEVER let that go and go on and on about how evil and awful gen alpha are and somehow find a way to blame millennials because "erm millennials actually created the interest and they taught gen z everything....so it's there fault"

And the way it's this movie only that they are this fucking insufferable with. There was a random fight at the FNAF movie but other than that. and ofc there's some pick me millennials going "You hating on them should've seen arcades in the 90s" and i saw one say "I'm 33 and still launched chocolate raisinettes in every movie on a rotation of a 17 min loop" you are a straight man ofc you are being a pick me to my gen for acting like savages for such a dog shit movie that they originally hated on because of the CGI and because a black woman was in it.

If anybody else acted like this, generation wise or movie wise, the internet would hate them. I mean people were lying at Taylor Swift fans acting bad other than that one video of that group of girls dancing in a circle. But we gotta protect straight teen gen z boys as always.

Anyone else encounter the pardoxical Zoomer aggression? Too "anxious" or order fast food or correct an order; but, seems ready to get into fights? Not too long ago, was driving on two-lane highway; dumo truck in right lane, 16- wheeler in left lane. I'm behind 16-wheeler, rice burner driven by 🥦 behind me. Apparently, thought the slower traffic was my fault, followed me off exit ramp, flipping me iff and yelling "come out! You know what you did, face me like a man!"

Just one if numerous stories I can tell if zoomers trying to pick fights over misplaced anger.

Hope these zoomers have this aggression when they get drafted for WWIII.

If it isn't a joke...

You're a cuck bootlicker for posting or liking it.

😇

That’s it. That’s the statement. So just know that when we remove posts or comments, it’s mainly either low brow crap or you’re preaching to the wrong community. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. Bye Felicia 👋 ✌️

This isn't about The UnitedHealthCare incident if that weirdo mod becomes unsuspended because he literally crashed out over everyone here was on Mario's brother side, but this is about the Amazon Union Strikes and im still gonna risk it because I like complaining. Whenever I see a Tiktok about it, half of the comments are from young men going "just put the package on my porch bro" like the entitlement is insane, even after everything that happened.

I really don't get why so many gen z men (men in general, again, but as a gen z man, ik so many guys on discord my age who are bootlickers) are siding with the rich. Like pretty much every gen z woman and afab people in general ik are on the working class side and the few who aren't are DRAGGED for being stupid.

They hate women who look like non-binary lesbians, yet revere weasels like timothee chalamet who look like non-binary lesbians.

Even in comments sections on YouTube etc, if a woman looks androgynous you’ll see everyone roasting her and calling her a “thing” a “tranny” etc. but the funny thing is, she basically just looks like these pubescent ratty looking male TikTok stars that these same exact people find attractive. The only difference is that they are male.

What they hate isn’t her androgynous appearance, but literally just the knowledge that she has female genitals. Because if she looked exactly the same but with a y chromosome, she’d be adored.

Meanwhile if theres a boy who looks like a girl on T therapy (aka chalamet), everyone simps for him or has sympathy.

So basically a girl still has to be perfectly beautiful and feminine just to get creepy sexual comments or jealous haters putting her down, but a man can look like an emaciated middle schooler and get million dollar contracts and a legion of girls defending him with the stupid “pRotEcC hIM aT aLL cOsts” shit.

It’s like how Korean gen z apparently really hates short haired feminist women but reveres male pop stars who look like short haired feminist women. That to me is misogyny in its purest form, It shows that it’s not masculinity that gen z values, but simply the bare minimum of being genetically male that gen z values.

It is a hatred of womanhood in its purest form.

What Millennials popularized: healthy eating trends, entrepreneurship, digital nomads

What zoomers popularized: incel rhetoric, doomer memes, internet ebonics

Am I missing anything?

That's it that's the post.

I just have to know. Does anyone else just meet zoomers that have the most inflated ego and always misreading or misunderstanding what you say while trying to act like they’re more intelligent and aware of a situation than you?. Cause holy fuck it’s getting on my nerves and starting to make me feel like I’m crazy or something.

Some zoomer made a post in another sub whining about all the grief genz gets and continually misread my comment.

I suggested that he get hooked on phonics and quit whining about it. So he blocked me.

Ahhhh. This feels good.

They all sound like some variation of this basically:

“YOOOO”

“LMAO fr”

“bruh ngl”

“yo im dead lololol 💀”

"ur a beta cuck old hed hahaha"

Like they have the most cringy low effort misspelled grammatically abominable sentences with the weirdest capitalization. They write like a cross between a dementia patient and a Russian bot.

Half the stuff they write genuinely makes zero sense and if I wasn’t familiar with how low IQ and stupid zoomers were, I’d honestly think it was a bot writing their shit.

Every other sentence is “bRO” “bRuH” “nGl” or IN ALL CAPS. It used to be only a minority of trash spoke like this but now it’s the entire fucking generation.

Again they write like cheap bots but then, with ZERO self awareness, act butthurt when we call them stupid.

It’s like they don’t have enough neurons making them capable of reason. Most pathetic and disappointing generation.

I was asking the new hires (19 yo) how they felt about congress overwhelmingly vote to ban tik tok and trumps pics being in favor of banning it.

They didn't believe me. Even after showing them the evidence. They said it's not trending on X so they don't believe it.........................

I think I'm done with this simulation.

This is all anecdotal so I’m hoping it’s not a widespread issue, but I know a few folks who have recently hired Gen Zs in entry-level positions or internships, and they all have a similar experience: these twenty-something “kids” do not have even a cursory understanding of fractions/percentages/decimals, or you know, just basic f-ing math.

They can’t do their timesheets because they don’t understand that 15 minutes is equal to .25; they can’t use a ruler or a tape measure because they don’t know what the marks indicate; if someone says “just add 30% to the budget,” they have absolutely no idea how to do that; one of them couldn’t even tell my friend what half of 50 was (swear to God), and he’s a senior in college getting ready to graduate.

How is this possible and has anyone else experienced anything similar? One friend had a theory that this was due to the “no child left behind” policies from the early 2000s but I really don’t understand how someone gets through COLLEGE without having this very basic knowledge.

What gives?

Legit tired of them coming in here and complaining that no one likes them… Have they not been ageist and hateful against literally everyone their ENTIRE TIME online? Lmao I remember being 18 on tumblr, 10+ years ago and zoomers EVEN THEN would cry about how “when I’m 18 I’ll never use the internet that’s for losers!” Just a few years ago, I was having to constantly read comments from BOTH zoomer women AND men complaining about how people are “washed up” at 25 and they’re soooo scared to turn 25.
Also the “ok boomer” meme was never like, “OK BOOMER! Except for the boomers born in 1969, those boomers are the cool ones!!!” We dislike boomers for the same reason we dislike zoomers, they aren’t doing their part and constantly fight with everyone. I have no clue what they don’t understand about that. It is not making me feel sorry for them in anyway, it’s like the annoying kid in class who bothers EVERYONE and then cries and tells the teachers if they get called a nerd.