/soy/ - Soyjaks

Different. Some are irl jartycucks, some were groomed into it

they are raped but choose to be narcissistic public degenerates themselves, if they were just victims they would not scream for the world to accept them

i think its like a cycle. they get groomed into trooning out at a young age with pinkpilling and whatnot with "le heckin' troon memerinos", they get a little older and when they start mutilating themselves with hormones and shiet, they (dont) realise they're too far gone, and then they start to convince xhemselves that what they did is completely fine (trooning out at 14 o algo). then as they get even older, they feel as though they could "help" the newer, younger generation by assisting them with trooning. and atp they're full humonculus faggotoids with no chance of return.

>>16814850
yeah its like a contagious mental illness

>>16814859
i had a friend in 7th grade that trooned out when they were fuggen 12 (female to male), and they said that it was their "uncles" and whatnot supporting them (one of them was a convicted rapist). though it could be that they were touched by them though

>>16814850
this whole tranny and lgbt shit is a jewish racket, this cycle is accelerated and actively pushed by the mainstream media, academia and education systems of western countries
While trannies and fags harm themselves and others due to their delusions being validated and seeming real to them, time marches on and reality shows them their whole identity is just a mental illness and delusion and then xhey ack
while the jews win with their gorillion dollar profits from the whole thing
>>16814879
idk ur exact situation but if someone i knew trooned or fagged out i would try to convince them showing all sorts of evidence of suicide rates and aids and so on and horrific axe wounds the reality of being a tranny, but approaching them in a hostile way reinforces their identity cuz psychologically when someone feels attacked due to their identity the identity seems more real and more stronger, they feel attacked so they feel emotional and their mind is not reasonable as it goes into argument and screaming mode, they need to listen to the evidence and the reasoning to realize what being a tranny/fag does to someone's life

>>16814752 (OP)
This is an interesting philosophical question. Is any person born good or evil like a D&D character or is it their envoirement that shaped them into what they are?
But ultimately it doesn't matter because they are degenerates whose entire lives revolve around fetishes and sexual degeneracy and who modif y their body for the purpose of sexual pleasure so they are a stain upon this world and deserve to die.

>>16814900
vast majority of people are average, that means people are just born normal, they arent expectionally kind and empathetic, they arent expectionally psychopathic and evil. Only a tiny minority of people are born expectionally good or bad while most of us are just normal
And that averageness or normalcy really depends on the enviorenment to shape us, so most of us are born neutral, and we get shaped by our enviorenment
If a tranny by their enviorenment has been constantly told that they can be happy and at peace if they just "become who they really are" over and over again constantly, cutting their cock and balls off, injecting hormones into their bodies seems like a good thing for happiness
I think it does matter because if the institutions and society recognizes transgenderism and faggotry as mental illnesses, they can get the proper treatment they need and not "validation" of their delusions leading to mass suicide, self harm and suffering
They're still similar to us in a way, we're all searching for happiness and peace in this life but they've been lied to that faggotry or transgenderism is the way

>>16814888
around the same time they started trooning out, like 7 years ago, they joined mi friends 'cord server and were asking for "men" roles and my friends were just thinking how could they be so obsessed with faggotry at such a young age. its vexing because ev&oe xhey surrounded xhemselves with faggots, they got a boyfriend, broke up wit dem in 11th grade, then vanished. hopefully xhey detroonsition and get a grip

>>>16814900
>vast majority of people are average, that means people are just born normal, they arent expectionally kind and empathetic, they arent expectionally psychopathic and evil. Only a tiny minority of people are born expectionally good or bad while most of us are just normal
>And that averageness or normalcy really depends on the enviorenment to shape us, so most of us are born neutral, and we get shaped by our enviorenment
>If a tranny by their enviorenment has been constantly told that they can be happy and at peace if they just "become who they really are" over and over again constantly, cutting their cock and balls off, injecting hormones into their bodies seems like a good thing for happiness
>I think it does matter because if the institutions and society recognizes transgenderism and faggotry as mental illnesses, they can get the proper treatment they need and not "validation" of their delusions leading to mass suicide, self harm and suffering
>They're still similar to us in a way, we're all searching for happiness and peace in this life but they've been lied to that faggotry or transgenderism is the way

i say dis. it sparks the very mellow question that, if you raised someone in a pod for their whole life without interaction with the internet and were released with basic knowledge and comprehension, would they hate everything about trooning or would their human psyche be very malleable?

>>16814926
for teenagers confused about the world, confused about their identity, they're especially vulnurable to this lgbt raisin.
>>16814934
>if you raised someone in a pod for their whole life without interaction with the internet and were released with basic knowledge and comprehension, would they hate everything about trooning or would their human psyche be very malleable?
Most likely they would support trannies and lgbtoids, mainstream internet websites have a fanatical support for lgbt rights and anti bigotry rules, 'tube, facebook, xitter, 'tok. The most popular parts of the internet always contain an obsessive support of lgbt ideology and obsessive hatred against anything that goes against lgbt. Like on the normie internet being a homophobe or transphobe is treated like you've killed someone and you deserve to be fired from all of your jobs, all of your accounts 'nished and so on.
So if their entire source of senses, culture, community, information and knowledge come from the internet entirely from birth, they would just be another fanatic soyboy supporting whatever is popular and gets the most updoots
Theres an inner repulsion towards homosexuality and by extension transgenderism proven by many studies but that can be easily overpowered by bigotry le bad with 6 gorillion updoots on preddit

>>16814752 (OP)
Many truths exist simultaneously in the world, they can be both. You can get into bad crowd and become a nasty person, menace to society, without realizing it because you belong now, and that's all that matters. I spent unreasonable time (anywhere above 5 minutes) to try and understand how gender freaks think for fun. And I failed because its less about any kind of set rules and more about feelings. They've been essentially lobotomized to justify whatever they or anybody else in the circle wants to do as "feelings". Oh you're They/She aromantic otherkin puppygirl yeah well that makes sense. There is a point of no return with this sort of stuff, its easier to convince someone to believe in something than tell them its all made up nonsense, its especially difficult when its of sexual nature because they associate it with feeling good, it becomes addiction. And like with all addictions anything that threatens it, makes retreat into it to cope.

>>16815004
There is always a point of return, they can get off the internet, stop being a terminally online freak and try to live life in reality instead of this insane hyperreality of discord servers roleplaying as they them trans xenogenders.
Unless they've already mutilated themselves, then its pretty grim and hard to return. Its still possible for them to live out their life as a mutilated freak but still trying to change for the better.
Its definitely easier to appeal to emotions and "feel good" ideas especially on the internet rather than reasoning and evidence which causes discomfort and pain, but that spark of light still exists because ultimately the truth prevails, who knows if a few trannies went on this site, saw transgenderism's abominations that is hidden by the mainstream and decided to change. Still majority of them wont change because thats just how the internet and echo chambers are like

>>16814984
>Theres an inner repulsion towards homosexuality and by extension transgenderism proven by many studies but that can be easily overpowered by bigotry le bad with 6 gorillion updoots on preddit

I feel this way towards every gay and trans person i meet. even if they're in my same age group; not too obsessive, not too faggoty but still look like a troon. ill be chill but theres something deep down that just cannot physically accept it. its sort of like knowing your friend's worst secret, and how all you can think of when seeing them is their worst secret. asthough "troon" is plastered all over their identity like a smokescreen.
im an omegafence-sitter in most conversations since i dont want some obsessed faggot raping me ears o algo, but it gets to a point that i cant suppress.

Some get groomed into it some get groomed into it and groom others into it it's sad actually

>>16815037
>ill be chill but theres something deep down that just cannot physically accept it
The evidence by soyence literally proves as humans we're naturally disgusted by homosexuality
We're naturally disgusted by homosexuality, theres nothing wrong with it. Never let these nwo retards make you think that you're uniquely hateful or bigoted, homosexuality is simply a defect and its our natural response to be repulsed by this defect

>>16815029
>Still majority of them wont change because thats just how the internet and echo chambers are like

i particularly pity them and wish a swift recovery whenever they have self doubts, but as you said with echo chambers, if they never leave those regions they'll just ask their valid queens how they're feeling super heckin' down and want to ack, and it will then snowball into a reverse-bandage, putting plaster over an infected wound and turning a blind eye, thinking that "everything will be okay as long as i have my TRUE valid online friends", eventhough 95% of the human population isnt calling them troons because they fuggen bigots, but rather wish them a healthy recovery from their own depressive dichotomy of whether they should ack or keep going.

>>16815051
>homosexuality is simply a defect and its our natural response to be repulsed by this defect
yeah ive always wondered this. sure, if some nigga wants to be a faggot go for it, but do it without telling anybody. its similar to expressing your sexual fetishes like furries, but for some reason its super widely accepted by the media and is even enforced in nearly every literacy class across the world. Humanity didnt get where we are today by sodomizing every turbo-faggot on-sight, but rather intercourse with a male and a female (the most heckin' beautiful thing ever since thats how i was born). its just ridiculous.

I think it's 50/50. Some of them are degenerates, some of them are victims of psyops and bad influence

>>16815082
i think it all starts from grooming. like, they get epi'd at a young age and start obsessing all over porn and eventually get hooked on worse things (most digital porn is made by faggots), and then there are those that are more-so "encouraged" by bad actors and the zogged media. i think the epi rabbit hole is where things derail and escalate really quick (between 4-5 years xhey could have acked already), and the other trooning method taking roughly 7 years to fully 'ape their brain but not ack yet

>>16815058
>but rather wish them a healthy recovery from their own depressive dichotomy of whether they should ack or keep going.
True most homophobes or transphobes arent sharty using trolls, they're just concerned parents and non internet using people who just want the best for them, but they dont see this as a good intentioned advice, they see it as an attack on their identity, they're extremely delusional and detached from reality.
A parent telling their child cutting their cock off isnt the best path towards happiness and well being is an evil transphobe bigot
>>16815068
ive attached a gemmy pdf, it needs to be shared around because it exposes the truth

>>16815104
>but they dont see this as a good intentioned advice, they see it as an attack on their identity
since nearly all of them had unstable childhoods, either with lacking parental figures or rough tutelage, it depends on whether or not they trust the larger majority of concerned parents, rather than their own. since its very unlikely that they do trust their own, they would definitely see it as a threat to their identity as you said. or there could be the parents that encourage trooning and shelter their kids, building a wall of "trust", and how every other parent is wrong and "super heckin' evil".

>ive attached a gemmy pdf, it needs to be shared around because it exposes the truth
dis is gemmy. i have a feeling its more a reinforcement on beliefs and facts that un-groomed people would agree upon, rather than to help the troons really see past their mistakes, since most of them see "The goal of this document is not to spread hate but only to inform", and immediately shut the pdf down, since they cant risk their safety bubble being popped, and that everything they've been told to believe is a lie

>>16814752 (OP)
>Are trannies evil people or victims of mental illness?
My rule of thumb is that the second they begin trying to spread their illness to others (i.e. groom others, nearly always children), they become evil people and lose any and all of my sympathy.

>>16815148
i agree with this wholeheartedly. i always wish i could just strip the internet access from them and send them to a rehabilitation centre with old folk and have them play scrabble and go-fish all day. its pointless living a life like this if all they do is obsess over how to set up anothers life for failure, such as themselves.

>>16814752 (OP)
Both.

>>16815104
i don't get why the furry part is there; mostly rnca outside of internet
>Lesbians are more likely than heterosexual women to smoke
how much more likely

>>16815127
as traditional idea of parents, father figure, role model, teachers, decline and inevitably ceases to exist, the internet will replace them.
This is not opinion based at all, its just an observation and prediction of the future. Children no longer rely on their own nation's culture meaning the group and the people around them in reality, they get culture from the internet. Children no longer ask for irl fathers and mentors for advice, they get advice and help from chatgpt or pseudo e-father figures like andrew tate or clavicular
There will be an unseen in history breakdown of how human beings live, pre internet, a child's entire reality and the things they knew was just based on the small group of people around them, their family and parents, their teacher, their friends, it was their small community which raised them making them who they are, and who they are becomes a part of whatever group whether its a religion,race,nation they are.
But now children's worlds are the internet, values, traditions, culture, beliefs, friends, socializing is all from the internet now, those things are important because they determine how children learn the world.
Like from fairytales or books or cultural pieces of a nation, their unique way of life and how to interact with people and the world is taught and revealed.
But now the future of humanity is gonna be ipad scrolling kids, no real life culture, no real life community, no real life traditions, rootless identityless schizoid 21st century bugmen
I dont know whether all of this is gonna be good or bad, my opinions are not involved here, everything here is just a neutral observation

>>16815247
>I dont know whether all of this is gonna be good or bad
obviously bad the internet is populated by ai bots and cosmopolitan capitalists who'd have 'p legal if it meant 0.2% gee dee pee

God wrote of this, sinning itself isn't as bad as bringing other people to sin:
I've met a few handful of troonies on the 'net that encouraged ACTUAL 13 YEAR OLD KIDS (xhey were like 22) to start HRT as soon as possible because "the earlier the better" and to hide it from their parents who didn't agree with the idea. I want to promise myself that if I ever witness something like that happening in front of me I'd leave the tranny paralyzed

>>16815238
idk, i havent fully read and understood the things there, i just glanced at it
>>16815247
>>16815253
True but the common sentiment of fighting technological progress is just futile, human history attests to technological progress as an unstoppable force of nature. Thinking we can return to pre internet world is just not possible.
The only realistic solution is preparing to adapt to this new world of internet people with no real life community
The internet with all its bad things, can also be used for great things such as being the biggest library in all of human history, it can be used to learn math, music, whatever hobbies, create content and express yourself.
The internet has such a good potential to be the greatest artificial unseen in history city of art, science and beauty but its a toilet now

>>16815265
yeah those freaks online are definitely the ones that should get publicly stoned. just makes me shiver with "earlier the better". i think its something that they get off to, being able to almost "collect" another victim and invite them into their mutilation-cult, which is super plausible since they are the ones who are all porn addicted.

>>16815247
before it was a centralized community, with the standards being set in stone, providing a healthy early life as everyone around you is living your life as well. when all these kids are becoming terminally online via social medias, they're subjected to far different standards than ones they should have grown up with, such as the media enforcing bad topics in regular matters, schooling or general debates that should require no external intervention. elaborating on that, with sexual education classes turning into "inclusivity on exploring your gender" classes, it genuinely seems like its over.

>>16815275
What makes me scared is the fact that they tell them to hide it from anyone that they aren't sure will 100% support them, because this way there's just no way that they could ever possibly change their mind and be brought back to reason, and if they do eventually it will be too late

>>16815301
the eldertroons are the ones who are most afraid of having their test-subjects leave them, so they resort to manipulation tactics to keep their victims (and xhemselves) in check. this is probably why their mental fortitude is so shabby, as all they've been able to do throughout their lives is lie to themselves and to others about how good it is to be trans

>>16814752 (OP)