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The West Has Fallen and Billions Must Die are catchphrases often used together in memes parodying unsuccessful but resentful supporters of alt-right politics. The phrases reflect resentment at globalization and overpopulation trends, and are associated with similar memes such as it's over and the Great Reset memes. The phrases often appear in memes featuring Chudjak.

Origin

The phrase "billions must die" (also "millions must die") references the concept of depopulation, a deliberate reduction in the human population size which theoretically pursues making human life on Earth more sustainable. The phrase sometimes also implies ethnic cleansing, carrying a racist sentiment. The phrase has been brought up as part of discussions pertaining to the Great Reset, having been misattributed to the executive chairman of the World Economic Forum Klaus Schwab.[1]

The phrase "the West has fallen" references the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, which claims that a "global elite" aims to replace the white population of Europe with non-European peoples. The phrase has been used on 4chan's /pol/ and other imageboards, as well as on mainstream social media, in contexts of discussions pertaining to immigration policies of European countries and other countries with predominantly white populations.

Starting in mid-2022, the phrase "billions must die" became widely used among alt-right and far-right posters on Twitter. For example, on August 28th, a collection of several tweets with the phrase was posted in the subreddit /r/TheRightCantMeme,[2] with the post gaining over 1,100 upvotes in four months (two tweets shown below, left and right).


What's up with right wingers with anime profiles posting the most batshit insane fantasies Stýrimann til Gripær @styrimangroyper The sentiment behind "billions must die" is that billions of people are superfluous. I genuinely cannot image a world that thrives with a billion Africans, a billion Mexicans, a billion cripples and retards. scuffed wiley @scuffed bob Aug 26 I understand the sentiment behind it: the rage at modernity, the lack any real tests of mettle, the normative comatose mundanity of it all. Show this thread . ... 10:12 PM. Aug 26, 2022 Twitter Web App What's up with right wingers with anime profiles posting the most batshit insane fantasies Tweet Pirate Groyper @groyper_pirate Open app ... "I would never harm an innocent insect. Billions of subhumans must die."

In September 2022, the phrase achieved association with Chudjak, a Wojak character meant to represent resentful supporters of alt-right politics whose anger is allegedly rooted in their involuntary celibacy and general life dissatisfaction. For example, on September 13th, 2022, Twitter[3] user @CzechSchizo posted a version based on the Live, Laugh, Love mantra, with the tweet gaining over 50 retweets and 500 likes (shown below, left). At that time, an unknown Soyjak.party[4] imageboard user posted a Chudjak wearing a shirt reading "billions must die," with the image being spread on the imageboard and later outside of it (shown below, right).


CzechSchizo @CzechSchizo "millions must LIVE" "millions must LAUGH" "millions must LOVE" s 3:36 PM - Sep 13, 2022 ICALLY INCOR ….. U Billions must DIE

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Starting in mid-September 2022, more Chudjak memes paired with versions of the phrase were posted on Twitter, iFunny and other social media websites. For example, on September 14th, iFunny[5] user HighFiveGhostOfKiev posted a Wagie version of the meme that gained 10 smiles in three months (shown below, left). On October 19th, 2022, Twitter[6] user @euradvok posted a meme that gained over 20 retweets and 270 likes (shown below, right).


WELCOME TO CHUDBURGER M MILLIONS MUST FRY Eurasien-Advokat (Halbe Buch) @euradvok Can't find GF. Millions must pröööhh. Daily Mail FOLLOW NEWS Angry wild elephant 'destroys cars and houses' in a Chinese town after 'failing to find a 7:21 AM - Oct 19, 2022

By early November 2022, Chudjak gained an association with the "the West has fallen" catchphrase. For example, on November 6th, Twitter[7] user @Chydayeen posted a meme that gained over 150 retweets and 1,600 likes in two months (shown below, left). On November 24th, Twitter[8] user @burettosama posted a meme that accumulated over 130 retweets and 1,000 likes in one month (shown below, right).


"It's over" Chudayeen @Chudayeen "I know" "The west has-" "Fallen, yes I'm aware" 66 99 "What were yuo going to say next? Millions must die? Newcels..." ITS OVER 3:30 PM Nov 6, 2022 Brett @burettosama "The West has fallen. It's over." "It's what, Brian? Over." 6:53 PM Nov 24, 2022 :

In December 2022, both phrases were used in conjunction with the Chudjak meme, most notably on Twitter.

It's Over

It's Over refers to a series of captioned image macros and reaction images using a person, character, animal or Wojak that is making a sad, defeated or depressed face.


IT'S OVER IT'S OVER

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STOR Zane >just saw a girl with unbounded feet >millions must pass examination >the East has fallen >Society has collapsed Liech @prussianyankee CO 4:40 PM Dec 26, 2022 A ACAL 36364 265 Mod Ostwestfalen-Lippe Region in Germany (=-3 V Goodbye Mom! Ssock IV "the idle" @Sasockpuppet "The yearbook photo has been taken. Millions must sign." 1:24 PM Dec 26, 2022
Solzhenixon @sardonic_greek "Dad, it's called the west. And it's fallen. It's over" "It's ovah?" "Yeah. And now millions have to die." "Millions?? Whadda f---!??” "Maybe billions." 3:28 PM Dec 23, 2022 JayNico the Cimmerian @JackdawJackal The West has fallen, and so have I... for you 1:01 AM.Dec 20, 2022 큰 : President-Elect Toguro @PresidentToguro "When I saw a tiktok of a boy dressed like a cat, calling himself a catboy, I felt a throbbing sensation in my pants. That's when I knew that the West has fallen." 11:54 PM Dec 7, 2022 HE G

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  • jijm8950 - about a year ago

    Billions must be stupid with no logical reasoning and vote for gump

    Billions must be stupid with no logical reasoning and vote for gump

    • aquaneutral - 9 months ago

      i would vote for forrest gump for president 2028

      i would vote for forrest gump for president 2028

    • This reminds me of that weird kid in class who gets picked on for being special or a nerd or something and wants to take over the world.

      This reminds me of that weird kid in class who gets picked on for being special or a nerd or something and wants to take over the world.

      • Oh yay, yet another lazy, low-effort wojak meme. Because we were definitely running low on those.

        Oh yay, yet another lazy, low-effort wojak meme. Because we were definitely running low on those.

        • tongyman - 2 years ago

          white people fell off so hard

          white people fell off so hard

          • Red123 - 2 years ago

            Sneed has fallen. Billions must fuck and suck.

            Sneed has fallen. Billions must fuck and suck.

            • Geigh Science - 2 years ago

              yoooo sign me up

              yoooo sign me up

            • Nukegirl - 3 years ago

              "Billions must die"? More like "billions must be exposed to some of the worst memes mankind has ever invented".

              "Billions must die"? More like "billions must be exposed to some of the worst memes mankind has ever invented".

              • Pedr01gb - 2 years ago

                True…

                True…

                • Matsuo_kun - 2 years ago

                  Billions will want to die after seeing these.

                  Billions will want to die after seeing these.

                  • some person - 3 years ago

                    no

                    no

                  • @RobotWaifuForU - 3 years ago

                    Literally me

                    Literally me

                    • tongyman - 2 years ago

                      least deranged white guy

                      least deranged white guy

                      • Kenetic Kups - 3 years ago

                        Yes, we know

                        Yes, we know

                    • basaro - 3 years ago

                      I normally enjoy edgy humor but holy shit, this is just fucking sad

                      I normally enjoy edgy humor but holy shit, this is just fucking sad

                      • Kenetic Kups - 3 years ago

                        I used to enjoy edgy humour before most of it was just genuine views

                        I used to enjoy edgy humour before most of it was just genuine views

                      • Myth - 3 years ago

                        https://twitter.com/ThatOneDude05/status/1612864428458016770

                        https://twitter.com/ThatOneDude05/status/1612864428458016770

                        • Maybe social media wasn't a good idea.

                          Maybe social media wasn't a good idea.

                          • AkaeruKun - 3 years ago

                            Always has been?

                            Always has been?

                          • So it's example 8675309 of awful people jacking it to the Turner Diaries?

                            So it's example 8675309 of awful people jacking it to the Turner Diaries?

                            • Timey16 - 3 years ago

                              Related I guess. News love to spread fear. That makes money, so good stuff usually goes under-reported.

                              Related I guess. News love to spread fear. That makes money, so good stuff usually goes under-reported.

                              • DatFeelix64 - 3 years ago

                                It's incredible how a MAD article from the 60s is somehow more relevant now than it ever was.

                                It's incredible how a MAD article from the 60s is somehow more relevant now than it ever was.

                                • Refined Valley Dude - 3 years ago

                                  Not really, this is describing a person that doesn't exist.

                                  Not really, this is describing a person that doesn't exist.

                                  • jruge - 3 years ago

                                    There are people who identify with political groups that are supposed to be really patriotic and then do the above.

                                    There are people who identify with political groups that are supposed to be really patriotic and then do the above.

                                    • berzel - 3 years ago

                                      There are no groups that exist that hate 93% of the population save for trans extremist groups since trans people are 1% of 1% of the population.

                                      There are no groups that exist that hate 93% of the population save for trans extremist groups since trans people are 1% of 1% of the population.

                                      • ENTY_P - 2 years ago

                                        source

                                        source

                                      • basaro - 3 years ago

                                        yeah, that's called ultranationalists and jingoists. nothing to do with regular nationalists and patriots because genuine nationalists and patriots will respect other people's nationality while ultranationalists and jingoists don't

                                        yeah, that's called ultranationalists and jingoists. nothing to do with regular nationalists and patriots because genuine nationalists and patriots will respect other people's nationality while ultranationalists and jingoists don't

                                  • No!! - 3 years ago

                                    "The west has fallen, billions must die"

                                    The obesity problem isnt THAT bad

                                    "The west has fallen, billions must die"

                                    The obesity problem isnt THAT bad

                                    • Chewybunny - 3 years ago

                                      I like to tell these kinds of people that it's not a Great Replacement, it's a Great Filter, and what it's filtering is inferior genes like yours.

                                      I like to tell these kinds of people that it's not a Great Replacement, it's a Great Filter, and what it's filtering is inferior genes like yours.

                                      • Ten Shadows - 3 years ago

                                        I'd like to add that that's not really what Great Filter is, but I don't suppose these people would understand anyway.

                                        I'd like to add that that's not really what Great Filter is, but I don't suppose these people would understand anyway.

                                      • Koridai has fallen. YOU must die.

                                        Koridai has fallen. YOU must die.

                                        • MinionLover6969 - 3 years ago

                                          • Pokejoseph64 - 3 years ago

                                            Jokes on you Ganon! I got the Book of Koridai!

                                            Jokes on you Ganon! I got the Book of Koridai!

                                            • Kenetic Kups - 3 years ago

                                              No!
                                              Not into the pit!
                                              IT BURNS!

                                              No!
                                              Not into the pit!
                                              IT BURNS!

                                        • DirkDiggums - 3 years ago

                                          It's really ironic that these people want a totalitarian police state that will supposedly leave "white" people alone while killing and deporting all the "brown" people. Do these people really think a dictatorship will leave them alone just because they're "white" and Christian? What if they decide that Catholics can be killed off or vice versa with another denomination? Did we not learn anything from the 20th century killing fields of Nazism and Communism?

                                          It's really ironic that these people want a totalitarian police state that will supposedly leave "white" people alone while killing and deporting all the "brown" people. Do these people really think a dictatorship will leave them alone just because they're "white" and Christian? What if they decide that Catholics can be killed off or vice versa with another denomination? Did we not learn anything from the 20th century killing fields of Nazism and Communism?

                                          • Nox Lucis - 3 years ago

                                            "No, no. You see, I'M supposed to be the one holding the gun in the killing fields this time!"

                                            "No, no. You see, I'M supposed to be the one holding the gun in the killing fields this time!"

                                          • thebigguy123 - 3 years ago

                                            Imagine backing genocidal tyrants out of sexual frustration.

                                            Imagine backing genocidal tyrants out of sexual frustration.

                                            • Red123 - 3 years ago

                                              • Kenetic Kups - 3 years ago

                                                “REEEEEEEEE KILL EVERYONE NOT FROM MY HOMETOWN WHO DOESN’t ACTS LIKE THE ARCHETYPE OF TRADITION ALSO IGNORE THE FACT I DON’T FIT THE BILL”

                                                “REEEEEEEEE KILL EVERYONE NOT FROM MY HOMETOWN WHO DOESN’t ACTS LIKE THE ARCHETYPE OF TRADITION ALSO IGNORE THE FACT I DON’T FIT THE BILL”

                                                • Timey16 - 3 years ago

                                                  OK.

                                                  How about you start with yourself?

                                                  OK.

                                                  How about you start with yourself?

                                                  • Greyblades - 3 years ago

                                                    I read the original "Billions must die" not as a call to action but as what they accuse the WEF of desiring.

                                                    Which makes it all the more weird that it apparently turned into one.

                                                    I read the original "Billions must die" not as a call to action but as what they accuse the WEF of desiring.

                                                    Which makes it all the more weird that it apparently turned into one.

                                                  • BravelyDefect - 3 years ago

                                                    I find nihilism like this to be so lazy. People who are conscientious enough to perceive sustainability issues but not creative enough to imagine solutions that don't involve wiping out half of Earth's population.

                                                    I find nihilism like this to be so lazy. People who are conscientious enough to perceive sustainability issues but not creative enough to imagine solutions that don't involve wiping out half of Earth's population.

                                                    • tongyman - 2 years ago

                                                      Thats the mentality of the whites

                                                      Thats the mentality of the whites

                                                      • TARINunit9 - 3 years ago

                                                        "The cruelty is the point". It's presented as a soyjack strawman but the mentality is sadly very real. Real enough to write the Turner Diaries, a sect of literal nazis so ridiculously lost in hatred they present the annihilation of 90% of the world's population including most of the white people in nuclear hellfire as a happy ending, solely because it means the destruction of black people.

                                                        It's what fascism is: violent hypocritical authoritarianism. And the violence is a key component

                                                        "The cruelty is the point". It's presented as a soyjack strawman but the mentality is sadly very real. Real enough to write the Turner Diaries, a sect of literal nazis so ridiculously lost in hatred they present the annihilation of 90% of the world's population including most of the white people in nuclear hellfire as a happy ending, solely because it means the destruction of black people.

                                                        It's what fascism is: violent hypocritical authoritarianism. And the violence is a key component

                                                        • Ten Shadows - 3 years ago

                                                          Seriously. It'd only take wiping out 1% of Earth's population to solve everything, provided you picked the correct lot.

                                                          I'm not suggesting or condoning anything. I'm just saying.

                                                          Seriously. It'd only take wiping out 1% of Earth's population to solve everything, provided you picked the correct lot.

                                                          I'm not suggesting or condoning anything. I'm just saying.

                                                          • Set - 3 years ago

                                                            Just saying what, exactly? Go on, who's your "correct lot"?

                                                            Just saying what, exactly? Go on, who's your "correct lot"?

                                                            • Ten Shadows - 3 years ago

                                                              It was a joke. If you don't get it, I'm not going to start explaining it any more. I'd just end up looking like I took it seriously.

                                                              Basically what Outcast Redeemer said.

                                                              (I really thought someone here would at least know what I was talking about. It doesn't need that much overanalyzing, you just need to remember a certain social movement.)

                                                              It was a joke. If you don't get it, I'm not going to start explaining it any more. I'd just end up looking like I took it seriously.

                                                              Basically what Outcast Redeemer said.

                                                              (I really thought someone here would at least know what I was talking about. It doesn't need that much overanalyzing, you just need to remember a certain social movement.)

                                                              • ENTY_P - 2 years ago

                                                                The joke didn't land my guy

                                                                The joke didn't land my guy

                                                            • Kenetic Kups - 3 years ago

                                                              Eh I’d say more than 1% are exploiters/slavers murderers, or sexual criminals

                                                              Eh I’d say more than 1% are exploiters/slavers murderers, or sexual criminals

                                                              • BravelyDefect - 3 years ago

                                                                Depopulation doesn't solve any sustainability issues, it only kicks the can further down the road.

                                                                Depopulation doesn't solve any sustainability issues, it only kicks the can further down the road.

                                                                • Outcast Redeemer - 3 years ago

                                                                  Its not about sustainability. Its about stability. Everyone has the group of 1% of people in their heads that if they just left the world would be a better place simply due to them not fucking it up for the rest of the population. That's why its a bad idea. That list people have in their heads doesn't shrink. It grows.

                                                                  Its not about sustainability. Its about stability. Everyone has the group of 1% of people in their heads that if they just left the world would be a better place simply due to them not fucking it up for the rest of the population. That's why its a bad idea. That list people have in their heads doesn't shrink. It grows.

                                                            • DerpyHooves223 - 3 years ago

                                                              ITS DA JOOS!!!!

                                                              ITS DA JOOS!!!!

                                                              • Masterblader158 - 3 years ago

                                                                If we want the west to fall for real, and not the often meme retarded way of it falling by having non-whites, da guys and Liberal progress exist, we would have to give these guys power….but that requires them leaving their house like they leave their bloody containment board, why must they ruin so many threads.

                                                                If we want the west to fall for real, and not the often meme retarded way of it falling by having non-whites, da guys and Liberal progress exist, we would have to give these guys power….but that requires them leaving their house like they leave their bloody containment board, why must they ruin so many threads.

                                                                • polandgod75 - 3 years ago

                                                                  Don't tell these race weirdos that even Africa will soon have population declines. Heck india and banglasdesh fertility rate when from 6 to 2 in a generation

                                                                  Don't tell these race weirdos that even Africa will soon have population declines. Heck india and banglasdesh fertility rate when from 6 to 2 in a generation

                                                                  • Timey16 - 3 years ago

                                                                    Also look at News in Africa… they are talking about "normal stuff" you'd expect from a functioning nation… like enabling internet access to more remote nations, how to handle unemployment and unemployment benefits, how to deal with healthcare and retirement, etc.

                                                                    Most of the time they aren't bothered by militia- or civil-warfare or extreme poverty anymore. The extremely unstable parts of Africa are getting smaller and smaller.

                                                                    Africa is also transitioning into getting out of just exporting raw resources and rather to process and manufacture domestically and then export finished products, but this transition will take many decades. But many African students that studied in Europe and America are now returning and helping to build up the local economies.

                                                                    Literacy is also improving. At least for young generations born now you can be decently sure they are at least able to read and write. Africa's literacy rate is now at 66%, with about 0.5% more literacy per year.

                                                                    It's not a hyperboom like China was, but it's a steady climb up, with a few setbacks along the way. But overall 2 steps forward for every step back.

                                                                    Also look at News in Africa… they are talking about "normal stuff" you'd expect from a functioning nation… like enabling internet access to more remote nations, how to handle unemployment and unemployment benefits, how to deal with healthcare and retirement, etc.

                                                                    Most of the time they aren't bothered by militia- or civil-warfare or extreme poverty anymore. The extremely unstable parts of Africa are getting smaller and smaller.

                                                                    Africa is also transitioning into getting out of just exporting raw resources and rather to process and manufacture domestically and then export finished products, but this transition will take many decades. But many African students that studied in Europe and America are now returning and helping to build up the local economies.

                                                                    Literacy is also improving. At least for young generations born now you can be decently sure they are at least able to read and write. Africa's literacy rate is now at 66%, with about 0.5% more literacy per year.

                                                                    It's not a hyperboom like China was, but it's a steady climb up, with a few setbacks along the way. But overall 2 steps forward for every step back.

                                                                    • qx1511 - 3 years ago

                                                                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Africa still have some screwed-up borders because they were slapped down by colonial powers through tribal lines and stuff, therefore still providing a source of instability? How's the situation looking in places like Ethiopia and the Congo (latter probably being where the stereotype of a war-torn Africa came from)? How's their food security situation?

                                                                      Overall though, it does seem there are plenty of nations in Africa on the up-and-up. Kenya I think it's growing, Botswana runs a pretty tight ship, and I've heard something about Morocco starting to take off especially with US investment (they're our oldest ally after all).

                                                                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Africa still have some screwed-up borders because they were slapped down by colonial powers through tribal lines and stuff, therefore still providing a source of instability? How's the situation looking in places like Ethiopia and the Congo (latter probably being where the stereotype of a war-torn Africa came from)? How's their food security situation?

                                                                      Overall though, it does seem there are plenty of nations in Africa on the up-and-up. Kenya I think it's growing, Botswana runs a pretty tight ship, and I've heard something about Morocco starting to take off especially with US investment (they're our oldest ally after all).

                                                                      • Timey16 - 3 years ago

                                                                        They do. But in terms of polls when asked "what do you identify more with, your country or your tribe?" The nation becomes ever more important than the tribe. Don't forget that in Europe too tribes were constantly divided because some lord owned half of their territory and a different lord from a different realm the other half. Until the invention of the nation states, languages flowed much more into one another via dialects rather than "people speak an entirely different language across the river". I.e. Low German > Platt > Dutch > Flemish > Waloon > Picard > Parisian (dialect that modern French is based on)

                                                                        Sadly I don't remember which country it was but there was an upset election because a long standing president was voted down. Why was it special? Because he represented the majority ethnic group. He never needed a platform since he won by default. But him losing meant that a ton of his people rather voted for a candidate with a superior political platform rather than tribal affiliation. It matters less and less.

                                                                        They do. But in terms of polls when asked "what do you identify more with, your country or your tribe?" The nation becomes ever more important than the tribe. Don't forget that in Europe too tribes were constantly divided because some lord owned half of their territory and a different lord from a different realm the other half. Until the invention of the nation states, languages flowed much more into one another via dialects rather than "people speak an entirely different language across the river". I.e. Low German > Platt > Dutch > Flemish > Waloon > Picard > Parisian (dialect that modern French is based on)

                                                                        Sadly I don't remember which country it was but there was an upset election because a long standing president was voted down. Why was it special? Because he represented the majority ethnic group. He never needed a platform since he won by default. But him losing meant that a ton of his people rather voted for a candidate with a superior political platform rather than tribal affiliation. It matters less and less.

                                                                        • Outcast Redeemer - 3 years ago

                                                                          Those areas tend to be central Africa. A place that still a hot bed of instability due to it being geographically isolated. The rest of the continent has spent a lot of time focusing on national identity over ethnic identity and was able to achieve that due to their territory being easier to control even when they had no resources or industry.

                                                                          Those areas tend to be central Africa. A place that still a hot bed of instability due to it being geographically isolated. The rest of the continent has spent a lot of time focusing on national identity over ethnic identity and was able to achieve that due to their territory being easier to control even when they had no resources or industry.

                                                                          • Wilm210 - 3 years ago

                                                                            Indeed, the Scramble for Africa & Sykes-Picot agreement by defunct European empires, carved up the African continent & Middle-East over a century ago. I wouldn't say everything, but a considerable amount of border instability and ethnic violence from the 20th century to now can be chalked up to this glaring fuck-up by long dead European expansionists.

                                                                            Indeed, the Scramble for Africa & Sykes-Picot agreement by defunct European empires, carved up the African continent & Middle-East over a century ago. I wouldn't say everything, but a considerable amount of border instability and ethnic violence from the 20th century to now can be chalked up to this glaring fuck-up by long dead European expansionists.

                                                                          • polandgod75 - 3 years ago

                                                                            Speaking of which, It's actually nice to see africa be more stable and not be drag into conflict after conflict. Granted many africa states need to deal with dictatorship and corrupt governments, but still. Let hope for more stability and peace.

                                                                            I can't help but think when people look back in africa during 1960s to 2010s as the same way Mediterranean experience during the fall of the western Rome empire.

                                                                            Speaking of which, It's actually nice to see africa be more stable and not be drag into conflict after conflict. Granted many africa states need to deal with dictatorship and corrupt governments, but still. Let hope for more stability and peace.

                                                                            I can't help but think when people look back in africa during 1960s to 2010s as the same way Mediterranean experience during the fall of the western Rome empire.

                                                                        • DavidM - 3 years ago

                                                                          I like how fucking dramatic the "Billions must die" part always is … its like something a cartoon villian would say while giving their speech on how to make the world a better place.

                                                                          I like how fucking dramatic the "Billions must die" part always is … its like something a cartoon villian would say while giving their speech on how to make the world a better place.

                                                                          • MPHJ - 3 years ago

                                                                            What's even better here is that it's both something attributed to Klaus Schwab (whom /pol/ hates) AND to /pol/ users themselves.

                                                                            What's even better here is that it's both something attributed to Klaus Schwab (whom /pol/ hates) AND to /pol/ users themselves.

                                                                            • ghost of aerie - 3 years ago

                                                                              It's more then just /pol/ the man has a very strange habit of dressing like a bond villain and green-lighting things that makes it look like he took the the old saying "dress for the job you want" seriously.

                                                                              It's more then just /pol/ the man has a very strange habit of dressing like a bond villain and green-lighting things that makes it look like he took the the old saying "dress for the job you want" seriously.

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                                                                            • Your Uncle Yonkers - 3 years ago

                                                                              >Thinking if a fascist state takes over and starts killing off people it stops at people with a darker skin pigment

                                                                              Judging purely based on how much free time some of these people have to look at pol they probably work a low skill low wage job, if they work at all. Thinking your pecking order in the social hierarchy of a fascist state is going to be better then your life now is laughable.

                                                                              If a goverment is willing to kill billions of people based on skin pigment what makes you think they wont gas your worthless ass if you start getting uppity in the coal mines after your 14 hour shift?

                                                                              Also thinking because you're safe because you're one of the "White people" is like saying Dark souls and Final Fantasy 7 have the same exact gameplay because they are both RPGs. Europeans for most of history hated each other. Hitler thought Slavic people were just as impure as Jews. Then even if you're still "one of the good ones" its only a matter of time before they kill off the other, then need to come up with new boogie man.

                                                                              You don't even need to make a moral argument with these people (Its not like a person calling for the death of billions cares about morals anyway). Middle and low class/income people begging for hyper authoritarianism is one of the most insanely brain dead takes. Its the political equivalent of sticking a fork in a light socket expecting to pull out spaghetti.

                                                                              >Thinking if a fascist state takes over and starts killing off people it stops at people with a darker skin pigment

                                                                              Judging purely based on how much free time some of these people have to look at pol they probably work a low skill low wage job, if they work at all. Thinking your pecking order in the social hierarchy of a fascist state is going to be better then your life now is laughable.

                                                                              If a goverment is willing to kill billions of people based on skin pigment what makes you think they wont gas your worthless ass if you start getting uppity in the coal mines after your 14 hour shift?

                                                                              Also thinking because you're safe because you're one of the "White people" is like saying Dark souls and Final Fantasy 7 have the same exact gameplay because they are both RPGs. Europeans for most of history hated each other. Hitler thought Slavic people were just as impure as Jews. Then even if you're still "one of the good ones" its only a matter of time before they kill off the other, then need to come up with new boogie man.

                                                                              You don't even need to make a moral argument with these people (Its not like a person calling for the death of billions cares about morals anyway). Middle and low class/income people begging for hyper authoritarianism is one of the most insanely brain dead takes. Its the political equivalent of sticking a fork in a light socket expecting to pull out spaghetti.

                                                                              • MinionLover6969 - 3 years ago

                                                                                I won't be sent to the mines. I will be a party loyalist and join the secret police.

                                                                                I won't be sent to the mines. I will be a party loyalist and join the secret police.

                                                                                • berzel - 3 years ago

                                                                                  >Judging purely based on how much free time some of these people have to look at pol they probably work a low skill low wage job, if they work at all. Thinking your pecking order in the social hierarchy of a fascist state is going to be better then your life now is laughable.

                                                                                  That's why they are socialists, anon.

                                                                                  >Judging purely based on how much free time some of these people have to look at pol they probably work a low skill low wage job, if they work at all. Thinking your pecking order in the social hierarchy of a fascist state is going to be better then your life now is laughable.

                                                                                  That's why they are socialists, anon.

                                                                                  • basaro - 3 years ago

                                                                                    Good take

                                                                                    Good take

                                                                                    • Refined Valley Dude - 3 years ago

                                                                                      I don't think they're being serious.

                                                                                      I don't think they're being serious.

                                                                                      • Matsuo_kun - 3 years ago

                                                                                        "What do you mean, 'killing all the minorities doesn't magically solve our problems'?!"

                                                                                        "What do you mean, 'killing all the minorities doesn't magically solve our problems'?!"

                                                                                        • Gumshoe - 3 years ago

                                                                                          I guess if you assume you're the one leading the fascist revolution then you probably will end up on top. It wasn't like the early Nazis who became its leaders were all ubermensches or anything themselves. Rules in fascism are usually not based on consistent principles or anything, it's based on whatever is helpful to the people at the top.

                                                                                          I guess if you assume you're the one leading the fascist revolution then you probably will end up on top. It wasn't like the early Nazis who became its leaders were all ubermensches or anything themselves. Rules in fascism are usually not based on consistent principles or anything, it's based on whatever is helpful to the people at the top.

                                                                                          • femboybassdropping - 3 years ago

                                                                                            somewhere in the afterlife integralists smirk smugly

                                                                                            somewhere in the afterlife integralists smirk smugly

                                                                                            • Timey16 - 3 years ago

                                                                                              Hell, Nazis "respected" Africans more for the "subservient nature" than they did Slavs. (Really, for Northern Africans working under French, Germans or Britains was all the same, just equally racist to them).

                                                                                              So these fucks may be the ones getting gassed BEFORE black people are.

                                                                                              Hell, Nazis "respected" Africans more for the "subservient nature" than they did Slavs. (Really, for Northern Africans working under French, Germans or Britains was all the same, just equally racist to them).

                                                                                              So these fucks may be the ones getting gassed BEFORE black people are.

                                                                                              • Why would Middle and low class/income people want authoritarianism anyway? I'd sooner expect rich assholes wanting that more than Joe Shmoe.

                                                                                                Why would Middle and low class/income people want authoritarianism anyway? I'd sooner expect rich assholes wanting that more than Joe Shmoe.

                                                                                                • mandrac - 3 years ago

                                                                                                  You'll note that people from poor and/or rural background who would benefit most from a social welfare system tend to vote right where as people from cities and/or midle to low upper class tend to vote left. And this doesn't apply just to the US this happen everywhere.
                                                                                                  If you expect people to act logically boy do i have a scoop for you…

                                                                                                  You'll note that people from poor and/or rural background who would benefit most from a social welfare system tend to vote right where as people from cities and/or midle to low upper class tend to vote left. And this doesn't apply just to the US this happen everywhere.
                                                                                                  If you expect people to act logically boy do i have a scoop for you…

                                                                                                • Crits Madine - 3 years ago

                                                                                                  It's the "grass is always greener" mentality. These are the kind of people who feel they have no agency in their lives, through no fault of their own of course, and that in their dream authoritarian utopia all of their problems will be fixed and they will prosper. Unsurprisingly, most of these people are functionally terminally online NEETs whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

                                                                                                  Little do they know, like you pointed out, they'd be just another expendable asset who'd probably be liquidated in a purge, a war, an industrial accident, or a famine the second they stopped being an accident.

                                                                                                  Anybody who believes they should have the power to restrict your rights in the name of some imagined "better future" should be treated with suspicion and told to touch grass without mercy. I heard it's greener in person than online.

                                                                                                  It's the "grass is always greener" mentality. These are the kind of people who feel they have no agency in their lives, through no fault of their own of course, and that in their dream authoritarian utopia all of their problems will be fixed and they will prosper. Unsurprisingly, most of these people are functionally terminally online NEETs whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

                                                                                                  Little do they know, like you pointed out, they'd be just another expendable asset who'd probably be liquidated in a purge, a war, an industrial accident, or a famine the second they stopped being an accident.

                                                                                                  Anybody who believes they should have the power to restrict your rights in the name of some imagined "better future" should be treated with suspicion and told to touch grass without mercy. I heard it's greener in person than online.

                                                                                                  • Crits Madine - 3 years ago

                                                                                                    The second they stop being an "asset", not an accident. Though I bet their mothers would argue otherwise.

                                                                                                    The second they stop being an "asset", not an accident. Though I bet their mothers would argue otherwise.

                                                                                                  • polandgod75 - 3 years ago

                                                                                                    Remember Slavic and gaelic people were consider "non white" less then 100 years ago. Hell I would been seen as mixed race despite me being very light skin.

                                                                                                    Race extremist

                                                                                                    Also with lower classes I think it has to with "safety" and middle class I think it has to do how some "liberals/left wing" get angry that some of their ideals get challenge by real world experiences and go to the other side without any critical thinking/self reflection.

                                                                                                    example when a middle class or upper middle class said they care for the poor, but when deal with some poor assholes, they become very classist.

                                                                                                    Remember Slavic and gaelic people were consider "non white" less then 100 years ago. Hell I would been seen as mixed race despite me being very light skin.

                                                                                                    Race extremist

                                                                                                    Also with lower classes I think it has to with "safety" and middle class I think it has to do how some "liberals/left wing" get angry that some of their ideals get challenge by real world experiences and go to the other side without any critical thinking/self reflection.

                                                                                                    example when a middle class or upper middle class said they care for the poor, but when deal with some poor assholes, they become very classist.

                                                                                                    • qx1511 - 3 years ago

                                                                                                      It does seem that even if all the nonwhites were to just magically disappear tomorrow, these people would likely find something else to blame and come up with some bullshit reason to do so (something as small as how they hold table utensils for example).
                                                                                                      But honestly, I get the feeling that such a plan wouldn’t work out in the long run regardless. Say all the nonwhites go away, leaving the entire Planet to the whites. If they spread out across the globe again, you would likely have some people’s skin start to get darker again as some of them are gonna be living in areas that the sun shines more often

                                                                                                      It does seem that even if all the nonwhites were to just magically disappear tomorrow, these people would likely find something else to blame and come up with some bullshit reason to do so (something as small as how they hold table utensils for example).
                                                                                                      But honestly, I get the feeling that such a plan wouldn’t work out in the long run regardless. Say all the nonwhites go away, leaving the entire Planet to the whites. If they spread out across the globe again, you would likely have some people’s skin start to get darker again as some of them are gonna be living in areas that the sun shines more often

                                                                                                      • Pokejoseph64 - 3 years ago

                                                                                                        They ought to learn how to have lives

                                                                                                        They ought to learn how to have lives

                                                                                                        • Ten Shadows - 3 years ago

                                                                                                          Not our job to teach them, and they wouldn't listen us anyway. This is something they must find on their own.

                                                                                                          Not our job to teach them, and they wouldn't listen us anyway. This is something they must find on their own.

                                                                                                      • Whatthefuck123 - 3 years ago

                                                                                                        Just saw a wojak meme.
                                                                                                        KYM has fallen, hundreds must be banned.

                                                                                                        Just saw a wojak meme.
                                                                                                        KYM has fallen, hundreds must be banned.

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