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When did the "activist" game developer mindset start?
Most strange phenomena can be pinned down to a single date or title, such as the first game to feature a turrent section, or the first game to feature quick-time events (I'm glad those two features are gone). So, what was the first game where the developers had a "activist" mindset, where they didn't care about their customers at all and actively fought against them brazenly. When did this terrible, narcissistic mindset start, and what's the first game to be plagued by it?

I can pinpoint such a mindset with movies, with Ghostbusters 2016. That was the first movie I saw where the director, the actors, and even the studio funding it actively went against the customers and fought against them so openly. It was pretty weird, which made it satisfying when the movie flopped and it sequel was cancelled.

But what about games? What was the first game to be plagued with the "activist" mindset that ruined it?
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Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Seems like you can only make accusations like this without proof, then when asked to support your claim, you ghost the threads.
The evidence points to it being a prejudice against minorities.
Then you should be able to present this so called evidence, so go on, do it.
What the heck ?


I didn't even notice the opening posters NAME,


" They Live, We Sleep! "



-- lol, congratulations,


If you actually get to read my posts you'll realize who the 'Aliens' are in the movie --


the 'they' talked about throughout the answer,


yes, you can clearly see based on the 'real date' noted at the bottom.


"They" were the 'Atlanteans', who colonized various places on Earth (in history),

but gave them up, and started Egypt.

They became the 'Pharoahs' - and Serpent Priests.


'Those' people then transmorgified and became the Oligarchs and Royalty (and the 'Priest Class') of the Earth as we know it now.

The whole 'Oligarch' thing got put into the background (on purpose) and 'magically' almost all 'royalty' disappeared on Earth around what,

200 years ago?

They sacrificed the Romanovs and then 'disappeared',

they didn't actually disappear of course,

they transmorgified (what? haven't you gamers been paying attention to the amount of 'shape-shifters' who 'drink blood' and sacrfice you see all over the place in gaming?

(Well start paying better attention, lol))


into a group now known as the "-------"


Well, I'm in Canada, so can't say it.

Yep, I'm not allowed to use that word on the internetz.


That should probably tell you something?


Anyways, because they've been marrying their brothers and sisters for millenia they have very consanguinated genes,

so they're pretty easy to spot.


Anyways, it was the eventual evolution of Mankind -- the 'They' are the people awake and aware of how the Universe works,

unfortunately the masses 'sleep', most are blind and still living in Platos 'Cave'.


It's about evolving and reaching Apotheosis.


Those that do have a true 'Awakening' -- and truly know themselves and how the Universe works.


Those that don't stay 'asleep' and are easily guided (controled) by those that have.


There's a very important important line in that movie,


"We think you're just as ugly as you think us"


-- it's at 3:13 exactly,


--


This is a very important line,


because the real meaning behind it is --

'They' (who truly are 'alive' and have 'knowledge') 'see' the average person as an ignorant mess of selfishness,

foolishness, idolatory and monkey-behaviour.

A smart person knows 'looks' can be just as much psychological as 'physical'.

The 'elite' (Oligarchy, etc) 'see' the average person of the masses as a tangled mass of grotesque foolishness, ignorance, demented mindless behaviour.



The 'average' person (of the masses), however, 'sees' "them" as 'bad' when they see how much lying, deceiving and 'controling' they do.

(Starting and funding all the wars, inventing and spreading diseases, depopulating etc etc)


Hence the dual meaning of 'both sides seeing each other as ugly' -- both sides hate each other in terms of their general behaviour patterns.



The reality is that the 'They' are actually the 'good' ones, (lol),

because at least 'they' constantly give you wisdom, ('they' always give you all the 'answers' - if you have the eyes to see)


and the choice to choose (most of the time),

at any given time.


It's the masses that are constantly led by their selfish ignorant behaivour patterns,


the trick is can a person 'see' that and rise above it,

much like the opening poster seemed to have wanted to do.




how many people actually bothered reading my posts?


try to give people a truth they're not used to and not wanting to hear,

and this happens ----



(and yes, this is easily one of the most important scenes of any movie ever made -- because it shows how resistant people are to opening their 'mind' to something new they never considered before -- )


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Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Crashed:
The evidence points to it being a prejudice against minorities.
Then you should be able to present this so called evidence, so go on, do it.
The OP's posts have done a fair job of that.
Originally posted by Start_Running:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Then you should be able to present this so called evidence, so go on, do it.
The OP's posts have done a fair job of that.
I'm not the OP. Try again.
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Start_Running:
The OP's posts have done a fair job of that.
I'm not the OP. Try again.
You have a post https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/569290345532138118/?ctp=23#c569290861948497436 that shows prejudice and insults.
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Which only seems to matter when minorities are involved.
Seems like you can only make accusations like this without proof, then when asked to support your claim, you ghost the threads.
Games like AC. Where Ubisoft devs eventually wanted to have a female lead in Odessey because they wanted to try something new (not just always having a male lead for the 15th time). The Ubi executives said "No, female leads don't sell as well, put a male lead in it."

Dinosaur Planet was originally going to have a female lead too before they went with Fox because he'd sell more. Publishers often reject games because the studios want a female lead or demand they change the lead to a man if they want the deal. Developers say that all the time. Many publishers passed on Life is Strange because they didn't want to fund a game with a female lead despite the fact the game went on to be profitable. They had to shop through a ton of publishers until they found Square and they were the only ones who would agree to not forcing the protag to be a man.

Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Crashed:
The evidence points to it being a prejudice against minorities.
Then you should be able to present this so called evidence, so go on, do it.
What, statistically 80% of protaganists in games were white men back then. Maybe even more? Even now, the statistics are something like 50%, despite white men not making up that much of the market. They're still slightly over-represented in games media to this day despite people's claims of DEI replacing them.
Originally posted by Soren:
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In 2025, women were estimated to make up 50.5% of the US population, making them the majority, rather than a minority.
Originally posted by ShadowStrike:
I dont think so, "grifters" as you say is more like promoting wokeness. Conservatives has been around way before all this nonsense to begin with. Hell, even Youtube hasn't existed when conservatives were around.

Back in the day, the wealthy brought in workers from overseas to build the US railroads, and when the economy went bad, they blamed said workers for it. The grift of scapegoating convenient targets is one of the oldest grifts in human history. It's what made the 2nd iteration of the KKK into a glorified pyramid scheme. Bigotry has always made for easy marks because fear and hatred make people irrational.

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:
It is not "buzzwords" as you claim. The true "bogeymen" is to normalize DEI and wokeness. Gaming companies were fine with conservative gaming and methods. The nonsense didn't start until appox. 2014 which lasted until 2024. I dont think you really understood what you're talking about.

A "bogeyman" is an imaginary fear. It's not real.

Consider: the general claim is "go woke, go broke." That "woke and DEI" will always fail. How can it simultaneously be a worthless pursuit that would bankrupt the entire industry, yet is simultaneously a conspiracy that is somehow strong enough to keep ruining media year after year? How can an enemy be both weak and strong at the same time?

If "woke" was so bad and doomed to failure, why is it still here? Why can't it be defeated? Why has nothing been done about it? Seems to me like it exists solely to provide an excuse to complain because it's that fabricated sense of victimhood that's the real goal. What would the grifters sell you without a target to be mad at?
Originally posted by MekaDovah:
Originally posted by ShadowStrike:
I dont think so, "grifters" as you say is more like promoting wokeness. Conservatives has been around way before all this nonsense to begin with. Hell, even Youtube hasn't existed when conservatives were around.

(LOL)

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:
It is not "buzzwords" as you claim. The true "bogeymen" is to normalize DEI and wokeness. Gaming companies were fine with conservative gaming and methods. The nonsense didn't start until appox. 2014 which lasted until 2024. I dont think you really understood what you're talking about.

(nonsense)

Funny, you describe exactly what the democrats are. Perhaps that target you're going after was a wrong target afterall. Nice cope of your own prejudices.
Originally posted by MekaDovah:
How can an enemy be both weak and strong at the same time?
Ideology.
Originally posted by ShadowStrike:
Originally posted by MekaDovah:

(LOL)



(nonsense)

Funny, you describe exactly what the democrats are. Perhaps that target you're going after was a wrong target afterall. Nice cope of your own prejudices.

*Cough* Mecah is actually leftwing mind set *cough*

He supports democrats. The most left wing of all.

Then again...THEY ALL are in a way in DC. Not a SINGLE ONE really will acknowledge God's Existence.

The ones who actually LEFT DC and are now fighting for the people now, however, DO acknowledge his existence and are TRUE RIGHT WING...

This is as you know, is the truth Shadow. Which he won't admit to...
Back in 2008 when Steve Bannon, the then CEO of IGE got banned from WoW for farming gold and selling it for real money. He saw the power of nerd rage when Asmongold, Church, and other WoW players got together in solidarity to have his operation shut down. So Bannon got with Bobby Kotick and Jeffery Epstein to devise a plan to use gaming as a platform to convert nerds into white supremacy through inserting identity politics into everything. Also Bannon used the "flooding the zone" strategy with Breibart who flipped from games being childish to "Look at what they took from gamers" overnight. All of which was a test run for dismantling a government from within via discourse over wedge issues. None of the above actually had zero to do with gaming because all parties involve don't care about videogames. But now 16 years later, gamers still carry that torch, crying over something they never lost that was inherently never exclusive to them to begin with.
Originally posted by Sol-Blackguy:
Back in 2008 when Steve Bannon, the then CEO of IGE got banned from WoW for farming gold and selling it for real money. He saw the power of nerd rage when Asmongold, Church, and other WoW players got together in solidarity to have his operation shut down. So Bannon got with Bobby Kotick and Jeffery Epstein to devise a plan to use gaming as a platform to convert nerds into white supremacy through inserting identity politics into everything. Also Bannon used the "flooding the zone" strategy with Breibart who flipped from games being childish to "Look at what they took from gamers" overnight. All of which was a test run for dismantling a government from within via discourse over wedge issues. None of the above actually had zero to do with gaming because all parties involve don't care about videogames. But now 16 years later, gamers still carry that torch, crying over something they never lost that was inherently never exclusive to them to begin with.

This is why no one should take ANYTHING these "Influencers" say with a grain.

And also, don't give them YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. If they can't earn a living THE RIGHT WAY, then they don't deserve Super Chats, etc. from us.

The whole DEI Culture War is a Psyop and used to make easy money by Grifting, which is a Satanic Cult Creation...

EDIT: And a lot of these Influencers have sponsors that are also linked to the ESG/DEI.

Only ones anyone should ACTUALLY trust, are ones that: A) Do not take sponsors, and/or B) Call out all of the bs.

And one good YTer to follow who literally Checks BOTH of those off, is Louis Rossman, a known UNPLUGGED Human Being who continues to do GOD's work and ruin the corpos control...
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Soren:
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In 2025, women were estimated to make up 50.5% of the US population, making them the majority, rather than a minority.
Semantics.
"In sociology, women are classified as a minority group. This classification is based on power and access to resources rather than sheer population size. Because they historically face systemic inequalities in wealth, political representation, and social status, sociologists define women as a subordinate group."

Besides, you wanted proof. You got it on two levels. One being developers saying pitches were sometimes rejected because female leads. The other being the broader statistical data backing up there less female leads despite them making up roughly 50% of the population. Seems it's a fact companies did this back then and no one had a problem with it. They didn't have a problem with these mandates until they became more equal ironically enough.
I love how every rebutal to concerns over DEI becomes an argument of people being biggots, ists and phobes with no real evidence of this. :steambored:
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