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When did the "activist" game developer mindset start?
Most strange phenomena can be pinned down to a single date or title, such as the first game to feature a turrent section, or the first game to feature quick-time events (I'm glad those two features are gone). So, what was the first game where the developers had a "activist" mindset, where they didn't care about their customers at all and actively fought against them brazenly. When did this terrible, narcissistic mindset start, and what's the first game to be plagued by it?

I can pinpoint such a mindset with movies, with Ghostbusters 2016. That was the first movie I saw where the director, the actors, and even the studio funding it actively went against the customers and fought against them so openly. It was pretty weird, which made it satisfying when the movie flopped and it sequel was cancelled.

But what about games? What was the first game to be plagued with the "activist" mindset that ruined it?
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D. Flame
28 Jun @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Y'all got the memories of a gold fish. Even black females characters are getting beat with the ugly stick. We already discussed this multiple time.

You're just desperate to make it a race thing because you know that you lost on the facts, but minority characters are catching the hits too.
Sorry bub, but I'm not the one making it race thing. Let me rephrase to make it clearer for you:

Is it the one where Big Macho Buff Dude and Big Breasted Vapid Girl aren't the de facto characters in games any more, and we are actually getting different types and looks for characters? I would say that's a good pattern to have.
There was actually more diversity before the woke activist basically started forcing devs to follow a check list, especially in fighting games.

Originally posted by BJWyler:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
And something like one out every three western devs getting laid off over the last two years.
You act like routine layoffs haven't been routine in this industry for four decades. News flash, this ain't nothin new.
You are lying to yourself if you think that laying off a third of the industry is anywhere near normal.
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BJWyler
28 Jun @ 4:16pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Sorry bub, but I'm not the one making it race thing. Let me rephrase to make it clearer for you:

Is it the one where Big Macho Buff Dude and Big Breasted Vapid Girl aren't the de facto characters in games any more, and we are actually getting different types and looks for characters? I would say that's a good pattern to have.
There was actually more diversity before the woke activist basically started forcing devs to follow a check list, especially in fighting games.
Except in terms of "beauty," right?

Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
You act like routine layoffs haven't been routine in this industry for four decades. News flash, this ain't nothin new.
You are lying to yourself if you think that laying off a third of the industry is anywhere near normal.
You act like "uglification" of characters and DEI is why it's happened over the last two years. News flash - it ain't.
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D. Flame
28 Jun @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by BJWyler:
You act like "uglification" of characters and DEI is why it's happened over the last two years. News flash - it ain't.
Prove it.
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Crashed
28 Jun @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
You act like "uglification" of characters and DEI is why it's happened over the last two years. News flash - it ain't.
Prove it.
Does your "uglification" mean that they are no longer being hyper-sexualized?
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Blunt Raps
28 Jun @ 4:33pm 
Idk what the 1st game was, but major studios all started pushing it after that anita sarkeesian fraud started making grift videos.

"Ermahgerd, hitman had a level in a strip club once, and you could kill a stripper. Ermahferkingerd!"
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BJWyler
28 Jun @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
You act like "uglification" of characters and DEI is why it's happened over the last two years. News flash - it ain't.
Prove it.
The same AI you used to look up your stat, mate. You should have kept reading beyond the 30%.
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D. Flame
28 Jun @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Prove it.
Does your "uglification" mean that they are no longer being hyper-sexualized?
It includes things like doing a face scan of a real actress, then modifying their face to make them less attractive objectively various ways.
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Underprivileged White Male
28 Jun @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Prove it.
Does your "uglification" mean that they are no longer being hyper-sexualized?

Human beauty serves one purpose. And that purpose is "Would I pay to ♥♥♥♥ it?"
Anything else is just some pretend gobbledygook.

Just like real life the more hypersexualized she is, the more I'd pay for her. Not a hard concept.
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captainwiseass
28 Jun @ 5:08pm 
Dante Alighieri wrote The Divine Comedy in the 14th century. And he was far from the first person to put his politics into his art.

If we're still talking timelines.
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Satoru
28 Jun @ 5:24pm 
People like the OP basically watch Gundam and only see giant robots, and watch Godzilla and ignore the anti-war anti-nuclear messaging
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Crashed
28 Jun @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
less attractive objectively various ways.
That's very vague.
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Doctor Zalgo
28 Jun @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Crashed:
Does your "uglification" mean that they are no longer being hyper-sexualized?
It includes things like doing a face scan of a real actress, then modifying their face to make them less attractive objectively various ways.

And removing their 'vagina bones'?:
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D. Flame
28 Jun @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
less attractive objectively various ways.
That's very vague.
No, it's not.
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Crashed
28 Jun @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Crashed:
That's very vague.
No, it's not.
Maybe not if I was in your little community, but you'd have to elaborate your opinions.
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D. Flame
28 Jun @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
No, it's not.
Maybe not if I was in your little community, but you'd have to elaborate your opinions.
If you don't know without being spoonfed, then you are not informed enough on the subject matter to be able to meaningfully contribute to the conversation.

Have a nice day.
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