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What I find most interesting about reincarnation is not so much the moral accounting part, but the possibility that the world you reincarnate into might be completely different from this one.
If reincarnation is real, why assume it only happens inside our current human society on this specific planet? In principle, you could be reborn as a totally different kind of alien on a totally different planet, like a microbe on a planet around Alpha Centauri A if such life exists. Or you could reincarnate into a parallel world that looks more like fantasy, where magic actually exists. In a sense, even ideas like heaven and hell can be seen as “other worlds” that you might reincarnate into. Maybe you could even be reborn in the distant past or far future, not only in a linear timeline after your current life.
If you have heard of “The Egg” theory, it goes even further. In that story, every living thing that has ever existed and ever will exist is actually just another version of “me.” I reincarnate into each and every life, one by one, experiencing all of them. Only after I have lived all lives do I become something like a god. If we put aside whether reincarnation is literally true or not, I think there is a lot to unpack in that kind of idea.
Where I disagree with you, though, is the idea of death and the afterlife as a kind of moral courtroom, where suffering or blessings are basically rewards and punishments for what we did before. That rests on a hidden assumption that the world is fundamentally fair. In psychology this is sometimes called the “just-world hypothesis” belief. It is the mindset behind phrases like “if you do bad things, you will be punished,” “justice always wins,” “if you work hard you will be rewarded,” or “those who believe will be saved.” It lets people feel that the future is predictable and that they can control their destiny if they behave in the “right” way.
The problem is what happens when a strong believer in a just world runs into a brutal reality that contradicts this belief, like an obviously innocent person suffering terribly. Instead of saying “maybe the world is not fair,” they often try to protect their belief by blaming the victim in some hidden way. They think “there must be some reason that person deserved it,” or “maybe in a previous life they did something that justifies this.” On the surface that sounds like a spiritual explanation, but it is also a way of refusing to admit that reality itself can be arbitrary and cruel.
In practice, most of what happens in this world is random and accidental. The fact that our universe even exists at all may be the result of an extremely improbable quantum fluctuation over unimaginably long times (probably over 10^10^10). Morality, as we talk about it, is something humans invented to live together in groups. It is not something the universe is obligated to enforce for us.
So in real life, people who do terrible things do not always end up miserable, and people who do kind and generous things do not always end up happy. Sometimes the worst people live comfortable lives and die peacefully. Sometimes the best people suffer for no good reason and never “get paid back” for what they did.
You are free to believe in reincarnation if it gives you meaning or motivation, and I actually like thinking about reincarnation as a way to explore different possible worlds. But I am against the idea that every victim’s suffering must be a deserved punishment from some invisible moral system. That way of thinking can easily turn into a way of blaming people who are already unlucky, instead of simply accepting that the universe is not built around our sense of justice.
| Number | Old Japanese | Modern Equivalent | Surviving Examples or Meanings |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | hitotu | one | in “hitotsu”, “hitori” |
| 2 | futatu | two | in “futatsu”, “futari” |
| 3 | mitu | three | in “mittsu”, “mikka” |
| 4 | yotu | four | in “yottsu”, “yomo (four directions)” |
| 5 | itutu | five | in “itsutsu”, “itsuka” |
| 6 | mutu | six | in “muttsu”, “muika” |
| 7 | nanatu | seven | in “nanatsu”, “nanoka” |
| 8 | yatu | eight | in “yattsu”, “yae (eightfold)” |
| 9 | kokonotu | nine | in “kokonotsu”, “kokonoka” |
| 10 | tō / towo | ten | still used as “tō” today |
| 20 | hata | twenty | in “hatachi (20 years old)” |
| 30 | miso | thirty | in “misoji (in one’s thirties)” |
| 40 | yoso | forty | |
| 50 | iso | fifty | |
| 60 | muso | sixty | |
| 70 | nanaso | seventy | |
| 80 | yaso | eighty | in “yasoji”, “yasoshima (many islands)” |
| 90 | kokoso | ninety | |
| 100 | momo | hundred | survives in “momotaro”, “momose”, “yaoyorozu momo” |
| 1000 | chi | thousand | in “chiyo (a thousand generations)”, “yachiyo (eight thousand generations)” |
| 10000 | yorozu | ten thousand | “yao yorozu no kami ( eight ten thousand gods) |
expamle 12345 yorozu amari futa chi amari mi momo amari yoso amari itsutsu
The risk of getting axed isn’t actually the same for solo vs duo creators.
In Jump, you only get 3 chances before the editors basically blacklist you. Once you’ve had 3 failures, you’ll never be allowed to run in a main magazine again.
That’s why the writer–artist duo format is treated as a last-resort move, not something you want to use casually. If you team up and still get axed, then both of you lose one of your limited shots at serialization. It’s too risky to waste that option early.
Sure, Boruto or DBS make it look like “different authors continuing the same series” is normal. But those are legacy IPs backed by massive brands.
Jump’s newcomer rotation is nothing like that. When you’re still fighting for survival in the magazine, every axe counts, and you only get 3 axes.
On paper a writer–artist duo sounds ideal, but most mangaka don't want to split the pie. The more people involved, the smaller each person’s cut becomes. If you can handle story and art alone you keep full control and full royalties.
There’s also the risk factor. Partnerships fall apart in the middle of a series, creative differences, scheduling issues, or ego clashes. If the writer and artist split up halfway through, the whole project can collapse or the quality tanks.
So from a business and stability standpoint, working solo is often safer and more profitable, even if it isn’t the "healthiest" workload.
Yeah I get that. The romance subplot is easily the weakest part of Bakuman for me too. kind of creepy at worst.
It is funny though, because everything else about the series is so sharp and grounded, especially the behind-the-scenes look at Jump’s editorial process and the grind of serialization.
knowing it’s the same duo behind "Death Note" also puts things in perspective. They already had a bit of a reputation for not writing female characters in the most flattering or well-rounded way, so it kind of tracks here too. Still, I think: if you set aside the romance, Bakuman is one of the best depictions of creative industry struggles I’ve ever read.
If Attack on Titan were a Weekly Shonen Jump series, the usual tropes you would see
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While slicing a titan’s nape, characters shout technique names like "Nape Cutting Slash!"
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During battles, gag lines and quips keep popping up, the conversations have zero tension, and the jokes are not funny
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Since fighting only with swords is deemed plain, a new set of "skills" or a full "power system" gets introduced
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Every named character unlocks some kind of titan power, even the guy who sells potatoes
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All Survey Corps members go through a training arc to master the new abilities
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A "Titan Power Inheritance Tournament" or a "Titan vs Humanity Martial Arts Tournament" is held
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Ranking battles and promotion exams are run in teams of three
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By the time the Survey Corps entrance exam arc arrives, the story has already stretched past fifty volumes
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On top of that, the final boss turns out to be a last minute character with no prior foreshadowing
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The protagonist often acts on his own, dragging teammates into trouble
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Nobody dies, everything is solved by friendship and by shouting a little louder
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The reason for fighting becomes a vague Jump style goal such as "to save the world"
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Even if Eren dies, he comes back to life and starts getting close with Mikasa
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In the sequel, Eren and Mikasa’s child becomes the new protagonist
According this site and this site
They used the "Annual Publishing Statistics Report" (出版統計年報) by the "Research Institute for Publications" (出版科学研究所) as a reference.
The Annual Publishing Statistics Report is an annual publication that offers detailed statistics on first print runs, return rates, and the number of newly released titles, covering general publications distributed through wholesaler channels since 1958.
I recently came across a tragic case where a woman in her early 40s with a history of anorexia nervosa reportedly lived on white sugar alone for about 3 years.
She was brought to the emergency department of Saitama Medical Center (Japan) on July 9, 2021, in a state of shock and altered consciousness. According to the report, her only diet for several years had consisted of licking white sugar. On the day of admission, she was found unconscious approximately 30 minutes after she had last been seen consuming sugar.
She had a past history of anorexia nervosa and had twice experienced septic shock in the past two to three years. She had no prescription medications, but had sustained a femoral fracture several months prior.
Upon admission
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GCS: E1V1M4, JCS: III-200
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Blood pressure: 69/38 mmHg, HR: 64 bpm
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SpO2: 92% with 10L reservoir mask
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Glucose: 28 mg/dL
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Ammonia, liver enzymes, and BUN were all elevated
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TSH was high, suggestive of hypothyroidism
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Echocardiography revealed an EF of \~20%, indicating cardiogenic shock
Differential diagnosis for her impaired consciousness included
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Hypoglycemic encephalopathy
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Hepatic encephalopathy due to cardiogenic shock
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Wernicke encephalopathy
Treatment was initiated with IV glucose, thiamine (Alinamin), and other B vitamins. However, despite aggressive support, she developed polymorphic ventricular tachycardia (VT), progressed to ventricular fibrillation (VF) and pulseless electrical activity (PEA), and died shortly thereafter.
The most likely cause of death was thiamine deficiency (beriberi-related cardiogenic shock).
That made me wonder:
Hypothetically, if someone were to consume only white sugar as their primary calorie source, but also take supplements providing all essential vitamins (e.g. B1/thiamine), amino acids/proteins, and essential fatty acids, would they be able to survive long-term?
In other words: Is it theoretically possible to live on a "minimalist nutrition" diet consisting of ?
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White sugar for calories
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Multivitamin/mineral pills
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Protein powder or amino acid supplements
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Omega-3 or other essential fatty acids
Of course, this wouldn’t be healthy in any holistic sense, but I'm curious from a purely biochemical and survival standpoint. Would such a person avoid fatal deficiencies, or are there other risks (gut atrophy, lack of fiber, microbiome collapse, etc.) that would make long-term survival impossible?
Would love to hear thoughts from people in nutrition science, medicine, or biochemistry.
Have you noticed how one-sided most of Saiki’s conversations with them were? That doesn’t exactly scream “genuine connection,” no matter how things turned out in the alternate timeline. It never really felt like a friendship built on mutual understanding. It was less like a game of catch, and more like dodgeball.
I really appreciate your perspective, and I agree with a lot of what you're saying. When artists create based on their own interests and passions, the result can often be more meaningful and powerful. Personal expression tends to have a unique voice, and when it connects with others who share similar tastes, it can leave a lasting impression. You're right that many of the most memorable works came from artists following their own vision, not chasing trends or popularity.
At the same time, I think there's also value in thinking about how others might receive your work. That doesn't mean compromising your ideas just to please a crowd, but rather being aware of how your message is communicated. Art can be a conversation, not just a monologue. If it's too closed off, it might not reach anyone at all, no matter how sincere it is.
Of course, being understood doesn't mean you have to sacrifice depth, but it might require a certain level of compromise. Not in the sense of watering things down, but in shaping your ideas so they can actually reach the people who would appreciate them most.
So yes, I agree that artists should focus on what they truly care about. But I also believe there’s something powerful in finding a balance between personal vision and connection with others. You don’t have to choose between being honest and being understood.
Yeah, I’ll admit—I just wanted to flex a new term I learned recently lol
As cable networks like Cartoon Network are dying out, we’re only now beginning to realize the value of a shared, anthology-style platform. Indie artists like those behind Glitch just can’t fill that gap—because platforms like that also play the crucial role of supporting artists with weaker engagement.
Remember how overconfident Kishimoto was?
He said he poured all of his Naruto experience into Samurai 8
but if you knew just how much of Naruto’s foundation was actually shaped by his editors,
you probably wouldn’t see him the same way again
What Naruto’s first editor actually did:
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Cut almost all of the exposition scenes
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Insisted on adding Sasuke to the story
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Told Kishimoto to drop Kakashi’s old-fashioned “gozaru” speech style
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Came up with the entire Land of Waves arc
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Scrapped the idea of the Hokage and mentor characters being animals
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Had all the classmates appear at once during the Chūnin Exams
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Came up with the original ideas for the supporting classmates and Rock Lee
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Suggested turning Naruto from a literal fox into a human (as he was in the original one-shot)
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Advised turning Zabuza’s partner from a bear into a human—Haku
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Rejected jutsu names repeatedly until they followed a consistent in-universe naming system, since the original names had no clear logic
Well, some of this was probably influenced by Togashi too...
they analyzed the table of contents of Weekly Shonen Jump from Issue #24 (November 3, 1969) to Issue #30 (July 31, 2017).
This data is only up to 2017.
if a series doesn’t gain traction within about 10 chapters (though since 2020, that number has increased to around 20), it often gets axed
As mentioned earlier, since 2020, the number of chapters spent before a series in Jump gets axed has increased from a minimum of 10 chapters to 20 chapters.
It is unclear why they abandoned the old cancellation system where series were ended after just 10 weeks.
The missing quoted text from the post
In this context, Kazuhiko Torishima—famously known as the editor of Dragon Ball and nicknamed “Mashirito”—made a well-known comment:
Even for a creator, if they fail three times in a row with their serializations, then it’s over. That creator has no future. At least, not in Jump.
In the final volume of Time Paradox Ghostwriter, in the bonus chapter titled Itsuka no Itsuka made, this urban legend is directly addressed. In one scene, an editor says:
“If a veteran and a newcomer both produce works of the same quality, there’s a tendency to prioritize the newcomer. So, I do think the bar is higher for veterans.”
Thank you for your comment.
Actually, I spent the whole day staring at Google Translate and ChatGPT trying to translate these comments. If you liked them, it really encourages me, knowing that the time I spent translating wasn't in vain.
Some parts may have been translated twice and ended up a bit redundant
please forgive me for that.
I summarized Japan's impressions using the method that is using.
Flames of Otr
Elevator Pitch:
Flames of Otr by Yuki Kawaguchi, creator of Red Hood, is a new fantasy series based on Norse mythology.
Otr dreams of becoming a warrior like his father but is instead tasked with keeping the fire burning as the cook of a fortress. However, when the demonic army of the Ice Kingdom attacks, both the people and the fire face annihilation. Can Otr awaken a power that will turn the tide of battle? A hero’s journey through fire and ice begins now!
After struggling with Red Hood—criticized for its sluggish pacing, cliché plot, and baffling developments—Kawaguchi returns to Weekly Shonen Jump for a second shot at serialization.
Analysis:
Following the much-discussed but short-lived Red Hood, Flames of Otr marks Kawaguchi’s second serialization in Weekly Shonen Jump. From the beginning, there are noticeable technical improvements compared to his previous work.
Most notably, the pacing is significantly faster than Red Hood. That series spent its first five chapters confined to a single village, followed by a prolonged “cops-and-robbers” arc that dragged for seven more. In contrast, Otr kicks off with immediate action in the first chapter and quickly moves the story beyond the village setting. Some readers see this as a clear lesson learned from the earlier series.
However, there are also more cautious voices. While the artwork and pacing have improved, some say the story structure and tone still feel similar to Red Hood. The way exposition is handled and the types of characters used may look different on the surface, but many readers feel the fundamental flaw—a dull story—still lingers.
For example, some criticize the premise as too generic. It follows a classic shonen template, making the plot feel overly familiar and the setting heavily reliant on genre conventions.
Additionally, a segment of readers finds the protagonist’s young age and exposed midriff jarring, especially within the context of a dark fantasy world. This mismatch, they argue, breaks immersion and weakens the overall tone.
Some in Japan are also asking: "Is Otr just being seen more favorably in comparison to even worse recent offerings?" Recent Jump new serialization titles like Nice Prison, Hakutaku, and Murakami have been poorly received, and so Otr may be benefiting from low expectations rather than genuine merit.
Post-Chapter 1 Impressions:
While many readers are avoiding snap judgments based solely on the first chapter, concerns persist into Chapter 2. Some feel the world-building and exposition bear too strong a resemblance to Red Hood, raising fears that the series will once again spend five chapters just setting up, only to launch into another long, confusing arc.
Comparisons are also being made with other Jump fantasy debuts like Ginka & Glüna and Ice-Head Gill, which began with promise but fizzled out due to slow pacing, unclear plot direction, and overly conventional genre elements.
There’s also concern about sticking with such a young protagonist. Many fans note that even Dragon Ball only achieved mainstream success when Goku aged and matured in DBZ. This concern is echoed in recent flops like Fabricant 100, where a similarly young lead was seen as a factor in its failure.
Whether Otr can avoid the same pitfalls remains to be seen, but readers are already expressing a mix of hope and anxiety.
Impression
TLDR Summary:
Flames of Otr opens with noticeably improved artwork and pacing compared to Red Hood, making for a more accessible entry point. However, core issues remain—weak story foundation, formulaic characters, and a lack of originality. While some cautiously optimistic readers believe it won’t be canceled soon due to Jump's current low standards, the real challenge will be whether the series can sustain interest and avoid disappointing its audience.
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726 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:03:10.67
I read Otr—it had an incredible aura.
730 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:05:12.51
(\*´Д｀) Haa haa… We can’t judge Otr based on just one chapter, especially after what happened with Red Hood.
732 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:05:36.59
If Otr is a hit, Kagura's ranking will drop one spot again.
733 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:05:49.25
Looks like Otr learned from the mistakes of the previous work, but I’m still being cautious.
735 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:06:25.34
Even if it’s getting praise here, that doesn’t mean much.
736 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:06:55.86
Maybe they learned from Red Hood—the pacing is ridiculously fast, lol.
Guess they *can* do it when they try.
739 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:07:43.23
Otr is actually pretty decent, right?
743 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:08:49.19
Among the recent new series, Otr is by far the most entertaining.
It all depends on how Chapter 2 turns out.
746 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:09:08.60
The art in Otr is really good.
Let’s see how things go until Chapter 3 at least.
748 “Supporter of Nue’s Transfer” 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:09:35.56
Otr is doing great!!!
754 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:11:27.16
I’ll wait and see with Otr.
Chapter 1 wasn’t bad.
773 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:15:04.02
Everyone’s taste has been ruined thanks to Nice Prison...
787 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:20:59.90
You’re seriously saying Otr is good?
It had so much dialogue, but none of it stuck with me.
792 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:23:50.90
Otr looks like it's going to have a rough time.
The character designs lack variety—everyone has the same face and hairstyle.
793 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:23:58.65
Chapter 1 of Otr wasn’t bad.
But we’ll have to see if it can surpass Himaten or Kiyoshi.
794 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:24:50.97
Otr is just okay.
The four-armed thing—well, it’s fine if it’s non-human, I guess.
798 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:25:01.87
Based on Chapter 1 alone, Otr is better than "Embers", but worse than "Beethoven".
800 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:25:37.01
Kawaguchi’s new work feels way too much like Ice-Head Gill.
This might get axed faster than Red Hood.
801 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:25:39.60
Otr isn’t bad, but even if it survives, it’ll probably sell like Kiyoshi or Shinobi—nothing more.
810 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:28:53.35
The art in Otr has definitely improved, and I can tell they’ve reflected on the last series.
If it still doesn’t work out, maybe they need a separate writer like in "Asahi Sakano".
871 “Supporter of Nue’s Transfer” 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:41:55.48
Let’s go get the male companion character in Chapter 2 of Otr, lol.
873 “Golden Gourmet” 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:42:33.96
Hmm… Chapter 1 of Otr was okay, but honestly Ginka & Glüna felt more fun to me.
Still, Otr probably has better art and might sell more.
I didn’t really get a strong feel for the protagonist’s beliefs—maybe other characters can help fill that in.
879 “Himaten is a National Treasure” 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:43:21.65
Otr follows a painfully generic plot we’ve seen a thousand times,
but the art is solid, so it’s readable.
If the art’s this good, it’s better to stick with a classic formula at first instead of being weirdly original.
880 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 00:43:53.09
Looks like Otr is going to mess around again with drawn-out stuff like “deciding to set off on a journey” all within the village.
882 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 00:44:08.17
Since it's the first episode of Otr, the artwork is really detailed, but you can already see signs of it running out of steam.
883 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:44:11.40
The character designs in Otr just aren’t appealing at all.
900 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:49:33.65
In Otr, the sister, the captain, and the fire spirit all have the exact same spiky hairstyle…
901 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:49:48.60
Well… I at least respect that it’s trying to do fantasy.
907 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:50:29.57
Otr is okay.
Don’t think it’ll become a masterpiece, but in the battle genre, it could be the third or fourth best in the magazine.
919 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:52:27.74
Otr is decent, but it needs some sort of “spark.”
Otherwise, people will just go with *Ichi* for fantasy battles.
"Ichi-Bachi" is just too well-balanced with its East-West and yin-yang themes—tough competition.
920 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:52:37.97
This is the most hyped I’ve been for a new fantasy series since Ice-Head Gill.
I think this one’s got potential.
921 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:52:39.50
*Otr* isn’t bad, but it’s a very standard story—nothing new.
Then again, at least they didn’t try to get weird with it.
927 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:53:14.45
How many pages did Otr have?
Felt like I finished it really quickly.
No favorite characters or cool moves stood out.
The one thing I remember is the afterlife realm—it was emphasized a lot, so it’ll probably be important later.
934 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:54:01.44
Good points in Otr:
* The art was clearly done with effort.
Concerns:
* Is this going to be a military-themed story? (That means a lot of background characters—can they handle that?)
* The main character supposedly can’t fight because he’s too kind, but then he just suddenly starts fighting?
937 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:55:23.18
Making a kid the main character in a battle manga is "really" hard when you think about it.
938 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:55:25.29
I think battle manga should always assign the protagonist to some organization in Chapter 1.
I’m worried about Otr.
Unlike some of the garbage battle manga below it, it’s not unpleasant to read, and I can tell they’re trying.
939 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 00:55:27.72
> > 910
Yeah, reading the current Jump makes me feel like I'm being forced to train on a crappy game.
943 “Supporter of Nue’s Transfer” 2025/05/12(Mon) 00:56:09.48
Come to think of it, *Otr* hasn’t made it clear who or what they’re even fighting.
Is it the nation’s military? Wild spirits? A godlike villain?
Personally, I think large-scale army battles don’t work well in the weekly serial magazine.
967 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 01:01:08.73
Looks like *Otr* didn’t actually learn anything from *Red Hood*.
Saying “it’s not bad” is basically the same as saying “it’s not good.”
(I haven’t read it, I’m just talking smack.)
971 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 01:01:46.19
Can we please get some character growth for the Otr protagonist?
It’s hard to get into a battle manga with a shota lead.
974 Anonymous 2025/05/12(Mon) 01:02:16.51
Chapter 1 of Otr had a tall girl, zombies… and gave off serious *Ice-Head Gill* vibes.
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35 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:15:59.10
Otr feels like you're jumping into chapter 5 of a manga you’ve never heard of.
The art’s good, but the story didn’t really click for me.
103 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:29:05.06
I wrote this in the previous thread too, but I’m just not into shota protagonists in battle manga.
I felt the same with that Fabricant 100.
The story wasn’t bad, but since it’s just the first chapter, I’ll wait and see.
112 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:31:00.36
> > 103
> > Almost every shota protagonist in Jump has flopped.
> > They should just publish it in CoroCoro Comic.
134 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:36:16.19
Otr feels like it’s better than Ice-Head Gill, but worse than Ginka & Glüna.
I wonder if it’ll get more interesting from here.
137 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:37:53.08
Otr seems more interesting than *Nice Prison*,
But not by much, honestly.
139 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:38:24.22
But Otr lost the order of serialization in the editorial meeting to Nice Prison. Maybe episodes 2 and 3 are that bad, Or the editorial department is just broken.
145 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:39:46.12
In his previous work, Red Hood, Kawaguchi wasted 7 chapters on something like a mere entry test, called 'game of tag,' which anyone could wrap up in a single chapter. He must have learned from that, right?
146 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:40:11.02
Have there ever been any hit battle manga with a shota protagonist, not just in Jump?
163 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:42:59.26
> > 150
> > Ah, Goku… Well, sure, but he only became a massive hit after growing up.
> > Naruto doesn’t count as shota. If he does, then Tsuna from Reborn would be one too.
168 Golden Enthusiast \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:43:40.36
> > 134
That's about it, it's above amateur level, but whether they can remain as a professional is questionable... it's that kind of subtle, unremarkable feeling.
However, right now, it seems like the environment is more favorable for staying than it was for Ginka & Glüna.
So, that's at least a positive aspect
149 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:40:56.64
If Otr gets canceled too, we should just ban shota protagonists altogether.
180 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:49:30.67
Ginka & Glüna was still interesting up until the fight with Anemone’s master.
It was definitely better than Red Hood, which barely left the village.
176 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:48:09.96
If Otr can at least meet the minimum standard, it’ll survive.
Whether the volumes sell is another story.
30 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:14:22.66
Let’s just say that from now on, any canceled series has “departed for Valhalla.”
71 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:21:53.76
Otr gives off a super intriguing vibe.
Is it okay to be hopeful?
96 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:27:10.93
Otr could land in the rankings somewhere between "Akane" and "Kagura".
97 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:27:32.68
Otr was decent.
Definitely better than "Murakami" "Hakutaku", "embers", and "Nice Prison".
It’s not that good rookies aren’t showing up—it’s that the editors have no eye for talent.
104 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:29:10.93
Some of Otr’s lines feel like they could become memes.
I have high hopes for it.
106 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:29:58.01
> > 103
> > If it’s going for dark fantasy, I wish the protagonist looked a bit older.
> > Still, it’s within tolerable range, I guess.
113 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:31:08.06
Otr could either become the next "My Hero Academia" or end up like "Barrage".
120 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:32:20.22
The scene where Otr is doing kitchen duty only gets one panel—why?
Use more time on that; what kind of character is this supposed to be?
129 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:35:00.67
From the PV, Otr actually looks like it could be a masterpiece.
130 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:35:03.49
No matter how much they admired warriors, it's still a bit strange for a character who didn't really do anything to suddenly become a warrior just because they gained power. It might have been common in older manga, but nowadays, I feel like strength needs more justification. Though, I wouldn't say they should add as many training scenes as in Demon Slayer.
132 Golden Enthusiast \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:35:26.88
> > 113
> > Comparing it to "My Hero Academia" is too harsh—cut it some slack.
> > Given how weak the current lineup is, we just hope it beats "Barrage".
135 Squall \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:36:21.76
> > 104
> > Yeah, some lines really stay with you.
> > Not in a cringy way, more like… memorably well-done.
148 Anonymous \[Mon] 2025/05/12 01:40:42.34
If the protagonist had been a girl, Otr might’ve had a shot.
As a boy… not so sure.
149 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:40:56
If *Otr* gets canceled too, let’s just ban all shota protagonists.
150 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:41:06
Can we count Naruto and Goku as shota?
151 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:41:16
> > 146
> > Are you talking about "Dragon Quest: Dai's Great Adventure"?
152 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:41:29
Fabricant 100's Ashibi also started off well with a shota protagonist but gradually lost momentum.
158 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:42:07
At least it doesn’t look like it’ll turn into a trainwreck like "kyokuto necromance", so that’s a relief.
That one partly failed because Murakoshi editor didn’t give it proper guidance.
159 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:42:08
The protagonist of Red Hood felt more solid.
*Otr*, not so much...
160 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:42:20
> > 155
> > Early Goku counts as shota, right?
> > If Otr matures like Goku, there’s still a chance.
161 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:42:21
When the protagonist has a short stature, it immediately feels like it’s for little kids, and middle to high school readers just bounce off.
They need to realize that.
162 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:42:59
> > 150
> > Ah, Goku... well, he only exploded in popularity after growing up.
> > Naruto isn’t really a shota—if he is, then so is Tsuna from Reborn.
170 Squall Mon 2025/05/12 01:44:08
The order of new series debuts is largely depends by past achievements, but Sugunuma doesn't have much of a track record, in the weekly magazine. Kawaguchi, on the other hand, has at least had some serialization experience.
173 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:47:10
The "first" chapter of Ginka & Glüna was actually great.
174 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:47:31
The current bottom rankings are stuff like "Kiyoshi", "Kill Blue", "Nue", "Himaten", "Nice Prison"…
If Otr is better than those, it might survive.
173 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:49:16
If only Ginka & Glüna didn’t have that snowman…
Such a pointless character.
180 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:49:30
I think Ginka & Glüna was still good up to the fight with dear Anemone.
Definitely better than Red Hood, which barely left the village.
181 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:49:54
> > 173
> > Yeah, totally.
> > Ginka & Glüna was one of those cancellations that actually had a good first chapter.
> > So as long as Otr didn’t fall short of that, it shouldn’t be a fatal flaw.
199 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 01:56:56
*Otr* only looks better because Nice Prison lowered the bar.
It just feels like another run-of-the-mill canceled series.
367 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 03:14:31
Otr
Personally, I love Square Enix RPGs and *Final Fantasy*, so the art, worldbuilding, and atmosphere were great.
But the manga storytelling is weak.
There’s definitely potential, but at this level it might get axed.
368 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 03:18:36
Otr had amazing art that really brought out my inner child.
But the overstuffed setting feels dangerous.
It felt more like a GIGA one-shot.
370 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 03:19:22
Otr wasn’t bad, but honestly not that interesting either.
Still, the pacing improved, and the art is solid.
Given the current state of Jump, it might stick around for a bit.
372 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 03:24:30
Regardless of whether Otr is good or not,
if the other one in this double feature doesn’t measure up, it’s gonna be disappointing.
409 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 07:49:32
More than the story, the fact that it’s a dark fantasy with a shota protagonist makes me doubt it’ll survive.
412 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 07:54:13
Kawaguchi-kun: “Wouldn’t it be cool if he could use Hinokami Kagura from the start...? Let’s go with that!”
And then… yeah.
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Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 07:01:47
Even in the first chapter, there are way too many characters with similar faces and hairstyles.
Didn’t the editor say anything?
Cold region, rare creature partner, child protagonist—it’s giving Ginka & Glüna vibes.
That one started with promise too but fizzled out, so I hope this one pulls through.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 07:38:34
The Nordic theme overlaps with Ice-Head Gill, so the vibe ends up pretty similar.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 07:44:06
Nordic settings always end up feeling gloomy. Why do they keep doing it?
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 08:53:31
The outfit and the enemies being ice users really give off a strong Game of Thrones vibe.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 10:33:08
The first chapter of the previous series was good too.
I thought the adventure would start in Chapter 2, but they just stayed in the first village the whole time—didn't make any sense.
Hopefully this time, the journey actually begins quickly.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 10:39:12
Yeah, it definitely feels like Fire Punch but with the impact removed.
Flames of Otr feels like Fire Punch made by an ordinary person, while Ginka & Glüna feels like Fire Punch made by an eccentric.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:12:26
Since Fire Punch was on my mind,
I’m just glad the little sister didn’t die in Chapter 1.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 08:38:52
I think the faint Scandinavian boom comes from the Vinland Saga generation becoming manga artists.
*Centuria* on Jump+ also gives off that vibe.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:06:15
The new series isn’t bad, but the protagonist’s exposed belly look is just…
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:06:48
The art is good, but the protagonist has no charm.
Also, they sure love big women again.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:10:29
Did "Ice-Head Gill 2" start?
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:43:43
Yeah, but this one seems more promising than Ice-Head Gill.
Lots of manga set in ancient Nordic-like worlds lately.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 07:14:11
Since Ginka & Glüna 2's Ichi the witch is doing well, let’s stay hopeful.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:13:17
Otr chapter 1 was good.
But if it becomes like Red Hood, where they drag out the "leaving the village" thing over chapter 2, I'll drop it.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:43:27
Otr was solid.
The art is really polished, and I honestly thought it was “fun.”
Just hope they’ve learned from the last time and keep the story moving early on.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 08:12:34
After what happened with Red Hood, I’m not judging anything until chapter 2.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 06:58:28
Every time someone says “Valhalla, Valhalla,” it reminds me of Thorfinn before he became a slave in Vinland Saga.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 08:20:38
I was hoping for better story development, but instead the art just got even more refined. Kinda funny.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 08:29:22
I like the plot progression, but I wish they explained the setting more clearly.
Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 08:39:48
Of all the new series’ covers in recent years, this might be the best one.
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47 Anonymous Mon 2025/05/12 00:17:47
Yeah x8
Otr is pretty much “over” already.
It’s just too generic—no personality at all.
80 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 00:25:03
Yeah x1
The new series has amazing art, but I wonder how long it can keep going.
89 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 00:27:15
Yeah x1
Judging from Red Hood, the author seems to draw fast.
90 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 00:27:41
I wonder how the Red Hood author's new work will turn out.
They've always been known for their drawing skills, so I wanted them to succeed as an illustrator.
But if they aim to be a manga artist, they probably want to come up with their own stories too.
98 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 00:28:35
Yeah x13
They’ve only messed up once so far. Honestly, I didn’t have any expectations, but if they’re putting in this much effort, I can support it.
124 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 00:32:24
Yeah x6
The new series feels pretty good.
As long as they don’t start doing a game of tag again like last time, it might work.
298 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 01:03:48
People are calling the new series a fake Ice-Head Gill, and I laughed.
Is the editorial department really into Norse mythology or something?
508 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12
Yeah x1
I thought Ice-Head Gill was older, but it started in June 2023, so it’s not even two years old yet.
Started in June, ended in November with 20 chapters total.
510 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 01:31:27
Yeah x11
Honestly, the new series was super interesting.
The criticisms sound like nitpicking over nothing.
522 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 01:33:23
Yeah x1
That makes three Norse mythology-themed works in the last two years, including One Piece.
That’s a pretty high frequency.
539 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 01:38:04
The village is out, but isn’t the fortress pretty much fallen too? Is that okay?
568 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 01:45:50
Hmm…
I like the Norse theme, but Otr feels kinda off.
Too many panels where I can’t tell what’s going on in the fights.
665 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 02:34:54
Yeah x2
The reading experience doesn’t feel that different from Red Hood’s first chapter.
Not much of a change.
667 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 02:49:21
I hope Otr is just a manga that keeps hitting us with art power instead of doing cops-and-robbers tag.
668 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 02:50:26
They probably won’t make the mistake of never leaving the village again, but who knows.
669 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 02:51:29
Yeah x6
> They probably won’t make the mistake of never leaving the village again
> What kind of mistake is "never leaving the village"?
670 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 02:51:52
Yeah x3
If you could tell it’s a mistake *before* making it, it wouldn’t be so hard.
671 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 02:53:20
Vikings are all about going on voyages.
With a Norse mythology theme, you can have tons of allies and enemies popping up, so the story shouldn’t stall.
699 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 06:31:16
Yeah x1
I’m worried that the reactions are too similar to Red Hood.
700 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 06:32:08
Yeah x2
Feels like there’s been no growth at all, so it can’t be helped.
710 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 06:57:09
Yeah x3
Otr is better than I thought and the packed-in personal fetishes are a nice touch, but isn’t it a bit too Norse-myth-heavy?
One Piece is doing Elbaf too, so there’s a Norse traffic jam...
720 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 07:20:48
Yeah x15
No way you can draw with Berserk-level detail on a weekly schedule.
803 Anonymous Mon 25/05/12 08:45:50
I think Otr handled it pretty well by leaving the hometown in chapter 1, so staying in the fortress for a while isn’t a problem.
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