Originally posted by JacquesPatat:

Originally posted by slayR:

i dont expect noobs like you to understand, you dont have %5 of my cs knowledge and experience, you've most likely never played cs nor care how bad it is with the cheaters, or you know exactly and youre working for some of the cheat providers, or youre just an idiot messaging here just cause you think you know somesht, you dont.

no offense Slayr but coming to a community only forum, to fent your frustrations on other steam users, does not help you in any way. I mean if i look at myself, i played Counter strike from when it was still beta for Half life 1, so if we go by your statement, i have more knowledge of CS then you, but i'm not going to do that.

Now yes, bans are delayed, not instantly given, sometimes it is given instantly, other times there are a delay from couple hours to couple days to couple weeks, to couple months.

Now take my advise, either you find something else to play, or you create your own anti cheat system and manage it or you accept the system is not working to your satisfaction. By the end of the day, yes we can discuss, and point out things, but fighting with users, and name calling is not necessary.

you dont have the experience, nor the knowledge, it seems you guys keep trying to bend your statements to make it seems as you guys know more, you dont, i play everyday, ive been playing since 2002, on and off, in the past 3 years the game has become a joke, even today when i joined the game, 20k+ game btw, 2 people on my team were cheating, they even posted a web radar in the chat for us to join, ofc as i hate cheaters whether theyre on my team or not i refused, and they voted me off the game, i will not stop playing this game, and i will insist on the reality of the game, the game is filled with cheaters and in 95% of most cases where they use paid hacks, vac or valv doesnt do sht or cant do sht, thats why they are going for years before being detected if at all, and you talk about delayed bans etc, what you guys are defending is that valc/vac detects only about 5% of the cheaters if that, and thats after many years of cheating. I will insist on the reality that the game is filled with cheaters and valv/vac can barely detect them and hoping valv will update their anti-cheat. What we need is what Valv did roughly 9 years ago, they updated their VAC and anti-cheat systems and bang about 20% of the community got insta banned, it wasnt even 50% of the cheaters at the time but it scared them enough that most stopped cheating, between then and now theyve gotten comfortable and more and more cheatrs and the game is discgusting now. TO VALV - VALV UPDATE YOUR ANTICHEAT PLEASE!

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

"You're a noob who doesn't know nearly as much as I do" - Thinks VAC works off reports. Thinks a $20 paywall will deter cheaters (It didn't, even back before CSGO went free to play)

you must be pretty stupid, reports are a PART OF VALV AND THEIR ANTI-CHEAT SYSTEM, maybe it works differently, but ultimately it does help valv catch and ban those cheaters you genius.

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

Originally posted by slayR:

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if you're this angry, computer games isn't the life for you bro. time to give it up.

youre wrong, im not angry at the game, i own at the game, im angry at the fact that cheaters can cheat soo freely without consequences for many years. I guess its people like you that cheat anyway, and i take cs very seriously, ive played at pro level, many in my old team are in the top 10 in my region, or they were untill last year since so many cheaters are on now. were 25k+ getting cheated by accounts which were under -10k for 3 seasons ina row.and i think people like you most probably cheat or work for those cheat sites to come here and try to make it like VAC is awesome and its doing its job properly so Valv never really takes any action.

Originally posted by Longy999:

Originally posted by slayR:

maybe you should educate yourself and be pro at the game first before talking your rubbish, thats not vacs job this is not vac lives job the bans are delayed , spinning is griefing not cheating bla bla bla bla all a bunch of ignorent idiot talking,
Facts: you guys call spinbotters grifers, lets look, ok, griefers, have wallhack+aimhacks+radar hacks+bunnyhop hacs running similtaniously, and by your point of view, vaclive should pick it up eventually, does it ? NOOOOPE! guys been spinbotting 100+ games, spinning, bhopping, walling all headshots through smokes+doors+flashed+single bullet headshots no detection by vaclive, no detection of their cheats by vac, no ban, and theyre at 32k+ rating, without a single loss, lemme guess by some idiot like you he would be calling that guy griefing, so lets analyse, whether you call it vac live or you call it VAC or you call its cs anticheat or whatever the fk, if a anticheat system cant pick ♥♥♥♥ up like that over 100+ games of completely spinning i would say that anticheat system doesnt work, and i know im correct. you call it griefing, how hasnt the system caught 100+ games of single shots to the heads over 100+ games wiping enemy team out every round and climbing up the rating without a single loss, i would love to see you try to back VALV on this crap. or you are most likely a closet cheater who loves VAC being so useless as it is and you come here trying to defend it.

Kindly show me one single time I mentioned griefing or spinbotting. Will save you the time, I didn't...

Once again, as apparently basic reading comprehension seems to be beyond you, I do not play competitive MP games, in fact, to my knowledge, I don't think any of the 800+ games on my account, or any that I've played, even uses vac so 'closet cheater' is also complete and utter BS too. My games list is public, feel free to have a look

You keep saying idiot yet still have zero clue how the system works despite being told by several of the regular posters here. Now you're also just making stuff up that never once have I mentioned in this thread, think it's time to take your meds lil bro

There's most certainly an idiot here but sadly, it isn't me

Again, bans are delayed, they're delayed on purpose. There's plenty of information online that will explain how the system works. Ask an adult to read it to you if that's too difficult

Is the system perfect? Of course not, no anti-cheat ever will be, but to say it straight up doesn't work, despite the evidence to prove otherwise, is making you look foolish

ok, so you just admitted to never playing multiplayer or competitave or any of the games that you play use vac and yet you find it in yourself to come here and comment on my post trying to make useless and invalid comments? in that case i dont think anything that youve posted on this topic has any validity, i think reading and comprehending is beyond you, what are you really doing here ?

Originally posted by Wock73:

Originally posted by JacquesPatat:

By the end of the day, yes we can discuss, and point out things, but fighting with users, and name calling is not necessary.

This is exactly why I backed out, absolutely nonproductive argument with someone that revels in that garbage

and yet my statements are still correct, most of you are noobs and dont even play the game and yet find it in yourselves to come here and defend a anti-cheat sytem which youve never played under, with no fairness or no recognition of real skill.

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

"You're a noob who doesn't know nearly as much as I do" - Thinks VAC works off reports. Thinks a $20 paywall will deter cheaters (It didn't, even back before CSGO went free to play)

i paid for this game i/we/the community deserve the anti-cheat and the fairness of true competitiveness to be upheld despite the game going free for all. no system is every perfect, but vac has come to point which its being evaded by every single cheaters website there because there is soo many cheaters now.

Originally posted by maoming:

i think they're trying on their own to make vac live viable.. best be patient

I truly truly hope so, seems like valv has forgotten cs2, not a single operation has happened in the past 6 years, no vac update, just skins to make money go around for them, nothing else, but i truly truly hope what you said is true and would welcome and support any sort of action from VALV in this regards, thank you.

Originally posted by XXX:

Originally posted by slayR:

you dont have %5 of my cs knowledge

said someone who dont even know how vac working ......

youre a true idiot, youve never evem played cs2 and you think you can come here and educate me on VAC ? idiot.
in my perspective VAC= valve anticheat=ban cheaters in game=valv banning moast cheaters in game=true?NO = VALV anti cheat is crap and barely even works=no need to be rocket scientist or programmer to understand. now get lost.

Originally posted by slayR:

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

"You're a noob who doesn't know nearly as much as I do" - Thinks VAC works off reports. Thinks a $20 paywall will deter cheaters (It didn't, even back before CSGO went free to play)

you must be pretty stupid, reports are a PART OF VALV AND THEIR ANTI-CHEAT SYSTEM, maybe it works differently, but ultimately it does help valv catch and ban those cheaters you genius.

Insulting folk because you're not getting affirmation's only going to end with nice red letters next to your name here.

Originally posted by Vamp:

One should not brag about how good he is at the free pew pew game played by many of the poorest people of the world.

I dont think you should grind your axe against poor people based off of a dumb game

That just comes across as inflammatory

Originally posted by slayR:

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

if you're this angry, computer games isn't the life for you bro. time to give it up.

youre wrong, im not angry at the game, i own at the game, im angry at the fact that cheaters can cheat soo freely without consequences for many years. I guess its people like you that cheat anyway, and i take cs very seriously, ive played at pro level, many in my old team are in the top 10 in my region, or they were untill last year since so many cheaters are on now. were 25k+ getting cheated by accounts which were under -10k for 3 seasons ina row.and i think people like you most probably cheat or work for those cheat sites to come here and try to make it like VAC is awesome and its doing its job properly so Valv never really takes any action.

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not angry when your doing 8 !!! posts in succesdion and calling ppl idiots.

not related to this forum but the way you communicate to ppl not being disespectful to you pretty much puts you at least in low trust = more cheaters so you got yourself to blame.

You can discuss this in the cs2 forum you wil find an infinite amount off ppl to agree with you and make a nice comfy echo chamber . Since you demonstrated your not open to anything besides your own believes it will probarly suit you perfectly.

Originally posted by slayR:

Originally posted by JacquesPatat:

no offense Slayr but coming to a community only forum, to fent your frustrations on other steam users, does not help you in any way. I mean if i look at myself, i played Counter strike from when it was still beta for Half life 1, so if we go by your statement, i have more knowledge of CS then you, but i'm not going to do that.

Now yes, bans are delayed, not instantly given, sometimes it is given instantly, other times there are a delay from couple hours to couple days to couple weeks, to couple months.

Now take my advise, either you find something else to play, or you create your own anti cheat system and manage it or you accept the system is not working to your satisfaction. By the end of the day, yes we can discuss, and point out things, but fighting with users, and name calling is not necessary.

you dont have the experience, nor the knowledge, it seems you guys keep trying to bend your statements to make it seems as you guys know more, you dont, i play everyday, ive been playing since 2002, on and off, in the past 3 years the game has become a joke, even today when i joined the game, 20k+ game btw, 2 people on my team were cheating, they even posted a web radar in the chat for us to join, ofc as i hate cheaters whether theyre on my team or not i refused, and they voted me off the game, i will not stop playing this game, and i will insist on the reality of the game, the game is filled with cheaters and in 95% of most cases where they use paid hacks, vac or valv doesnt do sht or cant do sht, thats why they are going for years before being detected if at all, and you talk about delayed bans etc, what you guys are defending is that valc/vac detects only about 5% of the cheaters if that, and thats after many years of cheating. I will insist on the reality that the game is filled with cheaters and valv/vac can barely detect them and hoping valv will update their anti-cheat. What we need is what Valv did roughly 9 years ago, they updated their VAC and anti-cheat systems and bang about 20% of the community got insta banned, it wasnt even 50% of the cheaters at the time but it scared them enough that most stopped cheating, between then and now theyve gotten comfortable and more and more cheatrs and the game is discgusting now. TO VALV - VALV UPDATE YOUR ANTICHEAT PLEASE!

Good for you. Again this is a community only forum. If you want to go by "experience" then I started playing in end of 1999, beginning of 2000 cs. Also why do you think I stopped playing cs and only play once in a blue moon. It's because there more cheaters then legit players. Instead of ranting and raving and fighting users, find something else to play or try to find ways to bypass cheaters aka play with only friends or something. If you been playing since 2002, then you of all people should know that bans are delayed, if not then it's clear you didn't play since 2002.

That's why I got a saying, actually most of us use this saying, vote with your time/money

FYI be careful with name calling and fighting, as that can result in a community ban, even if its temporary

I have jumped over barrels since 1981, gamers back then didn’t need to ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan in the forums about how good they think they were, in the arcade everyone will see it for themselves. You keep getting angry because we aren’t going anywhere, we will stick around while you keep pretending to know what VAC is about…..

Go back to your CS2 and continue to be that hashtag leet you think you are, damn shame that you aren’t relevant otherwise we would of heard about your skill by now

Originally posted by slayR:

Originally posted by Longy999:

Kindly show me one single time I mentioned griefing or spinbotting. Will save you the time, I didn't...

Once again, as apparently basic reading comprehension seems to be beyond you, I do not play competitive MP games, in fact, to my knowledge, I don't think any of the 800+ games on my account, or any that I've played, even uses vac so 'closet cheater' is also complete and utter BS too. My games list is public, feel free to have a look

You keep saying idiot yet still have zero clue how the system works despite being told by several of the regular posters here. Now you're also just making stuff up that never once have I mentioned in this thread, think it's time to take your meds lil bro

There's most certainly an idiot here but sadly, it isn't me

Again, bans are delayed, they're delayed on purpose. There's plenty of information online that will explain how the system works. Ask an adult to read it to you if that's too difficult

Is the system perfect? Of course not, no anti-cheat ever will be, but to say it straight up doesn't work, despite the evidence to prove otherwise, is making you look foolish

ok, so you just admitted to never playing multiplayer or competitave or any of the games that you play use vac and yet you find it in yourself to come here and comment on my post trying to make useless and invalid comments? in that case i dont think anything that youve posted on this topic has any validity, i think reading and comprehending is beyond you, what are you really doing here ?

I haven't needed to play MP games to educate myself on the vac system works

Everything I have stated is true and valid, once again, I know how the system works, you do not. Several people have explained it to you but your ignorance continues to shine and the best you can come up with is spouting 'idiot' every other word like a child

I'm here because this is a public forum and I can comment on whatever and wherever I want to :)

Originally posted by slayR:

In my perspective, VAC does not work, with spinbotters and closet cheaters in almost every game, the report function does nothing, the game is filled with cheaters, its unbearable, its come to a state where almost every single game has one or multiple cheaters in it, out of 10 games, youre lucky to gte 1 game without cheaters.
FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS THERE IS MULTIPLE CHEATERS SPINBOTTING AND VAC CANT EVEN PICK THAT UP, VALV IS A JOKE.

Everyone, anyone, i know, you know, everybody here knows. ALL, and i do mean ALL multiplayer games have cheaters in it. Also ALL anti cheat systems sucks. Also this is a community only forum, no valve, no dev's, only other steam users. so why are you referring to name calling, fighting and belittling others? o yeah, i see why, you don't like answers given to you.

Originally posted by slayR:

you dont have the experience, nor the knowledge, it seems you guys keep trying to bend your statements to make it seems as you guys know more, you dont, i play everyday, ive been playing since 2002, on and off, in the past 3 years the game has become a joke, even today when i joined the game, 20k+ game btw, 2 people on my team were cheating, they even posted a web radar in the chat for us to join, ofc as i hate cheaters whether theyre on my team or not i refused, and they voted me off the game, i will not stop playing this game, and i will insist on the reality of the game, the game is filled with cheaters and in 95% of most cases where they use paid hacks, vac or valv doesnt do sht or cant do sht, thats why they are going for years before being detected if at all, and you talk about delayed bans etc, what you guys are defending is that valc/vac detects only about 5% of the cheaters if that, and thats after many years of cheating. I will insist on the reality that the game is filled with cheaters and valv/vac can barely detect them and hoping valv will update their anti-cheat. What we need is what Valv did roughly 9 years ago, they updated their VAC and anti-cheat systems and bang about 20% of the community got insta banned, it wasnt even 50% of the cheaters at the time but it scared them enough that most stopped cheating, between then and now theyve gotten comfortable and more and more cheatrs and the game is discgusting now. TO VALV - VALV UPDATE YOUR ANTICHEAT PLEASE!

You on the other hand have absolutely no experience nor knowledge, whatsoever, none, natha. Now i have been gaming from 80's and i will repeat myself again here, ALL MULTIPLAYER or COMPETITIVE GAMES HAVE CHEATERS IN IT. Either you accept it, or create a new anti cheat system what is far better then any other anti cheat system, or better yet, find something better to play, the minute Valve added skins and lootboxs and made CSgo free to play (before it was CS2), it got flooded with cheaters. so you get what you get. Also if you started in 2002 with CS, then you should know fully, that bans are delayed on purpose, seeing that is when Vac system also was implemented in that same year. If you want to be a big boy, with all the name calling and fighting, then maybe you should get some knowledge on how the system works, so see links below

vacban - https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74
vacban - https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29
gameban cs2 - https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4E54-0B96-D0A4-1557
cooldown - https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/7580-7BDB-1C9A-AC67

wiki vac - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat