idk personally if someone invited me to a book club for a “revolutionary reading” to “read and discuss” the manifestos of terrorist organizations i’d be on the other line with the fbi before they finished speaking
fyi, for those of you who enjoy or have enjoyed DropOut, this is the exact branch of JVP that multiple members of DropOut—including Brennan Lee Mulligan, Izzy Roland, and Ally Beardsley—have been working with and promoting over the last year, advertising support for the PFLP, an officially designated terrorist organization affiliated with Hamas
I used to be a huge fan of dropout so this one really hurt. But the evidence kept piling up, like the aforementioned support of JVP, Brian David Gilbert accidentally retweeting a neonazi because he agreed with him on Palestine, and also the fact that their discord (which I believe has since been shut down) had a huge section dedicated to rancid i/p discourse. And I just couldn’t continue to support them or consume their content.
@samreich, maybe you would like to chime in and give us your opinion on your employees and collaborators supporting an organisation that glorifies terrorists? There’s no nuance to this - the PFLP is considered a terrorist group by the US government. You can disagree with that on moral grounds, but the law is pretty clear. I understand your position so I don’t expect you to reply, but maybe this will give you pause.
This also gets increasingly concerning with the growing overlap between DropOut and Vlogbrothers* & associated ventures (SciShow, Study Hall).
*(mostly just Hank Green @edwardspoonhands tbh; I’m not aware of any direct involvement between DropOut & John @sizzlingsandwichperfection-blog)
I have no reason to believe Hank Green personally knows about or agrees with JVP’s extreme pro-terror sympathies, or to distrust the sincerity of the Green brothers’ previous statements on the conflict—which, while often leaning in favor of Palestinian narratives over Israeli ones, have tended to be fairly mild & balanced in ways that do not in any way suggest the possibility for support of the terror ideology held by organizations like Hamas or PFLP.
However, the fact that Hank Green is colleagues with, and by all appearances personal friends with, members of an organization that does, and that they have been integrating into each other’s business ventures and repeatedly featuring each other in their respective projects over the past year or so, is concerning.
Especially when you consider that SciShow isn’t just entertainment that people watch in their freetime like Dimension20 or Game Changers; it’s a really helpful educational resource that teachers commonly use as supplemental material in high schools.
Because of this, there is a high likelihood that teachers will be introducing their students to Brennan Lee Mulligan—who has involved himself in an organization that promotes the literature & ideology of a terrorist organization—in, of all places, their Science classrooms. And while it’s unlikely that Mulligan will ever say anything truly worrisome in a SciShow video, a fair number of students will become followers and fans of his through SciShow (as has been the case for Hank & SciShow guests in the past), or through Hank directing them to DropOut to see his standup routine & other guest appearances, and then be directed through Brennan, or Ally, or whoever, to JVP & other extreme organizations.
I do not know what’s in the minds or hearts of anyone involved here, but what I am seeing is this:
What I am seeing is a pipeline being built, little different than the alt-right pipeline (perhaps even less diffuse), which—regardless of the intentions or knowledge of all its participants—is funneling people towards the ideology of an officially designated terrorist organization involved in the worst massacre against the Jewish people since the Holocaust. That concerns me.
It should concern you, too.
walked offline for a bit, so this is not breaking news, but Brennan Lee Mulligan appeared on Fear& podcast, hosted by,...
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idk personally if someone invited me to a book club for a “revolutionary reading” to “read and discuss” the manifestos...