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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

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Myself.
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>>18512981
Exodus 3:14 (pi)
is the famous verse where God reveals His name as "I AM WHO I AM"

Shed your circumference and emerge.
Egrēgoreite
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>>18512808
People are a reflection of everything, and then everything mixed together so essentially being a reflection of absolutely nothing and everything without a point.

And actually, they just want to steal information from others as they are likely temp agents acting on behalf of demons.

But nice try giving it a fake sweet little spin. That is truly the greatest achievement of this dying age. And women.
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>>18511772 (OP)
The fault in that should be equally obvious.

>>18511785
Belief in this sense isn't mental affirmation of a fact, it is participative reliance on a fact. You might know the greasy Serbian taxi driver exists, but do you trust him to drive you home?
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>>18511772 (OP)
>purports to believe in self
>heils some other guy
ngmi
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>>18513249
>>purports to believe in self
>>heils some other guy
>ngmi
You wouldn't g edit.

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Being (The Father)
Truth (The Son)
Goodness (The Holy Spirit)

Being is true, and this is good.

It’s the same thing. God. In 3 relations. Repeating in an infinite loop of affirmation.
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>It's the same thing.
So Father = Son.

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Why are consenting sexual acts between adults and juveniles considered morally wrong?
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>>18513370
>Juveniles generally do not have the mental capacity, self-control and experience to participate in sexual relations with fully grown adults.
Why?

>They are likely to get taken advantage of
According to who?

>ruin their lives with early pregnancies
Teenage pregnancies were the norm in the majority of human societies that have ever existed. If you go on tiktok, all the teenage mothers are happy while the childless ones aren't. Having children is the best thing that could happen for a teenage woman, a lot of social problems among young females would be solved if they were getting pregnant when they were 14.

Not getting pregnant as a young teenager is what is actually harmful.

>in case of very young children, also are likely to get injured physically
The majority of sexual acts engaged in by adults w/ children are non-penetrative. Regardless, penetrative adult-child sex is not likely to result in injury; it is actually commonly believed among uncivilized cultures that coitus is a necessary prerequisite for pre-pubescent girls to reach puberty.


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>>18513404
>pederast
Opinion discarded, didn’t read
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>>18513397
>social constructs.
Whoever taught you retards that "social construct" means "something unimportant" needs to be tortured for eternity.
>Law
>Justice
>Friendship
>Cooperation
>Timekeeping
>Language
These things are all dependent fully on mutual understanding and social interaction and are social constructs. None of them could be considered to be unimportant or manipulable at will just because they are social constructs.
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>>18513425
The first four are not social constructs, but eternal properties of God.
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>>18513425
I'm going to rape your ass and you're going to let it bother you more than it needs to.

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>Marriage 1 male & 1 female only
>Legal age: 16 years for males and 14 years for females
>Sex for Reproduction Only
>Have as Many Children as Possible
>No Pre-Marital Sex
>No Divorce
>No Abortion
>No Sodomy (Anal/Oral)
>No Condoms, No BirthPills
>No Lesbian/Gay Sex
>No Incest
>Chasity a Virtue
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>>18512918
What does that verse say exactly?
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>>18513242
The canon law of the church establishes, or rather recognizes in the divine law, an absolute minimum requirement when it comes to literal age.
Educate yourself. This is a legal document pertaining to the lawful administration of the sacraments.
Do you know what the word "licit" means?
There are other areas covered by the canon law too.

https://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib4-cann998-1165_en.html#TITLE_VII.

CHAPTER III.

SPECIFIC DIRIMENT IMPEDIMENTS

Can. 1083 §1. A man before he has completed his sixteenth year of age and a woman before she has completed her fourteenth year of age cannot enter into a valid marriage.

§2. The conference of bishops is free to establish a higher age for the licit celebration of marriage.
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>>18513375
It says, "Go look it up."
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>>18512616
>IT'S NOT PEDOPHILIA IT'S EPHEBOPHILIA
>MAPS ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED MINORITY
Nero was right.
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>>18513436
It says the opposite of what you're claiming it does.

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https://digdeeper.club/articles/enemylaw.xhtml#draft_masculinity

If you were wondering, this is why femboys and gay/bi people exist. We never were masculine, yet are forced into these inhumane stereotypes. In many countries, mandatory military service is only for men, and they are victimblamed by society much more than women. Two thirds of all suicides are done by men and boys. In such a world, where you're told "men don't cry", you aren't allowed to be human.
Right now, in Ukraine, they have banned men aged 18 from leaving the country back in 2022. Yes, just because you're male, you're forced to die, and in society you're never allowed to express your emotions.
Women have it so much easier, yet they keep bragging that they're the one who have no rights, yet it's only true in Afghanistan.

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Sozialismus gegen Bolschewismus

Tod dem Marxismus.
Tod der Lüge

https://files.catbox.moe/lv01yy.mp4
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>>18512247
Awber Ikh bin Amereekawner obvoal.....
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>>18512245 (OP)

Yankee TOD
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>>18512245 (OP)
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>>18512245 (OP)
Why the Bolshevik has such a big nose?
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>>18513362
>why would the representative of the Party of "Trotsky" Bronshtein, Ioffe, "Kamenev" Rosenfeld, Uritsky, Sverdlov, "Zinoviev" Radomyshelsky, "Yagoda" Iyeguda, "Radek" Sobelsohn and Kaganovich have a big nose?
It's a mystery, anon

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>Thou Shall not Kill
Then Why didn’t David go to Hell for killing Goliath?
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>>18513406
It was originally written in greek.
It actually says:
>kolasin aiōnion
kolasin means "correction", "pruning" or "punishment".
aiōnion means "lasting an eon", "age-long" or "eternal"

Reading it to mean "eternal punishment" is a choice by the translator.
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>>18513415
That’s not how language works, a word may have many senses in general but only one possible sense in a given context. Of the options you gave eternal punishment is the only one that makes sense in the context. Jesus is talking about the judgement of evil men for their sins at the last day, therefore “punishment” alone fits here. And it is opposed to “eternal life”, which would be absurd to posit that He is only saying this life will last a long time, and then end, which would contradict the whole tenor of the bible and His teachings. Therefore, eternal punishment is the meaning of the words.
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>>18513406
Everytime you touch a hot stove, it will burn. This punishment will last forever, in. The sense that it will always burn when you touch it. The solution is to stop touching the hot stove. If you reject God, and insist on making bad choices, instead of accepting objectively good choices, the you will burn forever on that stove. The choice is yours.

Every sin is forgiven, except for the sin of denying forgiveness. You cant be forgiven if you dont even acknowledge that forgivness exists.
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>>18513418
"Gehenna" as a place where souls go after death for 12 months to be cleansed of their sins was a popular concept at the time of Jesus in Judaism. It makes much more sense to assume it is a place of correction rather than punishment and it lasting forever makes no sense at all.
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>>18513424
>Every sin is forgiven, except for the sin of denying forgiveness
None of the sins of the reprobate are forgiven
>>18513426
There’s no exegetical argument here, just a philosophical argument against the actual teachings of Jesus. There are many concepts of contemporary Judaism which Jesus explicitly rejected, and the idea of a 12 month purgatory is incompatible with His teaching in general and in this text in particular. First, He is not speaking of man’s death, but the final judgement at the end of the world (verse 31). Second, a period of 12 months does not accord with the use of the word aiōnion. Third, I think Jesus is wiser than you, and will choose to believe what He teaches instead of what makes sense to you. It is punishment and it is eternal because God is infinitely holy and just. It is good that hell exists, because if there was no hell then God would be unjust and the wicked would be permitted to get away with their crimes.

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>Once the monks of the Western and Eastern Halls were arguing about a cat. Nansen, holding up the cat, said, “You monks! If you can say a word of Zen, I will spare the cat. Otherwise I will kill it.” No one could answer, so Nansen cut the cat in two. That evening, when Joshu returned, Nansen told him of the incident. Joshu thereupon took off his sandal, put it on his head, and walked off. Nansen said, “If you had been there, the cat would have been saved!”
What did Nansen mean by this?
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>>18513394 (OP)
Something something monks must have detachment from worldly desires thus detach yourself from words of threats (and of the morality and all expectations of society) and don’t care whether the cat lives or dies

Subvert expectations of society and morality when expected to argue for the sake of the cat, once realised that you are expected to be forced to argue by forcing an attachment to the cat’s life and by that to the cat, you also can’t turn away from the engagement as that might be an expected outcome from society, thus putting the sandal on his head too. (I’m just basing this on this paragraph only and with my on view, without any other context to this)

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It has become very common for people, particularly from India but also from many other countries with identity complexes like "Latin" America, to use pathetic Yamnaya reconstructions or charts from the amateur and highly inaccurate Genetiker tool to prove that they were supposedly brown.. to project a 3300 BC population onto your own personal insecurities and invent a narrative where “brown Yamnaya conquered white EEF European women” saar/o algo to inflate your ego, that claim is false for several reasons.

As I said before, Genetiker garbage is one of the worst tools out there, and he himself admits that his prediction for that sample is poor. serious and testable academic tools like HIrisPlex-S exist. You just need to understand the HIrisPlex-S system instead of imagining things. The categories are biased toward lighter skin tones, and there aren’t many “very pale” people in the world to begin with.

The categories are biased towards lighter skin tones. There aren't many "very pale" people in the world. Also, categories like "Dark" don't represent what we generally consider "dark," but rather a specific range of numerical results, converted into a word. Do you understand? For example, something around 15 to 20% of modern Sicilians are classified as "Dark" according to this system. I think nobody would be surprised by this, but it's worth remembering that "Dark" also refers to a modern European ethnic skin tone in this tool.
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>>18513431 (OP)
2/3

Keep in mind what "dark" skin looks like in the HIrisPlex-S system that is used to predict phenotype in all these ancient DNA studies. I have my doubts how accurate the system is, but "dark" basically ranges between these two tones:

How accurate is HIrisPlex? You tell me. CM HIrisPlex-S patched for missing alleles giving an accuracy rate of 30%; i.e., coded for Uyghurs and Chinese for dark to black skin. But anyway.
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>>18513432
3/3

Finally, it's also useful to note how many Europeans, not just Mediterranean ones, possess the skin tone cataloged as "intermediate" among the Yamnaya. It's a common "shade" throughout Europe since at least the Neolithic period, very common in Mediterranean countries and even in Poland.

They weren't "dark-skinned," nor did they resemble Indians or some insecure neo-Latin. They lived in Ukraine, had a European appearance, and were phenotypically described as European in these craniometric studies. And lastly, this obsession with conquering "white, blonde, GAC" women is false because: 1) the Yamnaya specifically had no direct contact with the GAC; it was the CWC; 2) most European farmers also had the same skin tone as the Yamnaya and the CWC.
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bonus:
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>>18513439
>>18513432
>>18513431 (OP)
What would be a good representation of what the Yamnaya look like today? Nothing against reconstructions, but real people are always better.

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What if the Fuhrer had not been Adolf Hitler, but Hans Landa?Would Germany's chances of winning have increased in such a case?

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Compared to other organizations like PLO, ETA, FARC, etc.

And why did they disband while knowing the UVF would still exist?
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>>18513419 (OP)
The UVF is still active.
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>>18513420
That’s based are they still fundamentalist Calvinists?
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>>18513427
I don't know

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Why are white people so obsessed with the Ottoman Empire? Obsessed as in they mostly think of getting raped by a Turkish warrior in the past.
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>>18512428 (OP)
How many tranny kids does Elon have?
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>>18512428 (OP)
Turks, and especially the people who ran the Ottoman Empire, were white people.
It's kind of funny how the most successful Muslim empire consisted of white Slavs and Greeks, and anti-white Muslim pajeets worship them.
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>>18512428 (OP)
>Null post on /his/
It's like running into a class teacher at the shop.
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>>18512428 (OP)
>>18512467
Nobody cares about the Turks other than being a comedic relief for mankind, second only to Indians
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>>18512428 (OP)
So you're saying the ottomans weren't relevant enough to be talked about today?

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Ellis Island was a mistake. America was founded by WASPs and absorbed French and Spanish territories for the sole purpose of converting them into WASP. If you are not of pre-1776 heritage you are not American. The Founders considered making the Great Seal of the US the Children of Israel following the Pillar of Fire on one side, and Hengist and Horsa on the other. All significant American founders considered America an Anglo-Saxon nation, not a "melting pot." The idol of the pagan goddess Libertas has no relation to my blood or my religion.
This is a fact of history. Catholics are not American. Being Catholic in America is like being a mentally retarded rapist. God bless.
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>>18512363
The original term was 'Wealthy Anglo-Saxon protestant' it was coined by a political scientist in 1957 to describe a specific social cohort. 'White Anglo-Saxon' is a tautology and if you use it like that you are being dumb.
Unless you think Black People can be anglo-saxon, which is very progressive of you.
>>18512305
Were his ancestors wealthy?
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>>18508502
Tbh I specifically singled out Van Buren out because he was a pureblooded, dutch speaking, Dutchman. I would argue the Roosevelts could be consideered WASPs because they had been assimilated into that social class for some generations. Taft was Unitarian, so I'd put him in the same 'maybe?' class I put all unitarians into.
Also I think the more salient argument against Hoover's Waspyness is that he was a self-made man of relatively humble origins.
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>>18509926
America peaked when the population was pan-European and third world migration had yet to become significant so that seems to be the best balance
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>>18507941 (OP)
Fuck off prot
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Italians really didn't assimilate at all though. I went to school with a bunch of them and while they were all outgoing and social, most were dumb as dirt and few ever got into STEM subjects, most filled up on art, cooking, drama, etc.

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When did you realize that the Romans were right?
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>>18513278 (OP)

>When did you realize that the Romans were right?


THAT THEY WERE RIGHT IN ACCEPTING THE CHRIST IN THEIR HEARTS, LETTING THE LOGOS RENOVATE THEIR MINDS?

I NEVER REALIZED IT: I RECOGNIZED IT.
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>>18513327
Jesus included travel time and rest stops when he said "I'll be back in 3"
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>>18513278 (OP)
This shit didn't even happen
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>>18513278 (OP)
Persia > Rome
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>>18513278 (OP)
Jesus probably never even existed, there are no contemporary sources attesting him


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