dj physical therapist wants you to put your hands in the air !!!! now slowly lower them !!!!! now repeat 8-10 times !!!!! stretch those muscles !!!!
Love how ART calls Murdrbot exclusively by its official designation but Muderbot doesn’t even tell us what ART’s official name is until book 5, and then only because it’s plot relevant.
"I had not touched a cat in 15 years when an orange kitten wandered over to sit with me in the grass one day. I was left without adequate words to describe that experience. It reminded me that I am alive. It instilled in me a raw, unbridled happiness that I had never felt before, not even as a child.
I have spent many hours with those cats, and still I am amazed at how perfectly they reject everything it means to be in prison. They are playful and unselfconscious, curious and silly, soft and cuddly.
Sometimes it is even more interesting to watch my fellow prisoners interact with our cats. All those hard cases doing hard time melt like butter on a summer sidewalk when they visit the felines, feed them, watch them chase the birds and bees, and when they make toys to entice the cats to play with them.
I don’t think about the past when a cat hops in my lap. I don’t think of what I should or could have done. I don’t think about courts or life sentences or parole boards. What comes to mind is peace, and a sense that everything is going to be OK. What’s in the past needs to stay there if I want to have a future, if I want to be grateful for today and for the fact that I am no longer the person I once was.
The cats, of course, already know this. They are gracious enough to spend their time with us so that we might learn, and so that we can enjoy a few quiet moments of warmth, softness, non judgment, and freedom."
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cambriancrewReblogged derinthescarletpescatariankosmogrlFollowlet this be a reminder that even if it takes time your dreams can come true rabbitindisguisean astronaut foretold to go to the moon by a fortune cookie can be a kind of magical girl, I think purplepuma779update:3216,09338,584
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cambriancrewReblogged taibhsearachdplantnerderyalldayFollowAnnual deer post:If you see a fawn laying down on the ground all alone, leave it alone. It is not lost, it does not need your help, do not pick it up, do not move it. This behavior evolved to keep deer young safe. The baby is very small, very quiet, and hard for most predators to see. A young fawn cannot keep up with a fleeing mother deer, which is their primary problem-solving strategy. So while the mother goes elsewhere to graze, the fawn stays safe and hidden. The mom will be back. Leave the fawn alone.sea-salted-wolverineThis is always good to pass around this time of year, but I would like to add something for the few of us who might be encountering the moose kind of deer.Moose are deer, but moose have the opposite strategy. They stay close to their babies, and their primary response for anything getting close to their babies is immediate violent murder. If you do see a baby moose by itself, leave. Leave the baby alone and leave the area, preferably quickly. Momma is at most 30 yards away and has already kicked on the kill bill sirens. 3715,36016,288
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cambriancrewRebloggedqueen-mihaiFollowI FINALLY GOT MORE BOOKS!!!And I need to sell every last one of themOK so my website is down and I have to learn more coding in order to get my new one runningBut bills don't wait and the fridge will go empty while I'm typing unless I keep earning or being donated moneySo here's what I'll do!If you DM me your email address and which book(s) you want and I'll email you with the price details and shipping! I know it's a bit of a hassle so I'll cut you a breakI normally sell my books for €32 per copyFrom now until I get my website up and running, I'll sell them for €30 each and if you order both you'll get them for $50Anyone ordering from me will get a custom bookmark of my dragon Vulcarin, a character from Meet Annabella, and anyone getting both books will be getting a piece of art that I drew myself alongside your signed books!Anyone ordering from me gets the books sent directly from me. Like literally I'm physically bringing them to the postal service and sending them to you myself 🩷Now for those of you who want to support me but might not quite have enough money to buy books?Here you go:Buy Queen Mihai a CoffeeBecome a supporter of Queen Mihai today!Ko-fiAlso reminder, you can get Teran as a Displate!'Teran: The Dancing City' Poster, picture, metal print, paint by Queen Mihai | DisplateBeautiful 'Teran: The Dancing City' Poster Print by Queen Mihai ✓ Printed on Metal ✓ Easy Magnet Mounting ✓ Worldwide Shipping. Buy online aDisplategoth-princess-gwennieDO IT! PLEASE! 2814
cambriancrewRebloggedpluralaskingFollow💗 Welcome to Plural Asking! 🌷[pt : Welcome to Plural Asking! /end pt]A blog dedicated to asking daily questions to plurals. Now revived!Questions are about the following topics:- any experiences with plurality- about your plurality- about your headmates- about neurodivergency- about personal and collective opinions- and a lot of other stuffQuestions regarding Syscourse, Trauma or other triggering topics are not allowed - I want to keep this a positive and happy space where no one accidentally gets triggered.I do both polls and general questions and they'll be tagged accordingly.Questions can be as long or as short as you want - let them be general or really niche and detailed. If you're just curious about something or trying to find people with similar interests, everything is allowed.Polls are submitted with the answers the requester sends in. The only option I will add, if necessary, is a "not plural / see results" button. If heavily requested, I'll rerun polls with more answer options.If you want to answer a question anonymously, you can send it in via our inbox and, if you want, I'll post them for you.This blog has no DNI - who am I to gatekeep fun? Anyone from any stances on any online discourse can interact freely. Don't start anything under my posts though, please.The inbox is always open for suggestions, questions, polls, answers or anything else.321
cambriancrewRebloggedstarstruck-silliesFollowI feel like a lot of syscourse is just people believing that disagreement has to be inherently cruel. You can in fact disagree with someone without being shitty to them. You don't have to be mean about it, and not everyone that disagrees is going to be mean about it. Different opinions don't have to be an automatic threat. Can we please stop equating discomfort with cruelty-Toby924
cambriancrewRebloggedgqueercatboyFollowUrgent fundraising, still.Good news, bad news. Good news, our partner got together enough funds to get our babygirl kitty her ultrasound as our birthday present. Bad news, our appeal failed and our monthly check is getting cut until further notice.We still need $395 for the rest of the month, $100 of it by the 19th and $295 by the 27th. Our kofi is here, if anyone feels generous. 💙We're disabled and can't work. We need help to keep out of worse debt. $395 will keep our phone on (most of our doctor appts are televisit) and cover debts from our mother dying, our old man kitty dying, and our girls having unexpected health issues. Any help is greatly appreciated-- even just sharing. The more people see this, the better chance we have.Thank you.thelunastuscoSo, yeah... lost our appeal, which means our monthly income is going to be impacted in a very bad way, at least until we can get things figured out. Which does not help us this month. They weren't supposed to cut our payment this month, but they did anyways.We need help, especially with a $100 vet debt set to hit our account on the 19th. If there's any way you can share this, please do. We don't expect our followers to help-- it's a lot, and we know a lot of folks following us are also struggling. But shares at least get more eyes on it.At least, happy birthday us, we'll be able to see if our heart kitty has cancer or not. But we need access to our phone and to keep out of worse debt, and we lost over $300 this month due to gov bullshit.Thank you for any help/sharing. <3 We appreciate you. 168
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cambriancrewRebloggededucation-systemFollowReminder that the syscourse tag is a debate space. No one checks dnis because it is expected that anyone who posts there is ok with interaction from those who disagree. This is compounded by the number of times people accidentally add dnis they don't intend to syscourse posts. If you are insistent on people not responding at least put it in the post itself instead of the tags or a pinned for clarity and so people will naturally read it. Also if you are not looking for debate the tw syscourse, cw syscourse and no syscourse tags were made just for you. On tumblr tags are like communities with their own unspoken rules that everyone who uses them follows. For the syscourse tag one of those rules is that you must be willing to talk with those who disagree with you if you post in the tag. The people who utilize the tag don't want to see your vents that you complain about them interacting with. That is spam in this tag. Thank you for respecting the syscourse tag dni for people who use dnis as a shield to say whatever they want without correction when it is misinformation :)26
cambriancrewRebloggedsymphony-of-gaiaFollowI remain persistently flabbergasted at how much overlap we see between the experiences of endogenic and CDD systems, given how much of syscourse seems predicated on the idea that these are very different things that by pure happenstance we happen to use the same metaphor to represent.ALTKeep reading128
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cambriancrewRebloggedsyscoursefrogFollowIt really gets on my nerves, how so many anti-endos insist on misunderstanding and misrepresenting endogenic systems. It really goes to show how unfounded their beliefs are. if your argument depends on distortions, you're part of the problem.317
cambriancrewReblogged mackerelgrayderinthescarletpescatarianFollowFun fact about me is that I'm stupid.derinthescarletpescatarianWhen I was a child (maybe six years old?) I asked my parents what thoughts were, and they told me "they're the pictures in your head". I agreed like this explained things, but unknown to all of us, I have aphantasia, and since I never had pictures in my head I secretly concluded that I was incapable of thought. The way people talked about thinking made it sound really important, so I went for literal years carefully guarding this secret and when people told me to think about what I was doing etc. I'd stay quiet and pretend I was capable of thinking. I didn't want anyone to find out I couldn't think.derinthescarletpescatarianWhen I was about eight, my mother's horse ate sand and got colic and she was up all night with him. The next day, I was told that he went to live on a nice farm.I was in my thirties before I thought back to the situation and realised that Zamada had died.derinthescarletpescatarianI was literally too stupid to punish as a child. I have a lot of very clear memories of being sent to sit in a corner or told to stay in a class at recess and my opinion of the situation was 'I guess this is my role in whatever the current school activity is'. It wasn't until I was in high school that I realised that I'd spent so much time in reception and year 1 in time out or detention. Did not even register that that was happening at the time.derinthescarletpescatarianI used to have a very strong fear of snakes and when I was a little kid I was, for some reason, under the impression that the snakes had some kind of secret conspiracy where they wanted to kill me. We had frequent power outages (I'm unsure if it was the area's infrastructure or if my parents just couldn't keep up with the electricity bills) and every time the power went out at night I'd jump up on a chair or table or something and refuse to come down until I had light, because I believed that snakes had bitten through the power cables and were swarming across the floor in the dark ready to bite me while I couldn't see them.derinthescarletpescatarianI thought that Jesus was just a guy who obtained magical powers by being born on Christmas Day and decided to use his powers to help people. Like a superhero. I didn't know anything about superheroes at the time so when I later learned about Superman and Batman and stuff I was like "oh, like Jesus Christ!"derinthescarletpescatarianMy great grandmother was also born on Christmas day and I could never understand why she either didn't have magic powers, or did but kept lying to me about it.derinthescarletpescatarian#read this whole post out to my girlfriend and she went 'these are all different people right'Okay listen,derinthescarletpescatarian#showed this post to my mom when it was just the first two updates#and then again after the “yes I have autism” update#she read through the whole thing and then scrolled through it twice#growing increasingly confused until she asked me “this is all the same person????”Everyone's loved ones are so confused by my individualityderinthescarletpescatarian#my favourite one is op not understanding time out and thinking it was their part of their role😭😭#like sometimes u just get sent to sit facing the corner idk why its just something u have to doI never knew what was happening in school and this was no exceptionlilacblossomsDerin have you seen Hannah Gadsby's comedy special Douglas? It's incredibly funny but there's specifically a bit about being an autistic child in school that you might enjoy.derinthescarletpescatarianIs it the bit with the box because that's the most relatable school experience everecrivainsolitaireI love how we all know about Preposition Penguin derinthescarletpescatarianBecause we've all been there814,5557,118
cambriancrewReblogged creatingblackcharactersk1ntsug1-r0b0t-g1rlFollowa surprising number of people see the term "social construct" and think that it means something is not real when it actually means something is so very real because it was created by us and is constantly enforced, often violently k1ntsug1-r0b0t-g1rl1811,75116,456
cambriancrewRebloggeddevs-of-sysblrFollowcalling all system app/website developers & coders ! for those who answered "it depends", please elaborate ! 412
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cambriancrewIt's kinda weird to me that some people can be like, "You know, I like being plural, it's really beneficial for our shared life" and some other people can be like "Nooo being a system is Hard and Suffering... But also don't you dare suggest that systems can never have positivity in their life"I think really the only solution to that is time and healing, paired with kindness and compassion. We've seen that solution work many times before. And I'm okay with being patient. #Syscourse#Please note that the terms used in the example are very deliberate313
cambriancrewI'm still a little amused by the statement that medians are PDID erasure.For starters, PDID didn't exist as a diagnosis until the ICD-11 came out in May of 2019. Median was coined in the early 2000s, more than a decade before PDID.Also while people with PDID can identify as median, there's more to being median than PDID type experiences. PDID is when there's one main person and they have dissociative intrusions from other people in their system. Many medians - including us Willows - don't have a core person like that.Being median is also not an endogenic thing. It has nothing to do with origin or diagnostic status, and everything to do with system topology. It just means there's less than total identity separation between headmates. Some medians view their system as being parts or facets of the same overall person, the same person at different ages, and other similar experiences. Those experiences used to not be considered Multiple, back in the online multiplicity community in the 90s and early 2000s, hence the coining of the term Plural. Many medians are PDID and OSDD-1 systems. It's not "erasure" it's just a different kind of term for a particular aspect of the experience. #Syscourse#Median systems#Actually median#magicallymedian211
cambriancrewJust thinking about all our many-folks friends we have and I think it's interesting how the more open we are about being a plural system, the more plurals and plural-adjacent people we meet in the randomest of places. :) 6
cambriancrewRebloggedanti-willo-eleanorFollowI wonder if pro-endo (and diagnosed) systems know the meaning behind their own movement. That it started as a mockery.Probably not.anti-willo-eleanorSomeone in the comments asked for proof, and I decided to also reblog my reply.DID/OSDD were first introduced as Multiple Personality Disorder and popularized in 1975, later renamed in the 1990s. [In 1994, the fourth edition of the DSM replaced the criteria again and changed the name of the condition from "multiple personality disorder" to the current "dissociative identity disorder" to emphasize the importance of changes to consciousness and identity rather than personality. - Wikipedia.]Even with sociocognitive theory (researched by figures such as Nicholas Spanos and Elizabeth Loftus) with the idea that DID can be shaped by suggestion, therapy, and cultural narratives, it does not mean dissociative properties can naturally form with no reason. (Why willogenics are invalid/unsupported by clinical evidence.)There is no academic paper prior to 2010 using endogenic as a term to describe formations of systems, and no current case studies to support the idea of endogenic systems. DID and OSDD are simply deeply rooted in disassociation theory, and are medically recognized by the DSM-5. Endogenic “systems” only appear in popular subcultures and the internet. The term comes from oral and internet history, rather than true research by scientists that is also peer reviewed. Professionals would not classify endogenic as an appropriate/official system type, since it does not fall under dissociative internal experiences or complex dissociative disorders. It’s much closer to imagination and identity constructs, not an official CDD. The term also originates from spaces that were pushing back against medical/psychological frameworks. Reframing the disorder as an identity ignores the fact that CDDs are officially recognized disorders and starts the ground for misinformation - ignoring the fact that their term throws aside a condition that requires clinical explanation and is still debated among medical professionals, despite CDDs being recorded all the way in the 19th century.cambriancrew"Endogenic" is a community made term, but there's been nontraumagenic systems going back to the 1970s - famous multiple Chris Costner Sizemore always insisted her multiplicity predated her trauma.With the advent of the internet and online communities, nontraumagenic systems were included in multiplicity groups going back to the days of mailing lists and usenet groups - they're mentioned briefly in the FAQ for the usenet group alt.support.dissociation which was written in the mid 1990s.In the early 2000s, "plural" as a term was coined, separate from the term "multiple", to include people who were many but didn't have DID. There's some interesting info on it on the Vickis site here.Plural eventually came to be an inclusive term for multiples and medians - medians being systems where the members are less distinct or less separate.Then there was the natural multiplicity movement starting in the early 2000s. It was a problematic movement in that it insisted that all true multiplicity is a natural neurodivergence (though this was prior to the coining of ND terms) but the term "natural multiplicity" is what endogenics were called, until The Lunastus Collective, a trauma-based CDD system, coined endogenic about ten years ago.There still is quite a lot of research and scientific support for nontraumagenic plurality. Guardians System, a trauma-based CDD system, has compiled a ton of it in their doc here. I highly recommend looking into it, there's so much there to see! anti-willo-eleanorDid you not read the entire post or do you just like breaking DNIs. Medians are PDID erasure. Plurality is not dissociative, it is identity and imagination based.You are also ignoring the fact that OSDD and other CDDs exist, which is a very real possibility that traumagenic systems could have. Until clinical trials and proper studies are conducted, endogenic labels (stressgenic, willogenic, etc) are not considered real ways for CDDs to develop.Now, with the document.1st source - A discussion rather than a scientific journal with no new data supporting its arguments. It is peer reviewed but not an actual study.2nd source - Not academic in the slightest. Made by an instructor rather than actual researchers. It is a lesson rather than actual research. No DOI, journal, or peer review involved.3rd source - Someone’s personal opinion and not a scientific resource. They have a PhD, but that does not mean it is automatically verifiable. You wouldn’t ask a biologist about chemistry.4th source - an archive of a forum that could be edited by anyone. Not affiliated with universities or journals. 5th source - this one is a bit more valid, but it is not psychiatric based or not a diagnostic or clinical research. it’s lived experience and social research rather than medical authority and qualitative rather than quantitative. IT IS NOT STUDYING ENDOGENICS, RATHER CDDs. “ Zarah Eve and Sarah Parry outline the findings of a consultation conducted with young people with multiplicity, a largely misunderstood community. Young people who experience having multiple identities may be diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) or Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) which are treated under mental health services. Eve and Parry argue that the lived experience of young people with multiplicity has been neglected in research and practice, with their voices often unheard and their treatment often unsuitable. They conclude that the voices and experiences of young people with multiplicity need to be carefully considered and centred in further research. “6th source - supports discussions rather than medical validation. it asks for more research to be done on the topic. it is constructivist social model building on experience. participants self report, which creates a possibility of confirmation/self bias.7th source - lived experience. systematic review and still no clinical validation of endogenic systems8th source - co-produced / voluntary participatory study using community participants. it is not a research paper on endogenics - it is a paper on how participants look at materials and how useful they find psychoeducational materials. it is not studying the concept of endogenics at all. 9th source - also not studying endogenic systems, rather how transgender people and systems intersect. no evidence for or against CDDs.10th source - same as 9th.11th source - focus on YouTube channels, media analysis, community language. it shows how people present online.12th source - a dissertation done for someone’s PhD. written before modern consensus on disassociation (1995) ; these traits that are studied are also consistent with other things, such as anxiety disorders, moods, attention fragmentation. it isn’t even evidence for endogenic systems as a category.13th source - non peer reviewed source and published by a trade publisher (Little, Brown). secondary synthesis book for general audiences rather than proper research.14th source - discusses sociocognitive model, which i mentioned in the original reply. six clinical interviews and case vignettes rather than statistical analysis. psychiatric categories may be dimensional and overlapping in presentation. The rest are tulpamancy based sources. I will not discuss those since those take stereotypes from the Tibetan practice of Tulpas. Academics also treat tulpamancy as a cultural and online identity, and not true CDDs. Please also note point D in the DSM-5’s diagnostic criteria for DID. Overall, the document you provided to me does not prove anything about endogenic systems medical wise, and rather frames them as a social phenomenon.cambriancrewThere's no DNI in the post, nor your blog description, nor any pinned post so you can't expect people to follow one.PDID is a new diagnosis as of the ICD-11. Median systems are not erasing anything, especially not a diagnosis *that didn't even exist when it was coined.*If you're going to criticize a group, you should at least know the basis of what that group is, and you didn't, so I gave information and links. Ig you're not willing to be corrected on misinformation about endogenics, you should not post in the syscourse tag as it's explicitly a tag for discussion from all sides. If you want it for filtering purposes, there's #cw syscourse and #tw syscourse. anti-willo-eleanorNo response to my analysis. Alright. Thank you.cambriancrewIt feels to me like you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of what endogenics are.We're not saying we have CDDs without trauma.We're saying we have the experience of being many self-willed entities in the same body and brain, and that this is not any CDD* — not DID, OSDD-1, PDID, or UDD. Of course this is going to be studied in the fields of sociology and anthropology - it's not a mental illness, so why would it be studied as one? (Yes there are endogenics with CDDs - but those are from trauma unrelated to the initial origin of their plural selves experience.)While the term "tulpa" can be viewed as problematic (though actual Tibetan Buddhists are divided in whether that's the case since the practice is nothing like what is done in Tibetan Buddhist practices, and can and often is done without being aware of the terms or community at all) the tulpa community is the subset of the endogenic community that has the most scientific studies on it, including an FMRI study that we participated in that's in the process of being published. I just emailed Dr. Michael Lifshitz, a professor at McGill University who has a doctorate in neuroscience, who conducted the study alongside Dr. Tanya Lurhmann, a world renowned anthropologist, to see if there's any updates on it being published. 760204
cambriancrewAnonymous asked:Really enjoying reading through some of the sources about endos you linked on someone's post today. Have any other studies/papers/etc about plurality that you enjoy or find interesting? About endogenics or other plurality. It hasn't been published yet but we're VERY looking forward to the results of the tulpa FMRI study that we participated in several years ago. (Covid interrupted testing :/)The test was geared towards figuring out if tulpas talking differs from a host imagining someone talking, or the host talking to themselves. Also if imagining someone guiding your hand differed from possession. And yep, there definitely is a difference!It's a far ways from solid proof that endogenics as a whole are plural, but it's at least proof that it's not the same as just imagining: something else is happening. And on plurality - in the AMA linked above, Dr. Michael Lifshitz explains why we can't prove that anyway, because to do so you'd have to define what a person is and that's a philosophical question, not a psychological one. But you can prove that different agents in the brain have different effects - and co-fronting definitely does show that.There's also this lecture Dr. Lifshitz did that discusses parts of the study. And this video. I'm going to email Michael and see if there's any updates on getting the paper published. 😊 #syscourse#Tulpa fmri study210
cambriancrewRebloggedanti-willo-eleanorFollowI wonder if pro-endo (and diagnosed) systems know the meaning behind their own movement. That it started as a mockery.Probably not.anti-willo-eleanorSomeone in the comments asked for proof, and I decided to also reblog my reply.DID/OSDD were first introduced as Multiple Personality Disorder and popularized in 1975, later renamed in the 1990s. [In 1994, the fourth edition of the DSM replaced the criteria again and changed the name of the condition from "multiple personality disorder" to the current "dissociative identity disorder" to emphasize the importance of changes to consciousness and identity rather than personality. - Wikipedia.]Even with sociocognitive theory (researched by figures such as Nicholas Spanos and Elizabeth Loftus) with the idea that DID can be shaped by suggestion, therapy, and cultural narratives, it does not mean dissociative properties can naturally form with no reason. (Why willogenics are invalid/unsupported by clinical evidence.)There is no academic paper prior to 2010 using endogenic as a term to describe formations of systems, and no current case studies to support the idea of endogenic systems. DID and OSDD are simply deeply rooted in disassociation theory, and are medically recognized by the DSM-5. Endogenic “systems” only appear in popular subcultures and the internet. The term comes from oral and internet history, rather than true research by scientists that is also peer reviewed. Professionals would not classify endogenic as an appropriate/official system type, since it does not fall under dissociative internal experiences or complex dissociative disorders. It’s much closer to imagination and identity constructs, not an official CDD. The term also originates from spaces that were pushing back against medical/psychological frameworks. Reframing the disorder as an identity ignores the fact that CDDs are officially recognized disorders and starts the ground for misinformation - ignoring the fact that their term throws aside a condition that requires clinical explanation and is still debated among medical professionals, despite CDDs being recorded all the way in the 19th century.cambriancrew"Endogenic" is a community made term, but there's been nontraumagenic systems going back to the 1970s - famous multiple Chris Costner Sizemore always insisted her multiplicity predated her trauma.With the advent of the internet and online communities, nontraumagenic systems were included in multiplicity groups going back to the days of mailing lists and usenet groups - they're mentioned briefly in the FAQ for the usenet group alt.support.dissociation which was written in the mid 1990s.In the early 2000s, "plural" as a term was coined, separate from the term "multiple", to include people who were many but didn't have DID. There's some interesting info on it on the Vickis site here.Plural eventually came to be an inclusive term for multiples and medians - medians being systems where the members are less distinct or less separate.Then there was the natural multiplicity movement starting in the early 2000s. It was a problematic movement in that it insisted that all true multiplicity is a natural neurodivergence (though this was prior to the coining of ND terms) but the term "natural multiplicity" is what endogenics were called, until The Lunastus Collective, a trauma-based CDD system, coined endogenic about ten years ago.There still is quite a lot of research and scientific support for nontraumagenic plurality. Guardians System, a trauma-based CDD system, has compiled a ton of it in their doc here. I highly recommend looking into it, there's so much there to see! anti-willo-eleanorDid you not read the entire post or do you just like breaking DNIs. Medians are PDID erasure. Plurality is not dissociative, it is identity and imagination based.You are also ignoring the fact that OSDD and other CDDs exist, which is a very real possibility that traumagenic systems could have. Until clinical trials and proper studies are conducted, endogenic labels (stressgenic, willogenic, etc) are not considered real ways for CDDs to develop.Now, with the document.1st source - A discussion rather than a scientific journal with no new data supporting its arguments. It is peer reviewed but not an actual study.2nd source - Not academic in the slightest. Made by an instructor rather than actual researchers. It is a lesson rather than actual research. No DOI, journal, or peer review involved.3rd source - Someone’s personal opinion and not a scientific resource. They have a PhD, but that does not mean it is automatically verifiable. You wouldn’t ask a biologist about chemistry.4th source - an archive of a forum that could be edited by anyone. Not affiliated with universities or journals. 5th source - this one is a bit more valid, but it is not psychiatric based or not a diagnostic or clinical research. it’s lived experience and social research rather than medical authority and qualitative rather than quantitative. IT IS NOT STUDYING ENDOGENICS, RATHER CDDs. “ Zarah Eve and Sarah Parry outline the findings of a consultation conducted with young people with multiplicity, a largely misunderstood community. Young people who experience having multiple identities may be diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) or Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) which are treated under mental health services. Eve and Parry argue that the lived experience of young people with multiplicity has been neglected in research and practice, with their voices often unheard and their treatment often unsuitable. They conclude that the voices and experiences of young people with multiplicity need to be carefully considered and centred in further research. “6th source - supports discussions rather than medical validation. it asks for more research to be done on the topic. it is constructivist social model building on experience. participants self report, which creates a possibility of confirmation/self bias.7th source - lived experience. systematic review and still no clinical validation of endogenic systems8th source - co-produced / voluntary participatory study using community participants. it is not a research paper on endogenics - it is a paper on how participants look at materials and how useful they find psychoeducational materials. it is not studying the concept of endogenics at all. 9th source - also not studying endogenic systems, rather how transgender people and systems intersect. no evidence for or against CDDs.10th source - same as 9th.11th source - focus on YouTube channels, media analysis, community language. it shows how people present online.12th source - a dissertation done for someone’s PhD. written before modern consensus on disassociation (1995) ; these traits that are studied are also consistent with other things, such as anxiety disorders, moods, attention fragmentation. it isn’t even evidence for endogenic systems as a category.13th source - non peer reviewed source and published by a trade publisher (Little, Brown). secondary synthesis book for general audiences rather than proper research.14th source - discusses sociocognitive model, which i mentioned in the original reply. six clinical interviews and case vignettes rather than statistical analysis. psychiatric categories may be dimensional and overlapping in presentation. The rest are tulpamancy based sources. I will not discuss those since those take stereotypes from the Tibetan practice of Tulpas. Academics also treat tulpamancy as a cultural and online identity, and not true CDDs. Please also note point D in the DSM-5’s diagnostic criteria for DID. Overall, the document you provided to me does not prove anything about endogenic systems medical wise, and rather frames them as a social phenomenon.cambriancrewThere's no DNI in the post, nor your blog description, nor any pinned post so you can't expect people to follow one.PDID is a new diagnosis as of the ICD-11. Median systems are not erasing anything, especially not a diagnosis *that didn't even exist when it was coined.*If you're going to criticize a group, you should at least know the basis of what that group is, and you didn't, so I gave information and links. Ig you're not willing to be corrected on misinformation about endogenics, you should not post in the syscourse tag as it's explicitly a tag for discussion from all sides. If you want it for filtering purposes, there's #cw syscourse and #tw syscourse. 760204
cambriancrewRebloggedanti-willo-eleanorFollowI wonder if pro-endo (and diagnosed) systems know the meaning behind their own movement. That it started as a mockery.Probably not.anti-willo-eleanorSomeone in the comments asked for proof, and I decided to also reblog my reply.DID/OSDD were first introduced as Multiple Personality Disorder and popularized in 1975, later renamed in the 1990s. [In 1994, the fourth edition of the DSM replaced the criteria again and changed the name of the condition from "multiple personality disorder" to the current "dissociative identity disorder" to emphasize the importance of changes to consciousness and identity rather than personality. - Wikipedia.]Even with sociocognitive theory (researched by figures such as Nicholas Spanos and Elizabeth Loftus) with the idea that DID can be shaped by suggestion, therapy, and cultural narratives, it does not mean dissociative properties can naturally form with no reason. (Why willogenics are invalid/unsupported by clinical evidence.)There is no academic paper prior to 2010 using endogenic as a term to describe formations of systems, and no current case studies to support the idea of endogenic systems. DID and OSDD are simply deeply rooted in disassociation theory, and are medically recognized by the DSM-5. Endogenic “systems” only appear in popular subcultures and the internet. The term comes from oral and internet history, rather than true research by scientists that is also peer reviewed. Professionals would not classify endogenic as an appropriate/official system type, since it does not fall under dissociative internal experiences or complex dissociative disorders. It’s much closer to imagination and identity constructs, not an official CDD. The term also originates from spaces that were pushing back against medical/psychological frameworks. Reframing the disorder as an identity ignores the fact that CDDs are officially recognized disorders and starts the ground for misinformation - ignoring the fact that their term throws aside a condition that requires clinical explanation and is still debated among medical professionals, despite CDDs being recorded all the way in the 19th century.cambriancrew"Endogenic" is a community made term, but there's been nontraumagenic systems going back to the 1970s - famous multiple Chris Costner Sizemore always insisted her multiplicity predated her trauma.With the advent of the internet and online communities, nontraumagenic systems were included in multiplicity groups going back to the days of mailing lists and usenet groups - they're mentioned briefly in the FAQ for the usenet group alt.support.dissociation which was written in the mid 1990s.In the early 2000s, "plural" as a term was coined, separate from the term "multiple", to include people who were many but didn't have DID. There's some interesting info on it on the Vickis site here.Plural eventually came to be an inclusive term for multiples and medians - medians being systems where the members are less distinct or less separate.Then there was the natural multiplicity movement starting in the early 2000s. It was a problematic movement in that it insisted that all true multiplicity is a natural neurodivergence (though this was prior to the coining of ND terms) but the term "natural multiplicity" is what endogenics were called, until The Lunastus Collective, a trauma-based CDD system, coined endogenic about ten years ago.There still is quite a lot of research and scientific support for nontraumagenic plurality. Guardians System, a trauma-based CDD system, has compiled a ton of it in their doc here. I highly recommend looking into it, there's so much there to see! #Syscourse760204
cambriancrewAnonymous asked:that anti endo is 17, bro we're almost 26 which adult are you planning to tell exactly 😭@seascourse-sidecourse (it's seaside we rebranded to a syscourse only blog to separate this from our system blog 🙂↕️)Most of the endogenics we know are pretty solidly adults.I think the thing that gets me about all this is they're 17 telling people with college degrees in this field that they're stupid. Which isn't to say of course that a college degree means you're always right. But it is a sign that you've done more research at a higher level than what someone still in high school has. #syscourse7
cambriancrewI think it's funny when people are like "it's harmful to force yourself to dissociate" when like. Our biggest obsession is reading. We literally sit for hours at a time staring at ink on paper and dissociating into a different world. And it's beneficial to do that. Not only is a great destressor, it increases our vocabulary, ups our ability to concentrate, broadens our understanding of different people and different cultures and different subjects (we read nonfiction too!) and, of course, increases our ability to imagine.Which we then transfer into writing where we get other people to read our stuff and dissociate.We don't read quite as much as we used to - we were on a pretty steady diet of ten books a week for most of our life — but we're still reading a few dozen books a year. Outside of reading, one of the most beneficial mental health things we've ever done is dissociate from our intrusive thoughts. It takes away a LOT of their power to disturb us, when we're keen on the understanding that they're not Me thinking that, that's just the survival part of our brain making sure we really know we'd never do the thing it's thinking about.And then there's modalities of therapy that deal with the internal dissociation everyone has and especially traumatized people have. Internal Family Systems therapy for everyone, and CPTSD parts therapy, for instance. And, lastly, our one trauma-based willogenic split: during a really severe depression episode, where the self directed hate and anger were up to incredibly dangerous levels, we Willows forcibly ejected Crystal's hate and anger out of her and shoved that piece of her as far back in our innerworld as we could. That literally saved our life. And we worked with that piece, who now goes by Angel, and helped her grow and heal and she eventually reintegrated. (Mostly. She pops her head out individually every now and then to say Hi.) That dissociation was IMMENSELY helpful, not just for the immediate crisis but for digging down into the roots of why she held all that emotion and we took a good look at the negative thought patterns that strengthened those emotions and worked to undo those, with compassion and solid reasoning.So no. Dissociation isn't this terrible awful thing to always avoid forever and ever. #syscourse10
cambriancrewSomething something anti-endo, something something "i will find you and tell an adult in your life"Pal, I AM the adult in my life. 😂Endogenics aren't this monolith of teenagers. A lot of us have been plural for decades. Many have been in the plural community for decades. (See example: Us, over a decade). We've been plural almost forty years. We literally don't know how to NOT be plural. It'd be easier to unlearn how to read and write our native language (English.) Our partner of over a decade knows all about our plurality — and can even clock switches before we tell him. Our friends and family know. Our coworkers know. When we were in therapy, our therapy team knew. There's no one you could tell that would negatively affect our life. #syscourse319
cambriancrewRebloggedscammers-and-scotchFollowOkay, so, I see endos all the time defending their systems by saying it's "beneficial" or "good for them", and I think... How? How is it good for you? Cause it's a trauma disorder. You saying your "non-disordered system" is good for you is like saying your "non-trauma based stress disorder" is good for you. And what good is stress? Like, what's next? You guys sound EXACTLY like the people who are like "vaccines cause autism!!!" with all those fuckass system origins too. What the fuck do you mean your system was caused by William Afton? He's not even real. Did you play FNaF at five and get jumpscared into a coma? Like, christ. You people scare me. Anyways, aside from that, I just don't understand endos. DID has been, and will always be, a trauma based disorder. You're not gonna change that by pretending you're a system. Also, if you come into my blog being a little bitch, I WILL find out information about you and tell one of the adults in your life. Don't even play with me.Also, dissociation is a trauma response in itself. Even not having a CDD, dissociation is a trauma response. You can't dissociate without being in extreme pain, under extreme stress, or a traumatic situation. Yeah, lots of people have different emotional tolerance, so some people dissociate from smaller things. Still, dissociation is an exact response to TRAUMA AND STRESS. To be a system is to dissociate, and you literally can't dissociate without trauma. So, endos are not valid. And I swear to GOD, if anyone is in my comments going "well, I am under extreme stress/in extreme pain all the time and I'm an endogenic system!!!" I'm going to crash out because for the LOVE OF GOD, you are traumagenic if you ACTUALLY DISSOCIATE. Dissociation is a TRAUMA RESPONSE. You are most likely TRAUMAGENIC AND UNABLE TO REMEMBER THE TRAUMA. Because that's LITERALLY THE POINT OF DID. TO NOT REMEMBER THE TRAUMA.Anyways. Sorry. Needed to talk about this. Syscourse in the comments is okay, just be respectful please.- Zae , TojicambriancrewHere's an explanation of how it's beneficial, just for us.We don't have general dissociation issues, or memory issues. There's just, This is Me, and there's This is Not Me, kind of dissociation - it's not distressing or dysfunction causing, it's just a kind of categorizing which of us a thought, feeling, memory, or action belongs to. For about half our day every day, the people fronting are us Willows, the originals in our system. We live in constant dialogue with each other - every thought by one of us is an opportunity for one or another of us to chime in with our own thoughts.And while we are median, we're separate enough and distinct enough to have our own strengths (and, of course, weaknesses as well.) I, Shiloh Willow, am taking point on this post, but a lot of the exact wording is coming from Crystal Willow who's better at words than I am.In our daily life, Crystal is our learner. She's the one who studies writing and programming and memorizing new policies and procedures at work. She's also insanely curious about everything, so if we're bored she's likely to look up something random on Wikipedia and suddenly we know a lot more facts about that something. So obviously, when she's the one of us that's in charge, that's helpful.I, Shiloh, am much more comfortable being bored than any of the others, and I'm also the one that's least concerned with being "right" and more concerned with understanding. This has helped us a lot in syscourse, which we feel we're best at when we're just trying to understand and be understood - Crystal tends to get argumentative, and that's not helpful.The others of us also have strengths that help us in our daily life. And it's not just that we have different strengths - we, especially those of us who aren't one of us originals, have very different perspectives and that helps us as a whole be more broad minded and understanding.Beyond that, it's really nice to be able to have a break from life. About 4-6 hours a day, one of the nonWillows fronts and we Willows rest in our innerworld. We come back refreshed and recharged, and our life responsibilities that came up in that time frame have been handled. And of course, whoever was fronting during that time enjoys that time, and likes getting to work on their own hobbies or talk to their own friends etc. And then the rest of our day - the part of our day that's not just us Willows or just one of the nonWillows - we're fronting together with us Willows and at least one or two of the others. And we have a good time together - we have a lot of mental games we play to pass the time when bored, we work on our job or hobbies together, or we just chat and hang out while going through daily life stuff. We're not all best friends - some of us have more a coworker kind of relationship - but we do all get along.We also have two different types of synesthesia, and one of those is mirror touch synesthesia: we literally feel what we see or visualize. This quirk of our mental wiring is easily hijacked by our system. For instance, Varyn can envision himself being a bird on our shoulder and lean up against our cheek, and we literally feel his little toes grip our shoulder and the weight and warmth of him against our cheek, and that's a really good feeling.Our life is far from sunshine and roses — we're multiply disabled and financially broke — but our plurality is definitely a bright spot in our life. Hope this explanation helps! #Syscourse581527
cambriancrewRebloggedcambriancrewFollowIt's kinda marvelous to think that something our ex couldn't understand as being "part of God's reality" is, for us, so fundamental to our understanding of Them.We Willows are a median system. Four people who are also one person.The God we believe in is three persons who are also one person.We're also made in Their image. Which means that, to us, our plurality brings us closer to Them: we're plural in almost the same way They're plural.Plurality in general, and ours in particular, is inherently part of God's reality and we think that's super awesome and we're a little sad that our ex never got to learn about that part of our plurality. We were too scared then to tell him about our medianity.But we're brave now and that bravery is freeing and marvelous. cambriancrewAlso like. There's some neat theology that the worst part of the Crucifixion is that for the first and only time in His life, Jesus was cut off from the rest of the Godhead.We Willows have never been apart, not even for a minute. The idea of one of us being cut off from the rest is absolutely TERRIFYING. So we understand that part, at least in theory, in a way that I don't think singlets quite understand. 27
