Addenum to my @LAS talk!
I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.
And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.
All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.
I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social
I see the slides in the talk make repeated mention of creating systemd services. What does this mean for distros that use flatpak but don't have systemd?
@2something @LAS I don't know, ask them?
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social
I'm asking for clarification: Will Flatpak Next/Flatpak 2 depend on systemd?
@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@hazel @2something @LAS Because it doesn't matter. What problem are you reying to solve? This is a solved problem and is best practice everywhere.
And if you don't use it why do you care?
does the fact that a bunch of distros that flatpak officially supports will be dropped in the future not matter though?
i believe that choice is good. saying that alternatives dont matter because most people use systemd is the same thing as saying that people shouldnt try linux because most people use windows or macos. just because something is used by most people doesnt make it The Only Choice any reasonable person should pick.
I'm genuinely trying to find why it's been chosen to have a requirement on systemd. what does it bring to flatpak?
@hazel @2something @LAS Who says anything about being dropped? What are you on about.
Who is saying that this is a requirement? Do you have a link?
@hazel @2something @LAS What problem are you trying to solve?
@hazel @2something @LAS No one is stopping you from doing any of those things. Why is this my problem?
@hazel Who do you think I am? I didn't make a technical decision I am pointing out the obvious. Do you think one random dude just makes up rules in open source?
@hazel The people who show up to do the work.
im just trying to know why a decision was taken, do you have a github issue link, a group chat, anything??? we cant be for real right now @hazel How would I know that? You keep acting like I am in some position of authority.
I'm just telling you how it is lol.
hachyderm.io/@jorge/116619028047490652
this page flatpak.org/setup/ lists a bunch of distros. some of them straight up dont support systemd. by depending on systemd, flatpak would cease working on these distros, correct?
Right. Everyone knows this already. We're talking about modern linux desktops - the audience is the LAS audience. I'm not talking to you.
also, i dont know what even is the point about the audience. the context of the discussion was completely changed by 2something, we might as well talk on another thread. we can talk through dms, although i doubt it'd be very productive given our exchanges so far.
@hazel None of your argument makes sense to me. Is it so hard to understand that people prefer to use linux without being bothered by people like you? Why do you care.
It's my computer. Do what you want to your computer.