{"posts":[{"no":534937062,"closed":1,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:08:20","name":"Anonymous","sub":"TRVTH NVKE","com":">The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his 'natural superiors,' and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, callous 'cash payment.' It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom\u2014Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.<\/span>

>The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.<\/span>

>The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.<\/span>","filename":"manifesto","ext":".jpg","w":520,"h":804,"tn_w":161,"tn_h":249,"tim":1778591300513715,"time":1778591300,"md5":"uuUM4ky5f3ySMm\/JZ8HK5w==","fsize":85288,"resto":0,"country":"US","archived":1,"bumplimit":1,"archived_on":1778618225,"imagelimit":0,"semantic_url":"trvth-nvke","country_name":"United States","replies":313,"images":32,"tail_size":50},{"no":534937680,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:21:34","name":"Anonymous","com":">people expect to paid for their labor<\/span>
>some people wage<\/span>
>so capitalism is bad<\/span>
>please give your wealth to the Politburo to be "redustributed" please thx<\/span>
Leftceldom is a hell of a drug.","time":1778592094,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534937786,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:23:37","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937680<\/a>
When you smoke Prager U and shoot up based furries for Trump, everything else will seem like a drug","time":1778592217,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534937866,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:25:24","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937786<\/a>
>shit that doesn't happen<\/span>
Your "comrade" drives a Chaika while you take the bus.","time":1778592324,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534937990,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:27:56","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Marx really said that after a few hundred years of authoritarian socialist rule, the state will eventually just kinda go away

And you autists think that's remotely possible","time":1778592476,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938158,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:31:30","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937990<\/a>
Where did he say that?","time":1778592690,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938182,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:32:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937866<\/a>
If I have a job that is close by and his requires shifting destinations, I have no issue with this.","time":1778592721,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938255,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:33:54","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938158<\/a>
It's communism 101 that they are rightfully embarrassed over, so they never talk about it

https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Withering_away_of_the_state

https:\/\/www.marxists.org\/archive\/hardcastle\/1946\/wither_away.htm","time":1778592834,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938280,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:34:32","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938182<\/a>
So why does he get a Chaika while others get Ladas?","time":1778592872,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938292,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:34:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
>The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.<\/span>
this is caused by antifamily courts that kidnap children from their fathers","filename":"1778560205372634m","ext":".jpg","w":394,"h":1024,"tn_w":48,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778592886598575,"time":1778592886,"md5":"MYXe9LWzRPBrK8Zh\/QCd9A==","fsize":120372,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938323,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:35:28","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938158<\/a>
Communism is just anarchism but somehow even more retarded","time":1778592928,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938372,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:36:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
>The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation<\/span>","filename":"1774533994163605","ext":".jpg","w":782,"h":524,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":83,"tim":1778592999324617,"time":1778592999,"md5":"KFidhar1NAFP\/7M1IF+WYQ==","fsize":388828,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938380,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:36:53","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938255<\/a>
So nowhere

>>534938280<\/a>
Generally because he conducts business and discussions while driving","time":1778593013,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938401,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:37:12","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938292<\/a>
The communal ownership of children and the dissolution of the family is another thing leftcels don't like to talk about in 2026. If it helps to understand where this is coming from, Marx and Engels were both 6'3+ if you adjust for inflation, and both were wealthy and Engels was athletic.

Hope this helps everybody understand this better.","time":1778593032,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938461,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:38:26","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938380<\/a>
So are suggesting that ZiLs and Chaikas existed for purely utilitarian reasons? Why not have him ride in a soundproofed bus or truck then?","time":1778593106,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938468,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:38:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938401<\/a>
It means custody is decided by the local soviet of fellow workers.","time":1778593116,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938523,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:39:33","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938461<\/a>
Why something that big?","time":1778593173,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938554,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:40:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938380<\/a>
From Engels

> The first act by virtue of which the State really constitutes itself the representative of the whole of society \u2013 the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society \u2013 this is, at the same time, its last independent act as a State. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The State is not \u2018abolished.\u2019 It dies out.<\/span>

This is the gay nonsense YOU believe","time":1778593204,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938626,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:41:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938523<\/a>
It could be a van as well. I mean you're the one making excuses for obvious excesses of the nomenklatura.The later ZiLs were just as big as busses in terms of length.","time":1778593291,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938723,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:43:25","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938554<\/a>
>From Engels<\/span>

But you insisted and swore Marx wrote it. So let me see where before I talk about Engels. Just go make sure I am not talking with a clinically retarded drooling cocksucker who has never read a book in his life and gets his worldview from YouTube and wikipedia. Just to reassure me, I mean, I'm sure that's not the case","time":1778593405,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938763,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:44:11","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938468<\/a>
Yeah, but the production of those children isn't decided by democratic methods Engels himself made a distinction here. I wonder why?","time":1778593451,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938837,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:45:42","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938626<\/a>
I would not personally like the idea of receiving a visit from a government van on official business that wants me to get inside","time":1778593542,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938897,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:46:34","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
>>The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.<\/span>","filename":"1764888853126850","ext":".png","w":968,"h":1332,"tn_w":90,"tn_h":124,"tim":1778593594466465,"time":1778593594,"md5":"YdEaTn8I+EMoacQEmLtgYQ==","fsize":1119398,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","m_img":1,"country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938902,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:46:40","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938763<\/a>
I think you need more sleep","time":1778593600,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534938987,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:48:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938723<\/a>
My bad, it was Marx's co-author for his manifesto. Big difference there and my argument is vanquished.","time":1778593701,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534939073,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:49:42","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938723<\/a>
Apparently you are the drooling retard here
"Marx explains this question most thoroughly in his Critique of the Gotha Programme (letter to Bracke, May 5, 1875, which was not published until 1891 when it was printed in Neue Zeit, vol. IX, 1, and which has appeared in Russian in a special edition). The polemical part of this remarkable work, which contains a criticism of Lassalleanism, has, so to speak, overshadowed its positive part, namely, the analysis of the connection between the development of communism and the withering away of the state"","filename":"1778457459450875","ext":".png","w":600,"h":510,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":106,"tim":1778593782941949,"time":1778593782,"md5":"NcV00u2AXJpaayTQdEGrFw==","fsize":578616,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534939485,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)09:58:07","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938987<\/a>
Most of Marx's output wasn't his Manifesto which was requested by communists to state the goals and platform of communism--none of which have anything to do with what you're saying.

What Engels is saying is that a state for the working class owning all property for them, ultimately ceases to be a state. A state is a tool one class uses to subjugate another. When there is only one class, it gradually cease to function that way. To give an example, in Cuba, every worker in a community is trained how to use a gun, and each community has their own armory of firearms which community members can check out in order to bring order in cases of law enforcement. This is, so to speak, state law enforcement, but as you can see it is in a quite different sense than what we normally mean by state

>>534939073<\/a>
>it is explained in a place<\/span>

Yeah, clinical retarded cocksucker and pure non reader","time":1778594287,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534939676,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:01:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938837<\/a>
But you would if he was in a Volga, Chaika or ZiL? Why?","time":1778594507,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534939914,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:06:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938902<\/a>
>evades when pressed on a central tenant of his ideology<\/span>
Expected.

By the way, while this side conversation is going, could you explain to me why only higher level Party officials had access to western luxury goods and media?","time":1778594796,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940140,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:10:29","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534939676<\/a>
Because those generally aren't used to arrest or wiretap people","time":1778595029,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940261,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:12:38","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534939485<\/a>
>Has no argument<\/span>
This is why you lost and will keep losing tranny, zero academic ability to debate, just act like an angry third grader when you lack cognitive retorts","filename":"president-trump-3-497597982","ext":".jpg","w":1200,"h":675,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":70,"tim":1778595158882342,"time":1778595158,"md5":"ZEUiIwjI\/BLgn8OlvAHRzw==","fsize":88586,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","m_img":1,"country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940288,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:13:13","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940140<\/a>
>Volgas were not used to arrest you<\/span>","time":1778595193,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940301,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:13:32","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534939914<\/a>
>a central tenant<\/span>

A one-off paragraph from Engels is a central tenant? The Manifesto gives the central tenants


Parties can be corrupt, especially as their composition grows. That is precisely why Xi had been purging the CCP and trying to make workers its bread and butter and promote them to higher level management","time":1778595212,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940687,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:20:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940301<\/a>
The dissolution of the family is a central tenet of your ideology, and its a plank of the CM.
>parties can be corrupt<\/span>
Yes, which is why the state withering away is an embarrassing idea.
>Xi is purging the CCP<\/span>
When will the Chinese state dissolve?","time":1778595647,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940710,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:21:16","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940301<\/a>
>That is precisely why Xi had been purging the CCP and trying to make workers its bread and butter and promote them to higher level management<\/span>
Amazing anecdote from the psychic hotlines of the 90s Ms Cleo, but you clearly know fuck all of the internal politics and corruption of Chinese government
Living in mansions, drinking fine wine at every event with other rich party members and politicians, wearing nice suits and eating well, truly he represents the peak end goals of Communism and is just the average enjoyments and luxuries shared by all Chinese","filename":"Xi-Toast-2000x1334-698749999","ext":".jpg","w":2000,"h":1334,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":83,"tim":1778595676987579,"time":1778595676,"md5":"788dWb3RRuDxH7lbtOWhgw==","fsize":109598,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","m_img":1,"country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940849,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:23:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940687<\/a>
It's not a plank, in fact Marx says capitalism destroyed the family for the working class

You haven't read the CM which is why you keep on about a paragraph that isn't even a point in the CM or a single constitution of any Marxist party anywhere in the world, ever","time":1778595827,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940895,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:24:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940710<\/a>
I get my information about the CCP from The Economist which is hardly biased in their favor","time":1778595867,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534940949,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:25:23","name":"Anonymous","com":">il dat mandarin oranw fwosty wine? Yes mow pwease<\/span>
Lady servants, man servants, looks like Aristocracy of the Highest bourgeois levels, but according to one retard in thread, this is the opposite of corruption, and is the true face of a Marxist republic that represents the interests of even it's lowest proles","filename":"j-1631180654","ext":".jpg","w":710,"h":473,"tn_w":124,"tn_h":83,"tim":1778595923583380,"time":1778595923,"md5":"f0h89DwmrxbHwVY6LelGZQ==","fsize":102261,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941086,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:28:03","name":"Anonymous","com":"I am trying to find a pic of this man just drinking water, but nope, all fine wine and luxurious suits
I sure wish I was Chinese I didn't know communism was so good!","filename":"152c9780-d059-486b-964a-ad5edb5b6ade_0f590da2-1663147482","ext":".jpg","w":425,"h":425,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778596083811338,"time":1778596083,"md5":"GmrHOHzy2EruoxWXKEG3RA==","fsize":48188,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941170,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:29:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941086<\/a>
I drink wine too...","time":1778596187,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941270,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:31:37","name":"Anonymous","com":"Ah yes, Roe and Caviar, truly a common staple of even the poorest households in Marxist countries","filename":"_103381083_049211043-1-3213424471","ext":".jpg","w":976,"h":549,"tn_w":124,"tn_h":70,"tim":1778596297614954,"time":1778596297,"md5":"dV5ypl1NutxUfFctpGBgBg==","fsize":73084,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941371,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:33:10","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940849<\/a>
>Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.<\/span>

>On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution.<\/span>

>The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.<\/span>

>Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.<\/span>

>But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.<\/span>

>And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, &c.? The Communists have not invented the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.<\/span>

>The bourgeois clap-trap about the family and education, about the hallowed co-relation of parents and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour.<\/span>
>marxists.org\/archive\/marx\/works\/1848\/communist-manifesto\/ch02.htm<\/span>
>but anon, he is talking about the bourgeois family structure<\/span>
Aka traditional family.
>but we'll replace it with communal structures<\/span>
Hasn't happened in 100+ years of your ideology existence. Stalin had to undo some of the reforms brought in by Lenin in this area due to how fucked the USSR was getting.","time":1778596390,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941389,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:33:32","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941270<\/a>
I eat caviar too on special occasions and it'a certainly normal for diplomatic functions. Actually a lot cheaper than truffles.","time":1778596412,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941488,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:35:07","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941371<\/a>
>he is talking about the traditional family<\/span>

No, Marx uses bourgeois to mean the capitalist class","time":1778596507,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941578,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:36:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941389<\/a>
>Anon claiming to champion the "working class" ideology of jews also knows about the truffles<\/span>
Ah yes, that meme","filename":"communism-working-class-comic-1024x341-4214906587","ext":".png","w":1024,"h":341,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":41,"tim":1778596599240556,"time":1778596599,"md5":"fggHZ7Sz\/tuPr0OLDk2dLw==","fsize":343511,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941705,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:39:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941578<\/a>
I love food. Plenty of working class people spend more than the cost of truffles on their hobbies. For the cost of two fast food meals, you can get a small jar of truffles. For the cost of one, you can get a small jar of caviar. I don't go out to eat and I don't eat much, but when I am celebrating a special occasion or indulging, I do with small portions of exceptional food rather than large helpings of goyslop","time":1778596776,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941719,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:39:50","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941488<\/a>
>the present family<\/span>
He is talking about the family structure that has existed since the introduction of agriculture (moving beyond primitive socialist tribal arrangements). The idea being criticized is inheritance of wealth, or, to put in more plain terms, a man's ability to pass on the fruits of his labor to his kids.","time":1778596790,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941821,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:41:45","name":"Anonymous","com":"Ah finally, a picture of some water(untouched and scorned) at Saint Xi's table, and this actually isn't that luxury, just a bit of fondue, which I admit is not actually fancy as the Hollywood meme would suggest","filename":"AA1rHBEQ-1605648051","ext":".jpg","w":780,"h":452,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":72,"tim":1778596905933316,"time":1778596905,"md5":"ED0npB3ZWqoXpPhHdWAJ8A==","fsize":75937,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941857,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:42:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941719<\/a>
Which very few proles did then or ever will. Because both of the wealth they produce accumulates in the hands of families like thr Trumps","time":1778596947,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534941885,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:43:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941821<\/a>
>fondue<\/span>

Holy shit!!!!!","time":1778596981,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942063,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:45:52","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941857<\/a>
>the wealth they produce accumulates in the hands of families like thr Trumps<\/span>
Xi Jinping's net worth is estimated to be around $1.5 billion
Truly a representation of pulling himself up by his bootstraps","time":1778597152,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942216,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:48:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941857<\/a>
>average people don't have inheritance <\/span>
Talking about yourself here? Sorry your mom fucked a deadbeat and had you.","time":1778597316,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942250,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:49:13","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534942063<\/a>
>Xi Jinping's net worth is estimated to be around $1.5 billion<\/span>

Based on what lol","time":1778597353,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942336,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:50:43","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534942216<\/a>
No, I am talking about average people. I did have inheritance you cockthirtsy maga cuck. Most working class barely even have a savings","time":1778597443,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942422,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:52:22","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937680<\/a>
Then the communist will tell you he's not a leftist.","time":1778597542,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942505,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:53:56","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534942336<\/a>
Average people have inherentance leftcel. The only ones who don't are the kids of retarded mothers who choose terrible fathers.
>maga cuck<\/span>
>thinking I'm a Trumpfag because I offer a basic criticism of your shit religion<\/span>","time":1778597636,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942614,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:56:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534942505<\/a>
Average Americans don't even have savings, you halfwit

No, I think you're a Trumpfag because you loved your dad face raping you every night and you fantasize about Trump sodomizing your wife and mother","time":1778597761,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942766,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:58:52","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941719<\/a>
The idea being criticized is one that's never mentioned? You're just confabulating a way for the passage to be about a pretext for stealing your money, instead of what it says it's about. You are a caricature of who communism criticizes; money is all you care about, so you assume it must be all that anyone else cares about either, and that anything anyone states that seems unconcerned with money must be a trick.

Fantastic post, since you just walked in and illustrated the exact mindset the OP is talking about;
>>534937062<\/a>","time":1778597932,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534942799,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)10:59:29","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
>The bourgeoisie<\/span>
are communists in the government","time":1778597969,"resto":534937062,"country":"AU","country_name":"Australia"},{"no":534943334,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:08:58","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534942614<\/a>
>average Americans don't have savings<\/span>
Because they have debt nigger. What happens when the debt is paid? They gain ownership of the asset. Again, you are retarded. The fact that lots of people live beyond their means doesn't change this. Boomers are rich because they have assets they've accumulated overtime. Non kiked out boomers will give these to their kids, as yours did to you. Are you bourgeois?
>deranged Trump fanfic<\/span>
Leftcels are mentally cooked.
>>534942766<\/a>
>You're just confabulating a way for the passage to be about a pretext for stealing your money, instead of what it says it's about.<\/span>
Except that is what its about. Private wealth accumulation is something that hard left societies seek to ban, as they always have tried to do. You leftoids are just salty about it because it, like a lot of your other ideas, is a retarded one.
>you only care about money<\/span>
The state of leftoids.

While you're here defending your comrade, would you like to amswer my other posts asking about luxury goods and Chaikas being restricted for Party officials, or are you going to bitch out like your fellow leftcel?","time":1778598538,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534943409,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:10:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Daiky reminder that the means of production is people. When they say "sieze the means of production" they are talking about slavery.","time":1778598609,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534943523,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:12:03","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943334<\/a>
Because they're living paycheck-to-paycheck, you stupid fuck.

>non-kiked boomers<\/span>
Except for my parents I don't know a single example of this. Every boomer I have ever talked to sold their home or the one they inherited and often with the logic of them having multiple kids so they can't really fairly pass it on","time":1778598723,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534943561,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:12:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943409<\/a>
No, they're talking about industry. The means of production are tools","time":1778598761,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534943636,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:14:06","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943561<\/a>
Tools aren't the means of production, they multiply human production output. Tools can't do shit by themselves.","time":1778598846,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534943749,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:16:23","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943636<\/a>
Yes of course, as per Das Kapital, hence the labor theory of value. But the means of production in Das Kapital are the tools that staggeringly magnify the wealth production by labor","time":1778598983,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534943919,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:19:42","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943749<\/a>
Thay's cool and all, but anything multiplied by 0 is 0, people will be forced to work jobs that are considered undesirable because they are necessary to keep a country functioning. Which is bad news for all the useful idots thinking they will be artists and shit.","time":1778599182,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944070,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:22:51","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943919<\/a>
The big the problem today is unemployment. People already take jobs they don't want. But communism offers free education if they want to qualify for another","time":1778599371,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944135,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:24:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943523<\/a>
>Because they're living paycheck-to-paycheck, you stupid fuck.<\/span>
Because of choices they've made. Millions live paycheck to paycheck, but millions don't. I make a modest $60k, but I have $150k in savings due to the choices in lifestyle (not being a rentcuck and living with parents) at 32.
>>534943523<\/a>
>Every boomer I have ever talked to sold their home or the one they inherited and often with the logic of them having multiple kids so they can't really fairly pass it on<\/span>
Where do you live? This idea is completely foregin to me. Do you people not believe in multigenerational housing?","time":1778599441,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944155,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:24:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
What is a bourgeoisie?","time":1778599461,"resto":534937062,"country":"GB","country_name":"United Kingdom"},{"no":534944170,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:24:30","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
communists are the worst kind of retard: the ones who believe that they are actually smart","time":1778599470,"resto":534937062,"country":"IT","country_name":"Italy"},{"no":534944252,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:26:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944135<\/a>
That's a salaried paycheck, not a wage paycheck, and many people do not have the option to live with their parents","time":1778599569,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944362,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:28:14","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944155<\/a>
Society in the Renaissance was divided into three classes: the peasants and laborers, the petty bourgeoisie (small business owners), the grand bourgeoisie (major merchants and manufacturers, very wealthy), and the nobility. Once the nobility were toppled by the bourgeoisie, they became the ruling class","time":1778599694,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944370,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:28:24","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Honestly that's an incredibly based take on disgusting, degrading wagie humiliation and crass slave mentality culture of capitalism. But I would take it as a call for a return to old feudal ways and comfy medieval village life rather than a Soviet tier state which is just another form of the very things this critiques with bosses and a culture wasteland.","time":1778599704,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944482,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:30:20","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Socialism doesn't exist, it's a myth. As soon as you implement it, it becomes class-based. Do you think Hasan will be on the same level as a janitor? He will get deluxe housing and more money. Leaders? How can you have leaders if it's real socialism? Why are there proletariates? Communism is just capitalism without rights or freedom of expression, go look at China. It's all fake.","time":1778599820,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944484,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:30:23","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944070<\/a>
Will it? All the time? If I don't like 30 jobs in a row you're telling me that the state should be willing to fund me indefinitely in the hopes that I find one I can stick with? At what point to they jump in and tell me to buckle down, which they will have to if they don't want people abusing the system. What if nobody wants to be a plumber, do we all swim in shit, or should the government step in and force some people to do the job that others won't for the "greater good"? An idealist would say this should be done through incentives instead of force, but historically that's never really been the case.","time":1778599823,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944608,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:32:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944370<\/a>
You a fan of sharecropping?

>>534944484<\/a>
I never said you have to love your job or that is guaranteed. I only said people already take jobs they don't like under capitalism and it doesn't offer them free education to qualify for another job (if they can)","time":1778599961,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944708,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:34:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943919<\/a>
but this already happens
do you think we don't have janitors, or do you think that everyone who's currently a janitor believes it's their life's calling?","time":1778600061,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944727,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:34:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944608<\/a>
So like I was saying it's slave labor. I get that capitalism isn't the best shit ever, but while socialists absolutely have valid critiques, their solutions are retarded","time":1778600087,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944773,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:35:38","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943919<\/a>
I always wonders how they found janitors and holodeck jizz moppers in the Star Trek universe","time":1778600138,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944800,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:36:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944708<\/a>
The fact that we have janitors who are willing to work for free shows how unnecessary crapitalism is","time":1778600164,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944801,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:36:05","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944484<\/a>
>An idealist would say this should be done through incentives instead of force<\/span>
Ah yes, the inevitable eviction notice and red lettered "bills" that become due
It's great incentive actually, either lock down at a job, or find a cardboard box to live out of(unless you are immigrant, in which case the state will pay your way to business ownership and subsidize employers for hiring you)","time":1778600165,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944807,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:36:10","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
social democrats are closer to fascism than national socialists
the worst part of communism is the abolishment of private property
national socialism will retain private property - eg: credits for buying homes that were erased by having kids
National Socialism > Capitalism > International Socialism","time":1778600170,"resto":534937062,"country":"DE","country_name":"Germany"},{"no":534944827,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:36:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944727<\/a>
How is it slave labor?","time":1778600196,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944829,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:36:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534943561<\/a>
The effect is the same. No economic avenues exist outside the state. You either perform the task the commissar assigns or starve. No alternative employer is permitted and you may not work the land for your own sustenance.","time":1778600199,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944945,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:38:27","name":"LUCIFER","com":"Merchant World is a nightmare.","filename":"Necropolitics","ext":".png","w":1024,"h":1536,"tn_w":83,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778600307615010,"time":1778600307,"md5":"yYkzY\/efqSgtLq+3mzL1Mw==","fsize":2260151,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","m_img":1,"trip":"!!P38zFLDUYUh","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534944947,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:38:29","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944252<\/a>
No, I'm hourly. I was just giving an average post tax income.

>and many people do not have the option to live with their parents<\/span>
Only if you live in a rural area with lack of opportunity or poor family dynamics. Any major metro has plenty of jobs. The problem being described doesn't come from capitalism, but poor choices or localized lack of opportunity, which can be fixed with some state intervention (I'm not some lolberg). Poor family dynamics is something that can only be fixed by controlling women's sexual behavior, something leftists will never do.

Many people choose high income or jobs that are closer to their interests than jobs that pay decent enough and allow you to take advantage of intergenerational housing, which is the single best way to build wealth.","time":1778600309,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534944964,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:39:02","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944708<\/a>
State never told them to be a janny, the last thing you want to do is give populations something direct to blame, it's why military recruiters in Ukraine are getting killed now despite them always having a military","time":1778600342,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945026,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:40:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944807<\/a>
Homes as property are not abolished bt comminism

>The distinguishing feature of communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property [capital].<\/span>

-The Communist Manifesto","time":1778600418,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945028,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:40:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
when you put it like that capitalism sounds pretty based
retard take tho, look up oligarchy lol","time":1778600421,"resto":534937062,"country":"GB","country_name":"United Kingdom"},{"no":534945060,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:40:58","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944829<\/a>
What retardation is this. Do you even understand how soviets work or what they even are?","time":1778600458,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945157,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:42:35","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944827<\/a>
>how is the government forcing you to do shit you don't want to do slave labor<\/span>","time":1778600555,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945173,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:42:57","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534944947<\/a>
The national median wage in 2026 is $20.30 an hour before taxes","time":1778600577,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945203,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:43:28","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534945157<\/a>
What the fuck are you even talking about?","time":1778600608,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945227,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:43:56","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534945060<\/a>
That retardation is communism. If the government owns all the means of production then your employer is always the government.","time":1778600636,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945258,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:44:34","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534945203<\/a>
You have to be a spic or something this can't be real lmfao","time":1778600674,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534945301,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:45:11","name":"LUCIFER","com":"... here's Devil Town, from Daniel Johnston's "1990" tape

https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iFivJr41y4s","time":1778600711,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","trip":"!!P38zFLDUYUh","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534945731,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:52:56","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534945173<\/a>
>national<\/span>
Irrelevant. You need to look at local wages and local PPP. If there is a job in SF that pays $150k, but there's a job that pays $50k in Nowhere, OH, who is better off? The answer is whoever can take advantage of intergenerational housing in both cases. This also completely ignores other factors like immigration that drives down labor costs.","time":1778601176,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534946082,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:58:59","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534945227<\/a>
Soviets are the government","time":1778601539,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534946137,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)11:59:44","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534945731<\/a>
Intergenerational housing only works with one child over and over, i.e. population decline","time":1778601584,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534946825,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:13:38","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534946137<\/a>
No. I live with my two brothers. Our house is large though, because my father planned for this. I get what you are saying, but large families living on the same plot of land has been normal for thousands of years (invention of argriculture). Smaller families are a consequence of industrialization as it is, so housing need will go down naturally overtime as families get smaller and less people need housing. This is why housing is actually a poor investment, and only artificial forces pump the price.","time":1778602418,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534946849,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:14:12","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534946137<\/a>
>population decline<\/span>
the bourgeoisie doesn't want you to know this but natural, intergenerational population decline is a good thing","time":1778602452,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534946922,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:15:17","name":"Anonymous","com":"We havent tried REAL ____ ideology. Every ideological change has just been about power exchanging hands, they are just labeled differently.","time":1778602517,"resto":534937062,"country":"MY","country_name":"Malaysia"},{"no":534947571,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:27:32","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534946922<\/a>
yeah, that's the basic idea - take the power out of the hands of the bourgeoisie and put it into the hands of the proletariat

one major problem that marx doesn't seem to have foreseen is that, once communist states started to be founded, international capital made its primary goal the destruction of those states (see world war 2 -> cold war: first the destruction of german national socialism, then the destruction of russian soviet socialism)

china's taoist philosophy of doing nothing may have been the winning strategy here. they just sat there and waited for international capital to GIVE them the means of production","time":1778603252,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534948378,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:43:35","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941371<\/a>
I hate how retards always cite the Communist Manifesto as something significant when it was made as a short-hand pamphlet for random British shmucks to understand their Party program in the 1800's
Extrapolating meaning from it into today's world is like trying to use a modern gun by reading a manual on how to use a musket","time":1778604215,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534948489,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:45:37","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534948378<\/a>
It was written in German at the request of the communist society","time":1778604337,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534948639,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:48:19","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534941719<\/a>
>>534941371<\/a>
Yes, he wants to destroy the western concept of "nuclear family" and replace it with a Slavic concept of "extended family", as the latter leads to much less degeneration.
For example in nuclear families, the brothers and sisters eventually form their own families and so the brother and sister, as well as the father ceases being part of the family at that point. So what happens when the father dies?
The brothers and sisters lawyer up, hound each other and putting maximum effort into grabbing everything that isn't bolted on the ground.","time":1778604499,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534948831,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:51:38","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534948639<\/a>
What your are describing is not unique to slavs, nor is it something that capitalism does by default. Its what happens when retarded boomers listening to evil kikes take over.

The solution is to just kill kikes.","time":1778604698,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534949096,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:56:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938723<\/a>
basically what marx is on about is that once the institutions and conventions are established, the need for a state diminishes, eventually disappearing.
take ancient ireland, they were essentially a stateless society, a patchwork of chiefdoms and kings who all followed certain laws, out of convention. their conflicts were mediated by the druid class, who were essentially a supernational justice system, as well as bureaucrats, teachers, judges, and religious officials.
another example of a stateless solution was native americans stringing the skulls of the animals they killed on certain trees designated for this purpose. the reason was, that the rawhife used to tie it on the tree eventually rots and falls off. the message being don't hunt too many more of these until the string rots, so their numbers can replenish. nobody made them do this, and different tribes would use the same tree. this avoided costly conflict over hunting rights, as well as solving problems of scarcity and extinction.
so it's about using a dictatorship in order to instill certain cultural values and practices so that it becomes self enforcing.","time":1778604977,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534949112,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:56:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534948831<\/a>
Jews are about 1000 years old, since for example the Jews from the bible are ethnically distinct from modern Jews.
Yet this extended-family exclusion was happening as soon as the traditional tribe systems collapsed and were replaced by "every man on his own" nuclear families. Before the Jews even existed.","time":1778604991,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534949205,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:58:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same rotten coin. This isn't news here bub","filename":"1743526290275285","ext":".jpg","w":1500,"h":1521,"tn_w":123,"tn_h":124,"tim":1778605084695606,"time":1778605084,"md5":"sdX4yan5oFZAbY3ob4O+1Q==","fsize":200277,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","m_img":1,"country_name":"United States"},{"no":534949225,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:58:30","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534940261<\/a>
no he actually had a pretty good argument. you are just being immature","time":1778605110,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534949278,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)12:59:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534948831<\/a>
>nor is it something that capitalism does by default<\/span>

Yeah it is. Capitalism always needs to expand so, like Marx says, it must concert every qualitative value into a quantative one, it must seek to commodify everything by its own logic of exploiting something as a market wherever possible or losing out to those who do","time":1778605176,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534949460,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:00:20","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534949096<\/a>
>so it's about using a dictatorship in order to instill certain cultural values and practices so that it becomes self enforcing.<\/span>
always one more murder away from utopia","time":1778605220,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534949816,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:06:26","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534949112<\/a>
>jews are about 1000 years old<\/span>
Traditional nuclear families, which were an outgrowth of old agricultural based family clan structures, have existed since before Rome. There is no rule under capitalism that states that you must not have extended families or clans. This was idea introduced by jews to weaken their enemies.
>>534949278<\/a>
Again, extended families exist in capitalist societies. I'm not sure where this idea that clans cannot exist under capitalism, or private property market systems in general, comes from. Under capitalism, all that matters is wealth generation and accumulation. Extended families do this better than atomized ones, as I am living proof of.","time":1778605586,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534950000,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:09:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534942766<\/a>
How the hell is someone who believes in a meterialistic ideology, that quite literally only cares about money, criticising others for caring about money?","time":1778605787,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534950046,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:10:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534949816<\/a>
>Traditional nuclear families, which were an outgrowth of old agricultural based family clan structures, have existed since before Rome. There is no rule under capitalism that states that you must not have extended families or clans. This was idea introduced by jews to weaken their enemies.<\/span>
That is correct, but in capitalism that Marx lived in, extended family was completely destroyed, so he assumed it was a natural consequence. But in theory you can always have an ideology where you mix and match everything together.","time":1778605839,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534950116,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:11:45","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534950000<\/a>
He doesn't personally care about money, but he thinks that the state's purpose is material (to improve material conditions of it's people) rather than spiritual","time":1778605905,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534950361,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:15:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534950046<\/a>
>But in theory you can always have an ideology where you mix and match everything together.<\/span>
Absolutely. I consider myself a pragmatist above all else. Marx was not entirely wrong, but not entirely right either.","time":1778606127,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534950545,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:19:07","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937786<\/a>
>adhom<\/span>
>strawman<\/span>
Not arguments","time":1778606347,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534950659,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:21:14","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534949096<\/a>
>ancient ireland was stateless<\/span>
>it was a patchwork society of cheifs and kings.<\/span>

Those cheifdoms and kingdoms are known as states.","time":1778606474,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534952756,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:57:56","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534950000<\/a>
It's an ideology quite literally only about ending the rule of money","time":1778608676,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534952865,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)13:59:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534949278<\/a>
>it must concert every qualitative value into a quantative one, it must seek to commodify everything<\/span>
Imagine thinking it's bad capitalism turns ideas to useful things for society, and thinking commodities are "bad."","time":1778608781,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953005,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:01:50","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Mental health awareness month is in June champ, you're early
Are these.. "bourgeoisie" in the room with us?","time":1778608910,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953046,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:02:34","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534952865<\/a>
Commodifting friendship turns it into "networking".","time":1778608954,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953072,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:03:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534952756<\/a>
It is materialist because it believes that the purpose of the state is material instead of spiritual.","time":1778608981,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534953077,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:03:05","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953005<\/a>
The bourgeoisie are simply the capitalist class","time":1778608985,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953105,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:03:35","name":"Anonymous","com":"Reading Capital was a mind blowing experience for me. It\u2019s not really a left\/right book, it\u2019s a devastating analysis of the liberal economic system. I had heard this and that about it, and it was nonsense. If you\u2019re into politics Capital is a must read.","filename":"IMG_0071","ext":".jpg","w":652,"h":1000,"tn_w":81,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778609015655539,"time":1778609015,"md5":"e\/nukFQi9kovVTuTlG6j1Q==","fsize":90179,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953110,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:03:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953072<\/a>
Is the purpose of a hammer material, or spiritual? I am asking you in earnest what you believe about this","time":1778609021,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953120,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:03:52","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953046<\/a>
And? Why the fuck would you be against networking? Are you stupid?","time":1778609032,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953193,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:05:07","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953105<\/a>
I find something new in it every single time I read it. The amount of research and thought that went in to it, is unmatched","time":1778609107,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953246,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:05:50","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953120<\/a>
Do you want all friendship to just be networking? Because that is what happens when you commodify all friendship","time":1778609150,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953250,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:05:54","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953105<\/a>
>it\u2019s a devastating analysis of the liberal economic system. <\/span>
Then, why is everything in it wrong?","time":1778609154,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953293,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:06:35","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953246<\/a>
Sure, why would I want to be friends with useless people? Name the benefit.","time":1778609195,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953295,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:06:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953250<\/a>
Because you haven't read it","time":1778609196,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953354,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:07:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953293<\/a>
Being useless for financial gain doesn't make such friendship worthless. What would even be the point of having children?","time":1778609251,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953358,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:07:33","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953295<\/a>
You could easily prove it by citing claim it makes that was true, but you can't.","time":1778609253,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953373,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:07:53","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953246<\/a>
it doesn't even have to go that far - introducing the commodified networking element at all subverts all friendship by introducing the need to mistrust potential friends and look out for people who are just using you to sell something\/advance their career","time":1778609273,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953432,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:08:57","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953358<\/a>
What is value?","time":1778609337,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953438,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:09:02","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953358<\/a>
>prove that your book isn't a lie<\/span>
>no, i don't know what's in it<\/span>
this is peak disingenuous argumentation","time":1778609342,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953445,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:09:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953354<\/a>
>What would even be the point of having children?<\/span>
People don't have children for monetary reasons? Are you stupid? Do you not know how inheritance works, alimony, or even political dynasties are formed?","time":1778609348,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953747,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:10:03","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953438<\/a>
Why can't you just cite a single claim Capital makes if, if it was true, if you read it.
Just one.","time":1778609403,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953758,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:10:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937680<\/a>
you could just read the manifesto yourself. it's pretty short. then you wouldn't keep embarrassing yourself when you try to talk about it online","time":1778609418,"resto":534937062,"country":"PT","country_name":"Portugal"},{"no":534953778,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:10:43","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953445<\/a>
Money doesn't mean anything. It's a tool. How should everything be subordinated to it? Money should serve man, not man money.","time":1778609443,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953811,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:11:13","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953110<\/a>
For vast majority of people, it is material. But there is nothing stopping you to have a spiritual connection to the hammer if you want to (lol)","time":1778609473,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534953813,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:11:14","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953747<\/a>
i haven't read it, though
i'm a different anon, just pointing out how dishonest you're being","time":1778609474,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953816,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:11:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953747<\/a>
Capital provides the only coherent theory of value","time":1778609477,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953882,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:12:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953778<\/a>
Money doesn't mean anything? You have to be retarded. Without money, how do you pay your bills? How do you buy stuff to survive? You're dumbass.","time":1778609521,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953917,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:12:35","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953811<\/a>
Yeah sure. But only an idiot would say, "No, no, you can't use the hammer, you have to use the saw. What? That doesn't work? You miss the point, tools are not for material purpose, they're spiritual."","time":1778609555,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953921,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:12:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953813<\/a>
>I haven't read it<\/span>
>But you're being honest<\/span>
LMAO, I'm dishonest about something you can't even prove because you're retarded","time":1778609559,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953952,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:13:06","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953882<\/a>
What does money signify or represent?","time":1778609586,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953965,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:13:16","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534952756<\/a>
No, it's an ideology that wants to make money the center of everything.","time":1778609596,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534953991,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:13:39","name":"Anonymous","com":"Shill attacks on Capital take three forms.
1) Misunderstanding the LVT and thinking it\u2019s a theory of how prices arise rather than an account of what value is. Anyone who can read will see through this if they read the book, the goal is for you not to read it.
2) Mindlessly asserting the liberal ideology of \u2018free\u2019 labor, hard work, individualism, even though Capital is dedicated to showing that this is a mirage.
3) Talking about failed socialist states even though Capital has nothing to do with this. It\u2019s a critique of liberal capitalism, not a recipe for a new system.

All can be seen itt.","filename":"IMG_0106","ext":".png","w":1000,"h":940,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":117,"tim":1778609619733832,"time":1778609619,"md5":"dXqzKBZzkECiSFVLfCybhw==","fsize":402849,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954005,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:13:54","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
you know, if you started to quote the jew parts and his obvious hate for himself and his people, people here might actually start to agree with parts of it","filename":"AaronEarnedAnIronUrn","ext":".jpg","w":1061,"h":1661,"tn_w":79,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778609634480898,"time":1778609634,"md5":"n96A56RSlhjFWYHjL\/IcAQ==","fsize":141591,"resto":534937062,"country":"RO","m_img":1,"country_name":"Romania"},{"no":534954022,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:14:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953077<\/a>
>muh capital class<\/span>
Lmao schitzo faggot","time":1778609649,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954036,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:14:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953816<\/a>
With what empirical evidence?","time":1778609661,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954050,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:14:29","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953965<\/a>
You're a Dr. Prager Awoo dumbfuck who doesn't read. Marx calls money a false god","time":1778609669,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954069,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:14:45","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953105<\/a>
I don't read toilet paper, nothing that homeless bum ever wrote had any meaning at all.","time":1778609685,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954093,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:15:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953917<\/a>
The difference is that states were used as a spiritual tool or at least presented to the masses as the enforcers of spirituality in the past.
As far as I know, nobody has ever worshipped hammers.
It is just a distinction so you can better realize the mindset of some anti-communists. Although this type of mindset was very rare when communism actually took place, I think only Franco and maybe some obscure white army thinkers subscribed to this mindset.
For example while Mussolini viewed controlled, secular religion as a good thing, he never understood the state's ultimate goal as being spiritual.","time":1778609709,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534954104,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:15:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953816<\/a>
The labor theory of value is not a coherent theory of value.","time":1778609718,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954143,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:15:55","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Anons do realize that in practice communism always needs slaves... right? Don't be stupid.","time":1778609755,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534954145,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:15:57","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954050<\/a>
Indeed, and then attempts to enshrine it as the ultimate arbiter of fairness. Marx is an idiot, who knew.","time":1778609757,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954173,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:16:15","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954050<\/a>
>55 posts<\/span>
Why don't you get a job bro, maybe then you won't believe in fairy tales like Communism.","time":1778609775,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954176,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:16:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954036<\/a>
There is a lot of data in Capital. Obviously a theory itself is not a proof, it is an explanation of phenomena. The phenomenon in question is value. Marx's theory is the only one that explains it. In fact the only one at all since economists basically abandoned any theory of what exactly value is after Marx, and placed it as the man behind the curtain","time":1778609777,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954240,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:17:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954176<\/a>
>gibs me money<\/span>
>SO BRILLIANT!<\/span>
Leftists are fucking retarded","time":1778609837,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954241,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:17:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954093<\/a>
Okay, so you are arguing that a state's duty and purpose is to enforce religion, yes?","time":1778609837,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954274,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:17:53","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954104<\/a>
You don't read

>>534954173<\/a>
This is my day off","time":1778609873,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954278,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:17:55","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954176<\/a>
>There's a lot of data<\/span>
>I can't cite anything Capital<\/span>
>Theory itself is not proof<\/span>
So, you're just full shit and proving Capital does not say anything of value. Thank you for admitting talking to you is a waste of time.","time":1778609875,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954354,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:19:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954278<\/a>
So you like sucking dick and hate thinking. Thank you, but please keep it to yourself.","time":1778609949,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954375,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:19:28","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954274<\/a>
I do. That's why I know marx is an idiot.","time":1778609968,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954421,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:20:10","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954274<\/a>
Everyday is a day off for you, unemployed moocher.
Rope yourself and unburden society.","time":1778610010,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954472,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:21:00","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954278<\/a>
He's a communist, ofc he has nothing to say or anything to back his claims up with.
They never do, its just muh welfare with these niggers.","time":1778610060,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954545,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:22:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954241<\/a>
No, I am arguing that this is what state's duty used to be in the past (at least on paper)
From the perspective of a Christian reactionary, it is better to have an oligarchic state where few get rich (and go to hell) while the majority is so disgusted with them that they deliberately choose to live humble and simple lives (thereby being saved from various sins that come with that).
On the other hand, a state with purpose to improve material conditions will lead to the masses accepting hedonism and various material pleasures, which will cause the masses to go to hell and their souls won't be saved.
Again, from a perspective of a Christian reactionary like Franco or Denikin for example.","time":1778610137,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534954691,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:24:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954375<\/a>
Wikipedia and xitter don't count

>>534954421<\/a>
Shut the fuck up, you Awoo furry","time":1778610279,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954764,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:25:43","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954545<\/a>
The Orthodox Church ordered Russians to go into WWI to die and kill innocent people by the millions because markets needed it","time":1778610343,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954775,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:25:58","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954691<\/a>
I see you have advanced entirely to insult, because you don't have the ability for argument. This is expected, after all, you beleive in marx.","time":1778610358,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954835,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:27:05","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
there's two option for you paedo commie transfaggot
One, instead posting stupid jewish idiotic shit, go to work and earn money for your food and shithole place you're living in.
Second option, go to HomeDepot and get the rope.
Second option is the best, there's no need for paedo transfaggots to destroy rest of the country and society.","filename":"rope","ext":".jpg","w":800,"h":794,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":124,"tim":1778610425889096,"time":1778610425,"md5":"S6PvxQMcgAgx\/0F8uFKCzA==","fsize":46872,"resto":534937062,"board_flag":"FC","flag_name":"Fascist"},{"no":534954866,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:27:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534938158<\/a>
>>534938380<\/a>
>>534938723<\/a>
>>534939485<\/a>
>>534940301<\/a>
Karl Marx viewed communism as a stateless, classless, and moneyless society that would emerge after capitalism's collapse, replacing private property with common ownership. While the specific phrase "withering away" was popularized by Friedrich Engels, Marx explicitly outlined the conditions under which the state would cease to exist in his own major works.

>Critique of the Gotha Programme (1875)<\/span>
Marx directly challenges the idea of a "free people\u2019s state". He argues that during the "revolutionary transformation" into communism, there is a transitional phase (the "revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat"), but that once class distinctions vanish, the state as a political entity is no longer necessary.
>The Civil War in France (1871)<\/span>
Marx argues here that the working class cannot simply seize the existing "ready-made state machinery" and use it for its own purposes. Instead, the state must be "smashed" because its very structure is designed for class oppression
>The Poverty of Philosophy (1847)<\/span>
Marx explains that the working class will substitute an "association which will exclude classes and their antagonism" for the old civil society. He explicitly states that there will then be "no more political power properly so-called," since political power is the official expression of class antagonism within civil society.
>The Communist Manifesto (1848)<\/span>
Co-authored with Engels, this foundational text states that when the proletariat has "swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms," it will have "swept away its own supremacy as a class". The public power will then "lose its political character," meaning the state as a tool of force disappears.","time":1778610461,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534954880,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:28:00","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954775<\/a>
It's just a statement of fact. If I wanted to insult you, it would not sound like that. You don't even know what chapter one of Capital says","time":1778610480,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534954973,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:29:16","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954764<\/a>
No, not exactly. The Orthodox church had very little to do with WWI, it was actually popular demand by pan-slavic nationalists, because various Germanic states have already been squatting on Slavic land for centuries and erasing the culture there, but then they wanted to take Serbia too, which was a step too far.
Neither the church nor markets had anything to do with it. It was a race war between Slavs and Germans, just like WWII, but more toned down","time":1778610556,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534955017,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:30:05","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954866<\/a>
AI slop","time":1778610605,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955032,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:30:22","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954176<\/a>
I must admit comrade, for me part of Marx\u2019s strength is his emphasis on theory. He doesn\u2019t bumble around in statistics, he thinks through the logic of liberalism and this purely theoretical work guides how he looks at empirical facts. Without grounding in theory he\u2019d be like any other modern ((economist)) talking about the cost of popsicles or what have you. In general, continental philosophy understands that \u2018look at the data!\u2019 is a fraud and a meme. You have to use your brain first in order to look at the data and if you\u2019re retarded you will only find confirmation of your retardation in the data.","time":1778610622,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955083,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:31:14","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954973<\/a>
It was a fucking retarded war that pitted working class against each other to die by the millions with zero gain while capitalists on both sides got rich","time":1778610674,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955094,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:31:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954691<\/a>
Furries are leftists like you, faggot.
Because your side is entirely made up of faggots and mental patients.
Communism is retarded and appeals only to the most useless of society.","filename":"communist-ralsei-request-i-swear-this-isnt-done-daily-v0-g3mqpqevot091","ext":".png","w":1475,"h":2000,"tn_w":92,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778610677036971,"time":1778610677,"md5":"6aZURL0M+ZJ6OHw6DubgWQ==","fsize":540448,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","m_img":1,"country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955149,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:32:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955083<\/a>
Hahahaha now he's hallucinating a class war! Take your pills, fucking retard.","time":1778610738,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955179,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:32:52","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955032<\/a>
Marx went through mountains of data and often infodumps it, read volumes two and three and ffs don't call me comrade","time":1778610772,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955235,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:33:45","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955017<\/a>
So you don't read, got it. Just a LARPer who abandons his principals to insult strangers on the internet and deny communism itself

You're no comrade. Communism, and therefore the truth of the world, are meaningless to you. You wouldn't argue in bad faith or deny the truth if you were truly for the cause, because you would know that doing so only damages the cause.","time":1778610825,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534955240,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:33:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955017<\/a>
Its still more coherent than anything Marx the bum wrote. Dude didn't even have a job and he ditched about Capitalism; I see why he appeals to you.","filename":"1767962604764745","ext":".jpg","w":1024,"h":700,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":85,"tim":1778610826172282,"time":1778610826,"md5":"xpGIaofq67uaX7NlnqylPg==","fsize":254457,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955241,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:33:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534954880<\/a>
I've read the book, which is why I know its codswallop. But here, why don't you go ahead and explain why you believe in it?","time":1778610826,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955242,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:33:49","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955094<\/a>
>Hewwo :3 have you AWOO'd for daddy Twump today?<\/span>","filename":"GZaKQ8iW0AAY7J2","ext":".jpg","w":813,"h":1024,"tn_w":99,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778610829124615,"time":1778610829,"md5":"lJe3Cbs3B2sc6V+3gxQcXg==","fsize":132524,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955277,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:34:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955235<\/a>
I'm not reading AI slop, no","time":1778610861,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955302,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:34:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>

kill all commys","filename":"commy pedos","ext":".png","w":1125,"h":1075,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":119,"tim":1778610887417407,"time":1778610887,"md5":"6+\/1Ycu49itT6q3KrTE+HA==","fsize":338395,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955339,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:35:20","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955242<\/a>
I'm so happy Trump won again, the salt has been ever so delicious.","time":1778610920,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955341,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:35:21","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955083<\/a>
Wars like that predate capitalism. You think there weren't constant squabbles for power in tribal societies?
What capitalism actually invented is "interventions" and "soft power". Of course, the burgeoisie caused many wars, for example in Vietnam, but the true capitalist power is in using sanctions and coercions to blackmail a country into doing the bidding of the burgeoisie. First the imperial core does it, then the rest of the world follows with sanctions solely because they fear of being sanctioned themselves.
The other brilliant invention is the "interventions" where capitalist states pretend not to be in a war, but they are financing rebels and much more importantly, giving them weapons, training and intelligence.","time":1778610921,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534955384,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:36:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955277<\/a>
"sorry I don't read citations to specific works"
Yeah, you don't read","time":1778610968,"resto":534937062,"country":"CA","country_name":"Canada"},{"no":534955431,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:37:03","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955241<\/a>
Because I've read Adam Smith, who also infodumps data, and I consider Marx to fix the holes in his theory. The consistent correlation between value and socially average labor required for a commodity can't be ignored. As soon as an item takes more socially average labor, its value immediately fluctuates. The market appraises based on this. The market can drastically overestimate socially average labor requires though, and that leads to bubbles","time":1778611023,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955450,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:37:22","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955302<\/a>","filename":"1766042199590134m","ext":".jpg","w":980,"h":1024,"tn_w":119,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778611042197100,"time":1778611042,"md5":"na7r6QbtSMAFL+o\/+okdmw==","fsize":147813,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955462,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:37:33","name":"Anonymous","com":"Ever notice that the most diehard commies these days are the most pathetic do nothing neets imaginable?
Not even the guys who willingly neet to burden the system, but parasites so pathetic that they cannot envision themselves capable of anything productive so they preach communism in the hopes that someone else will come along and play daddy for them by removing all expectation of responsibility from their hands.

Going by the track record of communism these people will be thanked for their dedication by being executed on the side of the road.","time":1778611053,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955463,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:37:33","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955339<\/a>
I'm sure you find his semen nice and salty","time":1778611053,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955477,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:37:43","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955277<\/a>
Weird communists would be against AI considering it could solve the economic calculation problem
But you're dumb and a luddite like all commies and hate technology progress","time":1778611063,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955500,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:38:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955179<\/a>
I didn\u2019t say he didn\u2019t look at data you mouthbreather, I said his theory of commodities and capital informed his interpretation of this data. If you want an ostensibly \u2018neutral\u2019 and empirical interpretation of our economy just watch CNN.","time":1778611084,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955532,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:38:37","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955463<\/a>
I'm not a leftist, so I don't drink semen.
Glad I could cheer that up for you.
Are you angry your communist friends lost their redistricting shenangians?","time":1778611117,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955602,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:39:44","name":"Anonymous","filename":"1763656317550584","ext":".jpg","w":1016,"h":1024,"tn_w":124,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778611184296908,"time":1778611184,"md5":"HATCHj1mOjcqmDRcfbU5NQ==","fsize":124062,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955618,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:40:06","name":"Anonymous","com":"Commies be like
>I hate the working day being so long and I hate bullshit jobs<\/span>
So lets using AI to automate them and reduce the amount of work have to do
>NO NOT LIKE THAT<\/span>","time":1778611206,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955667,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:40:49","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955618<\/a>
Most of them are artists, and they're mad their zero effort job can be done by 1s and 0s now.","time":1778611249,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955693,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:41:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955477<\/a>
I don't see how LLMs could solve the economic calculation problem. They could be used to optimize anti-corruption activities by sifting through millions of transactions of State-Owned-Enterprises and flagging suspicious transactions, then those suspicious transactions could be fed to agentic LLM with access to various public databases to connect specific names to the transaction, their connections and why it is suspicious.","time":1778611268,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534955705,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:41:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955431<\/a>
But marx doesn't say socially value labor adds to the value of an object. He says it is the value of an object. That it is, in truth, the sole determiner of value. This is obvious nonsense. Increasing the average time for production does not increase the value of an object, yet, this is what marx claims. He also rejects the intrinsic value of objects. This is obvious nonsense.","time":1778611278,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955738,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:41:51","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955477<\/a>
Lmao remember how Russia removed all calculators and switched everyone to abacuses to save money?","time":1778611311,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955815,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:43:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955477<\/a>
AI might be useful one day in that respect but right now it is mainly a toy for boomers and a producer of slop. I have seen it hallucinate too many times","time":1778611388,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955873,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:43:59","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955532<\/a>
Yes you do, faggot","filename":"1726431135627494","ext":".png","w":500,"h":288,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":72,"tim":1778611439937807,"time":1778611439,"md5":"b7dz7kiNCaIrc5uP5kgMfg==","fsize":210427,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955949,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:45:14","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955705<\/a>
If gold takes more socially average labor to mine than before, the value goes up. Absolutely.","time":1778611514,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534955963,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:45:28","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955873<\/a>
>communist trying to claim 90% of his cohorts aren't massive faggots<\/span>
Lmao, lol","filename":"images(81)","ext":".jpg","w":739,"h":415,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":70,"tim":1778611528737674,"time":1778611528,"md5":"9cwQl9ZlIx6bQmbki3jaFA==","fsize":73900,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956060,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:47:13","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955963<\/a>
The largest communist party in the world is the CCP","time":1778611633,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956094,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:47:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955963<\/a>
>>534955873<\/a>
homosexuality is just a cultural, perhaps ethnic thing.
In Russia, everyone hates homosexuals, and in the west everyone loves homosexuals.
There are exceptions like India and Australia which also love gays.","filename":"1778611635572","ext":".jpg","w":526,"h":518,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":123,"tim":1778611666227526,"time":1778611666,"md5":"lXYKfFsRNfMiiSrhHrXJIw==","fsize":35154,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534956132,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:48:38","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956060<\/a>
>muh CCP<\/span>
Lmao oh no, so scary a bunch of Chinks good thing they only have 5% accuracy since they can't open their eyes
Go be a good communist now, we need some fertilizer","filename":"images(82)","ext":".jpg","w":671,"h":457,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":85,"tim":1778611718017815,"time":1778611718,"md5":"5fwQKRzAu6fG80fLJ2yDhg==","fsize":64508,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956221,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:49:55","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955693<\/a>
AI is being used to some what address it with dynamic pricing that sets prices based on real-time shifts in demand, creating more efficient allocation of goods
>>534955738<\/a>
They fucking banned cybernetics lmao and Mendelian genetics","time":1778611795,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956248,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:50:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956094<\/a>
It came out of the New Left

>In the United States, the CIA, through the Congress for Cultural Freedom, funded various intellectuals, cultural organizations and magazines affiliated with the New Left that championed anti-communist ideas and Western values.[7][8][9][10]<\/span>

>It consisted of activists in the Western world who, in reaction to the era's liberal establishment, campaigned for freer lifestyles on a broad range of social issues such as feminism, gay rights, drug policy reforms, and gender relations.[1] The New Left differs from the traditional left in that it tended to acknowledge the struggle for various forms of social justice, whereas previous movements prioritized explicitly economic goals.<\/span>

>Some who self-identified as "New Left"[5] rejected involvement with the labor movement and Marxism's historical theory of class struggle;[6]<\/span>","time":1778611818,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956293,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:51:06","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956248<\/a>
>schitzo is making shit up again<\/span>
Take your meds, did they also steal your newspaper and why you can't get a job?","time":1778611866,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956337,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:52:00","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956293<\/a>
Only a glowstick seethes about glow being exposed","time":1778611920,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956366,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:52:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
>>534937786<\/a>
>>534938380<\/a>
>>534954764<\/a>
>>534938523<\/a>
>>534938182<\/a>
>>534939485<\/a>
>>534955179<\/a>
You will never be a Woman.","time":1778611966,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956374,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:52:55","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953046<\/a>
Friendship was always about networking. Why do you think unrelelated male chimps work together? To help achieve goals.","time":1778611975,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956375,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:52:56","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534955949<\/a>
Yes, but dundee mc.chucklefuck, or even enough dundy mc.chucklefucks to raise the average worker production time being absolutely terrible miners does not. So you've got a situation where the socially average labor time is disconnected from value. You admit that this is the case in your previous response about bubbles. Value is not soley determined by the socially necessary labor time, as marx claims. Therefore, he is incorrect. He does not claim that socially necessary labor time affects value, he claims it is value. Any attempt to deflect away from this claim leads to the situation where you're claiming marx is a great thinker because labor is a cost.

We've still not touched upon the intrinsic value of objects, which marx also rejects.

His theory of value is incoherent.","time":1778611976,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956467,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:54:37","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956337<\/a>
>spams a bunch of schitzo babble full of communist wording<\/span>
>anyone calling it such is a ""glowstick""<\/span>
>glowstick<\/span>
Are you not allowed to say Nigger because you'll get banned from your discord you communist faggot?","time":1778612077,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956603,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:56:59","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956375<\/a>
Terrible miners obviously are not "average", they are terrible. At Marx says in chapter one, someone being bad at something does not increase its value, because value is the average labor society takes. Likewise if someone excels average, it doesn't lower the value.","time":1778612219,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956729,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:59:12","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953991<\/a>
>this nigga doesn't know about time preference<\/span>
LVT is incomplete.","time":1778612352,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956743,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)14:59:32","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956603<\/a>
And again, if there are enough terrible miners to increase the average time it takes to produce gold, but the number of skilled miners has not changed, the price of gold will not change. So, again, socially necessary labor time is not the sole determiner of value, as marx claims.","time":1778612372,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956774,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:00:02","name":"Anonymous","com":"daily reminder that LTV was invented by Adam Smith, not by Marx (who stole it, heh)","time":1778612402,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534956841,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:01:13","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956774<\/a>
>did you just use a + to specify summation? don't you know that someone else already invented that, thief<\/span>","time":1778612473,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534956893,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:02:15","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956841<\/a>
Marx himself admitted to taking LTV from Smith, which you would know if you have read Das Kapital","time":1778612535,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534956941,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:03:07","name":"Anonymous","com":"The only injustice in America is that somehow this is allowed, freedom of speech is for citizens. Not traitors.
If I was Trump I'd track every commie ITT and kill their entire families on the White House lawn.","time":1778612587,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956946,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:03:15","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953991<\/a>
1.If LTV can't predict prices, then it's useless
Firms can't use it to efficiently allocate resources based on demand. It has no real world application.
Nobody cares about point 2 when communism doesn't work while liberal societies have a track record of working and communism doesn't","time":1778612595,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956997,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:04:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956337<\/a>
Lmao what's the matter Tranny? Can't say Glownigger?
Sacrifices will have to be made if you're going to try and blend in. Think you've got what it takes to say the nigger word when Dayquandus is counting on you to start the revolution and free him from all those rape charges?","time":1778612644,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534956999,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:04:11","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956893<\/a>
I am mocking your "stealing" comment","time":1778612651,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534957055,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:05:13","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>","filename":"1714278914441437","ext":".jpg","w":968,"h":536,"tn_w":124,"tn_h":69,"tim":1778612713406785,"time":1778612713,"md5":"i6VRm43pdLmnnP2RQh5DYw==","fsize":71215,"resto":534937062,"country":"BR","country_name":"Brazil"},{"no":534957118,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:06:18","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
Another rmarxist thread, please seize the means to better ideologies","time":1778612778,"resto":534937062,"country":"IE","country_name":"Ireland"},{"no":534957160,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:07:02","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956743<\/a>
Terrible is a relative term, it is not really possible for a large portion of employed miners to be terrible in any meaningful sense. Terrible suggests more than a standard deviation below average.

But let us say "good" is x and "shit" is z, just for the sake of argument. And 2\/3 miners are z. Then yes the value of gold will increase, all else being equal","time":1778612822,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957241,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:08:36","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956467<\/a>
racial bias is antithetical to communism but strongly encouraged by people seeking to divide the working class","time":1778612916,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957357,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:10:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957160<\/a>
It will not if we are freezing outputs. The same amount of gold is making it to market, more even, however there's now a large contingent of doofuses, enough to raise the average manhour cost of gold, now mining gold. Prices would not increase in this scenario. Again, like in bubbles, we've got a situation where socially average labor is disconnected from value. Marx's theory of value cannot be accurately used to describe value. It is incoherent. We've still not touched on intrinsic value of objects which marx rejects.","time":1778613031,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957416,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:11:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957241<\/a>
Class is a spook, and not a valid organizing principal. Race is real and is. The elite use class politics to divide and distract from racial politics which would actually help them.","time":1778613087,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957489,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:12:52","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957416<\/a>
Class has always existed and always related to the means of production. It is shill bullshit to say wage slaves and capitalists are not distinct classes","time":1778613172,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957511,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:13:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957241<\/a>
Shut up tard boi theres differences between races whether you or your girlboss ideals like it or not","time":1778613188,"resto":534937062,"country":"IE","country_name":"Ireland"},{"no":534957514,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:13:11","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534937062<\/a>
>The solution to jews taking over capitalism and poisoning your country is this other jew system that killed 60 million white Christians<\/span>","time":1778613191,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957549,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:13:53","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957514<\/a>
6 trillion, you mean","filename":"procopious","ext":".png","w":501,"h":843,"tn_w":74,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778613233311919,"time":1778613233,"md5":"UXJTEOxQDQj5gAl9Hdbv1A==","fsize":108322,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957576,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:14:25","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957489<\/a>
Class as used in class politics by marxists is not real. You cannot better your life and the life of your community by class politics. These things are bettered by race politics. This is why communists agitate so strongly against race politics, because communism is an elite ideology, not an ideology for workers.","time":1778613265,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957617,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:14:57","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953758<\/a>
Short, simple, easy to apply, and yet has failed spectacularly whenever it's been tried. Maybe the embarrassing thing is discussing it all at this point.","time":1778613297,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957622,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:15:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957241<\/a>
Marx didn't believe in racial equality, or even ethnic equality. He thought slavic people were too foreign from Germans to ever adopt his system.

If Marx saw the racial composition of America he would vomit.","time":1778613304,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957646,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:15:30","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957549<\/a>
Shut up mutt","time":1778613330,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957739,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:16:57","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957576<\/a>
>You cannot better your life and the life of your community by class politics<\/span>
it worked for 800 million chinese","time":1778613417,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957751,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:17:05","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957576<\/a>
Labor alienation can't be fixed by ignoring the cause","time":1778613425,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957763,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:17:19","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957576<\/a>
Race politics shouldn't even exist and normally don't, since homogeneous countries have zero reason to talk about race and multicultural countries collapse sooner or later","time":1778613439,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534957783,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:17:32","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957241<\/a>
Tranny can't bring himself to say nigger, kek","time":1778613452,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957822,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:18:11","name":"Anonymous","com":"I've heard that, in America, comparing 1980s-1990s with now:
- CEO pay went up 1000%
- worker pay went up 27%

Why do CEOs have to be paid so much? We have proof (history), that they could lead their companies and not be paid beaucoup bucks.

Second question: why are Americans so poor now? Is it due to globalization and international free trade making American workers on the same level as Chinese and turd-world workers? In that case Americans loose wealth and become poor.","time":1778613491,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957864,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:18:43","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956094<\/a>
Homosexuality is a disgusting bourgeoisie vice and it has no place in socialist society. It's nothing more than bourgeoisie perversion in which two deviants put their own hedonistic pleasure above the good of society.","time":1778613523,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534957877,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:18:50","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957622<\/a>
that's true, the recent effort to turn humanity into a homogeneous race of global consumers is bourgeois to the core","time":1778613530,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957892,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:18:59","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957763<\/a>
All empires and states of significant size have always been multicultural. The alternative model didn't arise until the concept of melting pot","time":1778613539,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957910,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:19:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957489<\/a>
Race\/tribal affiliations are far, far older than human beings. They are observed in other animals.","time":1778613557,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957924,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:19:43","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957864<\/a>
Socialism always comes with the host nation's characteristics. If a country is 30% gay, then socialism won't stop it from being gay.","time":1778613583,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534957932,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:19:49","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957763<\/a>
Race politics used to be known as statesmanship.
>>534957751<\/a>
The cause of labor alienation is exploitation by racial aliens.

>>534957739<\/a>
The chinese are still enslaved, and like in soviet russia their rise in life was industrialization backed by communist sympathizers in the west. Not due to class politics.","time":1778613589,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957935,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:19:51","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957739<\/a>
The homogeneous monoculture, you retarded tranny faggot?","time":1778613591,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957963,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:20:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534953758<\/a>
>hey bud just read about the system that failed spectacularly every time it was enacted<\/span>
>BUT THIS TIME ITLL WORK<\/span>
Lol i dont need to read about things that are retarded to look at the consequences of them and be able to say its tard level antics. Look at islam, ive never read the quran and i mever will.but i can tell you with complete honesty that islam is a gay and bullshity religion","time":1778613631,"resto":534937062,"country":"IE","country_name":"Ireland"},{"no":534957964,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:20:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957822<\/a>
Does global trade exist?","time":1778613631,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957968,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:20:34","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957910<\/a>
Other animals can't even organize beyond the size of a pack and split apart when they get any larger","time":1778613634,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957990,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:21:06","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957932<\/a>
You don't know what labor alienation is","time":1778613666,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534957993,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:21:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957783<\/a>
why would i want to insult a huge swath of the working class over something they can't change and many of them are proud of? i'd rather call you a class traitor","time":1778613668,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958044,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:22:00","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957892<\/a>
This is incorrect. The multiculti model was known to the ancients and almost uniformly considered a curse from the heavens.","time":1778613720,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958054,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:22:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957968<\/a>
Fun fact humans cant either, theyve just been tricked into being good goys. Its why modern life is such bullshit","time":1778613729,"resto":534937062,"country":"IE","country_name":"Ireland"},{"no":534958066,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:22:19","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956946<\/a>
Value and price are not the same thing, Marx explains this at length in Volume 1.","time":1778613739,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534958073,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:22:26","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957877<\/a>
It's Judaism put into law as the political-religious mandate of the country. Leftypol is forever stuck with it's head up it's ass because it refuses to acknowledge race realism, while the billionaire class understands racial differences too well and has used them to great effect to divide the workers.","time":1778613746,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958081,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:22:37","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957892<\/a>
All empires and states have collapsed once multiculturalism actually established itself. They had some luck that people in ancient times couldn't travel around a lot so empires never were a melting pot but more like a federation of ethnic states.
With modern technology, transport and such, all multiethnic countries are experiencing a rapid decline. Even countries like Yugoslavia which had extremely similar ethnicities contained, it ultimately collapsed with a bloody ethnic conflict.
Not only are multicultural and multiracial states impossible long-term, multietnnic countries of same race are also impossible to survive long term.","time":1778613757,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534958099,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:22:51","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957990<\/a>
I do. It is you who fail to understand the very thing you are pushing.","time":1778613771,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958116,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:23:08","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957822<\/a>
The pay of CEOs is actually not that much of a problem, a CEO is a wage worker just like you. What is the real problem, is the shareholders who are "earning" a dividend, without working at all (i.e. extraction)","time":1778613788,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534958120,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:23:11","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958044<\/a>
Name a single empire in antiquity that didn't have multiple cultures","time":1778613791,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958142,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:23:44","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957968<\/a>
>other animals organize themselves into packs based on breeding (i.e. race)<\/span>
>that's why its impossible for humans to organize on race.<\/span>","time":1778613824,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958147,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:23:52","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957968<\/a>
>what is Dunbar's number<\/span>
Also pack = tribe. Thanks for playing.","time":1778613832,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958183,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:24:20","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958081<\/a>
All empires are always multicultural, so are any states of a large size. Switzerland is multicultural, they have three main national languages","time":1778613860,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958186,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:24:24","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957964<\/a>
>Does global trade exist?<\/span>
Yes. What's you're point?","time":1778613864,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958237,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:25:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>53495814<\/span>
Fucking someone doesn't mean they're your race, not that isn't the same as race","time":1778613917,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958277,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:25:51","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958120<\/a>
Well romans were famously cultural chauvanists. But i'm willing to bet you're saying that knowing of another culture and trading with them counts as being multiculti. Our current day model where your mayor and city council are all from abroad and have no cultural connection to you is the curse. "The romans talked with the greeks" is not multiculti under our current model.","time":1778613951,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958292,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:26:09","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958183<\/a>
Switzerland only survived as a parasite by keeping secrets of the world's most evil people from the public eye. It now stopped doing that and will slowly collapse.","time":1778613969,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534958314,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:26:31","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958186<\/a>
What did the wages in India and China do in that time period?","time":1778613991,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958337,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:26:54","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958147<\/a>
Not in any meaningful sense. A human tribe includes several families and generations, a pack is almost always just one family, sometimes a two or three, and then it fractures","time":1778614014,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958403,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:28:03","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958277<\/a>
Every culture in antiquity were cultural chauvanists.

I am saying their subjects included countless cultures and languages.","time":1778614083,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958446,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:28:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958292<\/a>
>>534958183<\/a>
Another thing is that empires that are truly multicultural always end up becoming highly individualistic and anti-communist, since the people don't have enough in common to advocate for collectivizing all means of production.
Take USA for example. Americans always say "I don't want to have no publicly owned X because it will always go to the niggers!"
And the trick is realizing that America was always like this, just replacing the nigger with "Irish" or "German" or "Italian" back when America was still vast-majority white.","time":1778614121,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534958461,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:28:58","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957924<\/a>
Country cannot be 30% gay because it will simply collapse sooner rather than later. For country to survive and prosper you need people to have children. It's both their patriotic duty and joy to do so. Homosexuals cannot have children, thus homosexuality is nothing more than bourgeoisie immorality.","time":1778614138,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534958466,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:29:04","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534956467<\/a>
Goodness, I hate Discord.

>>534958314<\/a>
>What did the wages in India and China do in that time period?<\/span>
Increase. I assume I was right.","time":1778614144,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958508,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:29:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957935<\/a>
china's working class didn't rise from poverty to ther current level of relative wealth by embracing race politics - they did it by embracing class politics","time":1778614186,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958569,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:30:47","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534957993<\/a>
Lol which class? You've never raised a tool in your life.
You spend your days face pressed to your phone trying to push a dead ideology in the hopes of permanent caretaking courtesy of the state on the backs of actual workers.
Like all trannies youre a parasite. No wonder every movement abandons you mentally ill perverts","time":1778614247,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958575,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:30:59","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958461<\/a>
>Country cannot be ...<\/span>
One soon will be.
>For country to survive and prosper you need people to have children<\/span>
Ah here comes the bisexuals to save the day I guess. half of those 30% LGBT are bisexuals.","filename":"1778614215221","ext":".jpg","w":1000,"h":918,"tn_w":125,"tn_h":114,"tim":1778614259355385,"time":1778614259,"md5":"m\/oOx4leULOTuEyx18+bXQ==","fsize":127187,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534958583,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:31:10","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958446<\/a>
The ruling class historically has always been multicultural, the royalty marries all over the fucking map and often invade to save each other from local revolutions. It is the workers who are kept divided, and when the ruling classes of two states are in competition for markets, they send the workers to die and kill in their little game","time":1778614270,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958614,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:31:41","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958403<\/a>
So, they weren't modern multiculti then. Modern multiculti has no subjects. It is a melange. There is no "this is the dominant culture and should be". It is an intentionally alienating mix of everything, used intentionally by the elite to subsume their underlings into a racial morass. Modern multiculti is race politics as a weapon of the elite. Class is the distraction they push. Rome is not multiculti.","time":1778614301,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958638,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:32:02","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958337<\/a>
Tribes were always blood related to a common ancestor. Your point about packs is correct, but I am talking about pre-agriculture human tribes, which were also only a few families.","time":1778614322,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958642,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:32:07","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958508<\/a>
Is your name online Slimedrinker by chance?","time":1778614327,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958712,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:33:11","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958508<\/a>
They didn't rise on their own. They were supported by westerners to use as a racial political weapon against their enemies.","time":1778614391,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958724,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:33:22","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958583<\/a>
And real monarchy collapsed for good as soon as guns became mass produced and numerous enough for the masses to rebel.
Monarchy is the one political ideology that is actually even more irrelevant today than fascism, communism. Even libertarians got their milei in office. What wins did monarchists achieve in the last 50 years?
Monarchy is probably the worst example for "benefits" of multiculturalism.","time":1778614402,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534958784,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:34:25","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958575<\/a>
That's a perfect example of a country in massive decline, not something healthy to cheer for. I'm not sure about the number either. Maybe if you count women among those bisexuals. Women perceive sexuality completely different than men.","time":1778614465,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534958821,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:34:50","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958466<\/a>
I know, I was just agreeing with you. Globalization and immigration. Pushed by kikes.","time":1778614490,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958829,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:34:55","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958583<\/a>
>the ruling class has always been racial aliens to the underclass<\/span>
>this means class is the problem.<\/span>","time":1778614495,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534958983,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:37:17","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958638<\/a>
I probably have a common ancestor with you if we go back far enough, probably with just about everyone I see and meet

>>534958829<\/a>
The ruling class has always been defined by putting their class before anything else. And that is why they rule","time":1778614637,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959048,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:38:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958784<\/a>
You make a good point. Gestures and habits that were in the past considered as completely platonic forms of love are now considered as signs of sexual attraction, and this is especially affecting women.
Hell in the past, men used to kiss each other on the cheeks and it wasn't seen as gay, imagine what the women did between each other. Now a girl might think she is lesbian because she likes holding another girl's hand and hugs her girl friends a lot.","time":1778614707,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534959158,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:40:06","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958983<\/a>
You mean race. They put their race first. There was a race ruling europe, during the time of the monarchs. It is not class, and it has never been class. Class is the distraction they push because they know it is toothless. Zuckerberg has more in common with moishe the NY tailor than he does with donald trump.","time":1778614806,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959298,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:42:12","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959048<\/a>
Plus, every young person wants to be cool and quirky, women probably even more than men. Saying you are bisexual among women is probably a safe option in which you don't have to actually do anything.","time":1778614932,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534959379,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:43:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959158<\/a>
>Zuckerberg has more in common with moishe the NY tailor than he does with donald trump<\/span>
what an absurd opinion lol","time":1778615007,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959458,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:44:39","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959298<\/a>
I think that all bisexual women did actual sexual things with other women at least once, but the reason they did it is probably because they were brainwashed that their platonic love to their girlfriends is an actual sexual attraction.
So I think they try it, they don't neccessarily like it since most women are not lesbian, and then they move on to the next quirky thing like asexual, or they keep pretending to be bisexual, but now exclusively go after men.","time":1778615079,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534959498,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:45:19","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959379<\/a>
It's true. The absurdity is claiming a plumber in the uk is more like a slave in china.","time":1778615119,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959552,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:46:07","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534958724<\/a>
>Monarchy is the one political ideology that is actually even more irrelevant today than fascism, communism<\/span>
Monarchy is relevant today because it's
- a non-materialistic alternative to fascism; "trickle down spirituality, not trickle down economics", as someone once said
- not democracy, which has a short time preference; democracy is an engine for bad ideas
- how humans lived for much of history; there's mostly no "progress" or change in humans besides technology","filename":"D_NQ_NP_976205-MLB47892296807_102021-O.webp","ext":".jpg","w":225,"h":500,"tn_w":56,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778615167125408,"time":1778615167,"md5":"VZ+kwzNegm0cJrwd\/3UzYw==","fsize":83661,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959657,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:47:46","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959552<\/a>
Hoppean monarchy is just pinochetist libertarianism pretending to be something it is not. Real monarchies like the Tsardom of Peter the Great are not looking to make a comeback any time soon.","time":1778615266,"resto":534937062,"country":"SI","country_name":"Slovenia"},{"no":534959660,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:47:48","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959158<\/a>
Racially, the ruling class was the same as their subjects eventually. At first it was the Italians under Rome, then various petty Germanic groups, but the ruling classes gradually intermarried over time, the Germanic Charlemagne traced his lineage to a Roman senator. Two rival kings of different tribes would mix their families to solidify power or peace

>Zuckerberg has more in common with moishe the NY tailor than he does with donald trump<\/span>

Trump married his daughter in Jews just like tribal rulers did before, in order to cement ties. Biden did the same with his kids. You think Netanyahu cares about a taylor more than Trump? He would not blink an eye over sacrificing a hundred thousand to protect Trump","time":1778615268,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959771,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:49:50","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959552<\/a>
Monarchies sent millions of workers to die in WWI","time":1778615390,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959850,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:51:12","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959158<\/a>
Monarchs perceived themselves as a completely separate class, even among nobility. Their status as being anointed by God and destined to rule transcended ethnic or racial lines. Oftentimes, nobles would shit on their own countrymen but intermarry with outsiders, as long as those outsiders were aristocrats too. Polish and Russian nobility intermarried with Asiatic Tatars and swarthy Georgians, as long as they were nobles as well.","filename":"George_Dawe_-_Portrait_of_General_Pyotr_Bagration_(1765-1812)_-_Google_Art_Project","ext":".jpg","w":960,"h":1123,"tn_w":106,"tn_h":125,"tim":1778615472463776,"time":1778615472,"md5":"uFsXI+Wfj9EgTgzLH9xBOg==","fsize":286431,"resto":534937062,"country":"PL","m_img":1,"country_name":"Poland"},{"no":534959855,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:51:19","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959771<\/a>
Fresh bread
>>534959831<\/a>
>>534959831<\/a>
>>534959831<\/a>","time":1778615479,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534959964,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:53:01","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959660<\/a>
Do I think a jew cares more about jews than I do goyim? Yes. This is obvious. The jews have thousands of years of writing pointing out just how much they care more about jews than goyim. Do I believe trump is more politically valuable to netanyahu than moishe? Of course. Is that care? No.

>ancients tracked races and used races as justification for rule, and would often genetically seperate themselves from their subjects<\/span>
>this means there are no racial politics in history.<\/span>

Are you intentionally this dim? You keep arguing my points for me as a refutation.","time":1778615581,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534960025,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:53:49","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959850<\/a>
Your view of monarchy started in the 1600's with the power struggle by the monarchy of France to centralize the government and take away the rights of the nobles. Prior to that, kings like Richard II were not seen as God's rep on earth except among the Byzantines","time":1778615629,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534960065,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:54:27","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534959964<\/a>
Trump's son-in-law knew Netanyahu growing up","time":1778615667,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534960216,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)15:56:35","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534960065<\/a>
And again, is that care? No. It isn't. It is political leverage.","time":1778615795,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"},{"no":534960765,"now":"05\/12\/26(Tue)16:05:59","name":"Anonymous","com":">>534960216<\/a>
It's family ties. Same reason Trump cares about Bibi","time":1778616359,"resto":534937062,"country":"US","country_name":"United States"}]}