realityis4thosewhocanthandlelsd:
doomhamster:
myfootyrthroat:
myfootyrthroat:
realityis4thosewhocanthandlelsd:
myfootyrthroat:
When online “leftists” are like “liberals are basically Nazis. They need to be rounded up and killed so that their degenerate ideas can’t infect the proletariat.”
Bruh, you think other people sound like Nazis?
No, you don’t understand what’s being said. Liberals are not ‘just like’ Nazis. The problem with liberals is they will happily support and work with Nazis whenever capitalism is criticized or if socialists are elected into power.
They happily enable Nazis and betray the people to protect corporate interests. If you don’t uunderstand this, then you need to educate yourself because it’s been happening for at least a hundred years every time socialists get close to power. It’s how the all the fascist powers get into control.
It’s odd because you put ‘just like’ in quotes as if I said it. My words are right there, and I did not. And yet you accuse me of misunderstanding…
And it’s funny that there’s always the accusation that liberals will side with fascism. Mussolini started out as a socialist. How’d that turn out? Historically you don’t have a great precedent as far as socialist leaders and eventual fascism.
I mean, the actual literal historical Nazi party was a socialist party that was subverted to fascism. Come tf on.
“Liberals betraying socialists is how all the fascist powers get into control!”
Are you. Entirely sure about that, @realityis4thosewhocanthandlelsd ?
There’s never been a government who went straight from socialism to (a reasonable facsimile of) fascism? While betraying the liberals on the way?
Not in, say, the Soviet Union? Or China?
(I mean, I’m not sure I’d take the Nazis as an example, I’ve always been under the impression their “socialism” was a highly informed attribute and that they regarded actual socialists as the enemy. Which sadly didn’t stop said socialists from thinking they could ally with the Nazis in order to fight the terrible liberals; hence the term “beefsteak Nazi”. Brown on the outside, red on the inside.)
If you want a great example of liberals enabling fascism, you need look no further than the modern democrats going along with trumpism repeatedly. Appeasing, enabling, and most of all viciously attacking any challengers from the left. They would far rather allow fascism to flourish than allow socialism to gain any foothold.
As for the USSR and the China? Power corrupts, and absolute power is what both groups had in a classic power vacuum. It would have been shocking if bad elements within those revolutions had NOT taken advantage, but they remain. Irrelevant to this argument as neither one was anything close to fascism.
No, when fascism rises out of an already existing government dominated by liberals, as were Germany and Italy, as was the USA, those liberals will always betray the people to protect their capital and the capital of the wealthy.
Here in the real world, “leftists” regularly protested Biden and Harris but Trump events go on without interruption, because blocking fascism is not their goal.
I like how when a leftist goes fascist, you’re like “well, actually they were liberal” because your brain is pudding.
I’m not saying “leftists are bad”, I’m saying “there is no political alignment someone can claim that makes them ontologically good. You still have to look at what they are actually doing and think critically,” but you took that personally because you don’t think.
