• girlactionfigure

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    In Jewish tradition, the “Tree of Life” isn’t just a symbol—it’s a way of living.

    Whether it’s the Torah that guides us, the mystical map of Kabbalah, or the values we pass down like branches from one generation to the next—the Etz Chaim reminds us to stay rooted, reach upward, and grow with purpose.

    It’s a reminder that Jewish wisdom isn’t static. It’s alive. Flourishing. And meant to be held onto tightly.

    Unpacked Media

  • thebrightestwitchofherage

    I just saw a comment saying “the Zionist movement wasn’t a thing 3000 years ago”. Yeah that’s the whole point😂😂 we were in Israel and then exiled later 😂

  • prickly-porcupine-memes

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  • One day, western leftists will need to come to terms with the fact that Arab and Islamic colonization very much did and still does exist and that the negative impacts are still felt by ethnic groups that have been and still are violently colonized and brutalized by that colonial power.

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    It’s actually really narcissistic to think that only white European or American countries can do wrong or violently colonize peoples and places. It simultaneously erases the suffering of indigenous peoples who suffered extremely at the hands of non-white colonial powers and infantilizes non-white people by believing they somehow aren’t able to do bad things.

    You should be able to recognize that some groups can be oppressed minorities in America and still be majority oppressors in other places.

  • captainlordauditor

    Western leftists will talk about how North America used to have 500 languages and then refuse to think about why Morocco speaks Arabic

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  • hillsofspices

    people who spent the past number of years calling for global intifada and the destruction of israel now want to call themselves “anti-war” and clutch their pearls at the threat of global conflict. like what did you think you were advocating for this whole time lol

  • chutzpahchesed

    A week after an Iranian missile fatally struck a building in Petah Tikva, it was revealed that Holocaust survivor Yvette Shmilovich, 95, was one of the four people killed in the barrage. She is survived by three granddaughters and four great-grandchildren. Shmilovich will be laid to rest Tuesday at noon at the Segula Cemetery.

    Petah Tikva Mayor Rami Greenberg said in a statement: "On behalf of the city's residents, I send a big hug to the family, and strengthen them at this difficult time. The Petah Tikva Municipality will accompany the family and assist as necessary, as it does with other families who lost their loved ones in the severe damage."

    The mayor added: "We bow our heads and mourn the murder of four of the city's residents who were killed following the missile attack from Iran. Dear, beloved people, whose only sin was wanting to live a peaceful and safe life. May their memory be blessed."

    Shmilovich participated in the "Good Hands" project of the Holocaust Survivors' Rights Authority. Referring to the deaths of Shmilovich and Holocaust survivor Bella Ashkenazi of Bat Yam, who was also killed by an Iranian missile strike, the Authority said in a statement that "the life journey of those who survived the horrors of the Holocaust was cruelly cut short, but their message as those who rose from the ashes and built their home and people, lives on among us."

    "In their death, they command us to walk the paths of hope and resurrection, and this is how we will remember them, as women who illuminated their surroundings," the Holocaust Survivors' Rights Authority also said, adding: "The Authority's employees are at the disposal of the family members of Yvette and Bella. May their souls be wrapped in the bundle of life."

    The Iranian missile strike in Petah Tikva also killed Daisy Yitzhaki and the Yaakov and Desi Bello. An initial investigation by the Home Front Command into the ballistic missile impact revealed that it struck directly at the wall between two reinforced security rooms (Mamad) in a residential building—a direct hit by such a particularly heavy missile left no chance for the protective infrastructure to prevent casualties.

    Hundreds of residents of the neighborhood where the missile fell were evacuated from their homes. The IDF said that the standard for anti-aircraft missiles states that the purpose of anti-aircraft missiles against missiles of the type fired from Iran is to absorb the impact - and therefore a direct hit breaks it. However, the army emphasizes that anti-aircraft missiles are still the main and safest lifesaver.

    Hundreds of residents from the neighborhood where the missile struck were evacuated from their homes. The IDF stated that the standard for reinforced security rooms (Mamad) is designed primarily to absorb blast waves from missiles like those fired from Iran—therefore, a direct hit can breach them. Nonetheless, the military emphasized that the Mamad remains the primary and safest life-saving shelter.

  • i-can-kazoo

    I bring a "zionism is first and foremost a term and philosophy for jews that was co-opted by both sides of the political spectrum because they aren't allowed to say kike anymore" vibe to the function that frankly makes a lot of people uncomfortable

  • thebrightestwitchofherage

    PSA: Zionism is the notion of Jewish self-determination in the land of Israel and not some evil entity you can use as a slur instead of saying "Jewish."

  • labelma

    I’m seeing a lot of people claim that the remaining hostages, by virtue of being IDF members are not hostages but prisoners of war. Which, fine, you can make that argument. But if that was the case, under the Third Geneva Convention, prisoners of war have very specific rights, including not being held in close confinement, not being tortured, getting adequate food and water, being given access to medical treatment, being allowed contact with the outside world and their loved ones, and of course visitation by the International Red Cross.

    Not a single one of these conditions has been met. They aren’t prisoners of war. They’re hostages. And the International Red Cross doesn’t care about Jews.

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    Also, out of the 22 remaining living hostages, only three are IDF soldiers (Matan Angrest, Nimrod Cohen, and Tamir Nimrodi). The other 19 are civilians.

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by labelma
  • gingerswagfreckles

    Like they swear up and down they care about "real" antisemitism but then say Jews are "whining" when Holocaust survivors get set on fire?? Like girl the cognitive dissonance??? Just admit you're a Nazi I promise you'll be more at peace.

  • king-shit-thembo

    surreal but not surprising to see goyische Americans go "Oh no, WWIII is about to break out, I'm gonna die 😰" after two years of them telling American Jews that we're "overreacting" and "making everything about ourselves" as hate crimes directed at our community skyrocket, most recently with two people being murdered outside a Jewish museum and peaceful Jewish protestors being set on fire.

    come complain to me after you've received a string of emails detailing the stringent security measures your vulnerable community is taking to protect itself

  • king-shit-thembo

    Post saying anyone who reblogs it would punch a Nazi: 100k+ notes

    Post begging goyim to love and support Jews: 100 notes, almost exclusively Jews reblogging with a few pity goyische likes

  • afurioushawk

    In the left's Jew-hating brain rot for Israel, they reinvent the exact same "America first" rhetoric that MAGA used to decimate USAID.

  • I almost wonder why it was this foreign policy "thing" that they wrapped their lips around both barrels, I mean aside from the obvious Antisemetism at play.

    Israel's been in turmoil like this before, and it probably will be again. I don't remember the 2nd Intifada but from what I've read there's a lot of resemblence. Like do things just...go back to "normal" after this? Violence dies down, the left chickens out and the world keeps on spinning?

    Has this all just fucking happened before?

  • afurioushawk

    I can't speak for Israel, but things here in the United States will never be the same after leftists cheered for 10/7 and have gone on to suck terrorist dick for Iran and all its proxies. Eventually a new "normal" will emerge, but it's one where bridges have been permanently burned and trust will never be reestablished with people who simped for the Ayatollah.

    The left revealed they would sacrifice every single principle they claimed to have if it meant they could kill every single Israeli (and Jew) on the planet.

    There is no coming back from that. 10/7 was as big a pivotal turning point here as 9/11, despite not happening on our soil.

  • pagecommando

    As much as I hate the "Jews are the canary in the coal mine" saw, 10/7 and the reaction to same proved that
    1) The western left will syncretize around the same shit nazis do in order to boost their movements
    2) Said left will become a death cult vulnerable to talking points from radicals that dehumanize the people around them
    3) Said Death cult sifts itself for purity and targets insufficiently pure and vulnerable minorities in the same way white supremacists do. They say the same shit about black voters. They call LGBT people Degenerates. etc etc etc.
    4) If they decide other minorities are at fault/impure/Democratic/Etc they will target them to 'punish' instead of directing their ire at the GOP or trumpists
    5) When Trump/GOP cracks down, they will blame Jews/minorities more.
    6) Cycle repeats.

    At a certain point they're just Strasserists/Beefsteak Nazis themselves.

    If they were committed antizionists they'd be crawling over broken glass to protect Jews outside of Israel. Instead they're picking up guns and firebombs.

  • hero-israel

    They didn't abandon only the Jews. They abandoned any group with any other social need, Palestine is the one and only value.

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  • girlactionfigure

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    shmads.y

    Please tell us more about the places you’ve never set foot in.

  • Anonymous sent:

    I would be fascinated to know what the western leftist people think of Liberia.

    (Actually, no I wouldn’t. I don’t need another headache.)

    It might be funny to see them tie themselves in knots, though. Particularly the white Americans, the further they scroll through the Wikipedia entry for the first time.

  • unsolicited-opinions replied:
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    Quick recap of the relevant history:

    Liberia is a West African country founded in the 19th century by freed Black US slaves with support from the American Colonization Society. These settlers (called Americo-Liberians) established a society that in many ways replicated the racial hierarchies of the American South…but with themselves at the top.

    They ruled over the indigenous African populations in ways that explicitly and deliberately mirrored colonial oppression, despite being formerly oppressed themselves…for 133 years.

    Anon is pointing out that this history:

    • Involves Black Americans playing the role of colonizers and elite rulers…which doesn’t fit neatly into common activist frameworks.
    • Complicates the oppressed/oppressor binary often used in Western leftist discourse.
    • Poses a challenge to simplistic narratives about colonialism, racism, and power.

    However, Anon may be underestimating the ability and determination of some Western leftists to rationalize and cognitively distort in defense of their binary.

    Here are some of the narrative-defending responses I’d anticipate from this crowd if they were faced with these facts:

    “Well, obviously the Americo-Liberians had involuntarily internalized white supremacy.”
    When in doubt, blame colonial trauma for literally everything…including becoming the colonizer.

    “This just proves how toxic Western imperialism is - it even turns its victims into villains!”
    Even when oppressed people oppress others, they cannot be seen as having agency.

    “Liberia was a CIA plot to discredit pan-Africanism!”
    They’ll say this despite the fact that Liberia was founded in 1847…about a century before the CIA came into existence.

    “We shouldn’t focus on what Americo-Liberians did wrong - it’s racist tone policing and distracts from Western colonial crimes!”
    Moral relativism kicks in whenever oppressed people do the oppressing.

    “It’s complicated, but Israel is still worse!”
    Their thought-terminating cliche for all purposes.

    “Why are you even bringing this up!? Are you trying to undermine solidarity with Palestine?!”
    Any historical facts which don’t serve the narrative is treated as an attack, treated with hostility

    “The real issue is that white Americans forced Black people into the position of power. They were set up to fail!”
    Oppression is a pyramid scheme and everyone’s a victim if you squint hard enough.

    “Maybe the indigenous Liberians were reactionary anyway. Don’t romanticize them.
    Yes, they might well pivot to defending settler-colonial behavior…as long as they don’t regard the settlers as white/European.

    _____

    For those committed to viewing history through a sacred binary, considering Liberia is a horrifying theological heresy. It asks them to do something obscene and unthinkable:

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    The example of Liberia makes it clear that having been oppressed doesn’t automatically make anyone just…and that historical injustice doesn’t absolve anyone from responsibility.

    If that complicates your activism…?

    Good.

    Complexity isn’t the enemy of justice, but false binaries are.

  • chutzpahchesed

    guess who didn’t abide by the terms of a ceasefire

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    it’s unclear what this will mean for the agreement moving forward.

  • chutzpahchesed

    hours into the agreed upon time, they’ve broken it again.

    the death toll is now five. z”l

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  • iswearbyalltheflowers

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    Thinking of this paragraph from Dara Horn wrt today's daf yomi

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by iswearbyalltheflowers
  • jewtism

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    “erm- erm- b-but you sh-shouldn’t be conflating jewish people with Israel 🤓 ☝”

    (also, “but also the safety and well being of all people” is basically saying “all lives matter”. goyim really always have to make it about themselves.)

  • freegazafromhamas

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  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by sharkboxes
    Anonymous sent:

    No Iron dome?

  • deadseashennanigans replied:

    wow way to taunt about iran firing missiles straight at civilian centers. Sure speaks to your character

  • homochadensistm

    The Iron Dome isn't what shoots down ballistic missiles, so anon is correct - no iron dome!!

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by deadseashennanigans
    Anonymous sent:

    “We can do it in America, why can’t we do it here?”

    That has got to be one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve ever heard. A mockumentary about left-wing activists could not have scripted that better.

    I’m trying to imagine the level of delusional self-confidence a person would need to say that out loud and sincerely.

    These righteous activists keep using the term “anti-colonialism”. I don’t think it means what they think it means. (Unless they think, because they believe themselves to be the “good guys”, it doesn’t apply to them? “No, you don’t understand, mr Egyptian man. *I* can come here and lecture you (in English) and tell you how you should run your country and how you should behave and what I (as an American) should be allowed to do in your country and it’s NOT colonialism or missionary work or white saviourism because I’m right and you’re wrong.”

  • unsolicited-opinions replied:

    💯

    No notes.

    (Re: March for Gaza activists)

  • queenofnots

    "where are the democrats!?" you didn't vote for them. they have no power. because you didn't vote for them. so...? what would you have them do. since you didn't vote for them. y'all just want leftist trump. you just want another dictator but who kills the people you want. you are no different.

    I am reclaiming 'both sides are the same' for liberals/progressives. Yeah both far right and far left are the god damn same.

  • Anonymous sent:

    Re: ethnic erasure

    You should check out how certain notable people of non-Arab ethnics groups are reduced to "Islamic mathematican/scientist/etc" and sometimes even outright "Arab". Just because Al-Khwarizmi was forced to publish his work in Arabic doesn't mean he was an Arab. Him being a Muslim alone is debated. One of his epithets was "al-Majusi" which openly refers to Zoroastrianism. He was not an Arab. He was of Persian descendant, living under an empire that enforced every scholar in the area to write in Arabic.

    Of course those are all in the past now but doesn't mean history revisionism is okay.

  • homochadensistm replied:

    I’m so glad the Hebrew versions of everything remain untouched. I don’t even use the English Wikipedia anymore. al Khwarizmi is still Persian in Hebrew 😎

  • mascula-sappho

    "you have to support Hamas/IRGC to be an ally to muslims!! Calling them terrorists is islamophobia!1!1!"

    hate to break it to you, oh sanctimonious white person, but the overwhelming majority of Muslims worldwide are normal people who don't support murder and are in fact the #1 victims of these "governments". No, it is not normal for a religion to be based on violence and the glorification of death. Supporting and platforming groups who don't represent Islam and are instead death cults is in fact Islamophobic, as is claiming that these groups accurately represent Islam as a whole. That is equating Islam = terrorism, which is racist. You are racist.

  • outraged-honk

    It's crazy how white people project so damn hard... They also love vicarious violence so much they ignore the voices they claim to support.

    Westerns: "you have to support *terrorist organization*, they are fighting for liberation! They are too busy fighting evil (((Israel))) to protest!". Meanwhile too lazy, and privileged to even look into the history of the region and doings of the terrorists that kill their own people enmass, starve them, keep them in poverty. Etc.

    Civilians from the area: "I am an innocent civilian from the area and the *terrorist group* is killing us for protesting against them"

    West: "That's Propaganda!!!", "fake news", "they were looting and rioting"

  • jewishgay4il

    It's actually INFURIATING when people cry about Israeli "apartheid" when *I'm* the one banned from certain areas my family used to live in, when Muslim countries literally ban any non-Muslims from driving to certain areas, when pretty much anyone is welcome in Israel if they don't threaten to murder Jews.

  • notaplaceofhonour

    even the system of roads in the West Bank that are the closest to a concrete example I’ve ever gotten of what people are talking about when they call Israel “apartheid” are more restrictive towards Jewish-Israelis than Arabs/Palestinians

  • jewishgay4il

    Yep, I was driving last week somewhere in Yush and passed by at least 4 signs saying I could not drive down a certain road because I am an Israeli citizen.

    Meanwhile, there were plenty of cars with white plates around me

  • Anonymous sent:

    the craziest part about being a progressive jewish new yorker right now is that brad lander is right there!!!! he has (much) more relevant experience, he has more practical (but still progressive!) policies, and he is just as charismatic as zohran mamdani. and yet every single progressive i know (mostly goyim but also some jewish anti zionists) has always from day one been all in on mamdani and barely gives brad lander a serious glance. i know politics are politics and he’s younger and conventionally attractive which certainly helps. but i can’t help thinking a large part of the reason why people like zohran is because of his antisemitism. they would never admit that, of course, but of course it’s appealing to have someone mirroring your antisemitism back to you from a large platform and be validated that it’s not that bad. and of course you just don’t know about brad lander, something about him just doesn’t speak to you, he doesn’t seem trustworthy or like a Real progressive, despite decades of evidence otherwise. i wonder if maybe it’s because he’s jewish….? no that couldn’t be (/s)

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  • q8overseas

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    Many questions have been raised regarding the lineage of modern Jews. Approximately 84% of Israeli Jews are descendants of Eastern European immigrants, tracing their ancestry to the Khazar tribes—an ethnically Turkic people with roots in regions such as Poland, Romania, Russia, Ukraine, and Lithuania. The Khazars were originally a pagan people expelled from Asia who eventually settled in Eastern Europe. In the 7th century AD, their king—referred to in some sources as King Bulan—converted to Judaism, leading his people to adopt the faith as well.


    As such, these groups are not ethnically Semitic and have no direct lineage to the ancient Israelites of Moses’ time. They are distinct from the early Jewish populations of the Middle East.


    Historically, the original Semitic Jews suffered significant upheaval, including the Babylonian conquest in 596 BC. Many were killed, and the survivors were taken into captivity in Babylon. This event marked a significant disruption in their genealogical continuity, with only a few managing to flee northward. Some of these refugees reached the Khazar territories and, according to tradition, played a role in influencing the Khazar king’s decision to adopt Judaism.


    In conclusion, the modern Jewish population in Israel originates from nearly 100 different nationalities and ethnic backgrounds, and is not united by a single common ethnic origin.

  • the-library-alcove

    Genetic studies on Jews have found no substantive evidence of a Khazar origin among Ashkenazi Jews. Geneticists such as Doron Behar and others (2013) have concluded that such a link is unlikely, noting that it is difficult to test the Khazar hypothesis using genetics because there is lack of clear modern descendants of the Khazars that could provide a clear test of the contribution to Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, but found no genetic markers in Ashkenazi Jews that would link them to peoples of the Caucasus/Khazar area.

    The Khazar hypothesis is sometimes cited in antisemitic arguments promoted by adherents of various movements and ideologies to express the belief that modern Jews are not true descendants of the Israelites. For example, some anti-Zionists may cite the Khazar hypothesis in an attempt to discredit the claim by modern Jews to the land of Israel.

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    It's always funny watching people try to cite the thoroughly debunked Khazer myth as a way to hide their Jew-hate.

  • sillyjewishbug

    someone else has probably said this, but im realizing with each passing day that one can either be a safe jew or a proud jew. and right now there are no safe jews, so that leaves me with one choice.

    am yisrael chai <3

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by sillyjewishbug
  • redwiccanrobin

    A tankie responded to one of my Ukraine posts saying that they would care about Ukraine if “they weren’t run by Nazis” so I looked at their page; they were constantly using antisemitic slurs. Make no mistake, tankies love Nazis, they’re just a bunch of performative fucks who don’t care about humanity.

  • 2peachy

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    It is not a “we” unless Israel does it, then it’s a collateral “they” associated with the wars.

    We we we but yall will never care about us. Y’all don’t even actually care about them. It was always related to the fat ego and savior complex but at least now they can truly say “not in our name”.

    Like fuck off none of you are in danger atm meanwhile whole building blocks and streets are decimated here. But I guess it’s okay because “we” don’t deserve the grace Americans give themselves.

  • evilwickedme

    Don't forget Israelis and Jews are all to blame for the Israeli government's actions, "not in our name", but when someone yells "free Palestine" as they shoot or firebomb Jews that's not even antisemitism let alone leftist terrorism

  • Anonymous sent:

    i know this varies by source but do you actually believe that iran has nuclear weapons? the exact same reason was used to go to war against iraq and there were no womd. im only wondering about this detail not whether iran helps the fund terrorist groups or w/e cause that one ik it's been proven

  • homochadensistm replied:

    I don’t think they have them NOW but they absolutely were gunning for them, as per the IRGCs own admissions over and over again from the moment of its inception.

    Iran and Iraq are nothing alike. Iraq was not the #1 global exporter of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism, it didn’t create and fund proxy militias all across the middle east to destabilize every single state in the region, it didn’t plan and execute terror attacks against jews all over the world. I know it’s very easy to fall into that comparison for Americans but these are entirely 2 different situations. The only similarity is using the WMD claim to justify beheading the country, because ofc jews can’t go “I am going to smack these ppl once and for all to stop them from fucking with me” to the world and be accepted.

  • hillsofspices

    me when i’m making a list of everyone that i hope has a good day

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  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by hillsofspices
  • lem0nademouth

    i need leftists to cope with their post 9/11 + Iraq/Afghan wars Islamophobia guilt in a way that doesn’t involve erasing the fact that, like it or not, Islam is a proselytizing religion that has fueled centuries of colonization, genocide, and imperialism. idealizing Islam as a purer, better alternative to Christianity is in itself Islamophobic, and it also ignores the many communities who have suffered at the hands of Islamic imperialism. it is possible to not be Islamophobic while acknowledging that.

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by lem0nademouth
  • cartoonverisimilitude

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    We can talk about how there’s definitely a racism/Islamaphobia issue in a lot of Jewish communities without…*flips through notebook* literal saying Jewish people should assimilate and give up their Jewishness (ie cultural genocide)

    These antisemites are getting way too comfortable and I don’t like it

  • the-library-alcove

    Gee, I wonder why Jews might be extremely anxious when they're totally at someone's mercy in a healthcare situation where it would be absurdly easy to maim or kill them?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20250208090620/https://www.thejc.com/opinion/analysis/the-antisemitism-rooted-in-the-us-healthcare-system-lsv0d1bx

    https://antisemitism.org/trainee-pharmacist-sentenced-after-writing-hope-we-kill-hundreds-more-of-you-to-israel-student-society-following-action-by-caa/

    Nah, we must be imagining the threat. It's not like we don't feel like we're playing Russian Roulette every time we go to a new medical environment... and seeing a group of people wearing Palestinian flags certainly won't feel like hearing the bullet enter the chamber!

  • daughterofstories

    So, I did literally a single google search, and "The policy, part of an updated uniform and dress code policy, prohibits staff from wearing or displaying items that might align with a “particular nation, political party, one side in a conflict or causes that are not directly linked to and supported by the trust or the NHS”."

    They didn't "ban the Palestinian flag" they banned all national or political symbols, because you are supposed to be there as a doctor, not a political activist.

    Oh, and three employees who are suing about the policy are open that they want to indicate their political position, not their identity.

    "In their legal claim the three employees argue that the policy is applied in a way that disproportionately affects staff who wish to express pro-Palestinian views, particularly considering ongoing events in Gaza."

    Here's the media bias/fact check page for Leigh Journal for those who, like me, weren't familiar with it. Sufficient to say, it's a good source.

    They were wearing it as a political statement, and the political position of Western "pro-Palestinian" groups has frequently and explicitly been that murdering random Jews is praxis.

  • daughterofstories

    Also, given that this was a London hospital, we should probably mention the nine year old British Jewish boy with an autoimmune disorder who won't go to the hospital wearing anything identifiably Jewish anymore after the time he was forced to receive a blood transfusion lying on the floor of a hospital because nurses wearing "free Palestine" pins kicked him out of his bed.

  • mascula-sappho

    really bold of antisemites to come onto jumblr and try to win an argument. like we are professional arguers. get clowned on. we have been arguing about stuff for fun for like 2,500 years. I dare you to win an argument. my family has had arguments about everything from the capabilities of shrimp to categorizing napkin positions. our religious texts are full of ditch digging specifications and property law and how deep one should bow in (x) situation. You cannot talk to a rabbi without getting at least one book recommendation. Come on give us a challenge instead of screaming buzzwords. You have to say we are lying because that is the only way for you to compete. Smh ...

  • scooperdipoop

    Do you agree the nation state of Israel is engaging in the crime of Genocide, yes or no? You may elaborate your answer but pick one first.

  • daughterofstories

    No.

    Because innocent until proven guilty is a concept that exists in legal contexts, and this exact question has been posed to the ICJ, who have not made the determination that Israel is engaging in the crime of Genocide, and the former head of the ICJ (she retired after the ICJ published their last preliminary ruling) publicly clarified that their finding was not that it's plausible Israel is engaging in the crime of Genocide.

    (They found that it's plausible that South Africa has a right to bring a lawsuit about whether there is genocide occurring, which is entirely a ruling about how the treaty is written and doesn't make any claim about there being any evidence of such a crime occurring, which should tell you something.)

    Also, all of the actual publicly available facts point to no, as setting up entire new humanitarian organizations to ensure that aid actually reaches the people and isn't stolen in not exactly a component of genocide, but I figure the ICJ is a better authority than anybody on tumblr.edu, and they have very much not found Israel guilty, despite the case having been in front of them for over a year.

  • diamondsandphoenixfire

    No.

    If Israel’s actions fitted the definition of genocide, both Ireland and Amnesty International would simply use that definition.

    If Israel’s actions were close enough to the definition of genocide that it would fit if you stretched it a little, both Ireland and Amnesty International would still be able to, with some distortion, use that definition.

    So what does it tell you that instead of either of those, both Ireland and Amnesty International have proposed new, apparently Israel-only definitions of genocide?

    How far from fact must those accusations be to take such a huge risk?

    Moreover, a genocide is “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,” which is exactly what occurred when the Arab armies invaded Israel at midnight on the day of its founding to “throw the Jews into the sea.

    You know, the war that defined the West Bank and Gaza for the first time, as parts of Jordan and Egypt.

  • Anonymous sent:

    nobody has a right to an ethnostate. god didn’t promise you that. it’s actually almost exactly the same as the idea behind manifest destiny, which killed so many of the people who’s cultural context you’re apparently so familiar with

  • westasianblues replied:

    Anon, you seem to have a strange fixation on my wording regarding culture.

    The wording is simply my way of communicating: I did not grow up with the “standard American” cultural experience. That my connection to Native American identity is not simply through disconnected/questionable ancestry like many who claim it, it is through falling asleep in the backseat to old tapes of chanting and drums played in the car on long drives home, being told important rules around handling animal remains and parts, reading Apache folk stories, and a lot of other specific and influential developmental experiences.

    Manifest Destiny was built on the belief of foreign peoples with a foreign, proselytizing and imperialist religion, who established a government and territory on these lands and sought to expand it, resulting in the Louisiana purchase and subsequently, wars for the formerly Spanish territories. Some of my ancestors were directly impacted and displaced by policies and actions taken by the US government as a result of this.

    You presume to speak to me in this manner, supposedly on behalf of those who suffered and were killed as a result of US imperialism and expansion. Yet you make false equivalence, you misrepresent history, and you speak down to me.

    Manifest Destiny also resulted in the forced conversion of Native Americans to Christianity. Forcibly converting millions of Indigenous peoples to a foreign religion, is something the Jewish people have not done but that has been done to Jews. Something that has been done to Jews and Samaritans in the land of Israel. By Christians and Muslims.

    Judaism originates in the region that is now Israel and the Palestinian territories/Judea and Samaria, but the establishment of Israel was not because of divine right to the land- which is something you actually find in both Christian and Islamic doctrines, by the way. It is because of ancestral, heritage ties. Jews maintain a culture and spirituality deeply, intrinsically connected to the land of Israel- how to act as its steward, how to live on it. Everything the Jewish people are comes from that land and could not exist without that land.

    Very curious if you have ever been to a tribal reservation, know how tribal lands and governments work, and if you would view a sovereign Native American territory in the US as an ethnostate, which you seem to have equated with something morally reprehensible.

  • mascula-sappho

    Again pointing out that nobody knows what colonization is other than Vague Original White People Sin and so Jews as the ultimate expression of "white supremacy" in their minds absolutely cannot Not be colonizers because then the actual colonizers (white Americans primarily) have to actually face the uncomfy truth that they still have colonizer mindsets. Jews are the perfect scapegoat to offset white guilt without doing any of the icky hard stuff. That's why antisemitism is so prevalent right now. We, a tiny middle Eastern culture, are blamed for whatever you are upset about (the plague, economic hardship, being white, etc.) and we are so small that most of you have zero knowledge of our culture and we are easily scapegoated because you have never met us. Also you can just say we are lying when we point out how wrong this whole framework is. Anyway thank you for your excellent response @westasianative I'm just spit balling here

  • girlactionfigure

    The IDF bombed the entrance to a prison in Iran, which holds many political prisoners who were incarcerated for their opinions and actions which go against the Islamic Regime.

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  • the-library-alcove

    The degree to which American-centric goggles color everything is astonishingly irritating, but I guess it's not that surprising; for all that American Leftists like to claim they're against US Imperialism, they're really quite ready to impose their limited worldview on other people's geopolitics.

    So.

    Having finally hit my limit on this, a list of things I've personally witnessed American Leftists claim Israeli geopolitics are "like", presented as rebuttals.

    1. No, Palestinians are not like Native Americans.
    2. No, Palestinians are not like African-Americans.
    3. No, Israelis are not like American Settlers.
    4. No, Gaza and the West Bank are not like Native Reservations.
    5. No, the situation in Israel is not like the Western Settlement.
    6. No, Israeli aid to Gaza is not like smallpox blankets.
    7. No, Zionism is not like Manifest Destiny.
    8. No, there is no plan for "Greater Israel" like there was for "sea to shining sea".
    9. No, there are no "Indian Schools" for Palestinians run by Israel.
    10. No, the Nakba was not like the Trail of Tears.
    11. No, the Gaza Border Fence is not like the Texas Border Fence.
    12. No, Palestinians coming in to Israel to work is not like Latinos coming into America to work.
    13. No, fearmongering about Latinos by Republicans is not like the well-substantiated fears about Hamas terrorists crossing the border.
    14. No, the border checkpoints are not like ICE.
    15. No, Palestinians do not, generally speaking, want to become Israelis.
    16. No, Palestinians are not being "blocked from Israeli citizenship".
    17. No, Palestinians are not being "prevented from voting in Israel", because they're not Israeli citizens.
    18. No, the conflict with Iran is not like Trump threatening to invade Mexico to attack the Cartels.
    19. No, the conflict with Iran is not like Bush invading Iraq to deal with nonexistent WMDs.
    20. No, Israel's attack on Gaza is not like America's post-9/11 attack on Iraq.
    21. No, Israel is not attacking either Gaza or Iran for oil.
    22. No, the "states" in a "two-state solution" are not like American states.
    23. No, the medical care Israel gives to Palestinians is not like the Tuskegee Airmen.
    24. No, Arab Israelis are not living under anything like Jim Crow.
    25. No, the Israeli prime minister is not like the American President.
    26. No, the Knesset is not like the US Congress--they have more than two parties, for starters.
    27. No, "Al-Quds" is not like Mount Rushmore... at least, not in the way you think it is.

    I'm done for the moment, but if anyone else has any to add to the list, feel free to toss them in.

  • indecisiveavocado

    Al-Quds is like mount Rushmore, in that it's built on another culture's holy site by their historic oppressors!

    also if gaza has oil, why the fuck do they need to import israeli electricity! jesus christ!

    although tbf the knesset is kinda like the us congress in that there's an unnervingly large batshit deranged openly racist wing.

  • xclowniex

    So apparently breaking into a synagogue and vandalizing torah scrolls is not antisemetic according to London police?

    Like I'm sorry but out of every attack on jews and jewish institutions recently, how is this one not labeled antisemitic by police????

  • hermthejewishwyrm

    THEY TORE UP TORAH SCROLLS?!?!? THATS ONE OF THE MOST ANTISEMETIC THINGS YOU CAN DO. THEY HAVE THE NAME OF HASHEM INUMERABLE TIMES. THEY OUR ARE LAWS AND HISTORY AND STORY. THEY COST THOUSANDS AND TAKE YEARS TO PERSONALLY HAND WRITE


    I AM SO SO DISGUSTED

  • bilgisticallykosher

    Glad they were arrested. They did this Friday morning. Probably intentionally before Shabbat.

    "Police told Jewish News that there was no indication that the vandalism was antisemitic."

    :|

    This is literally pogrom shit.

  • chutzpahchesed

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    Your parents ended up emigrating to Israel in 1988 when you were in university. You wore a yellow pin honoring the October 7 Israeli hostages at The White Lotus premiere in February.

    I always wear it if I’m on a red carpet and a press line.

    Public sentiment on Gaza seems to have shifted a lot since then. I wonder where you are right now on the issue?

    Where I am is either a full magazine or no comment about it, because two or three sentences in a profile are not enough to deal with the issues. I wear the hostage pin because there are innocent people who were taken from their homes. Most of them are peace activists who lived in border communities where they were ferrying sick kids to hospitals and working with people from Gaza constantly. There are Holocaust survivors, there are children who were taken, there are people being starved and tortured and raped who have no access to the Red Cross. People are rightfully talking and thinking about all the civilians that are in danger everywhere else. But those people in tunnels, it’s now 600 days they’ve been there, they’ve been forgotten entirely. And so I wore the pin once and the hostages’ families got in touch with me and they thanked me enormously. I now am aware that they are watching me and that it matters to them. If my son or sister or daughter or father was being kept in a tunnel somewhere and weighed 25 kilos now, or may have been strangled or shot, and it felt important to me that some actors somewhere wore the yellow hostage pin, then who am I to not wear it?

    So when it comes to more nuanced arguments about Netanyahu and the right-wing lunatics in the cabinet, or whether the IDF is or isn’t doing things, or this new Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is or isn’t handing out food correctly, or whether Hamas’s press releases should be printed as fact, and whether there aren’t journalists in there — there are so many complicated arguments. It isn’t a place to dip one’s toe or to have a simple quote on it. What I wish for everybody, obviously, is peace. Who doesn’t? I don’t know anybody, apart from the extremists on all sides, who want either continued war or tension.

    The argument that you make for the ribbon is a humane one. Why don’t you think more actors have worn them?

    Because just for wearing it, I’ve been called a Zionist baby killer, a Zionazi. Even a yellow hostage pin for innocents is deemed political, which it isn’t.

  • Anonymous sent:

    you are obviously way more educated than me on iran but its just crazy absolutely bonker bananas to me that 1) people actively choose to get a worse more authoritharian goverment 2) persians in general have historically been culturally different than arabs which makes it even weirder 3) islam in persia is literally colonization. like i just cannot understand how ppl WANTED this and FOUGHT for it and like just accept it. its absolutely insane.

    but also its crazy how the whole world keeps buying their stupid oil instead of giving them a full blackout bc capitalism etc etc. the whole thing is bonkers

  • homochadensistm replied:

    Its more complicated than this. Iranians lived under a secular but oppressive monarchy before the Islamic Revolution. Everyone wanted the Shah gone, but not everyone wanted the revolution to be specifically Islamic. Iran is a huge, ethnically diverse place. Persians only make up around 40 something % iirc, and theyre not a monolith. The middle-higher class, educated Iranians living in big cities wanted democracy to replace the Shah, while the lower class, small village peasants wanted the Ayatollah, or specifically - Khomeini. Seeing as there are more lower class than middle-upper class ppl - Islam won, as it usually does when the majority of ur population is poor and uneducated. Only some people wanted this, and they got what they wanted.

  • homochadensistm

    Another important point is that the Shah was put there as an American puppet, after the British and US govts forcefully overthrew the democratically elected Mossadegh, because he wanted to nationalize Irans natural resources, specifically the oil, and that wouldve made the British-American plundering of Iran very difficult. So the Shah was not seen as a legitimate leader by almost anyone.

  • Anonymous sent:

    You said in tags,

    IRGC masterplan: throw missiles at ppl who have been dealing with missiles for 30yrs jhsdfbfhjdb

    and it's exactly what the west doesn't fucking understand about us: they whine that we don't feel the war as keenly because we have bomb shelters, but honey, why do you think we have bomb shelters??? they say that you have to look at the context for october 7, but loveydove, how did you think the generation of the second intifada was going to react to that???

    It's just, this absurdist comedy where we're prepared for them because they took the time to prepare us. the good humor with which we're out here coping with this shit? The reason the hottest facebook account right now is the פשוטע? it's their own fucking doing. we didn't ask to be like this, they forged us

  • homochadensistm replied:

    Truly lmao these ppl r whack. TeL aViV iS buRNinG iSrAELiS r FLeEinG meanwhile TLVivians at the literal site of the missile crash in a cafe with all its glass windows blown out, a day later:

  • kwippo

    I didn’t realize people were that dumb until I saw a video of someone claiming, “Now Israelis will finally understand what it feels like to be bombed.”
    And I was like — ????????????
    What are you talking about? We’ve been bombed forever.
    In my town, there’s a tree with an aberrant trunk because it was struck by Egypt in 1948.
    Here is an interactive map demonstrating the number of red alert sirens from missiles and rockets directed at Israel since 2019:

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    If you're wondering why the southern part has no alerts it's because it's practically a desert.

    Since the beginning of the war these are the numbers of alarms we had since October 7th 2023:

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    Like bitches, my childhood was the 2nd Intifada with suicide terror attacks.

    I knew nothing but war my entire life.
    * Dumbasses who would not understand what I'm talking about: No, this is not a justification of what's going on in Gaza rn.

  • inlowearthorbit

    "Israel is the middle eastern puppet of the USA"

    Well it is refreshing to see the puppet accusations going in that order, I must say.

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  • Anonymous sent:

    I believe that there are sincere anti-Zionist Jews, but I don't believe that the people whose ONLY interest in Jewish activism and Jewish radicalism is anti-Zionism have anything worthwhile to say. Where is your interest in Jewish feminism? Jewish gay activists? If you think that Jews are only allowed to organize visibly as Jews when they're being the Good Anti-Zionist Jews and the rest of the time they need to melt into the general population,your opinion is worthless

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  • turbomitzvah

    That's $12 billion in donations from Qatar and China to US universities talking

  • darrengrave

    I'm sorry every day just... the u.s. leftwing talking points are just getting more and more like... are we paying attention to ANY of the CONTEXT of world events AT ALL??? Or are we making snap moral judgements on headlines alone. Yknow. The thing your maga relatives do.

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by darrengrave
  • biglawbear

    You know US millennials and younger have known peace for most of their lives because of how many of them are screaming crying throwing up about WWIII because the US dropped a few bombs on one country

    It's just downright fucking disrespectful at this point

    Not only did millions die in WWIII, but estimates of hundreds of thousands died in US-backed wars against Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc in the twenty -aughts and -teens

    This isn't even close to the scale of war in Ukraine, or Sudan that are like, currently unfolding

    It is mind boggling how everyone's brains have rotted to the point where they can only express things in extremes

  • biglawbear

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    Exactly. But that only affects poor black people in Africa,* not poor helpless oppressed *checks notes* terrorist regimes

    *I know it affects the world, and is devastating

    Further note: the original post mistakenly typo'd millions dying in WWIII, an event which has not happened, and not WWI & II, as intended

  • maimonideznuts

    Also, the current US administration might be terrible, but stopping a theocratic government that considers the entire Sunni world to be heretical and sees deaths for the cause of accelerating the coming of Al Mahdi (the hidden Imam) as martyrdom, from getting nukes is a good thing... And only the US had the capacity to strike those deep bunkers.

    How this might escalate remains to be seen, but striking Fordo and other sites was a good thing.

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by biglawbear
  • chutzpahchesed

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    blackjewishmagic

    @AshagerAraro: It's bewildering to see a privileged woman from the West, protesting in support of the tyrannical #IRGC regime that brutalizes its own people and strips them of their right to protest. She enjoys the freedom to protest here, yet supports a regime that takes that right away from its citizens. The hypocrisy is staggering.

    @blackjewishmagic: And can we talk about the racism of low expectations and the white savior syndrome!?!

    This is classic white savior syndrome - believing she knows better, feeling entitled to intervene, while ignoring the complex realities faced by those suffering under such regimes. It's a form of racism of low expectations - the unwarranted assumption that oppressed people in the Middle East must accept these conditions as normal, or even that they deserve them. She would never be willing to live under the IRGC's brutal rule, but from her perspective, it's somehow acceptable for others to do so. She doesn't see them as her equals: she sees their suffering as just the way things are meant to be.

    (she reiterated and expanded her thoughts in a timeline post)

    The protesting in the West supporting the tyrannical IRGC is classic white savior syndrome - believing they know better, feeling entitled to intervene, while ignoring the complex realities faced by those suffering under such regimes. It's a form of racism of low expectations - the unwarranted assumption that oppressed people in the Middle East must accept these conditions as normal, or even that they deserve them. They would never be willing to live under the IRGC's brutal rule, but from their perspective, it's somehow acceptable for others to do so. They don't see them as their equals; They see their suffering as just the way things are meant to be.

    Mahsa Amini, was a young woman who was tragically murdered in September 2022 by the IRGC. She was arrested by Iran's morality police for allegedly wearing an improper hijab. Her murdered sparking protests nationwide and becoming a symbol of the fight for women's rights and freedom in Iran.

    Sarina Esmailzadeh, Iranian teenager who was tragically murdered from a severe beating on the head by IRGC security forces during the Mahsa Amini protests in Karaj, Alborz province, Iran, She was 16 years old.

    Nika Shakarami, 16-year-old Iranian girl who vanished in Tehran during the 2022 Iranian protests following the death of Mahsa Amini. Her family was informed of her death ten days later. She had died under suspicious circumstances suspected to involve violence by Iran security forces.

    Fereshteh Ahmadi, was from Mahabad in Iran's northwestern Kurdish region. On October 27, 2022, Fereshteh Ahmadi was standing on the balcony of her home when a bullet struck her heart, killing her instantly. Iran Security forces, intent on stopping anyone from recording their violent suppression of the protests, indiscriminately fired at people in cars and even those standing near windows and balconies.

    Atefeh Naami, was a 37-year-old Iranian woman who disappeared in Karaj on 21 November 2022 during the 2022 Iranian protests following the death of Mahsa Amini. Her family was informed of her death five days later. She had died under suspicious circumstances suspected to involve violence by the repressive forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Aida Rostami, was a 36-year-old Iranian physician who was kidnapped, fatally beaten, and killed by security forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran for treating protesters who were injured during the Mahsa Amini protests.

  • the-library-alcove

    As a friend of mine so rightfully put it, every time you have these "historical pictures of the glorious Palestine before it was colonized by the evil, backstabbing, bloodthirsty (((Zionists)))!"... the picture is an image of something built or produced by the Zionist community of the British Mandate before 1948, or by the British themselves.

    And they accuse us of stealing history, culture, and identity.

  • the-library-alcove

    The reason it's all named "Palestine" in those documents and photos is because it was the British Mandate of Palestine, and before that, it was the Ottoman province of Syria-Palestine.

    That was the official name given to the region by the colonizing empires, just like "Ohio," "New York", and "Texas" are names given by the colonizing empire for those regions, and calling it "Turtle Island" doesn't accomplish anything in terms of academic rigor.

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  • starlight-shadowbanned

    god i gotta get off reels. stumbled across one with a yemenite israeli being like "im not european, here are pics of my yemenite grandparents" and the comments are filled with "so you admit it, you're not from palestine, go back to yemen" you cannot possibly be this stupid

  • gingerswagfreckles

    All the Yemeni Jews were forcibly expelled from Yemen in 2021 by the same "A Curse Upon The Jews" flag Houthis that this entire website has been jacking themselves off to for the past year and a half, by the way. For all their brave "decolonizing anti-Zionist" actions such as reintroducing chattle slavery to Yemen and literally forcing the entire 3000 year old Yemeni Jewish community to flee to Israel at gunpoint.

  • Pro-tip: your resistance movement might have an antisemitism problem if the Jews in your city are afraid to go out tomorrow.

  • glassanimalcollective

    If this is how you think, if this is what you're focusing on in the face of a literal GENOCIDE, unfollow me, block me, stay away from me. I don't like zionists and this is prime liberal zionism. Y'all are the only ones equating jewishness with zionism. We do not need to focus on a the feelings of the group that holds power in an apartheid state.

  • glassanimalcollective

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    yeah, if this is how you're acting, scrambling to claim victimhood in the face of a *literal* genocide, I'm glad I'm not on your side.

    also, "you people" in reference to anti-zionists(read: normal people who want the genocide to end)? sounds about right.

    I'm not engaging with any arguments about antisemitism because i know the pro-palestinian movement is heavily populated with Jewish people who have the good sense to shut up about themselves and that you feeling a little uncomfortable *literally* does not matter. sorry if you're used to be coddled but personally I don't give a shit if you're scared to go to a protest. this is not an antisemitism issue, it's a forcing the conversation to be about ME! ME! ME! issue.

    liberal zionists stop making everything about antisemitism challenge impossible. everyone can hear the zionist propaganda leaking out of your dumb mouth loud and clear.

  • can-i-chava-smoke

    I work at a Jewish school. Every single one of my first graders has a story where they experienced violence for being Jewish this year. Every single one. The school has to have armed guards both outside and around the building because there are people out there who would love to kill Jewish children. We've had loads of threats and incidents.

    I talk to the parents frequently and visibly Jewish families are terrified to go out. There are children spat at, mothers shoved around, fathers cornered and harassed on the train. Anyone wearing a kippah or tzitzis is a target.

    Threats get followed through as well, there were recent murders locally. These people are not asking our opinion about Palestine before terrorizing our families.

    Believe it or not, Jews are human beings who deserve to show our faces in public. Your whataboutism doesn't justify real human suffering and terror.

    Shame on you.

  • glassanimalcollective

    Shame on me? What makes you think these attacks were pro-palestinian, left-wing attacks? Why are you so afraid of a movement that has a huge proportion of Jewish people? What you are describing reeks of right-wing racist attackers using the pro-palestine movement as a cover. You blaming the increase in antisemitism on the pro-palestine crowd is exactly what zionism is designed to influence you to do, and you've fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. Antisemitic hate crimes have always been a problem among right-wing domestic terrorists all over the world, but for some odd reason, now that there's a large movement against the genocide in gaza, these hate crimes are being pinned on the people begging for a genocide to end. Shame on YOU, using attacks on children to bolster other's zionist arguments.

  • can-i-chava-smoke

    You are so far up your own ass I can't tell if you're being serious or not. If you're not trolling and this is some pathetic attempt at gaslighting you need to seriously rethink your views.

    I'm sorry that you're so in denial about the violence that's being proliferated by your peers but you seriously need to grow up. I have a career in the Jewish community and a degree in the field. I can tell who's throwing the punches. We're not as stupid as you think.

  • hilacopter

    WE KNOW THEY WERE PRO-PALESTINIAN LEFT WING ATTACKS BECAUSE BOTH THE PERSON WHO SHOT TWO JEWISH PEACE ACTIVISTS AND THE PERSON WHO THREW FUCKING MOLOTOVS AT HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS SHOUTED "FREE PALESTINE" AS THEY WERE DOING IT. although calling them "pro-palestinian" is generous considering it does absolutely nothing to help Palestine, like pretty much the entirety of your excuse for a movement doesn't.

  • Posted on June 24th, 2025 originally by
    Anonymous sent:

    You know how antisemites love to accuse Jews of what they themselves are guilty of? And you know how the so-called "pro-Palestine" movement loves to say anything in the news that isn't Palestine is part of some evil Zionist plot to distract people from Palestine?

    I have to wonder how much of this movement has been astroturfed as a deliberate effort to distract people from other things going on in the world. In the past few years I was starting to see western leftists talking more and more about atrocities and human rights violations in Russia, China, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Qatar, Yemen, et cetera, but then Oct 7 happened and suddenly it was total silence on all those fronts. Because suddenly everything was about Palestine. And now the people and organizations causing the problems in many if not all of the aforementioned countries are being lauded by scores of westerners with severe tankie brainrot for their noble efforts to defeat the Evil Imperialist Zionist Entity. Isn't that interesting.

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  • aguineapigcouldntdothis

    ok genuinely why are goyim always so offended at being called goyim. im not talking about when its used in an insulting sentence, because in that case youre just upset about being insulted and thats normal. i mean when its used as a neutral descriptor for someone who isnt jewish. the only explanation ive ever seen is people making up definitions of the word to make it seem derogatory.

    why is it so upsetting to that jews have a word for people who arent jewish in our own language? do you..want to be jewish? does being left out of things make you sad because you never grew out of the childhood phase where everything is about you? or are you just looking for something to be offended about?

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    while we're at it, tearing down the hostage posters was always evil and fucked up.

  • scooperdipoop

    Beating up pro Palestine protestors was worse

  • jraker4

    And firebombing people marching for hostage release? Where’s that on the scale? Actually, *not* a hypothetical question: how much do Jewish non-Israeli supporters of Israel deserve to be murdered, according to you? You’ve expressed a desire for Israelis to be murdered, ‘free sport’ you called it, so where do you stand on non-Israelis who express support? Do they deserve to be violently murdered, too?

  • scooperdipoop

    Yeah sure they deserved it

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    Everyone on here who has been insisting that speaking about the hostages = genocide propaganda, be aware that the above is what your rhetoric supports

    @shenaniganboy96 @hedrigal @sahakead @shecamefromplanetclaire @worthlessclericbuild @lapislantern @punkkeeblerelf

  • punkkeeblerelf

    Yeah, antisemitism is bad—and almost everyone on the left agrees with that. But the left is also exhausted by nonstop propaganda and moral posturing. The hostage situation was used as propaganda, whether you see it or not. When people get fed up with these endless righteous games, apathy sets in—and that’s when antisemitic remarks start slipping out. It’s predictable. The obvious solution? Stop weaponizing grief and violence to silence critics and deny real suffering. Until that happens, this cycle just keeps spinning.

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    If antisemitic remarks start slipping out of a person once apathy sets in, they were already antisemitic.

  • punkkeeblerelf

    You and me both know full well that this person hates settlers. Leftists hate settlers. They don’t give a fuck if you’re Jewish. When I say something antisemitic “slips”, I mean people forget they need to walk on eggshells when condemning Israeli people because they’re Jewish. Not the other way around. I would LOVE to transport you to a reality where it was Christianity instead of Judaism. Please stop playing dumb I know that shits mad tired and I bet you don’t even need the act.

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    Ah -- so for you, when someone is accused of antisemitism, it was not actual antisemitism, but just being anti-settler and the settlers happened to be Jews. I see, thanks for clarifying.

    Is this still the cases when the person employs antisemitic tropes and beliefs, or are those coincidental?

    And does the person in question feel the same about settlers in other countries?

    Also, isn't it fascinating how, in a country full of settlers, Mohamed Soliman just happened to firebomb Jews, who are 2% of the population? Now what are the chances of that?

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    In any case, when you spread the idea that advocating for the hostages is equivalent to supporting genocide, then you invite people to treat people advocating for the hostages as if they support genocide. In this case, that meant firebombing.

  • punkkeeblerelf

    That’s MY WHOLE POINT. IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THEN YOUD UNDERSTAND THAT TO ADVOCATE FOR PALESTINE IS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE HOSTAGES



    If you actually care about the hostages, you should be advocating for Palestine. Why?


    Because they were taken in response to a brutal 17-year siege where 2 million people were starved, bombed, and imprisoned. That’s not random — it’s resistance to apartheid.

    Because Israel has literally bombed its own hostages and rejected multiple ceasefires that could’ve saved them. Netanyahu is using them as pawns, not trying to bring them home.

    Because while you’re crying over 200 Israeli hostages, Israel is holding over 10,000 Palestinians, including kids, without trial, many tortured — and you don’t seem to care.

    Because demanding hostage release without demanding a ceasefire or the end of occupation just gives Israel a moral excuse to keep slaughtering civilians.

    Because if you want to prevent hostages being taken again, you need to end the system that created the crisis: settler colonialism, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing. If you care about the hostages, you fight for liberation — not for the regime that put them there.

  • starlight-shadowbanned

    Huh, it's so weird that I've never spoken about this. I definitely have never demanded a ceasefire in order to bring the hostages home. It's so odd how that wasn't my pinned post for four months and that I didn't mention Palestinians in it at all

  • aparrotandaqrow

    Wait. Do people think the primary audience for the hostage posters is the pro-Palestinian crowd? Do they think the rallies and protests for the hostages are protests against them? Do they think the audience for the command "bring them home" is Hamas and/or the Palestinians? Or even more perplexing, do they think we're telling American leftist goyim to bring the hostages home? Is that where the disconnect is?

    Y'all. We want the Israeli government to bring them home. We want western governments to pressure the Israeli government to bring them home. We want western leftists to make noise to pressure their governments to make sure progress is being made towards getting the hostages home. Anyone who can read the news can see the way to do that isn't more military action.

    The hostage posters are a call to get Israel back at the negotiating table, where a ceasefire and resumption of humanitarian aid are probably prerequisites for freeing the hostages.

    But you antisemitic american shitstains think everything is about you, so obviously the hostage posters are directed at you specifically and couldn't possibly coexist with your own priorities, opinions, and goals for the Palestinians. The only people who could possibly be aligned with you are the ones acting like you and speaking like you.

  • lizbethborden

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    I know we shouldn't listen to anyone with "Soviet" in their username, but "Iran is a progressive country which has continuously worked for the world's liberation" has me, like, reeling. Where can I get the crack this person and all their noble comrades are smoking? I would really love some.

  • maimonideznuts

    Literally a lot of these folks seem to live in a fan fiction version of the real world that they write in real time.

  • captainlordauditor

    I know we talk about the oxen a lot, but there's some wild fun stuff in the Talmud too. An incomplete list:

    1. rabbi dick measuring contest
    2. a king's 1am influencer bro routine
    3. "King David had 400 sons and they were all hot"
    4. an argument about the legality of literally fucking yourself
    5. HOA rules for where windows on your house can go
    6. "as we all know, werewolves have tails in human form"
    7. two guys who got off on charges for homosexuality by telling the witness that it was two witnesses against one
    8. judge using fruit to prove eye witness testimony is unreliable
    9. "quarrels are like peeing"
    10. a bunch of rabbis defining different types of bed and one of the definitions they use is a bed specifically for throwing your clothes on
    11. someone insisting that the law saying "you need a jury of x amount of people" means that x should be half the jury + 1 resulting in the suggestion that you need a jury of 45 people for a murder trial
    12. your mom jokes
    13. "why does it say Solomon had 4000 horses AND that he had 40,000 horses?" "he had 160 million horses"
    14. science more questionable than Pliny
    15. the demand that a captive bear who killed someone be present at the trial
    16. diagram of punishments for illegal haircuts
    17. "in order for a town to be big enough to have a court it needs to have 10 idlers of the synagogue"
    18. a rabbi claiming that you can only be a judge on the national court if you're a hot wizard

    In conclusion: the Sages would do numbers on tumblr.

  • hyperpotamianarch

    #okay but where can I put my windows?

    Sounds like a Bava Batra thing. Can't recall at the moment specifics, but it's probably about privacy, mostly.

  • alyssumlovesthecosmere

    definitely bava batra. if i recall correctly, it can't be within 4 amot of where your neighbors' windows are? or something like that

    i'd also like to add to the list

    19. the dog and the goat that jumped over the roof (bava kama)

    20. falling off a roof into a woman. dick first. (this one is a contender for most psychic damage) (also bava kama. there's a lot of stuff there)

    21. how to check a woman's virginity? let's put her on a barrel of wine. and then the modern commentary (steinzalts's science commentary which i'm not entirely certain was actually written by rav adin) going "ah yes, this works because diffusion" (this one won the psychic damage) (either ketubot or yevamot, i believe ketubot but am not certain)

    23. vampires come from jackals (not really, it's a translation thing) (sanhedrin)

    24. how to tell time - with donkeys! (brachot, and i wrote a short story about it)

    25. rashi's science. if you thought gmara science was wonky, rashi has his Own Brand

    26. the Censored Things (sanhedrin... eighty something. i'm not putting what was censored on this post because it's. a ride)

  • kosher-toasty

    27. "Doves you catch in someone's property are stolen, off someone's property are considered wild and therefore not stolen." "But what if it has one foot on the property and one foot off the property?" "Awful question. Banned from the Beis Midrash."

  • alyssumlovesthecosmere

    28. "we have a complex discussion and can't answer it, RAV YIRMIYAH COME BACK TO THE BEIT MIDRASH"

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