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[–]Socially-Awkward-85 1141 points1142 points  (63 children)

After having a staff in 7, I feel like this was a missed opportunity.

[–]ciao_fivAhsoka Tano 442 points443 points  (45 children)

it really feels like JJ forgot to follow through on his own setup… of all the dumb crap in TROS, this bugged me the most. Rian Johnson even helped with the setup by destroying the saber

[–]GreatAmerican1776 233 points234 points  (33 children)

It’s not that they forgot. It’s that the people making Star Wars don’t care about Star Wars. It’s just a business for them.

[–]mistamosh 80 points81 points  (24 children)

I actually think the sequel trilogy suffered from being made by people who are too big of fans of Star Wars. They couldn’t get out of their own way and write a solid story.

[–]Sikletrynet 108 points109 points  (11 children)

JJ was too big of a fan of the OT, he disliked everything else. The first movie was basically just Ep4 rehashed over again.

[–]Antique-Coach-214 34 points35 points  (10 children)

Correct. JJ and Rian didn’t read the books, or play the games or flip through the comics. They were older during the great EU period of the 90s-2000s. They were working by then. They made movies for the Gen X crowd who enjoyed Star Wars in the 70s and screamed that it was too political in the 90s and 2000s. I’m not the hugest Filoni fan, but at least the man got parts of it right. And hell he even listed to Sam when Sam was correcting them in the booth… Like… JJ and Rian would have moved right past that. 7-9 almost, almost feel like Green Lantern. Like, anyone could tell you, that you need the full Green Lantern speech in the movie… Why did we have to tell you, we needed the speech though? 

[–]GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 43 points44 points  (4 children)

The problem with the sequels is that they didn't tell a coherent story. The prequels had terrible dialogue (they were all written by Hungarian immigrant György Lükász, whose English is pretty good, but you can tell he isn't a native speaker) but it's still easy to summarize the plot. It's all about the death of Anakin Skywalker and the rise of Darth Vader. But the sequels were like.....

>Episode VII: Let's Blow Up A Planet
>Episode VIII: Rebels on the Run
>Episode IX: Palpatine is Back for Some Reason

[–]reehdus 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Surely this is the new 'the problem with arsenal is that they always try to walk it in'. I can't go anywhere without seeing it

[–]Free_Possession_4482 14 points15 points  (1 child)

^ this man did see that ludicrous display last night.

[–]Captain_Awesome_087 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just wanna know what Wenger was thinking, sending Walcott on that early.

[–]thetensorRebel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The prequels' story had a predetermined end point and they were still a mess in terms of story, pacing, and character motivations.

[–]pravis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

JJ and Rian didn’t read the books, or play the games or flip through the comics

That doesn't mean they weren't fans. Rian was a fan of the OT. Hey may have liked different aspects of Star wars than you but it doesn't mean he didn't love the material.

[–]NaturesWar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't have to be fluent in the EU to make a great SW film.

Part of what makes SW great is it's simplicity, it's accessibility. I love the OT, grew up on the prequels. Fans in the 90s/2000s wanted SW to be some high fantasy/sci fi world building machine when it really isn't. I don't want 75% of what I need to know about your universe to come from books when what made it originally great were basic space opera films.

I just finished Andor and it got me excited about it again; that series betrays my point nearly, but at least it's engaging.

[–]Quacking_PlumsImperial 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gen-X here. Or at least I think I am — just missed ANH in the cinemas but remember watching ESB and RotJ there, which was lucky since we had to wait almost a decade for it to be released on video for us to watch on our postage-stamp sized TVs.

Was still in school early nineties and started working just in time to inherit the ‘millennium bug’ from the short-sighted Boomers before me, does that count?

Anyway, I live and breathe SW but I don’t feel that the sequels were aimed at me at all. I don’t know what kind of fan, who supposedly loved the OT so much, when given an amazing opportunity to add their own unique touch to the series would then go on to do such a disservice to the brand.

[–]Merfium 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Except Rian DID read some of the books. He posted to Twitter in (before the Last Jedi was filmed) that he read the Jedi Path and Book of Sith in universe manuals.

[–]Witty-Mountain5062 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would hardly consider that prime material lol

[–]_Koreander 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I honestly can't see that, I think most fans would've preferred to preserve the victory the heroes achieved in the original trilogy while creating a new era with different stories, instead of making a soft remake of the old movies and repeating the old premise of "small rebels vs big empire".

At best JJ and Rian were fans of star wars as a cultural phenomenon or as films, but I wouldn't think of them as fans of star wars as a universe with its own lore and capabilities for stories beyond the Skywalker saga.

[–]Nefarious_Turtle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

JJ said basically said that. Repeatedly.

That the goal was to make new exciting blockbuster adventure films called Star Wars. Not to "build upon the universe" or "respect the lore" or anything like that. They were fans of the original films as films and wanted to keep as much of the iconic stuff from them as possible.

Thats why "soft reboot" was the direction they went. They wanted to recapture the cinematic experience of the original films. They wanted empire vs rebels 2.0 complete with x-wings vs TIEs again. And a new Luke vs a new Vader.

People expecting continuity or deep respect for the lore were not listening to what JJ was saying in the lead up to the release of TFA.

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Have you ever read the art book for 7?

[–]mistamosh 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I haven’t, no. Is it something you’d recommend?

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 11 points12 points  (5 children)

I would.

Kasdan and JJ both admit that neither of them could manage to write a draft that didn't end up with Luke as the protagonist. They ended up cutting him out of TFA (until the very end) because of this.

You saying people loved star wars too much made me think of that. They seemed to love Luke too much to not let him take focus.

[–]Free_Possession_4482 14 points15 points  (2 children)

That's such an indictment of their limitations as writers. Imagine Tolkien cutting Gandalf out of LotR because he couldn't think of a way to keep the story focused on Frodo.

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I feel the same way about RJ admitting he felt Finn and Poe were too similar, so he split them up.

They're two characters from either side of an armed conflict. They have inherent differences.

I feel like the wrong people were hired to write this stuff.

[–]Free_Possession_4482 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The original screenwriter for the trilogy was Oscar winner Michael Arndt. Disney CEO Bob Iger got impatient with Arndt's writing pace and wanted to cash in on the Lucasfilm acquisition as quickly as possible, so Arndt was pushed out and Abrams/Kasdan inherited the gig almost by default. Iger is also the guy who insisted on releasing Solo in May of 2018, just five months after The Last Jedi and while Avengers: Infinity War and Deadpool 2 were in their theatrical runs. Iger being stupid and greedy did more harm to Star Wars than anything else has.

[–]Witty-Mountain5062 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Would have been great if we could have seen some of that “love” for Luke on display across the 3 movies they made lmao.

[–]mistamosh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh interesting. I’ll have to look for that. Thanks for the rec!

[–]Antique-Coach-214 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Wasn’t written by JJ that’s for sure.

[–]happydaddyg 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But this would have sold a decent number of blue double sabers. Has JJ or KK ever explained why they never game Rey a saberstaff? I cant think of a single decent explanation to not do it especially after the heavy telegraph in 7.

[–]gippy44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've always assumed it was because they decided to use the old leftover footage of Carrie Fisher holding Luke's lightsaber they had to have Rey rebuild it.

[–]Nfire86 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No they only cared about the original trilogy, both directors said themselves that they hated the prequels, they made sequels for 60-year-old boomers lol no wonder everybody hates it

[–]Eject_The_Warp_Core 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rian has admitted he didn't like the prequels, but at least said he appreciates what they were trying to do and acknowledged that a generation grew up with them. he also pulled from their visuals, with one example being the overhead shot of Kylo entering the Crait base being inspired by the similar shot of Anakin leading clones into the Jedi Temple.

JJ I feel has been dismissive of the prequels, but did still put some callbacks to them in both of his movies - references to clone armies and a line recorded by Ewan as Obi-Wan in TFA, and Palpatine's unnatural abilities line and the voice cameos from prequel Jedi in TROS. And he talked about wanting TROS to work as the culmination of all thre trilogies (which imo didn't land, but I do believe he wanted it to)

[–]Eject_The_Warp_Core 1 point2 points  (1 child)

there was discussion about Rey having the double saber in TROS and they decided it was too aggressive for a Jedi. The decision was rooted in Star Wars (even if I agree it wasn't the right one), and I don't understand how going back to the Skywalker saber even makes sense as a business driven decision when a new saber has the potential to sell more toys.

[–]ender9492 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wild that they claim to have their decision "rooted in Star Wars!" What about Bastila and Satele Shan? Or even the Jedi Temple guards? This is why the lore is important.

[–]viotix90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it would be good business. It would make them money. It's like they're a business that doesn't care about making money!

[–]mrkrukR2-D2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You can sell the lightsaber and then just a leather wrap thing around the same lightsaber.

[–]Maximum_Boros 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He forgot to follow through because that's basically his entire fucking creative life. He loses interest in everything and isn't professional enough to actually see it through with effort no matter how much he committed. I won't watch anything he does anymore because I just know I'm going to want more and he's either going to not make it or fall off horribly

[–]SnarkyRogue 5 points6 points  (1 child)

He had the folding doublesaber in that one flashback though. Clearly they thought about it, they just... dropped the ball for whatever reason

[–]ciao_fivAhsoka Tano 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that just irks me even more honestly, they were so close to getting that right!

[–]Lord-Carnor-Jax 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget that JJ is very anti PT. “This will begin to make things right” is the first dialogue in TFA. He wasn’t exactly subtle with his intended double meaning with it. Light saber staff was first seen on screen with Darth Maul, ergo JJ didn’t like them.

[–]Sea-Woodpecker-610 3 points4 points  (0 children)

JJ has always been all setup-no payoff.

[–]MrFiendish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how Rey broke into Snoke’s lair, fought a bunch of red guys, and then just…sort of left.

[–]Steamed_Memes24 [score hidden]  (0 children)

it really feels like JJ forgot to follow through on his own setup…

Yea this wouldnt be the first time sadly lmao.

[–]parkingviolation212 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

You’re getting mad at them for not following through on a set up that you don’t even actually know was purposefully set up.

[–]ciao_fivAhsoka Tano 3 points4 points  (2 children)

i have seen the original concept art of duel of the fates, it was in fact planned at one point. so yeah, im mad at them for not following through lol

[–]parkingviolation212 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Planned by the Director of episode nine sure, but not necessarily the director of episode seven.

I do agree, though that it would’ve been a better idea

[–]ciao_fivAhsoka Tano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah as with every other issue in this damn trilogy it comes down to the whole thing not having a cohesive solid plan from the start lol

[–]SirBobPeel 10 points11 points  (11 children)

If she was shown fighting with it a few times it would at least be a lot more reasonable that she was good with a saberstaff than her ability with a sword when she'd never ever fought with or even picked up a sword before.

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 6 points7 points  (9 children)

I've gotten to the point where I tell myself that when she mind-melded with Kylo, she got like NEO uploaded force powers instantly.

"I know Jedi mind trick."

[–]_Koreander 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Exactly! Enough complaining has been done about Rey being a mary sue and such, a lot of it is in poor taste, but I must admit, on TFA it really feels like she has 0 connection to the force, until suddenly she has it and can mind trick a storm trooper and staves off Kylo's mind read.

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I always say this.

Regardless of anything else, Rey winning the TFA lightsaber fight and Kylo losing it did neither character any favors going forward.

That's basically my overall complaint about their dynamic with each other.

[–]_Koreander 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, people like throwing a lot of, honestly valid explanations, "Kylo was wounded by chewie" "Rey was balanced in the force", but despite it kinda makes sense (personally I still think someone with proper lightsaber training should beat someone that is touching one for the first time, wounded or not, but whatever) it really brought down Kylo, and did nothing to show us a target for Rey to aspire to in her training.

[–]Reptilian_Overlord20Porg 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I disagree.

Read the section about narrative significance.

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 0 points1 point  (2 children)

And again... I find it narratively unsatisfying.

You can excuse writing choices all you want, but it's subjective and I'm merely explaining my opinion.

[–]Reptilian_Overlord20Porg [score hidden]  (1 child)

Would it be narratively satisfying for Luke to miss the final shot on the Death Star?

Why should Rey’s first actual attempt to stand and fight, I.e. choosing to be the hero, instead of running be met with humiliating defeat and failure? Keep in mind the whole movie she’s running from the future and does not want to be a hero. So if she stands and fights instead of running away and loses barely making it out with her life then doesn’t that mean the narrative is punishing her for making that choice and confirming she should just give up?

Beating Kylo is the sole reason she believes she has a greater destiny than running away. If she loses what motivation does she have not to say “well I was right to not want to be the hero.”

To say nothing of how Kylo’s entire story is how the pursuit of the dark side is actually destroying him. Why would winning that fight do anything other than prove that he was right to seek power because it totally worked?

[–]Socially-Awkward-85 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Okay. I never said anything negative about TFA. I stated why a specific section of the movie doesn't personally work for me, and I made sure not to make it seem like some sort of "objective flaw" or something like that either.

I have seen the movie a few times... and every time I feel like Kylo should have had the upper hand just before the ground splits between them. Doing the opposite feels narratively unsatisfactory to me.

I'm not saying this is a flaw with the film. You're just going to have to accept different opinions about films from people.

[–]freshpairofayes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should've had her terrified in the interrogation cell, and furious when facing Kylo.

Only later does Luke/Leia tell her that she's not super gifted, but she's been (unknowingly) using the darkside shortcut since day 0.

[–]Reptilian_Overlord20Porg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Suspension of disbelief. I can accept the idea that fourteen years having to learn to defend herself she would be adaptable enough to swing a stick shorter than her other stick.

[–]gettothechoppaaaaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goes to show the sheer lack of imagination for the people making decisions as Lucasfilm at the time. Like obviously the people whose creative potential is to come up with a Death Star V2 also can’t see the potential in a new canon lightsaber.

Also, they would be selling this lightsaber like hot cakes as merch, despite the character’s shortcomings.

[–]bajungadustin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I called it from episode seven that she was going to have a yellow naginata. I thought yellow because she was basically the last guard of the jedi. Temple guards notoriously used yellow double bladed sabers.

I thiught staff because well.. It was kind of obvious because if her staff. Even the end of her staff was noticed by me and many others to be basically a light saber on the end of it. Although probably a broken one or something.

I was half right. But yeah.. I'm here for the staff as opposed to the double bladed.

[–]wolfknight98 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apparently the original script of 9 had her wield a saberstaff, one blade blue and the other red to show her conflict between her heritage as a palp and her heart as a jedi

[–]thebruce44 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They really fucked up everything, didn't they.

[–]dmn1x -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's the post yeah

[–]GrandDukeNotaras 195 points196 points  (10 children)

Jedi academy vibes right there

[–]Vegetable-Abroad3171Sith[S] 85 points86 points  (9 children)

She couldve been the next Satele Shan with better writing bro 😭

[–]GrandDukeNotaras 57 points58 points  (6 children)

Even without the better writing, the double sided lightsaber would have made the movie  a lot cooler than how it was with Luke's lightsaber 

[–]_Bike_Hunt 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I agree a saber staff would be cool, but with Disney’s direction all lightsaber fights are slow, heavy claymore fights, sabers don’t cut and decapitate, their damage is more like using a wooden stick to inflict chip damage of 5hp per hit, and you can recover from stab wounds.

I want more Jedi academy g_saberrealisticcombat 5 action

[–]GrandDukeNotaras 3 points4 points  (3 children)

haha. dont play Fallen Order unless you like using lightball bats as weapons

[–]_Bike_Hunt 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah I was tempted to get Jedi FO until I saw gameplay videos. Absolutely can’t stand the lightsaber being a glowing baton that does smack damage.

[–]GrandDukeNotaras 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Admittedly if you play on the easiest difficulty and "pretend" the giant spiders on Kashyyyk have cortosis skin, then the lightsaber combat is acceptable

[–]Witty-Mountain5062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Survivor has a perk called “purity” that basically makes it a “real” lightsaber that one hits everything, but also allows you to be killed in one strike as well.

[–]OsBaculum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing I liked in Legends novels is that lightsabers cut extremely cleanly. In all the visual media they sorta burn their way through a target, vaporizing a lot of whatever they're cutting in the process. The book description more fits the idea of an "elegant weapon for a more civilized age" imo

[–]N0rmal-Fac3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you mean Bastila Shan? Just curious

[–]VysceSeparatist Alliance 185 points186 points  (11 children)

Seriously, *seriously* I thought that's where it was going. Like, she already had the staff and in TLJ she seemed to be so much better at the staff than Luke's saber. Even in TRoS she seems like she doesn't have the best control over it.

I would of had it where Kylo and Rey break the saber when fighting over it, Rey integrates the parts of Luke and Leia's saber into her staff as a way to take the brightest lights in the galaxy with her into battle, it would have been such an insane moment. Like, she may not be a Skywalker, but she carries their legacy as a way to light the path to a new dawn of the jedi.

instead we got... well, what we got.

[–]Xanto97 32 points33 points  (3 children)

It’s truly insane that we didnt get a saber staff. It’s a layup. And such an easy way to make it look flashy

[–]segwaysegue 15 points16 points  (0 children)

We even know it occurred to them, since they gave Evil Rey from the vision a foldable double-bladed saber! Just a missed opportunity all around.

[–]itsonlysmellz82 2 points3 points  (1 child)

considering how awful the fight scenes all were i imagine they took one look at that double bladed saber and said "nah we don't even know where to begin with this thing its way to complicated, just swing the ones we got like a baseball bat and send it"

[–]NotBannedAccount419 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got downvoted in another post on this sub last week for pointing out how bad the throne room fight was in TLJ. The person I was replying to said it was the best fight out of all the movies in the entire saga

[–]TheUlfheddin 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"Hey what if we used Lucas' idea of poetry to establish as many layered and respectful versions of "passing the torch" as possible and then subvert fans expectations by being as boring and bland as possible while making the abstract idea of "poetry" look really fucking stupid so it ruins the entire series for generations to come."

[–]DaSuspicsiciousFishPorg 3 points4 points  (4 children)

A dual bladed lightsaber and staff are very different, tho. A staff you can grab anywhere and it has weight, but a dual blade it’s only weight in the very center

[–]VysceSeparatist Alliance 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Right, but she knows how to fight with a double ended weapon like a staff. She had to go through jedi training at a point anyway, it might have been an advantage where she had the basic idea down over now having a weapon that's used differently.

[–]ciao_fivAhsoka Tano 9 points10 points  (0 children)

while true, her sith self in her vision even has a damn double ended lightsaber so what were they thinking here lol

[–]GnomeNot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wanted her to use her staff as the hilt, with a single blade at one end.

[–]OsBaculum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Light pikes also exist though. Basically a long staff with a blade on one end. You could have the body be made with cortosis or something. Hell, the blade end could even be detachable so you could use it as a regular saber in close quarters.

[–]Monstarrzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They had to sUBvErT EXpEcTaTioNs

[–]reehdus 42 points43 points  (1 child)

She was supposed to if you look at Trevorrow's original plans. As always I think the better version of ep9 is located somewhere between Trevorrow's script and JJ/Terrio's script. There are things that Trevorrow did that I wanted to see and things that JJ did which I consider improvements on Trevorrow's script.

[–]D-Vader7 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Shoulda! Woulda! Coulda!!!! Pretty much the entire sequel trilogy is like that.

[–]JamesLikesIt 11 points12 points  (2 children)

For real, she had a god damn staff, feels like it would have been a bit of a natural progression. Or hell, have a lightsaber hilt on a longer handle. Like a pike saber lol. Maybe not the most practical weapon but would have been pretty sweet and unique

[–]Competitive-Note-318 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I like this idea, Imagine she made a lightsaber pike like the Jedi Temple Guards to counter Kylo's Cross-guard Lightsaber, Hell they can also make hers like Cal's detachable lightsaber. Shows how smart she is.

[–]OsBaculum [score hidden]  (0 children)

You could even have the saber end BE Luke's blade. It would be a great way to carry the legacy while still making it her own.

[–]One-Combination-3856 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Or a lightsaber pike

[–]Viewlesslight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always wanted her to modify her staff to have a double ended pike

[–]CantAffordzUsername 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This was so obvious to me when I saw this in theaters. She literally uses one her whole life and it would have been so cool to see a Jedi Darth maul saber

Still needed gorge Lucas though, Disney saber fights are pathetic compared to his

[–]BrellK 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Honestly I would have preferred some sort of Pike or Spear sort of thing. She is already familiar with the staff so add a blade on the end and give her a unique weapon.

[–]NotBannedAccount419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that would have been different and very cool. The Jedi order and the fighting techniques draw a ton of inspiration from Japanese/samurai influence. She could have had some kind of bow staff samurai moves that made her unique but still deadly and able to hold her own in a duel

[–]LucasEraFan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Allana Solo circa 64 aby...

[–]Robot_Dracula 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I asked Phil Szostak on Twitter many years ago why they didnt do a double bladed saber. He said it was seen more as a sith weapon or something. I see the point but they set her up from the start with a staff that eventually was used to make her yellow saber. I don’t see why they didn’t upgrade her staff to double bladed sabers

[–]WasteReserve8886Jedi 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If it means anything, the novelization of Rise of Skywalker has her straight up admit that she’ll probably transition to a saber staff and is only using a single blade because it was the first saber she built

[–]AppaMyFlyingBison 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does it really? Maybe if they do ever make that new Rey movie they will finally have it.

[–]Jimmy_Bags_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Would've saved the entire trilogy right there wouldn't it

[–]OnikonokagePorg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made a halberd style light saber that is really fun to use that was inspired by her staff. Basically just a full staff with the blade on one end.

[–]Krucble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her starting out with a staff was the perfect setup for this. Force Awakens that had all these great plot threads that went absolutely nowhere.

[–]Reptilian_Overlord20Porg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree completely, sabrestaff makes sense. Also new outfit and new hairstyle. She let her hair down in the second movie which felt like a symbolic move to adulthood (losing the hairstyle she had since she was a kid) so you could see Last Jedi as her adolescence so logically a third hairstyle for the last movie so signify adulthood.

Truthfully there needed to be a lot of overhaul.

[–]Bleedblxck [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not only did they not understand what to do with Star Wars but they also didn't even understand what they were doing themselves with Star Wars. There were so many things that could have been turned into something else, like Reys staff alluding to a future with a double-ended saber, that would have made the trilogy feel more cohesive and planned out even if it didn't originally start that way.

[–]PunchNessie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was in absolute disbelief when Rey didn’t end up with a double sided staff saber. It was too perfect, but further proof Disney leadership had no idea what they were doing with that trilogy.

[–]Megadodo4242 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yellow. It should have been yellow.

[–]TrayusV 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The novelization explains it!

The double bladed lightsaber with a hinge that Dark Rey had in the vision was the design Rey originally had worked on. But after seeing that vision on the Death Star, she decided to go a different route.

[–]EliteTroperCommander Pyre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hopefully whenever we see Rey again she will reconsider.

[–]plane__nerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeeeeeeeeeeees!!!

[–]AllPugsGo2Heaven 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amen

[–]Thalek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A Shan but dark side with red saber. Kylo killing her in 9 hence the Rise of Skywalker.

[–]dibbiluncan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was such a huge fumble.

[–]Timely_Ad_8063 0 points1 point  (0 children)

False lightsaber

[–]Over_Pudding3896 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A double bladed lightsaber rocks so much better!

[–]ReallyEvilRob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the smallest of details for how it should have been. There were much bigger problems than this.

[–]AshEmerson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YES! Thank you. I'm still cross over it

[–]ZeroXNova 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This would have been great. I think she should've had a unique color of crystal like pink or something, but she absolutely should've used a saber staff. Especially since her dark mirror had one.

[–]B_Huij 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know everyone wanted her to have a staff because she fought with a big metal stick in Ep7, but none of the canonical Jedi alive by the time Rey was learning to use a lightsaber had any experience whatsoever with a staff. They wouldn't have been able to train her with it effectively. I think it makes way more sense for her to have a standard lightsaber.

[–]gamingnerd99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think she should’ve had a saber like I feel like her fighting style fits that more than a staff

[–]gregor630 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If TROS was gonna be a clusterfuck of fan service, this was the least they could do to make Rey more fun to watch. Choreography for the double sided blue saber would have softened a lot of the hard-to-swallow antics of the rest of the sequels.

[–]DarthMaren 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We even got dark side version of her using a double sided light saber

[–]realmozzarella22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The practicality is the limitation.

The actor, for Maul, had a martial arts background. It included long weapons. Maul has a short part in a couple movies.

Daisy is primarily an actor and the main character in several movies. She was ok in fight choreography. Adding a long weapon is probably going to make things worse.

Also a double saber is more difficult than a regular staff. So many staff techniques include holding one end.

[–]Metalrooster81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

honestly though, I feel like the best light sabre duelists only need one.

[–]whpshMandalorian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes so much sense, would've been amazing.

Any time she was tempted by the dark side, that cool maul background "tcha-tcha" sound could've been lingering to tickle the emotion of those sith...

what a miss

[–]sunshinelacrosse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They even gave her a red one in her vision!!

[–]pm_me_ur_boobies6969 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This would have been dope

[–]jedihooker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure a cool lightsaber would have fixed this trilogy.

[–]EntertainmentDue5749 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have liked to see a lightsaber pike. Something new for the movies.

[–]theblueshotsBen Kenobi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed

[–]JonJonzes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A questão óbvia é que George Lucas é o criador de Star Wars, e ele não deveria ter sido afastado de Star Wars, ao menos do cerne principal.

[–]NCH007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This wouldn't have made the movie any better lmfao

[–]BarkerBarkhan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Add that to the reasons why it should have been Episode IX - Duel of the Fates

[–]Realistic-Damage-411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will contend that a Light Pike would be even better but this is a close second

[–]Kill_Welly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Double-bladed lightsabers are much better as villain weapons, and it makes absolutely zero sense to give Rey a double bladed lightsaber because she fought with a staff, a dramatically different weapon with only superficial similarities.

[–]HirosProtagonist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have loved it to be detachable and she tossed the other one to Fin for an assist.

[–]Notorum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No no. The yellow is sick.

[–]ForMe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100%

[–]DragonRabbit505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where is her left arm?

[–]willtheadequate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THANK you

[–]Calm-Experience5943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a lot of should have been when talking about the sequals

[–]Cpt_Riker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How it should have been was:

  1. No Mary Sue,

  2. Writers who respected, and understood, the Star Wars lore and Universe, and

  3. Competent directors who respected the Star Wars lore and Universe.

Instead we got garbage.

[–]AbyssalKultist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was already just so terrible though, I'm not sure the saber style would have made much of a dent.

[–]NatKayz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd have gathered a lightsaber Pike (spear one), but this would still be infinitely better than a regular lightsaber for her.

If they ever do make the Rey movie they gotta retcon her new one to be one of these.

[–]aldlich_kosm [score hidden]  (0 children)

I really wanted her to have a lightsaber like like that woman in the SWOTOR trailer.

[–]travizeno [score hidden]  (0 children)

Everything is missed on these movies time to forget them.

Maybe im too harsh some people love them and I can respect that. I just thought they could be way better.

[–]Kindly-Ad-5071 [score hidden]  (0 children)

JJ Abrams is in the business of churning out neat ideas, not connecting them in any satisfying way. That was the deal with Lost and any movie to come out of Bad Robot. He was a baffling choice for a Star Wars director.

[–]katchow [score hidden]  (0 children)

They should have known i prefer the dual saber!!

[–]Asleep-Connection824Porg -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Idc what the minority of people say

SHE.

IS

NOT

A

SKYWALKER

[–]Much-Menu6030 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think... I think i miss TLJ.

[–]Specimen-BRey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah. A staff and a dual lightsaber are not the same. All of her experience with a lightsaber was with a single blade.

[–]sabotaboRebel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

but that's like the prequels and we can't remind people of the prequels!!!!!!!!!

[–]Bren_Silet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Instead of the writers giving Rey a double bladed lightsaber, what if the writers gave themselves a double sharpened PENCIL so they could write a god damn cogent and thoughtful script!!! Geez, the sequel trilogy was such a waste top to bottom!!

[–]largos7289 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No no.. star wars will forever have taken sith Rey and jedi Ben from us.

[–]GreatGreenGobbo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can still hear Finn in the background...

"REEYYYYYYYYYYY"

[–]thetensorRebel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Double-bladed lightsabers are dumb so I'm glad it didn't turn out this way.

[–]Lord-Carnor-Jax -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

My theory is JJ is so anti PT that giving Rey a light saber staff like Maul had would not have entered his mind at all and if it didn’t he wouldn’t like it.

[–]nomiis19 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It should be purple

[–]lildozer74 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Block rey out and that’s how it should have been.

[–]geostooorm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Boooooo