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[–]TimeTravelingChris 93 points94 points  (27 children)

It's funny that OP picked out the scene that most people like, and didn't defend all the other stuff.

[–]admiraltarkin 29 points30 points  (7 children)

Yeah. This is a freezing take, this scene was excellent. An actual hot take would be that they liked the lightsaber throw or Leia's death

[–]Previous_Spinach_168Porg 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I like the saber throw. It’s sassy and makes for an interesting foil to his saber throw in RotJ, the last time we saw him. It’s a cold splash of water in Rey’s face.

[–]casual_creatorMandalorian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It can also be seen as a callback to TESB: “your weapons, you will not need them.” He went from ignoring Yoda’s advice to literally throwing his weapon away like it was trash.

[–]admiraltarkin 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I don't agree, but you make a good point that I hadn't considered before

[–]Previous_Spinach_168Porg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]Reead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm now imagining a world where he throws the saber in the same manner as how he tosses his saber in RotJ (instead of over his head) to make the callback stronger and wondering if that would've gone over better.

[–]Just-Attorney-1902 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I’m a sequel hater and I love this scene and I dont get how anyone couldn’t. Felt just like legends Luke, but felt even more just a scene of a true Jedi. Also amazing cinematography and well acted

[–]Fickle-Confidence-20 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Another take that part where Luke tried to kill Kylo

I don’t see a “I had a bad dream so I will kill my nephew”

I see Luke reverting to the old Jedi way there and let his emotions drive HIM,

that’s exactly what Mace Windu did in the chancelor’s office—He let his emotions kick in and was so insistent on killing Palpatine blind of Anakin’s words that is not the Jedi way

The shot of standing as the Temple burns, reminds me of the temple burning in ROTS.

[–]baroqueoutLuke Skywalker 23 points24 points  (8 children)

I was thinking the same thing. Most Luke fans that complain about his portrayal in the Sequels don't take issue with this scene, it's everything before it that we have a problem with.

[–]TimeTravelingChris 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Right? This is like the third post recently where someone spent way too much time writing a long defense of something no one criticizes.

[–]RollingHillsRamsay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Engagement bait like most "hot takes" on Reddit lol. Gets the people talking about how it's not a hot take

[–]casual_creatorMandalorian -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I personally don’t have an issue with Luke’s arc as a master who lost his way. But I do wish we got more of Luke’s “return” as it were - 30 years of waiting and we really only see Jedi Master Luke for 5 minutes.

[–]Lyra_the_Star_Jockey 1 point2 points  (4 children)

"Hot take, but the Last Jedi has good cinematography and a good soundtrack."

[–]TimeTravelingChris 0 points1 point  (3 children)

"The Holdo Maneuver looked cool, why doesn't everyone love it?"

[–]StreetReporter -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Because Kirby did it better in Subspace Emissary

[–]TimeTravelingChris 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What? Also my comment was a joke.

[–]StreetReporter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Kirby did the exact same maneuver in the story mode of Super Smash Bros Brawl, and it was awesome. They also did the let the bad guys shoot the big ship while we escape on the small ships.

TLDR: Last Jedi ripped off that one cut scene from Brawl

[–]Kavazou77 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I mean, you don’t get the payoff here without the rest of the movie.

[–]TimeTravelingChris 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I would argue this was one of the few parts that worked, and given everything that came before it wasn't much of a payoff. It was sort of a last second good decision.

[–]Kavazou77 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure it was. This is the embodiment of eveyrthing Luke rejected being and letting people believe he was. From the saber toss to not leaving with Rey. Every scene with Luke leads to this moment.

[–]LordDustyIG-11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have so many issues with Luke in the sequels but when he walked out in this scene, with actual purpose and clean look, I got goosebumps. It was the first time the sequels had got me really excited since the first TFA trailer.

This was the Luke I had waited for so long to see, this was where the sequels really started for me, and this scene was incredible...and then they killed him off.

That high I had just experienced passed like a fleeting shadow. And I was left with disappointment and frustration.

[–]Arkvoodle42 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense; NEVER to attack."

[–]DramaExpertHSGrievous 79 points80 points  (8 children)

Hot take: paragraphs are overrated

[–]CanisZeroRebel 23 points24 points  (1 child)

i mean the decreasing literacy rates might agree with you man.

[–]validtaker 10 points11 points  (0 children)

especially when one paragraph should be at least three in this case

[–]Overexcited-Particle 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I don't know why you're getting upvoted. There's longer paragraphs than this and it makes sense for the singular point OP is trying to make. If anything, by correct writing standards, this should be a singular paragraph. Yours is indeed a hot take that academics and English teachers like me would disagree with.

Had you commented on the spelling and the awful separation between punctuations (never a space before any kind of punctuation, which includes commas, parentheses, ...), you would've had an easy point. Right now, you're just simply wrong.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My bad for the spaces I copy pasted it from my notes and it got altered also English is not my first language so that explains the spelling mistakes

[–]Overexcited-Particle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don't care, but whenever people think they know best when they clearly don't, I call it out.

[–]JollyJoeGingerbeard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This scene doesn't work without the rest of the film.

Luke's story pulls heavily from Authurian myth, including...

  1. Believing himself to be an orphan of humble origins.
  2. Having the old wizard Merlin Obi-Wan Kenobi as a teacher.
  3. Suffering a defeat at the hand of the Black Knight, Sir Pelenor Darth Vader, that costs him his first sword.
  4. Retreating to Avalon Ahch-To after another defeat at the hand of his nephew, Mordred Ben Solso, only to return when England The Galaxy needed him most.
  5. In exile, serving as the wounded guardian of the Holy Grail Sacred Jedi Texts who is healed after an encounter with the "chosen one" Sir Percival Rey from Nowhere.
  6. With the Round Table Jedi Order broken and Camelot Galactic Republic in ruins, Arthur Pendragon Luke Skywalker fights one last duel and is impaled through the chest by a lance lightsaber.

Lucas was never subtle about his inspirations. Yes, I'm playing with the order and merging two characters. It all works. I get people being disappointed because Luke wasn't the hero people thought he should have been. That decision wasn't made by Ryan Johnson, though. Luke had plenty of unseen adventures, but this is how it always should have ended.

[–]VeritasOmicron 32 points33 points  (2 children)

I ain't reading that shit

[–]Ndmndh1016 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good for OP or sorry that happened

[–]vegetaman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah like I’m happy for you or something and I’m sorry the sequel trilogy happened.

[–]JacobDCRoss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It's weird that being right is considered a hot take.

[–]Ewy_Kablewy 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Sure but too little too late for me. They wasted an entire movie of him not being Luke for some reason.

[–]NockerJoe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They Surf Dracula'd Luke Skywalker's personality.

[–]SheetJeans59638 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's a good and noble act by Luke. I don't think anyone really disputes that. I just think the decision to have him die because he forced too hard or whatever was pretty dumb.

[–]HotScreen6448 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t agree even George Lucas and Mark didn’t agree with this version of Luke Skywalker 

[–]mikeweasy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve always liked that scene it’s so badass! My only gripe is Like and Kylo should have had a real lightsaber duel

[–]Mrmoseley231119 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Luke wins in RotJ by not fighting. He wins in TLJ by not fighting. Agree this was perfect.

[–]genemaxwell41Imperial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Incorrect.
Luke wins RotJ by not KILLING
In fact, fighting was the only way TO win.

[–]J4jem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This was the best scene from the best movie in the Sequel Trilogy. I agree with everything you wrote here.

[–]Bloodless-Cut 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Much Jedi. Very Force.

[–]RevolutionaryLie5743 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is definitely the most compelling and well thought out argument I’ve read about Luke’s arc and this scene in particular. I’m hardly one that’s easily swayed by reddit posts but this will definitely be in my mind when I next have the chance to watch this film (I’ve avoided it since seeing it in theatres). I’m not a fan of the sequels for many reasons (I found TFU to be hopeful but ultimately a rehash of ANH and TROS is essentially plain unwatchable for me). 

I was a very young kid when the prequels were released and recall seeing the latter 2 in theatres when they came out (I saw screenings of the OT at the same time and TPM as well but saw them at home before), just so you know what era I grew up in and with what movies. 

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I was born in that weird in between era of clone wars and sequel trilogy so I went to see the sequels in the theatres while at the same time watching clone wars on repeat along with the prequels and the originals . I remember thinking that the plot of the sequel trilogy being a hot mess but this particular scene caught mine and all of my friends attention even as 6 years olds we would agree on one thing : this scene is the most Jedi thing we’ve ever seen Luke do .

[–]doom_scrollin_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How do Jedi die from being tired?

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe a force projection needs all your force power to be used and in the way it kills you

[–]FafnirSnap_9428 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's not a hot take. It's the truth. "A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack"- Yoda, Empire Strikes Back. And you see it through the OT, Jedi never use the Force to hurt people (save for Luke in Return of the Jedi...you want to talk about Luke Skywalker and controversy, THAT'S the movie we need to be debating and getting into internet squabbles over). It's always Vader and the Emperor who use the Force as a weapon.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Rotj Luke is tempted by the dark side cuz of the emperor trying to manipulate him to use his anger and kill Vader so it makes sense that he attacks instead of defending like a Jedi would

[–]NilkoBlanks 1 point2 points  (1 child)

People don't have an issue with this scene. And people wouldn't have an issue with Luke dying if it weren't for the way it happened within the narrative.

One of the major plot points of The Force Awakens was finding Luke Skywalker. The movie made a big deal of him, as well it should've. It ends with Rey finding Luke and holds on this cliffhanger that we had to wait two years to resolve. And when The Last Jedi comes out, the resolution is the typical "Old hero is depressed and/or angry and wants nothing to do with the new adventure" trope. So, we had to go through the whole movie watching Luke Skywalker, legendary Jedi and straight-up childhood hero to a majority of Star Wars fans, mope around, yell at Rey, and do just about nothing until the third act.

Okay, that's fine. That's how these tropes usually go, where the old hero has to be convinced to join the fight at the very end. And that's what happens. He reunites with Leia, which was damn near tear-jerking, and then he goes into battle. This scene is awesome, and we get a glimpse of the badass Luke Skywalker that we've wanted all movie long, even if it was just a Force projection.

And then he dies. Just fucking dies.

He's not wounded in battle. He doesn't sacrifice himself so the heroes can win. It's not even foreshadowed or explained. He just...uses the Force too hard or somesuchshit, I don't know. Somehow, Palpatine returned, and somehow, Luke died.

So, yeah. The scene itself is just fine. Awesome, even. But the circumstances around it are simply lazy writing.

[–]toonboy01 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He doesn't sacrifice himself so the heroes can win.

He literally did sacrifice himself so they could win though.

It's not even foreshadowed or explained.

Kylo to Rey: "You are not doing this, the effort would kill you."

[–]FatBoyWithTheChain 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I really don’t think people’s hate of Luke’s characterization in TLJ comes from this scene

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea it’s mostly from the fact that Luke for the rest of the movie is a weird old hermit. Most fans wanted to see prime Luke, Disney gave us hermit Luke, this scene depicts somewhat prime Luke

[–]oriensoccidens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not reading all of that but I 100% agree

[–]OblivionArts 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This particular scene is fine, but when mark hamil himself says he doesnt like what they did with luke in the new trilogy, im more inclined to take his word

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Yea I totally agree with you Luke’s character was wasted , generally the sequels had so much potential . I hope they do a clone wars like series for this era so they can somehow fix the plot

[–]OblivionArts -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hopefully they give him the mail treatment cause that dudes characterization has been really good

[–]Vrain125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two things, firstly, please learn to space you paragraphs, it is an assault to the eyes to see just a plain wall of text.

Secondly, most don't have a problem with this scene, the problem comes from the scenes surrounding it. Luke shouldn't of died like that (if at all)

As for characterization, it was when he was on the island that was the worst part, they tried to make him a 2nd old ben but instead just turned him into a grumpy old man.

[–]SkywalkerSolo24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right, this is the most Jedi thing anybody does in the whole series.

[–]soccer1124 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Also, Luke's 'character' was never betrayed in this movie. He's still Luke. Luke didnt' exactly resist the dark side with flying colors in RotJ. If Palpatine didn't start cackling so early, he very well could have killed Vader in anger, hatred.

In TLJ, the stakes for Luke are much different. If Kylo goes bad, it's all Luke's fault. That hits your conscience a lot harder. I can't imagine the responsibility of training someone to where if I mess up, I'll be creating a galactic genocidal monster.

And it seems these force visions are incredibly intense. Luke was never shown to be able to resist those in the OT, and in fact, the led his dad to being willing to kill an entire legion of children. But most importantly: He did not follow through on it. He was able to stop himself. So it's not like he gave in. In fact, he stopped himself here faster than he did in RotJ, I'd argue.

I'll tell you this much:

Luke's decision to go into exile makes a hell of a lot more sense than Yoda's. The PT makes Yoda look like a sad-sack quitter. Luke's decision to go into exile makes way more sense.

[–]Titanman401 2 points3 points  (0 children)

RIGHT?!

[–]genemaxwell41Imperial -1 points0 points  (3 children)

"If Palpatine didn't start cackling so early, he very well could have killed Vader in anger, hatred."

No...Palpatine's "cackle" is not why Luke stops his aggression. It was the sight of his father at his mercy and realizing he has made a grave mistake

"But most importantly: He did not follow through on it. He was able to stop himself. So it's not like he gave in. In fact, he stopped himself here faster than he did in RotJ, I'd argue."

He would NEVER have even for a MICROSECOND given in, much less activated his lightsaber. You keep harping on the fight with Vader but it took the evil presence of BOTH Vader AND the Emperor, the knock down drag out fight with Vader, the feeling that his friends and the fleet was about to lose, AND then finally Vader ACTIVELY threatening to turn Leia if Luke doesn't, to FINALLY get Luke to, while still in active combat, give into the dark side ever so briefly to get an edge over his opponent.
That is NOT the same as getting some vague feelings and visions of a POSSIBLE future where Ben gives into the darkness. Luke wouldn't have stood over Ben while he slept and activated his blade. No way and there is no amount of your headcanon that can prove otherwise. The fact is RJ has REPEATEDLY said he wanted to make a movie and he didn't care about anything other than the story HE wanted which is why he obliterated so much lore and so many of the building blocks JJ left him.

"Luke's decision to go into exile makes a hell of a lot more sense than Yoda's"

Wrong again. Yoda at least TRIED to fight Sidious and failed. Luke KNEW of Snoke and rather than go face the new great evil, he ran away like a little bitch.

We have over 3 decades of the EU showing why Luke wouldn't have done that

[–]soccer1124 0 points1 point  (2 children)

https://youtu.be/hiNtc4MtJEg?si=WsROF4XTQF_pk8Ji&t=107

It's right there, bro. He still has the crazy eyes going on as he's staring down Vader at 1:54. And that's precisely when Palpatine starts to laugh. Luke is still staring at the defeated Vader before Palpatine is fully laughing and finally goes, "Good!" Then Luke snaps back to attention, and half-turns to Palpatine who goes on to say, "Your hate has made you powerful. Now fulfill your destiny And take your father's place by my side." As Palpatine is saying that Luke realizes what he was almost about to do. And then he makes the realization of both their hands chopped off, how much closer to being Vader he realized he was suddenly.

You are severely underestimating the intensity of Force visions. Again, we saw what it drove Anakin to doing in RotS. And we also see that it sent Luke into a major panic in ESB, causing him to disobey Yoda's instructions. You're being dishonest by describing those as "vague feelings of a POSSIBLE future." Come on. This is now the second blatant lie you've thrown out there.

Yoda didn't really fail with Palpatine until Yoda decided to quit mid-fight. He was actually on the verge of winning that fight before he fell down. Why couldn't he just go back up there? (Because Lucas ran out of time and didn't know how to wrap up the story to mesh with the PT and he wrote himself into a corner the minute he decided to make the noted pacifist Yoda into a power hungry war criminal.)

The EU sucked too, while I'm at it, lol. Good riddance to that garbo.

[–]genemaxwell41Imperial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're putting TOO much emphasis on Palpatine laughing.
Luke was never going to give in enough to kill Vader. Remove Palps and he would have stopped regardless.

I'm not underestimating the power of Force Visions. But Anakin only went crazy with them because his was ALWAYS right. He was plagued with guilt for not trying to act more in regards to the visions of his mother and he resented Kenobi for always downplaying them.
Had Obi-Wan taken Anakin's visions seriously and allowed them to go to Tattooine and see Shmi, they 100% would have saved her. Anakin knew that. So he vowed to not let the same thing happen again.

I haven't ONCE "blatantly" lied dude. So I had the EXACT timing off with the laugh, that doesn't change the fact that Luke wasn't going to finish Vader. Palps is a non-factor.
And they WERE vague feelings. Luke SAYS he merely SENSED the darkness "growing" in Ben. That is VAGUE. He foresaw a SINGLE future where Ben goes full dark. Also known as a POSSIBLE future.
So once more, I objectively didn't lie. You're throwing out accusations that are provably false.

Yoda straight up SAYS he failed. The novelization indicates he failed. The comic version indicates he fails. YODA FAILED. End up story. He knew he couldn't win the encounter.

Lastly, the EU didn't suck. Anyone that says otherwise hasn't really delved into it and as such your opinion is invalid.

Good day

[–]soccer1124 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, bro blocked me for this.

[–]genemaxwell41Imperial 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No.
If you REALLY want to capture Luke in this scene this is how it SHOULD have played out.

Luke shows up in his X-Wing and destroys the canon so it can't be fired again.
He comms Ren to come see him inside.

Luke lands and tells Leia to take the others and go out the back. Rey will be waiting.
The siblings embrace because Leia knows Luke's plan.

Luke and Ren have a fight. It's spectacular and awesome and all the stuff we'd expect.
All the while, Luke is getting in Ren's head, just like he did in the movie here, and tries to pull out some light or at least open the door some more for it.
Then, once Luke senses Rey has everyone safe, he smiles at his nephew, tells Ren that he will always be around, then closes his eyes, and allows Ren to cut him down JUST LIKE Obi-Wan did to Vader.

THAT is how you do that moment. Not some BS Luke died of "exhaustion"

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

A jedi never uses the force to attack only to gain knowledge or something along those lines that Yoda said to Luke in the original trilogy . Luke is not Anakin he is not this badass Jedi that fights an entire empire with a lightsaber he only uses the force and his lightsaber when it’s absolutely necessary . Luke showing how powerful he is even when he’s an old man makes kylo seem weak hurting he’s ego . As much as I would love to see what you describe I don’t think it would make that much sense

[–]genemaxwell41Imperial 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He wouldn't be "attacking"
He would literally be copying what Obi-Wan does in A New Hope.
It's a literal 1 for 1 moment.

Obi-Wan goes on his own and deactivates the Tractor Beam then ACTIVELY seeks out Vader and duels him.

Yoda also goes on the offense in the prequels not once but twice against Sith. First against Dooku in AotC and second against Sidious in RotS.

What I described fits with Yoda's teachings AND follows the very example laid out by both of his masters.

You're focusing too much on the literal words of Yoda without accounting for context and deeper meaning.
A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and *defense*, never for *attack*
If Luke did exactly what I described, which again is exactly what Obi-Wan did during A New Hope, Luke wouldn't be attacking Ren. He would be defending the others so they could escape.

Yoda's message in Empire Strikes Back is simply a Jedi doesn't use the Force to aggressively seek out conflict and mayhem. He uses it as a tool to protect those who cannot protect themselves

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm perhaps you’re right but you must take into account that the Jedi in the prequels are not traditional Jedi but generals and warriors monks . That’s why Yoda uses the force offensively at least that’s how I interpret it . Nonetheless the are many way to interpret the Jedi philosophy throughout the saga so I respect your opinion and agree with some points you make but I still believe that the scene we got was superior .

[–]DCmarvelman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deescalation of war should have been the story of TROS with Finn at the center of it, not just blowing up the other side again

[–]TanSkywalkerAnakin Skywalker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He only did it because he didn’t leave with Rey. It was a desperate last act that could have been avoided if he’d left or he could have pulled the trick while on the planet and maybe not have died.

Jedi, like anyone else (at least I hope), know when they are dealing with someone who won’t back down. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan don’t ask Maul to surrender because they knew he wouldn’t do it was lightsabers out!

[–]Tidela471Jedi [score hidden]  (0 children)

It’s not this scene. It’s the pretty much the entire rest of the movie

[–]CanisZeroRebel -1 points0 points  (1 child)

What do you mean thats not Luke. Thats Jeff Skywalker. Or at best Luuke.

[–]Best-Fox-8024 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This guy Star Wars

[–]alterxcr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People are so whiny about Luke in the sequels. But for me, it's perfect:

  • He is the son of the guy that was supposed to be the Chosen One. A prodigy that after being trained as a Jedi turned to the dark side. Then, actively participated in the mass execution of the Jedi, young kids and facilitated the creation of the Galactic Empire.
  • He managed to destroy said Empire just to see his nephew, that he trained as a Jedi turn to the dark side, and attempt to enslave the Galaxy again, successfully destroying the core of the New Republic.

The Skywalker lineage has been terrorizing the Galaxy for decades using the Force and people still wonder why he's so bitter about the Jedi and doesn't want to train the random kid that showed up while he was self exiled 😂

[–]Wish_I_WasInRome -1 points0 points  (2 children)

People were disappointed because after all these years of waiting to see Luke in his prime go all out, we get a projection of him which although is interesting, kind of feels like we were blue balled since he didn't really do anything. Not to mention that they ruined his character earlier in the movie, its not surprising that people didnt like this moment 

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I understand the hate for Luke’s character in the last Jedi I truly do when I saw the film I was 6 years old and when it ended I told my father that the whole plot was trash and that they wanted Luke but this particular scene was the only thing that made sense to me . With that said looking back to the movie if it wasn’t for the bad Luke writing maybe this ending wouldn’t have hit as hard as it did

[–]Wish_I_WasInRome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this moment would have been perfectly fine IF we got to see him do some actual fighting ala like in Mando. I personally didn't hate it.

[–]Free_Possession_4482 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This scene was fine. The events that led to this confrontation are what people say were out of character.

[–]Shamone70-1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I was thinking the same thing except I would scrap all of what happens before this scene. If I gave the Last Jedi a different story line and just insert this scene with my own lore for Luke’s reason being there, this scene easily becomes one of the best in the whole saga. Seeing luke not even try and be a full fledged Jedi master was something I couldn’t believe Disney didn’t deliver.

[–]Papa_Razzi[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure it was a good scene. It also wasn't earned. And him force handing Leia the dice was silly.

[–]asgardian_superman -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You missed so much dawg. That’s not luke. It’s not about striking first. You missed so much.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you explain it then

[–]unbelizeable1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

he will always find the good in others

Which is exactly why he tried to kill his sleeping nephew.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea that’s something that does not sit right with me as I said I’m not defending his character in the movie only in this scene

[–]SithAzzazzin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Agreed, but that Luke already existed in the EU before Disney gutted it to steal ideas from.

[–]Hansolocup442 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

you’re right, tremendous scene. someday people will get over it

[–]Yesitsmesomeguy -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Paragraphs....

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

English is not my first language sorry for the paragraphs

[–]ComiendoPalomitas -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Downvoted for grammar.

Kid, learn to write before posting.

It is called paragraphs.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude English is not my first language relax

[–]Titanman401 0 points1 point  (1 child)

THIS. OP, you are entirely correct. Well done for being a truth-teller in this place of ignorance.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

People need to hear that the sequels while mostly bad had their moments and when they had them they were some of the best in the saga

[–]Shannontheranga -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Not hot, just F tier take. But based on how you wrote this poorly structured paragraph I’m not surprised.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

English is not my first language sorry for the paragraphs

[–]Shannontheranga 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My bad. Good effort on writing.

[–]WeeklyBase1280Ezra Bridger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve tried to fix the grammar think it’s better now . I saw another reply about spaces between commas I’ve been putting spaces after commas all my life so I don’t know if it’s correct or not

[–]kent5217 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank god the freakshow died with immaculate wierd hair

[–]zencrusta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t disagree but I think it’s undermined by him dying, just takes the wind out of my sail. Especially since they came up with a fantastic reason for him to not get take center stage in the Ben Rey conflict.

[–]Sambo3002 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Literally the only good Luke scene

[–]kailin2017 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

The key words here are "this scene." Let's not forget that this scene is in the movie that shows Luke nearly killing his nephew. There was no finding the good or wisdom in that moment.

Also the fact that he force-projected himself was cowardly and the fact that he died as a result of doing it was idiotic.

[–]Great_Kiwi_93 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No it doesn't.

Luke never tries to kill his Nephew, this is BLATANTLY incorrect.

Please watch the movie and work on your comprehension skills

[–]kailin2017 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Literally ignites his lightsaber. He stops himself after that, but he literally took every step to kill Ben short of actually doing it. Hence, NEARLY killing him

[–]AnarchoGonzo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly Episode 8 was pretty decent imo. Definitely the best of the trilogy. But frankly it's psychotic that Disney didn't have anyone map out an overarching plot for the trilogy ahead of time and instead just had 2 guys with completely opposite ideas for what the sequel trilogy should be go out there and retcon each other.

[–]Federal_Art_7326 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Shit was hot trash

[–]kent5217 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think it sucks and I cowardly

[–]inmyglorybaby -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

7-9 were all garbage regardless