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>>108618674 (OP)
100% mobile users
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Verizon basically broke their residential IPv6 hardware for their new fiber network upgrade (NGPON2).

So verizon at least will keep IPv4 for awhile longer, though they own millions of IPv4 addressess, so it's not a HUGE deal for them (yet).
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IPv8 when
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Thanks, Obama.
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>>108618674 (OP)
I still don't have ipv6.
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>>108618674 (OP)
Two more decades?
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>>108618708
what does have to do with it? your little cash for clunkers pet theory?
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>>108618751
Que
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>check
>actually have an IPv6 prefix now
>probably one of the machines that was responsible for raising it above 50%
Holy.... Fucking....... Based...........
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>>108618770
Based? based on what?
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>>108618685
this
you cant even disable ipv6 on phones
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>>108618674 (OP)
can we see per country
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>>108619078
Based on being based.
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>>108618692
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html

soon
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>>108618692
jej
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>>108619370
No.
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>>108618674 (OP)
Just 30 more years before full adoption
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>>108618692
I had ipv6 for more than a decade if I recall correctly, still paying peanuts.
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>>108619764
skin color?
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>>108619414
I doubt "full" adoption will ever happen in our lifetimes if you mean the full retirement of IPv4.
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>>108618674 (OP)
idgi why isnt is 100% ipv6
what's the advantage of using ipv4 in 2026?
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>>108619800
>>what's the advantage of using ipv4 in 2026?
99.9% of the internet still uses IPv4, and not all of them use IPv6.

So if you had to pick one over the other, IPv4 is the only sane option.


If you just need to access major web services it shouldnt be a problem if you're on IPv6 only, but much of the wider internet is still IPv4.

It's fairly easy to get by without IPv6 in 2026, it would be a pain in the ass to deal without IPv4.
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Ipv6ers tongue my anus
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>>108619768
white but I'm a brotha deep in my heart, you feel me?
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>>108619886
yeah u seem like a nigger for sure
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>>108619894
want to check my mixtape?
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>>108619901
ye
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>>108619156
You can actually (unless your carrier is exclusively IPv6 only like TMobile then you probably have to use it?). Just go in the APN settings and make sure IPv6 is off.
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>>108619925
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So, anyone with IPv4 disabled?
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>>108619951
It's just a toggle in my router.
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>>108619951
I think Windows might be the only OS that even lets you do that.

Linux is working towards that but they're not there yet. Too much code assumes "Inet == IPv4" and they have to untangle that to get it to the point that you can build a kernel with no IPv4 at all.

I have Jool doing NAT64 on my OpenWRT router though and send DHCP option 108 to indicate devices should work in an IPv6-mostly fashion if they support it.
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-link-v6ops-6mops-01.html

The next release of NetworkManager will support bringing up CLAT if configured to do so (Fedora is testing this) but for now it's just Android and iOS devices that work without IPv4 on my network.

I think Windows 11 is getting a CLAT too but I haven't tested that yet.
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>>108618674 (OP)
How many of those are from india or china?
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>>108619402
I got the same result and don't care. I could turn it on but I just don't care.
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>>108620016
You can view the individual countries stats:
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption

US is 54.61% respectively.
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>>108608317 →
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ezpz lemon squeezy
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>>108619951
you can't post on this site with it off
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>run ipv6 test on windows
>doesnt work
>reboot into linux
>works
dunno bros
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>>108620154
You probably have it disabled in your adapter settings, cocksnot.
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>>108620187
i dont you retard assumer, even pulling a global address
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>>108620154
Your router might not be sending router advertisements quickly enough for it to enable it.

On my OpenWRT router I ended up needing to configure Uradvd (I'm not using Odhcpd or Dnsmasq because I wanted a simpler config) like this:

        option max_router_adv_interval '10'
option min_router_adv_interval '3'
option default_lifetime '1800'


Without that Android devices wouldn't connect to the IPv6 mostly network quickly enough and would display connection error messages. Maybe Windows is similarly picky? Linux on the other hand it doesn't care, it see's IPv6 10 minutes later than it should be (maybe that's how long your shit system took to boot anyway) and then configures it.
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>>108620154
Damn Codex just identified the issue for me
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anyone notice that IP blocks are becoming less common? seems like lots more people are being grouped under the same ipv4 address and online services don't want to ban everyone
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>>108620240
That's CGNAT in action. If websites supported IPv6 properly then they'd be able to identify your IPv6 address and block you properly.
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>>108620239
Of course it's Realtek, it's always Realtek. *facepalm*. Their drivers are garbage even on Linux too. How they manage to fuck up an entire Internet protocol with their shitty hardware offloads I'll never know.

This is probably some checksum issue, etc. I remember a lot of NICs having issues calculating that properly, etc, in the past and it would break stuff with the offloading.
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>>108619966
(Me again):
If you can't wait for NetworkManager I just noticed clatd-git is in the AUR:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/clatd-git

I built a Podman container for it and it works. The NetworkManager version will probably more performant though because it uses BPF.
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>>108618674 (OP)
this is good, it makes it a lot harder for people to get doxed
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>>108620317
It's the exact opposite, you nimrod.
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https://github.com/anniemaybytes/chihaya
The only torrent tracker I use doesn't support IPv6, neither does Hentai@Home
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>>108620240
>anyone notice that IP blocks are becoming less common?
goood
fuck spur.us and I worship CGNAT
I use resi proxies everywhere I go and I noticed a lot less blocks as well. It seems social media websites are too scared to fight against resi proxies now
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>>108620317
If someone finds your IP they could still feasibly scan your entire /56 range. It's just tedious and time consuming.
>>108620324
Privacy addressing is literally built into the protocol and if that's not enough then you can NAT6 to a ULA so all devices on your network appear to be behind the one same address that's on the router like what you got with NAT on IPv4 (but this breaks the end-to-end principle of IPv6 and will make purists cry)
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>>108620328
Add http://tracker.ipv6tracker.org:80/announce to the trackers in QBittorrent.
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>>108619951
I used to do it but u cannot post on 4chan, only download images. Most of the internet still works.
Game servers don't work.
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>>108620342
Just scan 2^72 adresess, oh btw the OS cycles trough them constantly, oh by tomorrow I'm on another set of 2^72 adresess.
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>>108620257
>>108620240
I have the option to leave my CGNAT with a toggle to get a random public ipb4 adress and I always take it because it's better for gaming ping and overall jitter, can't trust no chink shit router that's overworked on their end.
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15y to get to 50% coverage? And that's the low hanging fruit..

Next 50% of remaining devices (to get to 75% coverage) will take another 15y.
Add another 15y to get to 87,5..
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>>108620482
IPv6 would be better again if game servers supported it because it's end-to-end with no NAT in the middle, but they never do because game devs are retards that can't into networking
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>>108620490
And your bank and insurance companies software is probably still running on top of Fortran.

This stuff takes time.
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IPv6 is great for getting static IP for personal use. Although mobile carriers in my cunt don't support IPv6 and even on desktop I have IPv6 connectivity issues with some sites.
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>>108619156
>you cant even disable ipv6 on phones
It's not about what you can disable or enable on your device. It's about what your network provider is willing to give you. If you disable IPv6 on an Android phone (which should be possible with enough privileges), it doesn't always mean that your provider will simply fall back to v4 - you might just have no connectivity at all.
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>>108618674 (OP)
>you VILL use the doxxable ipv6 address with unmodifiable prefix
>you VILL NOT BAN EVADE und YOU VILL NOT STAY ANONYMOUS O ALGO

>>108618685
this
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>>108618674 (OP)
Can't you use both at the same time?
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>>108620655
You can have both enabled on the same physical network segment, but you can't literally use both at the same time since they're not compatible (I'm not talking about tunneling or other hacks).
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>>108620586
>and even on desktop I have IPv6 connectivity issues with some sites.
Those are retards that "support" IPv6, they turned it on one day so they must do. No, they've never tested it.
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>>108620641
You can't modify the IPv4 prefix either, retard. It belongs to your ISP. You get whatever they assign to you.
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>>108620712
Ah makes sense
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IPV6 is fantastic. I'm connected with sars.
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It's a hell to set up UPnP with ipv6.
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>>108621067
>UPnP
lol
>UPnP with ipv6
lmao, even
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Is there a website that has well laid out info on the level of IPv6 support by ISP? Best I can find is Reddit anecdotes. Specifically I'm interested in UK mobile networks.
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>>108621092
I agree that given your skin color you shouldn't use it. Not safe.
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>>108621135
You shouldn't need to use UPNP with IPv6 in the first place. What the hell are you doing? Just open the ports in your firewall.
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>>108621130
No idea. I know Three supports IPv6 on their network. They provide NAT64 too. If you're on Android you can even use Google's DNS64 DoT resolver just enter dns64.dns.google in the private DNS field.
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>>108618674 (OP)
>it's leveling out
Ha!
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>>108621160
50% adoption's not bad. Effectively that means half of us have it and half of us (shitty frog posters in this thread that don't matter) don't.
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>>108620257
This. When I had ipv6 turned on, my address would get banned half the time on some websites for blocking all their trackers and cookies, one which was notorious was the old rarbg before it went down. On ipv4 they didn't bother.
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>>108618685
>>108619156
Must be nice, all the mobile carriers here settled on CG-NAT and there are no plans to move to IPv6.
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>>108618674 (OP)
What is bad about ipv6?
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>>108620627
The full IPv6 is just the subnet, see >>108621688
They just do CGNAT, if you don't have iPv6 they will just put you on what is the equivalent of the prefix as iPv4
They are not breaking this anytime soon because there are still ancient devices which need support and don't have iPv6
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>>108618674 (OP)
I had ipv6 but my retarded isp disabled when i asked to allow port forwarding on ipv4.
They told me they couldn't do both at the same time.
What a bunch of retards.
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>>108620524
Steam networking supports it
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>>108621923
So, what if MAC addresses were permanent, unspoofable and identified your devices on the internet? Are you amazed?
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>>108621955
probably not so much about the clients themselves (phones) being too old to support IPv6, but the fact that a fair bit of the Web is still inaccessible via pure v6.
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>>108622250
Name one major OS that doesn't default to privacy addresses
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>>108618674 (OP)
>ipv6 disabled on router level
yep.. never happening.
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IPV6 is completely fucking useless. It offers absolutely nothing over IPV4.
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>>108622459
It offers MOAR addresses, which is kind of the point.
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>>108622492
Name three reasons why that matters at all, besides being able to uniquely identify every end-device for tracking?
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IPv6 is the most borked tech upgrade in history. The last os without ipv6 by default has EOL'd over a decade ago yet we barley reached 50%. We need to seriously start boycotting ISPs that don't support IPv6, basically shaming them as "not real internet" like we do for ISPs that still use copper lines.
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>>108622459
bigger number better.
BIGGER. NUMBER. BETTER.
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>>108622536
>We
kill yourself troon
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>>108622518
IPv4 addresses are not enough.
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>>108620257
Riddle me this:
>server on Network A, clients on Network B, some 600 meters apart
>iperf3 -c to my remote server --bidir
>upload superfast, download capped at 1.05 Mbps per stream
>can't replicate issue with same clients on different networks
>using a commercial VPN fixes this
What the fuck
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>>108620655
Yes, it's called dual-stack.
Though they are two separate networks that can't talk to each other without cross version mechanisms.

>>108621139
Ports are already open. You need to add rules to not drop inbound packets.

>>108622250
>>108622315
This has been fixed with RFC 4941, which was published in 2007, 19 years ago.
Every single IPv6 connected device within the last 10 years use it by default.

>>108623024
Check your peering routes.
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>>108618674 (OP)
fun fact
battefield 4, as other older games, does not support ipv6
hence indians and other third worlders without ipv4 can't join
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>>108619800
NAT is comfy af
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>>108619951
Some digital hermits might.
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>>108623357
>indians and other third worlders without ipv4
I don't think you understand how any of this works.
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>>108622319
I do this but don't look like this
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>>108623397
care to explain?
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>>108623329
>Check your peering routes.
How do I even get someone, some ISP, to unfuck those for me? My jellyfin server is completely useless because of this fuckup, which I have never experienced from any other client on any other network around the world. It's just at my new apartment. Fucking hell
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>>108623435
Yes, let me explain. They also have access to IPv4 so it wouldn't make a difference.
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>>108621160
Well duh. Decentralised user adoption always follow a sigmoid function shape.

>>108622459
>>108622518
>no port forwarding
>no split horizon dns
>no sni proxies
>no hairpin routing
>no nat
>can write BABE:CAFE directly in the address
>gets back end-to-end connectivity
>somehow it's worse

>>108622590
This but unironically.
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>>108623459
Either switch to a different ISP or ask your current ISP support to book an appointment with an IT network technician and explain to the technician that their peering routes are fucked up for your connection.
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>>108622694
Why?
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>>108623629
IPv4 uses 32-bit addresses which limits the address space to 4294967296 (232) addresses. We need at least 4 or 5 more than that for the internet.
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>>108623500
not enough, also, residential connections won't get them most of the time
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>>108623675
no we don't, the internet can and should be gatekept from third worlders and simpletons to prevent decay
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>>108623709
Your mouthbreathing and yokel fervor have nothing to do with this discussion.
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i don't see the point in ipv6
i have a static ipv4 so i disabled it in my router on purpose
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>>108623898
there are more indians and chinese than public ipv4 adresses
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>>108623675
My country has more than enough IPv4 addresses, but even if it didn't we have more than enough using NAT.
Next argument?
>>108624081
So what? Why does every person need a unique IP address?
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>>108624613
>My country has more than enough IPv4 addresses
You're a complete fucking idiot.
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>>108624626
Seethe brownoid kike.
If you can't give a single reason why every user needs a unique IP address, then why should anyone give a fuck that your shitty country was late to the internet?
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>>108624718
Not him but I'll give you one. It completely simplifies the TURN/STUN mess needed for peer to peer communications.

Voice calls, online gaming, WebRTC, file sharing, all of that just works.
Mid wits are too smooth brained to realise these gains though.

This message was brought to you by the "I need a public static IPv4 address for lower latency whilst online gaming even though I'm still traversing a million NATs and my games console doesn't even have a public address anyway gang"
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>>108624957
You already posted two simple solutions that make IPv4 work fine (STUN/TURN).
>this message was brought to you by: bing bing wahoo! I'm a PRO-GAMER MOM, STFU I can't PAUSE it mom!!!!
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>>108625002
It's a workaround and a very expensive one on the case of two restrictive NATs. The real solution is to go back to having end-to-end connectivity and then your security story becomes much more simpler. No more abusing these relay servers for nefarious purposes.
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ipv6 will never get widespread on desktop because its retarded shit

>bro just join my server on:
>6513:3cc8:5378:6117:9d9f:b1f0:3add:195c
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>>108625141
Use DNS:
>Bro just joing my server it's dicksucker69.com:27015

Or even better, click your Steam profile and join game. Why do things have to be made needlessly complicated for no reason?
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>>108625204
>use these 3 workarounds to make ipv6 usable
"no"
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retards will deepthroat CGNAT before even considering ipv6
>making everything not work is totally worth not having icky letters in IPs that I never see
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>>108625242
You're already using DNS right now in your browser. Nobody except retarded gamers is manually dialling in IP addresses.

Using DNS also has the added advantage that you can move the server and people will still be able to find it at its canonical location. This is true whether IPv4 or IPv6 by the way.
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well yes, i only use IPv4 and 1.1.1.1
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>>108625307
It's one.one.one.one stupid frog poster:
$ dig one.one.one.one AAAA +short
2606:4700:4700::1111
2606:4700:4700::1001
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>>108618692
IPv6 is such overkill that a further version is literally never happening unless tremendous botting of virtual IP addresses or something equally retarded starts happening en masse.
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>>108625256
>being trivially identifiable is totally worth being able to reduce my latency in my Bing Bing wahoo!!!
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>>108625321
>It's 2606:4700:4700::1111 stupid digger.
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>>108625721
where did I say it should all be static? faggot
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>>108625728
what is the issue
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>>108625732
He's a Middle Eastern Arabian frog poster that only has IPv4
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>>108620348
The only time I torrent is from AnimeBytes (thats the tracker software they use there), it doesn't support IPv6 unfortunately. No reason t oadd that one
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>>108626447
It's good to add (except if dealing with private trackers, obviously) because the tracker can still track torrents from anywhere.

If you normalise:
>IPv6 friens add this tracker to your default trackers in QBittorrent
Then eventually you might actually find some IPv6 peers over time even if the shitty torrent websites tracker doesn't support it.

It's a simple low-effort thing you can do. QBittorrent has a setting to automatically add a list of additional trackers to torrents you download.
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>>108626598
It would be useful if trackers ever got off their ass and adopted bittorrent v2 but they wont
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>>108623898
See >>108623558

>>108625721
>>108625729
IPv6 is on the same level as IPv4 privacy wise.
I would even argue that IPv6 is more private.
Your devices should change address automatically after some time. Session tracking and address tracking should be harder to do when each device have a different value.
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>>108618685
v6 blocks are most likely jeets, The west it's been extremely territorial about letting go of their v4
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>ISP enables IPv6 on router
>turn it on
>it's a static address, get banned from a dozen websites who think I'm a bot cause I won't allow their cookies and block their ads and can't ban evade by jumping to another dynamic address
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>>108627006
unironically there not being enough ipv4 addresses to assume every one is static and unique per user is a feature.
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>>108618674 (OP)
i still dislike IPv6 just because it uses :
so if you want to write a port number you need to wrap it like this
[2001:0db8:85a3:::8a2e:0370:7334]:81

like could they not have used any other character than :
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>>108625204
steam won't even exist by the time IPv6 gets to 90% usage
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>>108627372
Use DNS. Your system has a hosts file too even if you don't want to maintain the DNS server. Use it.
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>>108618685
fpbp and /thread
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>>108627420
that doesn't change that it was dumb of them to use : instead of anything else
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>>108618674 (OP)
ipv6 is diabled on all my shit, trust issue. Sive it's all moved offline it can stay on IPV4 only forever too
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>>108627443
What should they have used instead? They can't use dots because that has a special notation used to encode IPv4 addresses e.g the IPv4 address 1.1.1.1 can be written like 64:ff9b::1.1.1.1 and is equivalent to 64:ff9b::101:101
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>>108627453
If it's all offline then you might as well use IPv6 link local addresses.
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>>108627443
The web and IPv6 were designed around the same time by different people.
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>>108627388
>>108625204
steam is fucking cancer has been ever since it caused distribution of dead physical media, your shit current state of gayimg is your own fucking fault

all you normies deserve the shit you get and an AIslop explanation is your tier
"IPv6 spyware refers to malicious software that exploits the unique characteristics of the IPv6 protocol, such as direct device addressability, to bypass traditional NAT firewalls, perform stealthy scanning, and enable remote code execution. Attackers can use IPv6 to directly reach and control vulnerable, exposed devices.
Key IPv6 Security Risks and Spyware Vectors
Direct Exposure (No NAT): Unlike IPv4, which often uses Network Address Translation (NAT) to hide devices, IPv6 often assigns unique, routable addresses to every device, exposing them directly to the internet.
Stealthier Reconnaissance: Attackers can utilize IPv6 address aliasing—assigning multiple addresses to one host—to evade detection and mask malicious activity.
Remote Exploitation: Attackers can craft malicious IPv6 packets that exploit vulnerabilities in a system's TCP/IP stack to gain control without user interaction.
Metadata Leaks: IPv6 addresses can be derived from a device's MAC address, making it easier for spyware to track activity across different networks. "
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>>108627453
>trust issue
skill issue more like
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>>108627484
your retard ai chatbot doesn't even know what a firewall is kek how do you think nat works
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>ipv6's goal is to keep users on a static address with no nat (basically, no firewall and constant dmz)
>there are more than enough ipv4 addresses if private allocations were obliterated
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>>108627473
but i won't because everything works perfectly with IPv4 including my old OSs like solaris and nt4 and w2kpro, symos etc
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>>108627484
>Direct Exposure (No NAT): Unlike IPv4, which often uses Network Address Translation (NAT) to hide devices, IPv6 often
>Often
>It often assigns, routable addresses to every device, exposing them to the Internet
So not always then.

Nothing stops you from using NAT6 and distributing a ULA to your LAN that's not globally addressable and then foregoing a GUA altogether.

OpenWRT even has full support for doing just this:
https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6/ipv6.nat6

You're fucking retard for wanting this but it's there. Just because something is often done a particular way doesn't mean you have to follow them. If you want your NAT you can have it.
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>>108627487
I'd lay money you are too retarded to even have an offline lan and 99% of what you do sits on cloud services. You are the skill issue incarnate.
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>>108627508
Yes that's nice dear. Don't need your slop. Bye now.
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>>108627511
>offline lan
just unplug the wan port
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>>108627521
>NAT in IPv4 :)
>NAT in IPv6 :(
Make your mind up. Do you want the slop or not. If NAT in IPv6 is slop then it must also be slop in IPv4. Might as well throw your router in the trash.
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>>108627508
beautiful normie trap though doncha think? You going to sell me cloud connected tpm 2 next?
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>>108627528
That's right your getting there. So You have your LAN with all your wonderful operating systems and their software libraries and some of them don't support it so why the fuck would you use it?
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>>108627469
We could have just have IPv5, that was merely a 64 bit address instead of 128.

Could have been a simple in-place extension of existing IPv4 addresses.


1.2.3.4 would be implicitly 0.0.0.0.1.2.3.4

If you needed an address higher than 2^32 you would just add a fifth digit like 1.1.2.3.4
But instead of doing the rational and logicial thing and going to 64 bits, they instead jumped all the way to a retardedly large bit range that is far larger than anyone ever wants to use.
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>>108627588
>just add a prefix to existing addresses
They tried that multiple times. You still need a dual stack system or a translator.
https://github.com/becarpenter/misc/blob/main/why6why.md
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>>108618692
I love comcast
i mean it is a shit service in many ways but they have a metric ton of ipv4 and i doubt I will have to use anything else for the foreseeable future.
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>>108627639
They should've gone with 256bit addresses.
128bit isn't nearly enough
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>>108620641
>connect to network willingly
>NOOOO I AM BEING DOXXED
You're a fucking idiot. Kill yourself.
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>>108627674
chad ipv4 holdout
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>>108627484
You have to kill yourself. You actually thought all ipv6 is publicly routed? You actually thought that don't lie.
Kill yourself.
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>>108625141
>bro just join my server is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Use DNS FAGGOT.
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>>108627502
>no firewall
It does not mean that you colossal faggot. If I know your public ipv4 address does that mean you have no firewall?
Dumb cunt.
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>>108627469
>What should they have used instead?
anything except @ and other already-used things like : or /.
semi-colons, commas, exclamation marks etc.
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>>108627742
So that leaves some random unicode character then. Probably more annoying than just re-using the colon with square brackets to delaminate them.
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>>108625141
The choice to use colon, something that requires a shift to hit instead of just a dot was a very retarded choice.
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>>108627953
Do you often find yourself inputting a lot of IPv6 addresses like some sort of mechanical turk?
Maybe invest in some sort of custom keyboard with a nice big colon key that doesn't require a shift. Maybe even some sort of custom numpad design.
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>>108627963
It's a convenience thing. I can enter ipv4 addresses into my local DNS server on a numpad and nothing more. For ipv6 it takes quite a bit more time unless I use addresses with lots of 0s so I can just skip most of the address length.
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>>108627975
Why are you inputting DNS manually instead of using DHCP and RDNSS?
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>>108627988
Servers are configured with a static IP and a manual DNS entry. Anything else is retarded. Clients who gives a fuck, they get DHCP and have their hostnames registered upon lease acceptance.
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>>108627998
Why not just setup static DHCP lease and have the DHCP server push to the DNS server?
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>>108627747
why are you like this? were you on the team that created IPv6?
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>>108628017
Colons are not evil, okay.
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>>108628014
Lol no. There is no reason to hope the DHCP server will always without fail fulfill the lease. One thing fucks up and oops, shits down. My DHCP server and DNS server are on the same box. It updates DNS when a lease is handed out. However if I'm going through the effort of making a static lease, it doesn't take much just to enter a DNS entry. Most sever oriented OSes make it piss easy to set a static IP during the OS installation and setup.
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>>108628034
I should further add I know the IP address of my server so lets say DNS does go down for some reason, I can still get to my server. If it was on DHCP and who knows if that worked I'm walking over to the machine and logging in locally just to figure out what fucked up instead of just doing so from the comfort of my desk.
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>>108628023
i just said i disliked IPv6 because it forces you to add an extra [] when using ports, i didn't even say i hated it... i don't think it warranted ridiculous comments like >>108627747 as if there was really no other option than to use : outside of some "unicode character"
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>>108628043
Doing it through DHCP is nice because it lets you make DNS records entirely through CNAMEs and the underlying CNAME is the record from the DHCP server so you never have to manually encode IP addresses anywhere except the static lease but I do get the comment about wanting it to come up with networking even if the DHCP server is down, that is fair.
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>The presence of at least one colon in the text representation allows SIP addresses to be easily distinguished from both domain names and the text representation of IPv4 addresses.
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>>108628336
finally, someone who actually read the RFC in this thread...
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>every device in my network has a public IPv6 address
how the fuck do I opt out of this data mining surveillance bullshit
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>>108629666
Use NAT6 with a ULA like:
>>108627508

Then it's just like IPv4, every device on your network sits behind the routers address and the router does connection / state tracking to NAT to the source device with the ULA on the other end.

Or if you're not a fucking retard and understand how fucking stupid that is then you use the rotating privacy addresses instead. That way you get to keep end-to-end connectivity but your OS will rotate the address regularly.
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>>108618674 (OP)
Please god can we have zone ID support in browsers again?
I want be able to do ping ff02::1%eth0, find the link local address of the device (like a router when I fuck up network addresses), and access the web interface using https://[fe80::8ac3:97ff:feba:efc8%eth0]
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>>108629954
i don't know why but the format of that url just pisses me off for some reason
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>>108618674 (OP)
i was one of the persons responsible for rolling out almost over 2000 machines recently, i disabled ipv6 on all of them

old = good
new = bad
simple as
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>static address
yeah you can keep it
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>>108629954
Once again, use DNS.

It's valid to add an entry to /etc/hosts like:
fe80::XXXXX%eth0 my-host


Then you can go to http://myhost in your browser and that just works since it knows what a zone identifier is and can resolve it properly, it's just extremely fucking retarded about it.
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IPv6 + mDNS is the best
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>>108630524
If you don't mind spamming your network with multicast crap, yeah. If you own any Apple device or smart shit it's going to happen regardless though.

On my network I just setup proper DNS with ISC Kea and Bind9 so I can always go to <hostname>.home.arpa.
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>>108630553
why are you network engineering spergs so obsessed with minimizing traffic as much as possible
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>>108618674 (OP)
Its ipv6 support
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Redpill me on IPv6 without the irrelevant stuff like it being harder to read or lack of technical support in legacy systems? How does it differ from IPv4 other than having more available addresses? What are the advantages and disadvantages for the user and the internet as a whole?
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give me a blowjob
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>>108619886
habibi
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>>108630323
I'm sure that works since I swear I've seen mDNS use them, but at least on my machine nothing can resolve it.
All I can find is a stackexchange thread and 14 year glibc bug report saying that nsswitch doesn't support it, no idea if that applies here.
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14413

I've got a script that uses socat to forward them localhost:8080, it's just that it would be nice if firefox supported them again, but of course mozilla won't implement anything now if google doesn't, and google isn't gonna implement it because
>we're especially not keen to support these in Chrome
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On fiber in San Francisco and no ipv6
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>>108630826
you wouldn't get it...
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>>108625376
ipv8 is basically ipv4 on steroids... would go for ipv8 instead of overcomplicated ipv6



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