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Recently, a lot of anti-gooner stuff has happened, and I'm very very happy about it, UK requiring ID verification, websites blocking the UK from even viewing them and Visa cracking down on harmful content, call me whatever you want, a traitor, someone who hates free speech, I'm very much happy for it, but the thing that pisses me off so much, are the people coming out constantly crying and complaining over the government making it harder for them to goon.

I don't give a single fuck if the government is doing it for some roundabout reason to prevent criticism and silence freedom of speech even more, when I was a child, you google sonic or pokemon photos, if you scroll down all you see is goonslop. This country and other countries and their societies are so deeply FUCKED by oversexuality and pornography that ofcourse, the moment you try to harm it or kill it, they start fucking crying, and the mass consensus as a whole is so brainwashed that as soon as you start actually making progress and banning all this disgusting shit, people are suddenly coming out of the fucking woodworks to defend it.

Among the contenders of banned content were incestual rape games and depictions of child molestation, and to see the likes of MoistCritikal and Asmongold etc come out and defend developers and their rights to create and sell this disgusting anti-social slop is fucking sickening. To see people get visibly upset that they can't goon instead of just getting a fucking girlfriend is hilarious. We went from moral outrage over games like "Rape Day" being uploaded to steam to suddenly defending incest rape games because feminists or whatever.

None of this should even be legal, all depictions of sexual degeneracy SHOULD be explicitly and outright BANNED entirely. What's the point of banning any of this shit, if you can create fictional depictions of it that for many, serve as a virtual analogue of the real thing? 
>No officer, I'm not an incestual pedophile, it's just 1000 year old loli vampire hentai
>I don't want to fuck animals it's just furry porn
We need a serious and total societal crackdown on this shit, and not just because it's what I want personally, but because I do actually believe that the lives of children matter and the influence that pornography has over our children is genuinely severe. When I was younger, I was in many 18+ Discord servers that didnt even bother to do the bare fucking minimum ID verifications, and now that we actually have something good like this, people are crying for it to be reverted.

At this point, the first world is completely fucked in terms of child safety, so I'm starting to lose hope. Billionaire pedophiles get away with it, and Discorders are practically treating pedophilia as if it was apart of the LGBT, like it's just a normal thing that hecking society is oppressing or whatever the fuck. I see absolutely no reason, not even from an artistic standpoint as to why any of these depictions of criminalized illegal acts should be served and sold on the internet. Anyone who is coming out to defend this slop should be ashamed of themselves.

Kids are amongst the most impressionable and easily vulnerable targets on the internet, to put all the responsibility up to the retarded parents who don't even know this shit is going on because they don't have awareness or don't check on their child's internet activity is insane. They use this as an excuse for everything.
>Just let your parents protect you bro
My mother didn't know anything was wrong with me and I had a lot of issues as a kid, it's the exact same thing with other kids. These fucking retards have no clue what they're talking about. We're making major strides in actually doing something for the safety of children and they just want to take it away from us. At what point do they just stop caring entirely? With all these billionaires fucking kids and getting away with it, we might end up with a world where people forget that's even a crime.

Weimar warned us.
>>14516 (OP) 
Google is still fucked now btw, the first thing that comes up on SAFE SEARCH ON STRICT when you google anything fucking kid related is just porn, and I'm sick of it. I'm so genuinely fucking angry that we've just allowed this to happen and we're defending people and their rights to do it. We're living in a society that is getting angry at the government for taking away their "right" to create pornography involving characters from children's media, television shows and videogames.

This is fucking demonic.
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>>14516 (OP) 
That's a costume party, right? So that's a kid wearing that shit.

Baffling.
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Genuinely the only person right now who can save the kids is Ruben fucking Sim.
He created a Discord bot that notifiers server owners if other users are in NSFW servers or condo servers, creating a safer environment for children. Discord was notified about this and banned his bot for "discrimination against protected characteristics" and apparently are in some sort of legal battle. 

This man has been sued by Roblox for exposing one of their creepy nude artist pornographer moderators, and now he's implicated in a fight against Discord. They hired an entire team of people just to monitor him and his online activity, which he then used to get pedophiles banned from Roblox by using his account "Moderation for Dummies" which was terminated multiple times. He's even created a user database to get preds banned from games and companies like Roblox and Discord are not happy about this. Instead, David wants FUCKING NUDITY AND DATING ON ROBLOX.

We're living in a dystopian world where child safety actually just does not fucking matter, like at all. I am genuinely upset.
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>>14519
Just shut Roblox and Discord down at this point
>>14516 (OP) 
Dragonsnow needs to be fucking lynched. The fact that he's fine with seeing a child dress up as his latex transformation fetish character makes me sick.
Free speech should be abolished if it means vices like pornography are allowed within our society
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>>14527
Dragonsnow's father should beat his son again until he's actually dead for making the absolute brimstone that is changed
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>>14529
TSMT
Imagine if drugs and alcohol were treated the same way current western society treats porn
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>>14532
>My 13 year old is currently doing crack, they grow up so fast!
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>Mad at the Internet
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>>14516 (OP) 
This attitude very clearly isn't going to immediately shoot ourselves in the foot or anything...
>>14519
Maybe we should continue advocating for going down the path that is actually effective at stopping the EPI degeneracy and only harms the gooner perpetrators and no one else.
Ruben has been making great strides with RoCleaner when previous attempts to clean up Roblox have been small scale and targeted towards individuals and inconveniencing singular condo servers from raids and just barely managing to get gooner games removed from literal thousands of reports from users. We are making great progress and all it takes is more people to follow in Ruben Sim's initiative and more of the Roblox community will be able to self-segregate and quarantine the community from the sexual deviants when Roblox themselves have shown to not give a shit.
I had never thought that I'd see the day when Steam is finally pressured into removing porn games from its store. Previously I'd thought that Steam was an immovable monolith that would never rollback it's sale of pornographic materials, and yet they've buckled. This has been a core goal in my platform and vision in stopping the online degeneracy & EPI as there's no serious option to buy games outside of Steam and I thought it would never happen and yet it just happens on what seemed to be just another Tuesday. You can let your child not use social media or Roblox but you cannot let them play video games on PC without interfacing with Steam. And Itch io is even worse. Steam is a core vector in regards to pornography connecting with the surface internet and interfacing with people who would have never been exposed to it otherwise instead of only interfacing with a gooner audience on a dedicated platform like there are and should remain on instead of Changed leading to Kaiju Paradise etc.
And what do you know? A Total Gooner Death bonus gift? Itch io gets completely cucked against NSFW games in entirety. Yeah, we totally need to implement 1984 western social credit when clearly there are other avenues that are doing what needs to be done and the potential for abuse from those lobbying powers that caused it is much more easier to deal with than forfeiting every freedom you could ever have in interfacing with computers to the state. Come one guys.
What if Roblox finally gets what's coming to them with the same legal forces BTFO'ing Steam whom was previously seen as untouchable?  Nothing's outside the realm of possibility at this point and I would prefer this outcome over the Online Safety Act.
Why are we going nuclear when there are avenues that are proven to be working that don't involve fucking us all over?
>>14517
Yes that's fucking horrible but If you really wanted to stop an incident like that from happening you'd support DeviantArt purging all pornography and Google no longer indexing DA and rule34 into it's image search specifically and not advocating the implementation of communist chinese digital ID infrastructure instead. Let's keep it direct. IIRC either Furaffinity or E6 don't have Google indexing their images in search (I'm not gonna go and find out) this is not an unreasonable move to advocate for.

This online safety act is going to fuck over absolutely everything and not just porn. You're thinking in the moment and not thinking of the overall consequences of this. People are already bypassing it through using VPNs and printing out other people's faces or even fake ones and bypassing it. It won't stop anyone or even gooners who are dedicated enough but it still sets up the infrastructure needed for Digital ID and total capture by the state. Everyone reading this needs to wake the fuck up and stop being an emotional nusoi right now. This has already immediately affected non-UK citizens not just Brits and not just gooners. This very much directly impacts how anyone gets political news or information nowadays and this is how we castrate ourselves and limiting our own ability to discover information that the state and establishment and ((( they ))) don't want you to see, forever. Don't do this.

Lachlan literally read through everything I said last Tuesday and acted as if he agreed with me and now he's done a 180
Read this Steam screenshot:
>>14527
I've stated the opinions in this GC screenshot before. Nobody seems to have had a problem with it or they are retarded and didn't bother to read OR comprehend it. I've specifically stated that I do not want the state to be intervening with things like this throughout the entirety of this website's existence. This screenshot of mine was from last Tuesday in the GC. None of you in it cared to object and this was only 3-4 days ago. Yeah a good chunk of users aren't in the GC but the most prominent original users all are and multiple other statements of the same effect have existed on this site for a long time without anyone contesting it on those grounds. I can cite them if you wish but since I know you people do not like reading anything above the length of a Tweet I'm gonna hold from putting it here because people here hate reading and get intimidated by volume of words.
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>>14529
Remember that DragonSnow is responsible for mishandling his game's status on Steam leading to it becoming popular with the wrong audience, but apparently he's attempted to take action against Changed fangames on Roblox but 'blox doesn't give a single shit. He's still very much guilty but don't let the niggers and groomers and foodists running all over Roblox making this gooner antimatter acting like foxes in the henhouse evade your wrath. Not to mention those foodists have directly ruined our reputation on the sharty more than trolling and homofaslop and the GET ever has so they more than fucking deserve what's coming to them.

I'm not going to endorse destroying the entire internet and selling ourselves into digital slavery because your mood shifted and suddenly you're all radical and emotionally charged and willing to destroy everything regardless of the consequences when you yourself admitted that your mood and opinion fluctuates on a frequent basis right after that argument with Mikko Lachlan.
Fucking snap out of it and wake up.
This is fucking dangerous and ironically it's the most dangerous to you, uniquely, as a British website hoster of unprotected speech. You should not be clamoring for this and instead you should be panicking and racing to get your mother and others to sign that petition so parliament reconsiders and rolls it back.

Don't come at me like I've suddenly become a traitor I've held this opinion since day one, restated it days ago with no disagreement, offered clear and realistic solutions that are acting out in reality and as I forecasted them, and no one has likely dared to contest me on it until right now.

Please. We have to be civil on this.
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>"Any so called British right winger supporting the Online Safety Act because they hate gooning is the stupidest of fucking retards imaginable"
You are being played.

It's not just gooners who are begging people to sign as you'd likely try to use as an excuse to write off
It's all of the British Right and many more who are everyday normal people.
Why are you serious about being a traitor to your countrymen and your fellow chud?

It's about to hit 150k signatures at any moment
Think beyond yourself.
It's not just a thing for you.
We already have an avenue for which we are making our grievances known and enacting change through it.
We don't need this.
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>>14516 (OP) 
>someone who hates free speech
I'd argue that porn is not speech because porn does not say or express anything with any real meaning or message other than smut
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>100k signatures in 2 days
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>>14578
Yes, that's been the common historical definition of Obscenity. Even in a detached and sterile perspective, pornography has noticeable, observable effects that can create patterns of psychological dependance compared to non-obscene images. It's the biggest underlying reason why anything in the ballpark of sexuality is to be kept away from kids.
Thing is, most deracinated MillenniLOLs and Zoomers don't fucking have any moral foundation in anything and thus have no concept of this being commonly accepted until very recently, it's the sort of thing that has been lost when translating down to a new generation, one that grew up entirely online.

>>14579
Well what can you do? It's the fucking Yookay. You don't have shit and a gay petition is already a reach but what options do people have? It's about as equally gay as Lys forcing all dissent and site criticism into his gay little site meta/complaints thread and banning people for talking outside of it. It seems to be a pattern of totalitarian shitholes with no true freedom of speech. You'd get arrested if you tried voicing your dissent in any other non-Reddit avenue in the UK and you'd get 'nished off of Lys's site for not cucking yourself and not going through all of his retarded barriers to obstruct dissent and criticism. You don't have a choice anymore.
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>>14582
Porn is one hell of an addiction that will not go down without a bloody fight so it's not uprising that people want this law repealed even though they are better off without porn
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>>14583
It's not the porn
You're not reading what I'm posting are you?
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>>14584
Sorry I completely misunderstood. Yeah no I wasn't really reading that much because muh ADHD or something. Yeah I see your point. Forget what I said there.
Yeah I can see how the porn restriction and "child safety" can be used as smokescreen for more draconian policies. It isn't anything new.
Also I honestly think that Visa and Mastercards censoring storefronts sets a pretty bad precedent for censorship so while first it may be porn games, eventually, they would censor things with things that express viewpoints they don't approve of.
This isn't the victory against porn we wanted, really. A proper victory would be to at least ban the distribution of porn and don't add any draconian bullshit into it but that's just not how politics works these days.
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>>14586
Thank fucking god you're reading.
The lobbyist groups going after Steam and others are already a bit of an overreach worthy of worry
It's one of those things that I've listed as a very effective implement in my policy proposal but it's indeed very dangerous and Faux said similar things as you in the GC
This is already a dangerous thing to be dealing with without the Online Safety Act but combined it's like getting kicked in the nuts and then thrown in front of a moving vehicle.
If contained to just Steam and Itch io and maybe with prayers and fingers-crossed Roblox and then defanged and defunded I'd say totally, but yeah this is absolutely playing with fire.
And yes it absolutely does open up the precedent towards censorship and it's the absolute fundamental danger of leveraging payment processing people have to be extremely mindful of.
In fact this is already something that Obama put in via Executive Order that puts increased DOJ scrutiny on payment providers and somehow this ended under the first Orange Man term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point
This was all about leveraging banks against anything Obama and his office didn't agree with and included many things that aren't inherently criminal in nature including firearms sales, fireworks sales, ammunition sales, "Racist Materials" (Again leveraging banks and payment processors against those you don't agree with), tobacco sales, travel clubs, pornography and many others.

I can't act like my solutions are perfect but they are primarily aimed towards not requiring what the UK government is currently doing in order to achieve the same goals and it comes from leveraging existing and previously unharnessed phenomena (turning the occasional copyright takedown of monetized porn of trademarked characters into a weaponized front leading from Nintendo's example) and condensing it into a sweeping united front against pornography on social media, gaming platforms, as well as with the economy of porn as it pertains with furry content.

I don't want to pretend I know everything
In fact the ability to discuss things like this from a disgruntled furrys' perspective has been limited to virtual nonexistence. Antifurries and soyteens are retarded and don't care and would rather attempt to dox any furry near them than take any of this seriously but pretend that they actually care. The 'other' site has shown to be full of people who don't care and don't want people to know and acknowledge the situation. Normies don't fucking know how we act even when ShreddedNerd is namedropping notable EPI phenomenon in his videos and regular furries are in the comments seething from a normie talking negatively about furries and not taking the situation seriously meanwhile people are in denial that fetish videos on youtube exist and they're exactly as ShreddedNerd describes them. It very much feels like we are still dealing with the wounds caused by Lys and The Sharty in how we do things. This is very obvious with Lachlan being very open with how much the 'shlog has burned him and how that made him much more defensive with how he deals with people today. We are at such a shortage for people and have been burned by betrayal and backstabbing so many times to where we can't really move on unless we actively self-reflect. IDK how we'd be able to reform and go about things differently otherwise. What I always wanted with /anthro/ was to have a place of discussion of any realistic solution on how to deal with the gooner and EPI question, and now that we have it and are secure with our power, userbase and independence, it's time we should start taking advantage of that to put heads together in the wake of moves being made by powerful actors so we can discuss how to finally execute our collective vision and if this is what we want and if it will actually solve the problem at hand whilst not incurring any unnecessary damages in the possible outcome that it may be actually realized.

>TL;DR words
you must be 16 or older to post here
Applauding a UK law that was a trojan horse for suppressing speech and expression the state doesn't approve of and being corrected for not reading long posts due to my short attention span when it comes to reading text which is a problem I have for a very long time made me feel like a fucking idiot, and I have nobody to blame for this than myself.
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To be honest, I got hyped.
I miss when things happened.
>racing to get your mother and others to sign that petition so parliament reconsiders and rolls it back.
Gay asf.
Hopefully the world actually changes and something actually happens, Democracy is fucking stupid and the two party system is just the same party and nothing ever fucking happens.
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I'm seeing more of this shit in my recommended now, and people are freaking out like it's a bad thing that an adult only website is requiring you to have an ID to use it. That is a good thing.

There are issues with the system, people using faces of others and fraudulent ID, but those issues can be fixed, we could enforce the usage of passports instead, etc.
We're one step closer to actually doing something good, and they're trying to take it away from us over concerns about SNCA.
Quite frankly I'd be happy if there were databreaches and masturbators got their IDs leaked, and hopefully this even gets them fired from their jobs for using these degenerate websites. This would actually be very good, especially for schools, why should a porn addicted teacher be working at a school, etc.
I guess I should enjoy it while it lasts, it'll get repealed, things will go back to normal, kids continue to get EPI'd and genuinely nobody gives a fuck about child safety unless it gives them a political advantage or whatever, like some of you say, so legit nothing will happen, and the jewish sex industry will continue to grow because angry coom addicts want their pornography back.
>>14576
Keep posting 4channers raging geg
Wait a minute, wouldn't this new draconian law affect only gooners? What about people who don't goon and don't look at porn therefore, not ever submitting their ID for verification? Are they safe from the totalitarian consequences of that law?
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>>14608
Well actually, it's affecting websites that aren't inherently pornographic like Wikipedia. So this can be a problem for everyone who want to access websites that are affected but are not pornographic. But Wikipedia would rather just not allow people from the UK to visit the site. Also these people are using VPNs to get around this ID verification so the law is pretty much backfiring. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK parliament ended up doing a 180 and repealing that law lol
I think ID verification laws for internet porn is stupid. Just outright ban distribution of porn on the internet instead.
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>>14610
I think you are correct but you have to understand nothing ever happens, they won't do this and also now that I think about it, the fact this law isn't worldwide sucks.
Maybe we could make VPNs illegal but at that point, we become China.
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>>14612
This age verification law would do more harm than good. It could mean the end of anonimity on the internet which means someone named Ficklestein could report you to your employer or all your friends and family about what you said on the internet because you made a mean tweet at him. It could also result in a social credit system akin to China.
I'm afraid that this is going to get worse because the EU is implementing age verification like this giving websites a 12 month grace period and some states in the US has already implemented this as well. This is bad and it's a bad solution for preventing minors from viewing porn. I already mentioned the solution that is privacy friendly but it won't be popular because it makes porn less accessible as a whole which would make porn addicts very angry. Seems like the government doesn't mind this though as long as they get to invade people's privacy.
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>>14622
I'm kind of against privacy and think the internet needs less anonymity with the shit that people post ngl.
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>>14623
Counterpoint: Protecting anonymity is important because it keeps whistleblowers safe from repercussions of leaking terrible secrets from a company, government, or organization to the public. Diminishing anonimity means diminishing accountability of these governments and organizations resulting in them doing more terrible things.
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>>14624
What are we supposed to do against those people who literally share and look at cp on the clearnet and seemingly get away with it? If we had more tracking, the government could punish them even easier.
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>>14625
This is a tradeoff between the freedom of adults and the protection of children, our future, our choice. Do you want to live in a world where people stop caring about that entirely because thinking of the children is suppression by government, and thus the laws change, reflecting that, to the point where that isn't even illegal anymore, or do you want something that while draconian, could actually help us progress more and more into safety.

The unfortunate thing about this is that not everything is going to work and bad people and criminals will always find a way. We could be living in a world where VPNs are entirely illegal perhaps.
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>>14626
If you trade freedom for safety, you will get neither. Because if the government becomes totalitarian, it can go as far as to targetting, beating, torturing, and sometimes even killing their own citizens. Look at countries like China and North Korea. Would you feel "safe" if you live there?
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>>14625
It's awful that this is happening. I get it. I don't know a good solution to this at the moment. There probably is but I don't know what it might be. I guess hope that they slip up and get caught because they'll go to prison and be added to the sex offender registry if they do get caught.
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>>14627
I mean I kind of like my government, they make me feel safe personally. I have no reason to hate them, and if I'm doing something that upsets them, maybe it's best if I just comply? I'd only have an issue if my government actually just became an islamic state and started killing non muslims, etc.

>>14628
In recent years it feels like the public care less and less about pedophilia, it used to be a craze of bringing these fuckers to justice but now it's up to vigilantes to really get it done, and quite frankly stuff like that might aswell be on the same level of piracy, the people who are caught are usually suspected of other crimes. The only thing we don't have to worry about is the morality, which will always be wrong unless people try to brainwash us into thinking its okay.

I think the laws should be more severe on pedophiles, and the internet needs some sort of regulation, especially with AI and stuff.
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>>14629
>I mean I kind of like my government, they make me feel safe personally.
You government would put you in jail for hosting a website where Chuds promote nazism and for posting edgy content on this website and possibly others too once they found out about your website and the rest of your internet activity that isn't connected to your irl identity
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>>14630
First of all, what IRL activity?
geg

Second of all, I follow the rules when it comes to never gooning but idk i like being able to shitpost o algo
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>>14632
GEEEEEEEEG
GOONGOY JUST ADMITTED HE WOULD POST GOONER ART AS LONG AS ITS A “SHITPOST”
JUST SHUT IT DOWN ALREADY
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>>14633
That's not what I meant, I was referring to the laws but I felt like saying rules would sound more fitting.
Idk I like breaking the laws and following them at the same time tbh
>>14633
Also I would never do this and never have done this since the inception of the website.
My rules are different from yours, it's confusing okay I FUKCING HATE THE WORLD JUST BURN IT ALL DOWN JUST KILL EVERYONE FUCK IT LETS GO ANARCHY MODE 
>people doing thing i dont like
We need dictatorship. WE NEED COMMUNISM.
Look when it comes to nazism and all that stuff its not really something I want on my website because its not something I support or want to platform, I believe we can have peace without genocide, but ultiamtely I don't really care about the world and I support my government if they want the internet to be safer and have less of people promoting violent ideas, etc, but it's just me being scared, you can say whatever you want but it scares me, you know?
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>>14637
That's just my opinions though I'm not adding "nazism" is banned in the rules or something, it's just really hard to strike a middleground between all sorts of things like what your friends want and what the government wants and all this shit...
debater
None of these problems exsisted under the kaiser or tsar....
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