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The first 3 days are the hardest, but get past that and you can quit. Porn rewires your brain to make you a horny mess.
>inb4 it's not and i'm successful
ok cool leave this thread then, but don't lie to yourself.
For those quitting porn, fighting with cutting back or addiction, I wanted to tell you, from someone else also quitting and battling this addiction quite successfully- the first 3 days are the hardest.
I find that if I can avoid jacking off or looking at porn or even arousing fantasies, after 3 days, it's not even a battle any more, it's a walk in the park- and it gets easier.
You might think you need it because you're a horny guy and you have no gf, but the thing I have realised is that it's the porn making you like that.
You're not using porn because you're single, you're single because porn use prevents you from doing what you need to do to get a gf, from learning how people work, how to talk to women, from creating an environment a girl would want to be in with you, from occupying your time with actually useful activities and building a life you can be proud of.
With that, I will be leaving this hellsite to go and do some work now, keep the thread bumped up if you find any of this helpful, to help other lost anons as well.
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the damage done by porn is reversible
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apply this mindset to porn.
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I have a gf and I also love porn :)
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>>30513252 (OP)
>I will be leaving this hellsite

Exactly what it is. This place is absolutely diabolical. Demons are here, and not metaphorically. Actual real demons operate here. Leave and cleanse yourselves.
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>>30513278
> POOR
> STRESS
> GOON
> POOR
> STRESS
> Stop gooning
> WORK, WORK, WORK
> COLLECT MONEY
> WORK
> COLLECT MONEY
> PAY OFF DEBT
> BUY PORN
> GOON
> LOSE JOB
> GO INTO DEBT
> DIE HOMELESS IN LAOS

Which way anon?
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>>30513510
the concept of demons possessing or haunting you and actively working to cause your suffering and downfall, which you should be fighting back against, and a greater power that sees all you do, to whom you will be held you accountable, are really great concepts to help conquer addiction, self destructive habits and degenerate behavior.
you i often ask myself; am i becoming a man i could be proud of?
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b u m p
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>>30513252 (OP)
Yeah what you say is definitely true for a lot of us, although I think probably more than half of people who use porn and masturbation can still live fulfilling or successful lives (whether theyre still corrupted/damaged is debatable), for others it's more of an issue, whether that's cause we're more sensitive or predisposed to lose ourselves, more disconnected from objective reality, more introverted, idk, but a big step is to not compare yourself to those who can somehow cope with things you cant cope with.

I agree the first 3-5 days are hardest, as in the most difficult to cope with psychologically/emotionally, but as (presumably) you and I know, the days after that are hard in a different way - and that is when you start feeling good about yourself, you start to become more carefree, your vitality and libido increases a little, you start to feel a connection with girls irl, your appearance and in your face becomes more open and attractive, etc etc..

At that point it's like: ahh im chllin, im pretty happy, so when something on my screen or in my mind turns me on in that moment, whatever maybe i'll masturbate and maybe even look at some porn, I guess i probably shouldn't but think i'll just ride the wave of how i feel... hey that first time back i didn't even feel guilty for that, it just felt good, i think i'll do it again later/tomorrow, and again after that, and before you realise youre back drinking the poison again glug glug

So im kind of stuck in that phase personally, I can get through the darkness of the first few days because I know the lightness and life on the other side, but staying there enough is difficult.
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>>30513510
>Actual real demons operate here
and the thing so many anons refuse to understand is that /pol/ is God's war room.
it's why most people will never understand the harsh truths that are posted there.
we are the Holy justiciars that exist on this plane.
the evil ones fear us.
sincerely,
war
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>>30513794
>I think probably more than half of people who use porn and masturbation can still live fulfilling or successful lives
your definition of fulfilling and successful is not the same definition that God uses.
never forget that.
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>>30513252 (OP)
i love drugs
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>>30513258
>the damage done by porn is reversible
thank god, I'll quit later
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>>30513888
Thank you anon, yeah I think I intuitively feel that they're not so fulfilled or realised, which is why I suggest they may still be corrupted underneath despite ostensibly living successful happy lives. Not that I believe in God at this point in my life desu, but I'm agnostic (raised catholic) and I still believe a lot of the teachings have truth within them with guidance mostly worth following, and we should aim to transcend materialism, envy, hedonism etc.
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>>30513888
God isn't real.
Religion is a mental illness.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Yeah, yeah. I'll quit one day.
I just need to get through the day and everything will get better later.
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>>30514026
I'm somehow too ployed and miserable to quit my self destructive behaviors.
One day I'll be able to fix myself.
One day I'll be happy and not just tired.
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>>30514041
employed*
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>>30513252 (OP)
nice words... Please explain to us why you have to fight for this problem?
becouse whom is harmed by someone having fun by themself?
assuming the the production is legal is no one's business to shame the customer.
Else we have to realy create the funpolice for so many things.
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you need to be a top performer so that jews could bomb gaza, lebanon and iran, anon. stay sharp
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>>30513991
What about gods from other planets?
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>>30513991
religion is real, your foundation of what it actually has been corrupted, hence the lense you are viewing it as is from a cracked foundation
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>>30514782
NTA, religion are mental prison. But good news you are the prison, the lock and the key.
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>>30514782
"Lens", not "lense" you fucking moron. Learn English.
All religion is mental illness.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Counterpoint - studies have shown that ejaculating 21 times a month reduces your risk of prostate cancer by 30%.
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>>30513991
>mental illness of atheists at all time high
ok
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>>30514227
>becouse whom is harmed by someone having fun by themself?
nice spelling. the answer is: the person themselves. see above videos.
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>>30515189
that is how often you should be having sex with your wife.
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>>30515042
did you let yourself out? how is it out there? you didn't take any of those oppressive religious morals or ethics with you, did you?
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>>30513952
so after quitting porn for a while i find most of it, including that video, disgusting, and seeing the utter ruination of women that this lifestyle causes, stuff like that doesn't arouse me any more, i don't find it attractive, i lament that another good woman has been put through the meat grinder and defiled, never to be loved and never to be a good mother, and for what? one quick thrill and a paycheque that didn't even cover rent for one week?
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>>30515189
This thread is about porn not about ejaculating, and just in case you didn't know, you can masterbate without looking at porn.
Also, are there any studies on ejaculating 70 times a month? This should reduce the risk of prostate cancer by 100%, if my calculation is correct.
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>>30513258
This is an important topic, but I'd honestly be far more worried about the damage an MRI could do to the brain than a daily goon session.
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>>30515406
MRIs have no impact on the brain. Its a well understood diagnostic. The fuck you on?
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>>30513991
You are right. I honestly can’t wrap my head around the fact that nowadays still believe in god. It’s so obvious, because you have to choose to believe. Not learn, acknowledge, understand, discern, comprehend, see or experience. Believe!!!

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you XD

The greatest bullish story ever told: Holy Shit
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I find the first 3 days easy, it’s keeping it going thats difficult. I just relapsed after 22 days today. Most I’ve gone in 20 years is 2 months. If anyone was as bad as me and has any advice I greatly appreciate it,
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>>30515218
>mental illness of atheists at all time high
Show your work; citation needed.
You believe in invisible forces that talk to you; that's the definition of mental illness, and proof.
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>>30513252 (OP)
>porn is a drug, corrupting your mind, blocking your happiness and ruining your whole life.
Impressive that everything in that sentence is wrong.

Porn litterally objectively definitionally isn't a drug and it's retarded to say that it is a drug. Also drugs aren't bad things. They save millions of lives every year, if not every day.
Porn can not "corrupt" more than life already has.
Porn has added significantly to my happiness and in no way blocks other forms of happiness that are unrelated to porn. My tea I am sipping now is just as tasty. I feel just a much feeling of accomplishment when I complete a task. I feel just as much joy in my heart when I help a person in need.
The only impact porn has is it makes my alone time/masturbation far more stimulating and enjoyable.
And lastly porn has ruined no aspect of my life. I am a fully productive member of society, maintain hobbies, have regular interactions with family and friends, and overall my life is pretty dang good.

Your fear and shame tactics to control strangers sexuality honestly disgust me.
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>>30515689
>Your fear and shame tactics to control strangers sexuality honestly disgust me.
Christcucks fear their own urges (and are ashamed of their entire existence), and try to force that fear and shame on others.
Their dumb asses can't understand that their self-imposed "morality" is of no interest or use to rational humans, but they're too pussy to lead an actual crusade.
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>>30515645
that better than a lot of people, but anyway i guess here is not the place to ask that question.. but as youve been trying for a long time I suggest u try something different, to counter whatever might be causing u to relapse. Try doing some strength training for endorphins (or cardio if u prefer, but strength training feels more like busting), try doing somethings where u meet more girls, try therapy if u feel emptiness without porn, try learning something new that really interests u and excites u. Just some ideas, your streak is better than mine tho so I'm not saying to u from authority gl

Also tfw the shape is on first slide of the captcha for all 3 is kino
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>>30515717
Thanks for the tips, I have a girlfriend so that helps, and I exercise 3 times a week, I think I may have to try therapy. And dont worry your streak will be better than mine eventually. It took me a long time to get to the point where I could go more than a week even.
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Might be worth hanging out in this thread.
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What if im too young to get married can't get a gf due to the beliefs in my country
I got addicted 5 years ago and can't stop and i can't even legally watch porn yet
How do i cope with it im tired of this shit for real
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>>30513252 (OP)
even in my 30s, if I don't coom for a day, I relapse the next day by fapping three times back to back. I would lose my mind if I did no fap for 4days. Basically I can come after every meal. I eat once a day sometimes to manage this. My body processes calories and then it must come. I don't know what to d about it.
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After looking at one or two other threads on this board, I'm starting to wonder if my predilection for smut began with watching movies as a kid. Heaps of old movies had nudity and sex in them, and I remember as a kid being titillated every time I saw it, and subsequently wanting to see more. The internet was certainly worse for a variety of reasons, but I just wonder if the seed was planted before I even saw online porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfwJeHtrWNI [Embed]
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>>30515222
>the person themselves is harmed
This can be used to justify so many things.
The science to justify this is... dubious and full of moralizing.
are we shure you are not just mad about people having fun without you or your worldview in mind?
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>>30515734
Thankyou, yes it's like a learning process, when I feel I'm making progress it feels good, even if it's not quantitative yet. If you wanna try a kind of less traditional/clinical therapy I really like IFS, which kind of differs from the idea of fixing your behaviours, instead teaches to unburden your inner 'parts' which lessens the need for the behaviour as a coping mechanism and helps with self acceptance. I only suggest that because I've tried other therapies that made things worse, and also it might help to avoid trying harder to abstain as u have been trying to fix the behaviour already :)
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>>30515754
u don't need to have sex to give up flapping or porn like you'll have wet dreams if your body rly needs the release. sorry that it started young for u but it's the same for a lot of people in this era, good luck tho u got this, the fact u know it's a problem for you means u have taken a step already, i didn't until i was an adult

>>30515778
maybe ur full tummy puts pressure on your prostate or something idk lol, i guess you gotta be willing to try lose your mind a lil bit to progress
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>>30513991
Atheism is a religion. You hold a firm set of beliefs that you live your life by, with 0 proof those beliefs are true. You hold them based purely on faith, faith that God doesn't exist. Atheism is a religion.
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I think I developed a trigger, associating smoking (relaxing, good) with gooning. I smoke hand-rolled cigs (I detest industrial shit like marlboros). I start a vid, take some puffs, get hard, then put it down (then I light it up again later to repeat), but I don't cum. But I feel guilt and sadness watching gorgeous girls bc no gf. I think I'll have to stop smoking.
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>>30515230
Thanks to /x/ I've reach enlightenment. In heaven you only works in love for love.

>>30515247
Do you know why Satanist are into immoral sex? Because there is nothing interesting in heaven beside infinite love. On earth you have many many pleasure and at the end you are alowed to reincarnate.

By the way there is no eternal hell, before entering heaven you are purified and all of your sins are cleansed, it's that cleansing that is called : eternal hell, but it's a simply garbage collector function for your sins not for your soul.
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>>30513265
>porn empire guy telling others to not look at porn
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>>30513252 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with being a horny mess. Some people have a high libido and finding release in masturbating calms them down. In cases such as those, they were already a horny mess and porn is a salvation.

Porn addiction is not real. The underlying cause of what looks like porn addiction is always something else manifesting as an attachment to pornography. In those cases, quitting porn does not solve the problem, it simply shifts the problem to somewhere else. Or people relapse and feel unnecessary shame when porn is not the cause but one of many symptoms.

Human beings are one of the only species on this planet that can masturbate and does so simply for recreational pleasure. Most animals only engage in sexuality activity strictly for breeding purposes, but mankind creates their own solo sexual activity simply because it's enjoyable and relaxing. That makes us better than the animals.

Take your pants off, rub one out, and shut the fuck up.
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>>30513252 (OP)
society has abandoned me and now youre telling me to let go of the only thing keeping me attached to society?
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>>30516459
I know the man watch homosexual porn then tell us not to watch it, ah! Perfect puppet for central masonry.
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>>30513252 (OP)
OP is probably a troll post, but just for the record it is entirely possible to not be addicted to porn while also not swearing off of it entirely. For most men, it is an occasional thing that is not damaging or destructive to our lives in the slightest. You are projecting. Well, it's a combination of projection and sour grapes.

tl;dr just because you can't handle porn without turning into a horny mess doesn't mean everyone else is as weak-willed as you are
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>>30513252 (OP)
>>inb4 it's not and i'm successful
>ok cool leave this thread then, but don't lie to yourself.
Lie about what?
>leave the thread if facts contradict my narrative

I used to avoid porn completely, nothing changed. Even when i got into more heavier usage i took a few weeks break, nothing changed. Porn lets everyone have a free and easily accessible outlet and intensifies the sexual experience. Getting rid of that would be of no benefit.
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>>30516940
but I must save people from the generational boogeymen that my parents told me were definitely real :(
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>>30513252 (OP)
The reality is that women ruin a man's life, not porn.
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>>30513252 (OP)
For me the struggle begins after 3 days. I get horny pretty easily and really have the urge to get off.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Lmao at you being addicted to porn.
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>>30516989
Weak men put women on a pedestal and make women their god and get ruined for it. Adam's sin was listening and following Eve when she was wrong.

Satan is the modern women's daddy.
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>>30517014
Do not despair, do not make it a big deal if you fail, just try again and again.
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>>30515778
How do you have time to beat off three times a day? Just go for a walk outside if you feel the urge.
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>>30513252 (OP)
I want to quit this habit, it is really affecting all areas of my life, I have a really bad habit of saving pics and gifs of beautiful womens, this eats up a lot of my time and often leads to me jerking off. I want to quit, but I can't. My mind is like why do hard stuff when this feels so good
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>>30513794
>but staying there enough is difficult.
when you leave you're dopamine source you need to find something else to attach to, like a girl or a project, or you'll just be left in the boring nowhere thinking, man why did i leave? there was actual enjoyment beating my meat all day.
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>>30515948
nah, atheists doesn't want or require some kind of relationship with a divine being and is therefore not a religion
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>>30513991
tips*
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>>30515189
there's a clear way to ensure you never get prostate cancer, it's called fiber, ginger, and not overeating.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Can't stand these poser.

Breathing is a drug Anon, stop it right now.
Fucking brain dead NPC.
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>>30513258
reeeally depends on the time you spent gooning, if you started aggressively in the years your brain was still developing perhaps you aren't getting it back.

Biological interactions happen when people view porn, causing men to experience erections and women to experience dilated genitals and lubrication from the vaginal walls (NHS, 2016; NHS, 2016). However, psychological changes also occur. fMRIs revealed that when men watch porn, elevated activity in the ventral striatum can be observed where the brains reward-system releases dopamine, the neurotransmitter responsible for pleasure (Hess, 2017; Simpson, 2017). The amygdala (the brain portion responsible emotional behaviour and motivation), also activates when viewing porn (Gola et al., 2015), both of which activates the brains reward-pathway which influences conditioning towards desiring a certain stimulus again - a process which can lead to pornography addictions (Hess, 2017). Furthermore, those who view greater amounts of porn also have lesser volumes of grey matter (The Guardian, 2014). Whilst this finding does not suggest causation, it is important to note that the average age of males who start viewing pornography for the first time is 10 years old – an age where critical brain-development is still in the process (Hess, 2017). Therefore structural brain differences/damage could reflect consequences of pornographic use.

https://www.theroompsy.com/psychology-sex-identities-society/The%20Problem%20With%20Porn:%20Heteronormativity%20&%20Gender-roles

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

>>30515406
> I'd honestly be far more worried about the damage an MRI could do to the brain than a daily goon session
an MRI vs a decade of daily gooning....yeah, the damage is done already.....
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>>30515689
>>30515701
>wall of reddit double spaced "objective" bs
KEK at the mental gymnastics to justify being a coombrain, just be one without resorting to subjective bullshit.
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>>30515583
But If you would actually read the Bible, you would know what it actually says about the difference about people trying to quit sin and actual sinners who don't care about God's opinion. We are all saved by Jesus Christ when he sacrificed himself on the cross. So seeing you talk like that means you haven't even read a single letter in the Bible and don't even know what you are talking about. You probably even had al kinds of "lucky" moments while it was God who granted you those things.
yeah... Go ahead and think it's all fantasy and do whatever you want whenever you want, we'll all see it at the end times who is right
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>>30515247
no good woman goes into porn
they're all degenerate whores to begin with, nothing of value has been lost.
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>>30515689
you have never felt the loving embrace of a woman and it shows anon.
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>>30518076
many women get into porn and become hypersexual because they got molested or diddled as kids, also if they lacked a strong father figure in their life. the porn industry exploits mentally unwell people and make them worse hence why so many porn-women have addictions to cope and end up killing themselves.
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>>30515701
Shame is good to an extent. Without it society falls apart, too much of it or too little like today and everything falls apart.

Shame is basically a way to self-police yourself and others in becoming better.

You claim rationality while living like a debased animal a slave to your urges and vice. Repent.
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>>30518132
no, its because women can never take accountability for their own actions.
They know the cost of the porn industry and they willingly go into it because its easy money and they were already fucking dudes to get what they wanted prior to porn.

Alcoholics, drug addicts, and other degenerate wastes of life never wake up an addict one day, they all cause their own downfall.
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>>30518146
You didn't read my post or understand the gravity of sexual assault and molestation.
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I have a 8yo younger beautiful girlfriend(31yo, 24yo)
I had a lot of a tinder expirience at the past (mff etc)
I have good work(top1% salary in my country)
I have friends

And I still like porn

What is wrong with me so? Or maybe porn is not a problem, but you try to put the blame on it?
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>>30518151
waaaaahh my uncle touched me and now i NEED to fuck random people for money!!!!!!!!

kill yourself nigger
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>>30518176
You are lying and indian.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Welcome back, OP.

I see you're still fixating on trying to police normal young men from fapping to good ol fat titties instead of focusing on the actual darkness on this board that takes the form of all of the rekt and gore threads that show up every week.
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>>30514513
which ones, never heard of them
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>>30515042
Nice try satan.
>>30515189
most people get prostate cancer but they die with it, not because of it.
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>>30518184
Take ur meds.
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>>30518448
>most people
I didn't think women could get that, but you learn something new on the internet every day
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>>30518618
omg dont be soo transphoic
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>>30513252 (OP)
>>30517976
crazy how pushed and casual this was in the 90s-2010s. i fapped daily for like 12 years to big booties getting pounded and now i cant get hard to anything else. the urge to watch porn and find all the best booties isnt any weaker than it was 12 years ago either. idk what to do. tried quitting like 20 times, never made it past a month but recently i cant even get to a week. what a dehumanizing problem
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>>30517269
Have you tried deleting that folder. Just click the folder and push down the del button.
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>>30513252 (OP)
KEK! You are trying to save what is mostly shitskin/troon gooners that love nigger dick.
You are wasting your time, there is nothing here to save, there no soul/humanity behind their demonic black eyes.
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nofap semen retention and other masturbation related bullshit is a jewish psyop to trick people into having worse OCD/schizophrenia symptoms

porn isnt why anyone is retarded, jacking off literally is nothing, its on you if youre addicted or are a completely degenerate gooner

they want you to feel like youre bad for being normal and not an orthodox insane cultist
>>30518994
you always had ED
>>30519217
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>>30513258
>the damage done by porn is reversible

it's really not, it's been years since i got hard just looking at a pussy, or got aroused by one, my mind has been completely dominated by black cock and trannies. porn has made me irreversibly gay. pussy just disgusts me now.
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>>30518195
i think this is way worse. rekt and gore is bad, but this is a drug that is afflicting more people.
you think something needs to be done? i don't see your anti rekt thread.
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>>30517719
if you fall for that false equivalency you are the braindead one.
also if you have no problems why do you sound so butthurt?
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>>30517158
thankyou anon, you're doing god's work.
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>>30519595
>”it’s really not”
>provides anecdotal evidence while bragging about being weak
You’re a jeet aren’t you
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>>30519671
cope. you're never quitting. porn has changed you forever.
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>>30513252 (OP)
honestly I feel 3 days is the easiest, once I get to the 2 week mark is when I end up coming back - how do I stop?
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>>30517269
this thread is for you, fuck all those other morons saying it's normal, YOU KNOW IT IS NOT. YOU KNOW IT IS BAD FOR YOU. even if they are not lying and can handle it, guess what? everyone is different.
You need to catch yourself and stop yourself, it will be so hard but this sadness, this misery, this will fuel you, get sick of it, get frustrated, hate it. use that as fuel, to remind you every time you do this, no, stop, go splash your face with cold water, go work out, go for a walk, get working on a project, carpentry, metal work, sewing, fixing cars, starts something.
It is absolutely true that the devil makes work for idle hands.
Personally, i put all my porn on a usb, just went to find it now and can't even find it. kinda sad because i wanted to save just one picture of one beautiful woman. it's somehow easier to quit if you have it like, there, so you could access it if you want, but it's disconnected from your main pc or phone. just put it elsewhere so there's like 3 steps of process to access it.
Then, get yourself occupied with something else. and your life will flourish like a neglected garden finally being watered.
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>>30515689
>Also drugs aren't bad things. They save millions of lives every year, if not every day.
this gaslighting is another level.
>Porn can not "corrupt" more than life already has.
yes it can.
>Porn has added significantly to my happiness and in no way blocks other forms of happiness that are unrelated to porn.
it wastes your time in a futile endeavor.
>Your fear and shame tactics to control strangers sexuality honestly disgust me.
>sexuality
you aren't having sex when you masturbate to porn.
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>>30515701
>rational humans
>immediate ad-hominem
i don't fear my own urges in the same way i don't fear heroin or weed, but i see them destroy lives too and suggest that maybe, you shouldn't take them. same with porn.
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>>30519746
>this gaslighting is another level.
Learn what words mean.
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>>30519791
>drug /drŭg/
>noun

>1. A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
>2. Such a substance as recognized or defined by the US Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
>3. A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.
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>>30519688
>>30517014
>>30515645
it's tough, it is really tough but the longer you resist, the easier it gets, especially if you do not look at porn and occupy yourself elsewhere.
i see a lot of posts all saying "it's fine" but think of all the time that goes down the drain, you could have learned to play an instrument or started a club or done something worthwhile. the next mozart is gooning instead of writing the most beautiful symphony mankind has ever heard.
it's fucking tragic and even if you think you are fine, it's sapping your limited lifetime.
>>30515734
and if you have a gf and still need porn, she is not doing enough for you. learn to seduce her properly, highly recommend hoe_math and zoomology, for the more relationship/dating stuff: bobby rio and benjamin seda. don't bother buying their courses unless you want to get really serious, their free stuff is enough.
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>>30513988
Get out of my fucking head
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>>30517269
I got a girlfriend, house, family etc

And then she started withholding her pussy

Makes me just want to go back to masturbating to porn 5x a day
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>>30513278
This is so fucking kino ngl
>pure cinema
>omegeabased viet fag
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>>30513367
Kek
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>>30513252 (OP)
>porn prevents me from doing what I need to do to get a gf
Will quitting porn suddenly make me 6 foot 5? Fuck off with this shit, women's standards are so astronomically I would never reach them even if I tried since I can't magically become 6 foot 5.
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>>30513252 (OP)
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>>30513258
Debatable, some people are so ego driven selfhelp is a sin. Take for examble af braindead zoomer that have been raised by the internet and mass manipulation who have been watching vines since he was a kid and drooling infront of facebook waiting for people personas to validate his fake online life what important updates. This little faggot have zero fucking attention span orself awereness. Now imagine this little faggot developed a staking fetish and gets enabled by his peers. Now he runs into someone that knows he's being stalked and gets addicted by him. IE. Me. So I start to watch genos samuel's Chris Chan doc fully aware this little faggot is watching every fucking thing on my screen. Then we peruse 4chan's gif board and slowly amping up the retardation. Before you know the little faggot have assembled the avungers and have made a little stalking circus. Now little faggot is in control and owns a human. He gets fixated by his victim and starts to envy him. This leads to jealousy which leads to envy which develops into stalker love. Little faggot is warching his victim jerk of to petite little teenage girls everyday, sometimes up to 6 times a day for years. Now little faggot want to rape his victim so he can feel powerful, and his circlejerk insane family thinks that's a swell idea. He is justifying this by telling himself and everyone hes pedo hunting while being one himself. So he gets his wish and with the help of his gang they rape me in my sleep, multiple times. Little faggot is now part of the rape club. This is his own doing but was instigated by his victims porn habits. His brain is cooked for life. He's now a full on pholanthropist with a scat fetish and all of his friends and the whole country of Denmark is calling him a pedophile. What are his chances of recovery assuming he wants it.
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>>30519624
You are misguided because you like to harvest (you)s at best and at worst you're actually deluded into thinking anyone's going to stop masturbating because of this thread. The only anons posting in this thread are here because they bit the bait or enjoy the back and forth with you.

Typically it requires a near religious reason for most young men to truly stop (like a monk's vow of celibacy), or it takes some kind of hormone treatment. The fundamental argument that it'll do something like >>30513278 only makes sense if the masturbator is so addicted to porn he literally can't function to perform important tasks in his life or fit into society. These are somewhat rare cases and usually also indicates some other mental challenges.
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>>30513252 (OP)
If looking at this shit is enough to ruin your life, your real problem is self-control. Or maybe your brain is just dogshit to begin with. No smart person has ever struggled with porn addiction.
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It takes far too much time and effort to get the same thrill from everyday life as you do from porn, without any immediate reward. It’s especially hard when there’s no one there to support you (in real life, text messages online don’t count). If a saint were to fall from the sky and tell me she’d love and support me throughout my journey of recovery and beyond, I’d quit right away. But that’s not going to happen - you already have to be a perfect person to attract anyone; no one’s going to pull you out of the hole.
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>>30520889
Truth. The people attacking porn wants to deprive you of all pleasure in life and make you into a slave that never gets any reward instead of fixing the flaws in society that creates a demand for porn. Can't see that as anything but evil.
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>>30515754
Are you also retarded or something? You can wank off. Just don't watch porn. Or better find something else to do with your spare time. Start going to gym and on hikes. Behaving like a horny animal is a choice(if you are human ofc)
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>>30515778
you need to do a simple meditation every day, where you mentally scan your body and also the one that shifts your attention to different things. It will let you notice your thought processes as if they are of another person. You will be able to shut down thoughts you don't want to have
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>>30517269
you need to change your way of life. The environment quite often determines our being and your current energy level is very low. Put yourself in a new environment where there's none of this degeneracy. Change yourself through the force of circumstances that won't let you fail back. You need successful people to look up to and to follow their steps, maybe a mentor. When you have changed, these current problems will look so tiny
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i did nofap for three months
i was ultra depressed but i was more alive
like time past slower and felt every moment

stopped nofap after i was dumped by a girl i dted for like a month
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>>30521525
the worst part is porn, if you can avoid that you're golden
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>>30521547
i like coming on here and watching the gifs but its like being a heroin addict and saying you are only gonna do so much
i hate it, i wished i never knew of 4chan or of simpcity
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Gentlemen. This tread is very impvrtant. Bump.
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>>30517269
You can do it. Set your sights on something bigger than porn. What are your dreams? What do you *really* want to do with your life if you could do anything regardless of the stipulations placed before you? Would you do hard drugs just because they feel good? Obviously not. But since the problem caused from porn is hard to see it can be difficult at first to notice the negatives. What affects your mind affects your body. "You have already solved 95% of the problem by noticing the problem..." and the cause it has had on your Life. You have one Life to live. What do you want to do with it? You don't need to answer these questions now but I advise you to really think deeply about this while trying not to overcomplicate things.
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>>30515042
We live within the reality of infinity. Religion helps you escape the box that you or others have put you within. Whatever religion or belief system you have (-so as long as it is not destructive) can and will help you escape that prision.
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>>30513252 (OP)
thanks buddy
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>>30513991
no the kike god is totally real and the only god. Also he fucked up making your penis so we have to give it a snip.
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>The first 3 days are the hardest

Imagine finding it hard to go without porn or wanking for 3 days, let alone 2 weeks, a month.

Lol, lmao even
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>>30519595
You're welcome!
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>>30519746
>it wastes your time in a futile endeavor
Yeah, 'cause modern man is really known for their laudable and lofty pursuits.
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>>30513885
>/pol/ is God's war room

Imagine being this out of touch and narcissistic. Do you believe in Q drops too? Typical Anglo/Amerifat
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>>30519595
It is just drop porn stop being a faggot, it is a choice. Also probably a larp.
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>>30519677
Projection, your honor.
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>Christfags are so convicted by the holy spirit believing in the truth of the gospel yet they're willing to risk eternal damnation for a moment of fleeting pleasure

Lmao xD

https://youtu.be/ytyyiCXHY_g [Embed]
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>>30519172
I thought of doing it multiple times, but my attachment to it stops me everytime.

>>30519730
>>30521521
>>30521648
Thank you anons, these words mean a lot. See the problem with me is not porn, infact I don't even watch porn often, it's the celebs and I mainly come here to save celebrity gifs, not that it makes it any better, I use it as an escape but now I think it's time to stop. I have only done nofap for 1 month but found no real benefits so I reverted back. But starting from right now I'll go on a 6 month nofap, even if it doesn't give me any benefit atleast it will give me a sense of self control.

I'll try to be better, thanks.
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>>30520889
>>30521320
Yeah you guys are fucked because you've gone too far down the porn and degeneracy rabbit hole. Should have just done sports and stayed fit and happy, good job etc. when I gave up porn In my 20s it paved the way for me to get real pussy
Feels good man
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>>30513952
>webm
source on her?
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I'm relapsing a lot because my girlfriend isn't fucking me as much as she used to

I feel terrible but don't know what to do. The more Horny I get the more pissed off I get
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>>30513252 (OP)
>OP got corrupted by BNWO and Sissycuck threads
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>porn is free and always available
>foids cost hundreds of dollars just for entry fees and will flee the millisecond someone with a deeper pocket shows up
hmm very difficult choice indeed
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FUN FACT:
the majority of divorces are initiated by females!
lesbian marriages have the highest incidence of divorce, while gay marriages have the lowest!
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lesbian relationships also have the highest prevalence of domestic violence!
women are evil and porn is freedom
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stop letting other men tell you what to do with your penis
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you think curing your "porn addiction" will make your life instantly better. there's no such thing as a magical one-size-fits-all cure to all your woes. that's snake oil shit. arriving at the conclusion that modern women are not worth pursuing certainly helps keep your bank account and your mental wellbeing a lot safer though
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anyway done with my sandwich now, continue your fruity little thread
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>>30522528
correction, only the women you are able to court are not worth pursuing, sounds like projection pal.
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>>30522508
>>30522504
>>30522501
you have the mind of a jewish incel
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What if my problem is really embarrassing. I'm just really obsessed with pornstars. There are so many of them I'm addicted to and I actually get hornier when they're clothed in a sexy outfit. I think about them all the time. I want to be free, but my triggers are so intense and easy. I don't know how to escape this weakness.
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>>30521320
You are already a slave to vice and you are blind.
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>>30522404
I hope she leaves you, porn cuck
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>>30520140
have a little chitty chat about it like a gay man, or hit the gym every time she declines the sex
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>>30522722
Unplug your internet. Leave the house. Done.
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>>30522742
Hell I try to keep myself as busy and active as possible, but I can't do it all the time. The second I'm alone I'm thinking about my favorite pornstars in a tight dress
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>>30513252 (OP)
Thanks anon. I'm so glad this thread landed on top. Just what I needed.

Does anyone have the "the missile" meme webm? The sick cut with music and all kinds of different missile firings and inspriing music int he background.
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>>30518446
Plenty of them, they are everywhere, but in high vibrations.
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>>30522392
I do play sports actually, i exercise, work, try to stay in shape and got a somewhat active social life despite not being that extroverted.

>>30522727
A slave to vice because i occasionally watch porn and get joy from it? Not doing that and heavily reducing sexual activity would be unhealthy. As for actual vices, i avoid them. Very little sugar, no sweets/soda, rarely get fast or any fat food and no alcohol/tobacco.
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>>30522735
I don't even watch porn

I jerk off thinking of her lmao
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>>30522737
Good idea anon. Thank you, I needed that. A dose of reality.
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>>30520816
>if mainlining free heroin is enough to ruin your life, your real problem is self control
Holy shit, you must be legally retarded. This is the most addict-brained shit I’ve ever heard. Get help
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>>30522959
You are still ruining your life with a surrogate corrosive activity

>Stop smoking

>I only smoke three times a day! It gives me joy!
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>>30522855
name them
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>>30522969
wtf man ur in a anti porn thread, my mistake I take it back
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>>30522972
We are all gonna make it bro.
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>>30522721
>rejection of modern feminism and its consequences makes you a jew
?
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>>30513510
>>30513252 (OP)
Totally agree. I dont believe all of the people on this board are human.

Thank you op for making this thread its what i and everyone with a common sense needs.
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>>30513260
"it's not nice for the women" opinion immediately invalidated
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>>30515247
have you ever met an actual women? They're all trash. Simping hard putting them on a pedestal, lol "another good woman"
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>>30522976
Yeah pal you could just choose not to do heroin also, nobody's making you
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>>30522508
The incel to trans pipeline is real
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>>30523137
You promote trannies you fucking kike
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i quit porn for 8 months, then fall back again, but now i do it at much 2 times per month
i feel a lot better, and would anyone advice to do so, quitting porn is just the first step, after that is up to you what to do
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>>30524096
jews turned their back on trannies after trannies started openly supporting palestine you retarded faggot. why do you think so many countries are suddenly reversing course on them? why do you think zion don built his whole campaign on eliminating them?
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>>30517269
I have gone more than thirty days without fapping several times but have always ended up relapsing back into born.
The best strategy for me was spending as little time in my room as possible, but that is more challenging now that I have graduated uni and am living with my dad while having a shitty retail job.
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>>30516016
You're the opposite of enlightened.
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>>30522980
You ruin your life by letting REAL vice take over your life. Vice i mentioned in the post which i presume is part of your life. Not by the occasional healthy sexual relief. If you think it's that bad you should leave the board ASAP considering its pretty much exclusively a porn board.
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>>30524950
Based uncle J
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>>30513252 (OP)
Jerking off is a good way to relieve stress after or before work.
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>>30525060
nigga why fry ur dopamine before work, prolactin spike maxxing
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>>30521977
see, you're already fighting against truth.
you felt compelled to reply to a post you could have ignored if you disagree with it, but the compulsion you felt is the evil overtaking you due to your spiritual weakness caused by a lack of faith.
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>>30523137
porn is feminism, idiot.
>>30524836
>its pretty much exclusively a porn board
/gig/ is a ylyl board, faggot.
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>>30525060
>Jerking off is a good way to relieve stress
this old lie again?
>>30522404
>The more Horny I get the more pissed off I get
this is how it's supposed to be.
after awhile you reach the stage of righteous indignation where you're only mad about injustice in the world and you run for office and outlaw things that need to be erased.
>>30522535
>posts penis
>calls other things fruity
you're really just an idiot, anon.
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>>30525360
>and outlaw things that need to be erased.
Further proof that suppressing your desires for no reason causes madness. The world doesn't need more bootlickers who wants to control people.
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>>30525461
Coomers cannot even control themselves, sit down.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Many people blame porn for their own immaturity, it's like food, it's good, but some people will eat it until they get sick, or alcohol, any drug, sex or anything else.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Many people blame porn for their own immaturity, it's like food, it's good, but some people will eat it until they get sick, or alcohol any drug, sex or anything else.
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>>30525341
>the thing modern feminisms are trying to ban from every corner of society is actually what they're trying to shill
?????
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i was a disgusting depressed loser that had no motivation before porn anyways. no one wanted me before and i'm so mentally weak i'll sink into the abyss to give them what they want from me. i gave up because i'm weak and was never good at anything. i was a bad friend and wasted everyone's time that was nice to me.
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>>30519746
>it wastes your time in a futile endeavor.
Some men just ARE NOT going to get satisfying women. That's just the way it is. In any situation 80% of the women want 20% of the men. Women have chosen to remain single their entire lives rather than settle for a man they can get. This is all because of progress. Women can choose their destinies now. Unfortunately, that just leaves a lot of men out of the picture. Prostitution is illegal. Porn is the next best substitute good.
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>>30517076
this ugly nig is literally secret gay. he can't lecture on healthy sexual lives.
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>>30513252 (OP)

The best tool that made me stop mastirbating every fucking day (thus stop consuming pron) was a fleshlight

Now I don't want to touch my dick to fap. It feels disgusting all over the body when I start stroking the penis. I feel like I have to go get a shower right after

I dont get that when I hump a flesh light

I've significantly cut down on porn consumption, downloads and discovery

It also helps that most porn now features piss play, that shit is disgusting
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>>30513252 (OP)
If God didn't want me to goon, then how come angels like Lucy Li were sent down from heaven to create porn for me?
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>>30513252 (OP)
>horny guy
have gf,

true story. was in hospital and rehab for 6-7 months. got back home, few weeks later, we get in the mood, and i have the strength, so gf, gives me a handy. the cum was brown. few days later. must have been dead swimmers. so just fyi. its always good to clean the pipes once in a while.
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>>30513252 (OP)
>horny guy
have gf,

true story. was in hospital and rehab for 6-7 months. got back home, few weeks later, we get in the mood, and i have the strength, so gf, gives me a handy. the cum was brown. few days later. must have been dead swimmers. so just fyi. its always good to clean the pipes once in a while.
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>>30513252 (OP)
>The first 3 days are the hardest
the easiest, lol. it gets hard after 3 days
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>>30513885
Anyone who actually believes what you said is severely out of touch with reality. You're disconnected from the truth, anon. Pray that God shows you the light and pulls you out the darkness you can't see. /gif/ is Ishtar, /pol/ is Baal and both are abominations.
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>>30525611
>everyone who disagrees with me is a coomer
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>>30515948
>Actually, the opposite of the thing is actually the same as the thing.
Okay retard.
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>>30524192
>meanwhile in the real world

Sodom is their main selling point
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>>30525338
oh no, this post would be really unnerving if I was a retarded fat American evangelical. explain why the 80% of the world that doesn't speak English (most of whom are religious) let alone give a damn about a smut infested anime forum doesn't have access to the "God's war room"
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>>30525341
>porn is feminism

Stacy Andrea Dworkin would have a word with you
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Fapping even without porn makes you slow, stupid, weak and scared

I don't want to be a stupid scared slave. I want to be like Dragonball Z
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seeing a thread about this I assumed it would get spammed with porn and i of course it was. people into that kind of thing as well as all leftists are like that. no impulse control, husks without souls, lovers of evil. its not an interesting quirk it's pitiful. there is no meaning to their lives they simply exist to occupy space. I don't waste my time talking to anyone that's remotely leftist because they don't live in reality. They are stuck on this temporal plane unable to see any spiritual reality and are truly blind to existence. they're kind of like animals. jews get it right when they say "cattle" because most people really are just cattle. unfortunately I have enough sense to know that includes me as well. OP anon is right though porn is a sickening drug I struggled with as well. I still enjoy gore that's why I'm here which is sick in its own right so clearly there is more impovements I need to make. leftist husks will never makes these changes though
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OP where is the porn molecule
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There is no such thing as "pornography addiction". Porn is sexual liberation for men, because it takes some power away from women.
Porn is just too lax to be classified as a potential addictive substance. For example, there is no real withdrawal effect or emotional depression that follows consumption and that can only be overcome through further consumption.
"Pornography addiction" is not included in the recently revised Diagnostic and Statistical Manual because of a lack of scientific data. Fewer than two in every five research articles (37 percent) about high frequency sexual behavior describe it as being an addiction. And only 27 percent (13 of 49) of articles on the subject contained actual data, while only one related psychophysiological study appeared in 2013. The research found very little evidence - if any at all - to support some of the purported negative side effects of porn "addiction". There was no sign that use of pornography is connected to erectile dysfunction, or that it causes any changes to the brains of users. Popular antiporn advocates argue that porn use is a public health issue, not a free speech issue. The fear-based arguments often throw around buzzwords like dopamine bursts and desensitization to describe what allegedly happens in the brains of people who watch too much porn. The problem is that there has been extremely little research that actually looks at the brains and behaviors of people using porn, and no good, experimental research that has looked at the brains of those allegedly addicted to porn. So all of these arguments are theoretical, and based on rhetoric, inference, and applying other research findings to try to explain sexual behaviors.
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>>30527144
In research invited for submission to the journal Socioaffective Neuroscience of Psychology, authors Steele, Staley, Fong and Prause used EEG testing to examine the effects of visual erotica on the brains of people who felt they had problems controlling their porn use. Fifty-two "sex addicts", both men and women, had their brain's electrical activity examined while they looked at erotic imagery. Sex addiction theory predicts that these individuals would show brain patterns consistent with that of cocaine addicts, who demonstrate specific electrical changes in the brain's activity in response to drug-related cues.
But when EEG's were administered to these individuals as they viewed erotic stimuli, the results were surprising, and not at all consistent with sex addiction theory. If viewing pornography actually was habituating (or desensitizing), as drugs are, then viewing pornography would lead to a diminished electrical response in the brain. In fact, in these results, there was no such response. Instead, the participants overall demonstrated increased electrical brain responses to the erotic imagery they were shown, just as shown in the brains of "normal people" in hundreds of studies.
But then the sex addiction proponents might argue that this is because these porn addicts have a stronger response to sexual stimuli. This is one reason that porn and sex addiction theories are so tough to argue: They are unfalsifiable, since they present opposing things as part of their theory, and deploy very fluid arguments to explain when data or results don't match their theories.
The authors of this study included measures of sexual desire or libido and multiple measures of sex addiction in the questionnaires they administered to the participants.
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>>30527147
The EEG results of this study were in fact predicted by the measures of libido, and there was no relationship between measures of sex addiction and the neural measures. In other words, the EEG findings of increased response to erotic stimuli were consistent with the responses of people that have higher levels of sexual desire. The alleged sex addicts of this study have brains that look like those of other people with high libidos, who don't identify as sex addicts.
Another part of this sophisticated analysis is that the researchers looked at different tests that measured aspects of sex addiction/hypersexuality, and at tests that measured libido. They then conducted statistical analyses to identify if any of these test results varied consistently with the difference in brain responses. Again, the tests of sexual addiction had no connection with the neural findings. But a significant portion of the change in neural responses was explainable by the participants' level of sexual desire: When a participant reported higher levels of libido, they also demonstrated lesser neural responses to the sexual stimuli they were shown. This was a somewhat surprising finding, suggesting that people with high libido may find pornography less novel, and thus have less neural response. This is consistent with some other studies which have shown that those with high levels of sexual desire have less response to visual erotica. But this is not unique to sex addicts, and was predicted by levels of sexual desire, not symptoms of sex addiction. Higher rates of sexual addiction symptoms, no matter which of three scales of sex addiction were used, had no relationship to the neural response to the erotic pictures they were shown.
Even among the study group of problem porn users, there were varying levels of libido. And, just like other people who don't have problems controlling their porn use, it is the higher levels of sexual desire that predict this decreased effect.
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>>30527151
Lots of people with high libido have this same effect, but report no problems controlling porn use. The increasing weight of scientific investigation is indicating that "sex addiction" is not a distinct construct, but reflects the behaviors of individuals with higher levels of sexual desire and libido, especially as those behaviors lead people into conflict with social values around sex. Like any other human characteristic, sexual desire occurs along a spectrum, with wide ranges of individual variation. The problems and complaints reported by self-identified porn and sex addicts have to do with the context within which these individuals express or pursue their high libido, not with a unique disease.
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>>30517410
>>30526761
>reddit retards
Atheism is a positive claim. You have zero evidence for this claim.

Theism is more easily defensible through logic - eat less Five Guys and try reading Five Ways. You have no equivalent for atheism, which is why picking that position in a debate is fucking retarded and a guaranteed loss.

Be smart redditors and profess agnosticism - to be "without knowledge". Partly because you're both dumbasses, but also because it's tenable and doesn't crumble immediately when someone says "ex nihilo" or "infinite regress" for every retarded argument you can think up.

Or just kill yourselves, desu. Why go through life as such a colossal dumbass?
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>>30513510
I only learned to hate christcucks on this site
You faggots are one of the dumbest people on the planet with 0 self awareness, but also packed with ultimate egoism and self-righteousness.
You think you are better than everyone else just because you follow your jewish pedophile on a stick that lied and died 2000 years ago.
Freaks and faggots, all of you.
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>>30513252 (OP)
ill quit after i quit heroin. one fight at a time
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>>30513260
after 10years of porn gooning , the porn cured.me.from my sexual desires.. Now I am a free man,.no longer chained and haunted by sexual desires.

Porn is a life changer and it saves lives.Or saves you from nasty life crippling and deadly STDs .

Thank you porn!
>>30519778
screw?
they rape, murder and eat them.
Quite possible even eat them alive for more adreno chrome.
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>>30527176
tell us how you really feel.
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>>30526815
because only america matters, anon.
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>>30526740
you are under the dispensation of grace.
we are under the dispensation of justice.
we are not the same.
we take our place in the lake of fire just to be able to carry out Light's work.
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bump
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Every time this thread is made it becomes increasingly more deranged. Its to the point where it clearly belongs on /x/ not /gif/
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>>30527176
i've never seen such projection in all my life.
only for you, your potential wife and many other women are being sacrificed right now.
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>>30527366
the fact that you remember multiple iterations of it is pitiful and sad. I hope you find the strength and insight to better yourself.
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>>30526156
>Prostitution is illegal.
in america and it doesn't fulfill you anyway. and risking your health for one fuck is not worth it. sacrificing your morals like that is not worth it either. besides, you write yourself off but you probably haven't even tried to learn how to get girls. it can be learnt.
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>>30523756
why are they trash? because of things like normalization of porn.
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>>30526134
anon, you know this is only making it worse, with the internet you have access to the entirety of human knowledge, in that there is help for you. in that you can find ways to overcome your problems and make your life better, and it doesn't start with porn.
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>>30522795
>>30521558
>>30522384
I made this thread for you guys. if i can help just one anon my work is done, but this is great :)
>But starting from right now I'll go on a 6 month nofap, even if it doesn't give me any benefit atleast it will give me a sense of self control.
the mental strength you get form resisting is massive. don't count the days, do so much other stuff you lose track of the days, but if you can't make it 6 months, don't be hard on yourself, we are not god's strongest soldiers, we are weak from constant mental battle. people often make these threads about religion when i never mention it. but I will say this, i was making these threads way before i converted to Christianity. i saw one anon make one, with that gif as the OP image, and it inspired me and motivated me to quit. and it has been a rough road, but I am doing better these days, but getting back to my point; we are in a place of weakness, i believe god takes that into account if he sees us fall to temptation. the strong who could easily resist are those who are judged more harshly.
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>>30516926
>You are projecting. Well, it's a combination of projection and sour grapes.
not at all. i'll be completely honest, it did affect me badly. but i KNOW there are other men out there who think it is normal and ok or necessary, but it's not. and it's ruining their lives.
you are probably the troll, misinterpreting me so badly and completely ignoring;
>inb4 it's not and i'm successful
>ok cool leave this thread then, but don't lie to yourself.
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>>30527446
>i saw one anon make one, with that gif as the OP image
lol
>lower-caase g
Actual christians remember to capitalize.
>conversion
Good if true, more likely the thread is trying to help funnel the low-IQ towards conservative movements. Which isn't in itself a bad thing but isn't it nicer when goals are achieved without manipulation?
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>>30513420
But there are a lot of times you'd rather just jack off quick instead of making a move on her and a lot of times you either rush through her patt because you just want to nut or the idea of making her cum too sounds too labor intensive compared to the quick nut you're used to getting. This leads to less sex between you two and less opportunities for pregnancy.
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>>30513265
I'm not doing anything that bitch suggests I do.
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>>30520768
These threads are motivating me to get away from pornography so speak for yourself. The point in doing something isn't to convert everyone. A wide net will still only catch a fraction of the ocean. Calm the fuck down gooner.
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>>30513252 (OP)
Yes.
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>>30527501
>lower-caase g
>Actual christians remember to capitalize.
your point? i said i'm not an "actual christian" yet.
But that's beside the point, i am not trying to funnle anyone anywhere, other people bring up christianity in these thread, all the time, I'm not really interested in debating, i just want to help anons suffering with the effects of porn use.
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>>30527618
glad to hear it :)
i often ignore posters who write big walls of text, it's another futile waste of time. most of what they said is refuted or disproved in my OP, but they still spout all that pilpul and sophistry, classic trolling, or the cope of an addict. it's dishonest, you can't debate with someone being dishonest.
anyone with half a brain can see past their bs anyway, and those without half a brain are truly lost to this drug, like animals acting on impulses they don't understand.
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>>30527642
>but I will say this, i was making these threads way before i converted to Christianity.
You might also just be making these because you're some fedora-wearing atheist trying to generate anti-christian sentiments, doesn't matter what your real intentions are, since your narrative usually has too many kinks as you weasel around.

Say less, in general.
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>>30527671
again, really obvious trolling bs, sophistry.
>Sophistry is subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation, often used to persuade or convince others without a genuine pursuit of truth.
>Say less, in general.
Pro tip anons: do the opposite of what evil commands.
Never before in human history has anything like this existed, fast, immediate access to sexually arousing imagery and video that has been refined to take advantage of your biological urges.
The sheer quantity and degree of degeneracy that men are exposed to now has never before been known.
The systematic abuse and destruction of women who could have been wives, good mothers, home makers, who now are sacrificed to make money and give you a futile, fleeting drug. a dead end that saps your energy, vitality and ability to function as a person, destroys the lives of what could have been otherwise happy women. most porn actresses are sad and lonely and full of regret, with good reason.
You know where heroin comes from? Poppys. They refine the sap, this is the same thing, refined & weaponized sexual impulses.
No one is supposed to feel this way. No one naturally would ever see things like this. In the same way that no one naturally would have heroin. except porn takes advantage of vulnerabilities in your mind.
If you do not fight porn, you become distracted, your time is wasted and you achieve nothing. Think what else you could have done with all the time you spent jerking off! Empires were not built by gooners. The next mozart or tesla has been lost because he got dragged into porn use, rather than learning or working to create something great. do not let that be you!
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>>30515656
cutting your dick and tits off and committing suicide is at an all time high among this society which is now less religious than ever.
All the people i know who have invisible forces talking to them, are the nicest, happiest and richest people i have ever known. they have nice families, good morals and a healthy social life, but the atheists fap alone to videos of women being defiled in disgusting ways, they have no friends and are largely depressed. today, suicide is the main cause of death among men. imagine what your grandma would have thought, if you had one who grew up before porn. I did, i remember what they were like, they'd have been horrified by the acts of disgusting degeneracy people do now. pretty soon people won't even have grandmas who weren't corrupted by this. I've known the older generations from before the sexual revolution, people who were born before WW1. I've known Christians who don't partake in this self destruction. I've known atheists too. I see a clear difference. believing in god and sometimes talking to him in prayer is the preferable state, and the people that do are more functional and emotionally and psychologically stable and way happier in my observation.
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>>30527718
>OP is caught in his lies and called out
>starts schizodumping walls of text
I feel sorry for you, anon, get help
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>>30522508
Porn turns people into trannies
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>>30528172
I don't see how that's anyone else's problem.
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>>30528147
You didn't read a single thing he said.
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https://youtu.be/UHeqLMTSVX0 [Embed]
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>>30513367
Suck my cock faggot
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>>30528172
>this thing that has existed for all of human history since literal fucking cave paintings is what's causing the tranny epidemic that only started up like 10 years ago
incredible theory anon, tell me more
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>>30515406
MRI is safe cause it doesnt use rays like CT scans.
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>>30513252 (OP)
the flying eagle method is a pretty good read. Name sounds faggy, but it's a decent way of quitting porn. Highly recommend.
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Porn is one of the hardest addiction to quit
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>>30522508
lol THAT statistic again?

Look a little closer. The datapoint was "women who are in a relationship with another woman who have experienced domestic violence in their lifetimes"

Do I need to draw a picture for you?
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>Porn is for kike incels
>Quit jerking it, faggot
>Pussy is the only thing worth living for
>I'm a Christian

kys anons
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>>30520816
>No smart person has ever struggled with porn addiction.
lmao
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Its a tool if you cant use it right then thats on you big dog. I guess we ban guns and beer next or we can learn to use them correctly you know when its time to get work done and when its time to look at porn and the health that porn can bring but when you are looking at porn all day and specificly hardcore stuff then yea you probably have a problem.
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>>30529390
>The datapoint was "women who are in a relationship with another woman who have experienced domestic violence in their lifetimes"
and when asked, 2/3rds of those women indicated they suffered abuse at the hands of other women. hope this helps!
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>>30529288
Why quit? We are straight men that find women sexually attractive. We lust for their bodies. The smell. The visual. The touch. Their noises when they achieve ecstacy. It's okay for us to use our imagination when masturbating. Porn is quicker than imagination.
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>>30529733
>Why quit?
because you have better things to do with your time than make a penis cum.
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I'm a lonely virgin, I'm never going to get a girl. What realistic option do I have other than fapping?
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>>30529288
#trvke

But you can't talk about it because people look at you with disgust, as if it's something different from alcohol/gambling/substance addiction.
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>>30529847
Orgasms feel so good. Do you not engage in self love? (Masturbation)
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>>30528701
Retard
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>>30529733
I would like for you to answer your own question.
Is there nothing abundant porn consumption takes away from us ? From you ?

Is there nothing being corrupted inside watching people being intimate on screens only (not even talking about all the degenerate stuff we do).

Being porn addicted if that is the case is so far detached from the real thim real relationship.
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>>30529999
>i have no counter-argument so i'll just call you a retard
oh the ironing
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>>30528537
There's better uses of one's time on /gif/ than reading massive schizoid ramblings, such as enjoying the few non-tranny porn threads.
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>>30513252 (OP)
It is more harmful to be religious than porn-damaged.
Porn is not a crime, as long as it is not illegal. But religious people commit crimes against themselves, children, and others every day.
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>>30530128
TRVKE
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>>30530001
I find women attractive. I never specified that I like to watch people (plural, man and woman) in a hardcore sex scene. Just women solo. Once a day. Sometimes once a week if I'm super busy. It's in moderation; not gooning and edging for hours.
It takes nothing away from me. I would use my imagination to visualize exactly what I already watch: naked woman.
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>>30513252 (OP)
What if I mostly fap to rplay.live audios and mostly just come here to see naked women doing cute, softcore stuff to get me hard
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>>30530128
>It is more harmful to be religious than porn-damaged.
not in my observation. also do you live under a rock? does this society look better to you than the more religious past?
however, i never mention religion in these threads. other people do.
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>>30528534
unlike you, other people have sympathy and care about other people's problems. and also the trannies literally murder people, get them arrested for questioning them, and make society unbearable, they make it everyone else's problem.
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>>30528588
most pro-porn psyop comes from jews
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>>30529999
witnessed.
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>>30529865
get a gf. learn how, the info is out there. like, info way better than "the game" or "the mystery method" or any of that shit, like deep psychological breakdowns. the simple answer is: women want a strong man who provides, but what does it mean to be strong? stoic, dark triad traits, but that also means you are confident and secure in conversation.
here's three more golden nuggets; don't give her everything, be playfully challenging/playfully insulting and only compliment her about 10% as much. and keep the frame that means you are the boss, you wear the trousers- she breaks your rules? gone. she doesn't meet your standards? gone.
women don't work on logic, they work on emotions and you can learn how to make them feel. start with a cheeky smile and go from there, that simple. you can get a gf now.
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>>30530310
>don't give her everything, be playfully challenging/playfully insulting and only compliment her about 10% as much. and keep the frame that means you are the boss, you wear the trousers- she breaks your rules? gone. she doesn't meet your standards? gone.
This is "the game" though
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>>30529733
i feel nothing but disgust and pity for that girl. i do not lust for any of these women who would make porn of themselves.
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>>30530290
/pol/ and /b/ misses you. Please go back.
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>>30530318
yeah and there's better stuff out there. that's the basics.
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>>30530329
And that is supposed to influence us to quit busting nuts to beautiful naked women on the Internet?
(No)
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>>30530335
You just said your info is better than "the game" and then just regurgitated standard YouTube bro stuff that you now admit is "the game". Fuck off retard. Don't you have homework?
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>>30530330
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ordained-rabbi-ended-owning-worlds-165630116.html
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>>30530350
you are aware that by "the game" i was referring to a specific book by that title right? not "game" as in rizz, some of that info is in that book. much is not.
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>>30530351
Still psyop attempt. The "Us vs them" narrative doesn't work on everyone ;)
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>>30530388
the majority of porn websites are owned and run by jews.
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The majority of religious people have created this drug you call porn, in fact everything that is harmful to us has been created by religious people at some point, even Satan is a creation created to fill us with fear. But the real devil watches and blames everything they don't understand on others. One day people will wake up and realize what few of us do, that day all religions will lose their grip on us. Think of everything Christians have destroyed, all the cultures they called pagans and killed people in the name of God to make people afraid, through torture, terror and pure hatred of everything they cannot accept. You and we are all a remnant of that, even the Romans were among the first to produce porn in their way.
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>>30530391
You are so desperate with this psyop. But it doesn't concern me. I still fulfill my urge to achieve sexual climax with the fantasy of a beautiful healthy naked woman.
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>>30530200
In that case have a good day sir this is not about you.
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>>30513252 (OP)
I pay for porn to hurt women. But I never watch the stuff.
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>>30530448
>Think of everything Christians have destroyed, all the cultures
Yeah, for example:
Destroying chattel slavery
Destroying infanticide
Destroying the Aztecs
Destroying Andalusian Spain
Destroying a world where physics, optics, calculus, electromagnetic induction, planetary motion, gas chemistry, genetics, and the big bang were unknown and unpopular ideas
Destroying concepts of utilitarian or conditional human rights, nobility, and caste systems

turrible, just turrible
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>>30530509
:)
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>>30513252 (OP)
Yeah but my problem is that i have nothing else to do, not having friends and having alot of free time is disastrous for you if you want to quit porn. I'm playing vidya to distract myself but there's only so many games you can play in a day
>>30513265
>andrew
Eh, the guy just says whatever helps his popularity kinda like trump biden and other politicians, i don't like him
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>>30529288
>>30529871
The problem is how widespread and accessible it is, you won't find a wine bottle or a cocaine bag under your pillow, in your pocket and on most ads and tv shows nowdays, whereas with porn it's literally fucking everywhere, i wouldn't be suprised if i made a new xitter/Instagram/tiktok account and found porn within hours of using it, it's why i deleted all my accounts, well, that and so my attention span doesn't get any worse
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>>30530668
You'll be back...
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>>30529733
this

>>30529847
Yeah, like shitposting on 4chan
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>>30530673
To social media? Nah, I've deleted Instagram for like a week now, the first few days I'd get my phone out and click on the place where it used to be and I'd get frustrated but now I'm used to it, now i need to eventually quit 4chan and get myself a hobby or something to do, idle hands are the devil's playground and all that
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>>30530391
Are you trying to get people to like the jews?
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>>30530290
Correct but somewhat irrelevant since porn started because of the sexual revolution, weather porn is being spread by whites blacks jews or asians i don't fucking care, it's clearly harmful and i personally need to quit, society at large should look down on porn but we have shit like cigarettes being sold with no one batting an eye so i don't have high hopes for society
>>30528588
And? If religion tells you to drink water are you gonna stop?
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>>30530700
You cannot quit 4chan. We have all tried. 4chan for life! Seething jannies <3 Endless arguments with bots and rage baiters<3 the cutest women over on /s/ <3 we are trapped here forever.
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>>30530725
Religion was corrupted into a political power play for the purpose of controlling human behavior, and gaining tax free revenue. It is based on false promises, threats, fear mongers, and assumptions. They modified the books they claim is "God's word" so many times. They have destroyed all other books and writings, and murdered anyone that opposed them for thousands of years. That's not peace, love, and unity. That is control.
I don't follow any religion. I'm not an atheist either, but I prefer hanging out with them over religious people.
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>>30530744
None of what you said clarifies what "religion bad" has to do with "porn bad". I disagree with you and think you're generalising too much for your thoughts on religion and religious people, but as i said that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand
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>>30530448
>>30530482
nothing has convinced me more of the damage and evil of porn than the sheer cope and sophistry i face in opposition to these threads.
>>30530744
>They have destroyed all other books and writings, and murdered anyone that opposed them for thousands of years.
islam, that was islam. you will note that thousands of ancient artifacts and carvings, buildings of the roman empire, beautiful tombs, a giant Buddha statue, were left intact untill recently when the Taliban took over those places and destroyed them.
Under christian rule they were prized and protected.
this idea you have of all religions being the same, is bullshit. this idea you have of the destructive christians who hate and destroy everyone who came before, is false. one of the reasons the pagans faded out of existence is because they never wrote anything down.
And again, as a distraction, this thread is derailed towards religion, rather than the core message;
porn is a drug, if it's not, then you can easily quit it, right?
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Does text/jerkin it without porn count?
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>>30530808
>islam, that was islam.
Islamic countries ban porn more then western ones
>a giant Buddha statue, were left intact untill recently when the Taliban took over those places and destroyed them.
Yeah cause it's an idol, I'm pretty sure the bible is against idols too
>Under christian rule they were prized and protected.
>this idea you have of the destructive christians who hate and destroy everyone who came before, is false.
In one of the crusades they literally raped and pillaged their fellow european christians and then came back when they got the spoils and slaves because they didn't care about anything else. If you wanna defend christianity then do so without deflecting to other religions if you could
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>>30530794
>And? If religion tells you to drink water are you gonna stop?
What??? You didn't ask anything about religious views on porn. You asked about religion telling me not to drink water.
Religion is a scam.
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>>30530808
You are so brainwashed to believe religion helps us. Religion is the main source of hatred in this world. You dive into your view on this, then tell us this thread is detailed from the discussion if porn being bad.
Tea calling the kettle black.
You have very little understanding about all of the destruction from every major religions of today.

>>30530868
Facts.



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