𝗦𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶 𝘂𝗹𝗲𝗺𝗮 𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗺 𝗦𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶𝘀 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽 & 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝘆𝘁𝗮𝗻, 𝗻𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗺𝗲𝗻 & 𝗝𝗶𝗻𝗻, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗼 𝗦𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶 𝗵𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗺𝗲𝗻!
Sunni ulema accuse Sunnis of devil worship
Mecca’s respected Sunni muhaddith & Hanafi faqih, Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id Safar al-Madani al-Hanafi (d.1194 AH) accuses the Sunni masses of worshiping Shaytan and jinns:
“𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴] 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯 & 𝘑𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘴 𝘣𝘺 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮.” [1]
Earlier Sunni report says Sunnis follow Shaytan
400 years prior, famous Sunni astronomer & poet of al-Hijaz, Rashid al-Khalawi (d.820 AH) accuses his own large Sunni tribe, Bani Hajir (or Bani Khalid) of worshipping Shaytan, stones & trees:
“𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘉𝘢𝘯𝘪 𝘏𝘢𝘫𝘪𝘳/𝘒𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘥] 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 & 𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘴 [𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘩] ..
𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘉𝘢𝘯𝘪 𝘏𝘢𝘫𝘪𝘳/𝘒𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘥] 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘯𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘧, 𝘦𝘹𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯’𝘴 [𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭] 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯’𝘴 𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨-𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘴.” [2]
𝙉𝙤𝙩𝙚: Bani Hajir is today spread across Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait & UAE. In turn, Bani Khalid is today spread across Kuwait, Saudi Arabia & parts of Iraq.
Sunni ulema accuse Sunnis of selling their kids
Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id Safar al-Madani al-Hanafi (d.1194 AH) further accuses his fellow Sunnis of selling their children out of superstition:
“𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴] 𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘺𝘢’ [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 ‘𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘍𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘩’], 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘬 [𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭] 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘥.” [1]
Sunni ulema accuse Sunnis of worshipping naked men
Yemen’s eminent Sunni scholar & mujtahid, Shaykh al-Amir Muhammad ibn Isma’il al-San’ani (d.1182 AH) says a group of respected Sunni Maliki, Hanafi & Hanbali scholars told him that they saw Egypt’s Sunni population worship groups of religious Sunnis who run around naked in public:
“𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘰𝘧 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪 𝘴𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘴] 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 .. 𝘪𝘯 𝘌𝘨𝘺𝘱𝘵, 𝘢 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘰𝘧 [𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪] 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤, 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘦!
𝘛𝘩𝘦 [𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪] 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘌𝘨𝘺𝘱𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘢𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘨𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘴. 𝘕𝘰 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘮𝘯𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤.
𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 [𝘰𝘧 𝘯𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴] 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘢𝘥𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 [𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪] 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘬 𝘢𝘥’𝘪𝘺𝘢𝘩 [𝘪.𝘦., 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴] 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮.” [3]
𝗦𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶 𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
[1] ‘𝘙𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘭-𝘏𝘶𝘥𝘢 𝘧𝘪 𝘐𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘢’ 𝘢𝘭-𝘕𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘺𝘺𝘪𝘭 𝘔𝘶𝘲𝘵𝘢𝘥𝘢’ (p.64). 𝘽𝙮: respected Sunni muhaddith & Hanafi faqih of Mecca, Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id ibn Muhammad Amin Safar al-Madani al-Hanafi (d.1194 AH).
[2] ‘𝘙𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘥 𝘢𝘭-𝘒𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘪: 𝘏𝘢𝘺𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘩 - 𝘚𝘪’𝘳𝘶𝘩 - 𝘏𝘪𝘬𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘩 - 𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘢𝘧𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘩 - 𝘕𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘶𝘩 - 𝘏𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘣𝘶𝘩 𝘢𝘭-𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘬𝘪’ (pp.237-238). 𝘽𝙮: famous Sunni historian, researcher & poet of Saudi Arabia, ‘Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Khamis (d.1432 AH).
[3] ‘𝘋𝘪𝘸𝘢𝘯 𝘢𝘭-𝘈𝘮𝘪𝘳 𝘢𝘭-𝘚𝘢𝘯’𝘢𝘯𝘪’ (pp.18-19). 𝘽𝙮: eminent Sunni (& ex-Zaydi) scholar & mujtahid of Yemen, Shaykh al-Amir Muhammad ibn Isma’il al-San’ani (d.1182 AH).
Sunni ulema accuse Sunnis of devil worship
Mecca’s respected Sunni muhaddith & Hanafi faqih, Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id Safar al-Madani al-Hanafi (d.1194 AH) accuses the Sunni masses of worshiping Shaytan and jinns:
“𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴] 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯 & 𝘑𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘴 𝘣𝘺 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮.” [1]
Earlier Sunni report says Sunnis follow Shaytan
400 years prior, famous Sunni astronomer & poet of al-Hijaz, Rashid al-Khalawi (d.820 AH) accuses his own large Sunni tribe, Bani Hajir (or Bani Khalid) of worshipping Shaytan, stones & trees:
“𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘉𝘢𝘯𝘪 𝘏𝘢𝘫𝘪𝘳/𝘒𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘥] 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 & 𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘴 [𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘩] ..
𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘉𝘢𝘯𝘪 𝘏𝘢𝘫𝘪𝘳/𝘒𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘥] 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘯𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘧, 𝘦𝘹𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯’𝘴 [𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭] 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘺𝘵𝘢𝘯’𝘴 𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨-𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘴.” [2]
𝙉𝙤𝙩𝙚: Bani Hajir is today spread across Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait & UAE. In turn, Bani Khalid is today spread across Kuwait, Saudi Arabia & parts of Iraq.
Sunni ulema accuse Sunnis of selling their kids
Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id Safar al-Madani al-Hanafi (d.1194 AH) further accuses his fellow Sunnis of selling their children out of superstition:
“𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴] 𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘺𝘢’ [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 ‘𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘍𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘩’], 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘬 [𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭] 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘥.” [1]
Sunni ulema accuse Sunnis of worshipping naked men
Yemen’s eminent Sunni scholar & mujtahid, Shaykh al-Amir Muhammad ibn Isma’il al-San’ani (d.1182 AH) says a group of respected Sunni Maliki, Hanafi & Hanbali scholars told him that they saw Egypt’s Sunni population worship groups of religious Sunnis who run around naked in public:
“𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 [𝘪.𝘦. 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘰𝘧 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪 𝘴𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘴] 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 .. 𝘪𝘯 𝘌𝘨𝘺𝘱𝘵, 𝘢 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘰𝘧 [𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪] 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤, 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘦!
𝘛𝘩𝘦 [𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪] 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘌𝘨𝘺𝘱𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘢𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘨𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘴. 𝘕𝘰 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘮𝘯𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤.
𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 [𝘰𝘧 𝘯𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘴] 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘢𝘥𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 [𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘪] 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘬 𝘢𝘥’𝘪𝘺𝘢𝘩 [𝘪.𝘦., 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴] 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮.” [3]
𝗦𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶 𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
[1] ‘𝘙𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘭-𝘏𝘶𝘥𝘢 𝘧𝘪 𝘐𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘢’ 𝘢𝘭-𝘕𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘺𝘺𝘪𝘭 𝘔𝘶𝘲𝘵𝘢𝘥𝘢’ (p.64). 𝘽𝙮: respected Sunni muhaddith & Hanafi faqih of Mecca, Shaykh Muhammad Sa'id ibn Muhammad Amin Safar al-Madani al-Hanafi (d.1194 AH).
[2] ‘𝘙𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘥 𝘢𝘭-𝘒𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘪: 𝘏𝘢𝘺𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘩 - 𝘚𝘪’𝘳𝘶𝘩 - 𝘏𝘪𝘬𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘩 - 𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘢𝘧𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘩 - 𝘕𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘶𝘩 - 𝘏𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘣𝘶𝘩 𝘢𝘭-𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘬𝘪’ (pp.237-238). 𝘽𝙮: famous Sunni historian, researcher & poet of Saudi Arabia, ‘Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Khamis (d.1432 AH).
[3] ‘𝘋𝘪𝘸𝘢𝘯 𝘢𝘭-𝘈𝘮𝘪𝘳 𝘢𝘭-𝘚𝘢𝘯’𝘢𝘯𝘪’ (pp.18-19). 𝘽𝙮: eminent Sunni (& ex-Zaydi) scholar & mujtahid of Yemen, Shaykh al-Amir Muhammad ibn Isma’il al-San’ani (d.1182 AH).
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