AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[FILTH Tourist]

We've already established how the amount of water that AI is accused of using is complete bullshit, but the thing that really bothers me is how these drawfags can LARP as environmentalists. They appear care for the planet when their basis for their concern ends at the technology they don't like.

I wonder how much energy Pixar's render farm uses for each of their movies? Rendering a single frame of their movie probability uses more energy than a million ai images or videos.

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Alright, name one company who has taken a stark anti-anti stance and is currently profitable

The guy acting like the internet was nothing but high quality and truthful content before AI. There was still slop, there were still scams, fake news and bad information is standard for news, and stressing about if a piece of art you like is "real" or not is legit schizophrenic.

 

[MunsterCheeseJr]

Anti-data center people posting on reddit. They really haven't thought this through.

Morons.

Hell, they haven't even bothered to take steps to the demand they create for data centers.

Anyone that is ant-datacenter should just be banned from every available internet service.

It is like those anti-oil assholes who where products (clothing, shoes, cellphones) made of plastic.

 

[Wodanaz]

false flag or mental retardation
call it

It drastically increases the price of electricity for the people living around it. But I guess that some villagers in Uttar Pradesh can make fake AI movie trailers so it’s worth it.

firstly, the movies are not fake. secondly, yes it is worth it.

if you think anything hollywood has produced in the last decade is better than this, please reconsider

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

I can understand it.
It brings a flood of H1-B Jeets to work the centers into your area and the constant humming background noise of servers for people in the area of it.
I wouldn't want my neighborhood to have shit all over the streets, smell like stench curry, and have a constant humm while jeets wander around trying to rape everything in sight.

 

[LongTallTexan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/shots-fired-at-indianapolis-city-councilmans-home-after-vote-on-proposed-data-center/ar-AA20iUdk

"Human and compassionate" antis:

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I'm going to steal that "Waow that's so HORRIBLE basedbasedbased" comment.

 

[Autistic Sea Lion]

I am so sick and tired of seeing so many comments that bring up AI when the original content literally has nothing to do with it. You are almost guaranteed to see one in a Youtube comment section. Shit like “AI could never recreate this”, it’s become a meme at this point, and I honestly think most people are saying this just to get free likes and agreements because they know it’ll work, and it does because these comments will always have like hundreds and thousands of likes.

 

[Chromeo]

Here's my stupid question: why can't we just use saltwater for the data centers? It doesn't need to be drinkable, it just needs to cool shit down, right? Saltwater can be cold too, and we're never gonna drink it. If they're not gonna do the smart thing and put the AIs in the arctic, they should at least put them in the ocean. It's like throwing garbage into offshore volcanoes, it's basically what God made all that stuff for.

 

[Wodanaz]

Shit like “AI could never recreate this”

that shit was disproven in a 4chan thread back when people were testing out stable diffusion. someone prompted it to make a childish sonic crayon drawing, baited everyone into thinking it was a real drawing by a real child, then revealed it was AI

Here's my stupid question: why can't we just use saltwater for the data centers? It doesn't need to be drinkable, it just needs to cool shit down, right? Saltwater can be cold too, and we're never gonna drink it. If they're not gonna do the smart thing and put the AIs in the arctic, they should at least put them in the ocean. It's like throwing garbage into offshore volcanoes, it's basically what God made all that stuff for.

the same general reason why you can't just drink saltwater: they are chemically distinct
saltwater dehydrates humans, and corrodes metal

I do wonder how much electricity desalination plants would use doe

 

[ilovejews]

I am so sick and tired of seeing so many comments that bring up AI when the original content literally has nothing to do with it. You are almost guaranteed to see one in a Youtube comment section. Shit like “AI could never recreate this”, it’s become a meme at this point, and I honestly think most people are saying this just to get free likes and agreements because they know it’ll work, and it does because these comments will always have like hundreds and thousands of likes.

About as annoying as retards chiming in with "so glad this is AI free!" because the uploader put "NO AI" sticker on the thumbnail.
Like seriously nigger, are you not aware of the concept of lying? Do you just take everything at face value?
And it's always someone who thinks that he can sus out generated content with 100% accuracy. You could clone your own voice to read the script for you and there's a zero chance they would be any wiser; perhaps you could generate an image and then manually touch it up.
The possibilities for deception are endless and they fucking hate it when you point this out to them. I just ask them "How do you know nothing in this video is generated?" and the answers are utterly delusional.
"He wouldn't lie to us"
"I can tell"
"Haha AI can't get the fingers right, moron"

that shit was disproven in a 4chan thread back when people were testing out stable diffusion. someone prompted it to make a childish sonic crayon drawing, baited everyone into thinking it was a real drawing by a real child, then revealed it was AI

There's so many ways to fuck with them. Put two generated images side by side, or two drawn manually, imply one of them was generated and watch them lose their shit when you reveal the deception. Lot of coping about how it doesn't count because you lied, maybe even threaten you with violence.
It's pretty fun.

I wouldn't want my neighborhood to have shit all over the streets, smell like stench curry, and have a constant humm while jeets wander around trying to rape everything in sight.

I oppose data centers because the deals almost always don't benefit the locals. They oppose them because AI makes their leftoid tard scribbler friends obsolete.
We're not the same.

It drastically increases the price of electricity for the people living around it. But I guess that some villagers in Uttar Pradesh can make fake AI movie trailers so it’s worth it.

Do you have any data to support that claim?

Based. Of course the Indians in this thread are getting mad about it.

Pretending everyone you disagree with is a subhuman indian filth is a really weird coping strategy, mostly because it makes it abundantly clear you don't have an argument. About as effective as calling married men with kids incels.
But hey, don't let me stop you. I wouldn't want you to figure out an actually effective method of achieving your goals.

 

[Harm]

Based. Of course the Indians in this thread are getting mad about it.

You can oppose both predatory placement of data centers and political assassination, me thinks.

 

[Riftrunner]

It drastically increases the price of electricity for the people living around it. But I guess that some villagers in Uttar Pradesh can make fake AI movie trailers so it’s worth it.

Sometimes I wonder if these DCs are just being used as a scapegoat for price increases due to failed green initiatives and greed on the part of the utilities. My relatively small city has a few datacenters and electricity prices have remained stable. I find it hard to believe we're special.

Here's my stupid question: why can't we just use saltwater for the data centers?

Microsoft has been mulling over this underwater datacenter idea for a while but supposedly the project has been on hiatus for years. It's called Project Natick if you want to look into it more.

 

[Slurred]

I am so sick and tired of seeing so many comments that bring up AI when the original content literally has nothing to do with it. You are almost guaranteed to see one in a Youtube comment section. Shit like “AI could never recreate this”, it’s become a meme at this point, and I honestly think most people are saying this just to get free likes and agreements because they know it’ll work, and it does because these comments will always have like hundreds and thousands of likes.

I keep seeing this account "Images AI Could Never Recreate" on Xitter, and it's... screenshots of social media posts. That AI could easily recreate.

drains your aquafer

drain a lot of water that may be needed by local residents.

A lot of the stories about this are based on miscalculations and misrepresentations (archive). The story about wells drying up in Georgia, for example, was because residue from the datacenter's construction added sediment to the local water system. It happened before the datacenter was turned on and had nothing to do with water used for cooling. It's a bad thing and the residents are right to be angry, but it resulted from the construction of a large building and the same thing might have happened with the construction of any other large building not intended to house server racks. The datacenter does not even use groundwater for its cooling, it uses the municipal supply.

Sometimes I wonder if these DCs are just being used as a scapegoat for price increases due to failed green initiatives

I think this is likely. Journalists almost always write something like "more datacenters are being built" and "electricity prices are rising" in separate sentences strategically placed next to each other. Never mind the many other upward pressures on electricity prices, from green infra builds to inflation. And even if a datacenter does make local electricity more expensive in the short term, the market will adjust to the increase in demand. Here's another Masley post about data centers and electricity (archive).

I'm more sympathetic to the sound pollution issue, but that seems solvable by not building these things right next to people's houses, or at least investing in soundproofing. Also note that water cooling is a lot quieter than air cooling. Proper zoning of light industry is a perfectly reasonable ask, but not something you should be shooting people about.

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

Guys, do you think datacenters are mostly ai? Are there data centers that aren't related to ai?

It'll be funny if those anti-ai anti-datacenter people decided to strike a data center and it turns out to be Cloudflare's

 

[Evan Kor]

It drastically increases the price of electricity for the people living around it. But I guess that some villagers in Uttar Pradesh can make fake AI movie trailers so it’s worth it.

Actually they'll end up reducing the price of electricity for 2 reasons:
1) More power infrastructure will be built especially since large corporations are far better at getting things approved than whiny California retards who will support high energy prices so long as PG&E puts up a rainbow flag.
AND
2) Their power consumption can be varied over the day allowing a far greater percentage of the electricity produced to come from solar and base-load power plants.

The main reason why electricity is so expensive and alternative energy sources(other than hydro) aren't helping is that we don't have cheap energy storage and the most efficient power plants can't easily vary their output. PWRs(except in France) and large coal plants have to output power at the same rate constantly so if there isn't enough demand, then the power lines will heat up and break and other stuff will burn out. This is made worse with alternative energy sources that can spike energy production at inopportune moments. However, if there is too much demand even for load-following(i.e. medium-sized plants and BWRs), then peaker plants have to be used which are insanely inefficient in comparison.

 

[BinaricHate]

Another part that seems to be an issue that I mentioned before, they are being built on what was once used as agriculture land which is very very close to many people's homes. Installing data centers and warehouses so close to homes is really fucking up people's way of life. Maybe bug people born and raised in new york are used to living in hell but not the people from the south where they're putting these things. You can turn off the internet, but you can't turn off the buzzing and humming and water problems that come with these places near your home. @bort420 They create massive amounts of sound and other pollution, and drain a lot of water that may be needed by local residents.

The reason why they go for agriculture land is because farm land is largely flat, devoid of rocks and hazards and bonus- incredibly fucking cheap since you can lowball out an entire acre of it from the local hillbillies for a fraction of the price actual industrial real estate would cost.

Absolutely cucked community feature lmao I hope all of the politicians and jeets pushing for this technosatanist globohomo silicon valley bullshit get their shit kicked in as much as possible.

 

[Hojicha]

The story about wells drying up in Georgia, for example, was because residue from the datacenter's construction added sediment to the local water system.

This happens a lot, when they bust ground near residential places to level largescale ground.
Municipal supply water is usually, you know, whats provided to the residents.

 

[Harmless Harm]

I keep seeing this account "Images AI Could Never Recreate" on Xitter, and it's... screenshots of social media posts. That AI could easily recreate.

It's not meant to be taken literally. It's just people having fun by showing stupid or odd things people say or do.

 

[Iodine]

I can understand it.
It brings a flood of H1-B Jeets to work the centers into your area and the constant humming background noise of servers for people in the area of it.
I wouldn't want my neighborhood to have shit all over the streets, smell like stench curry, and have a constant humm while jeets wander around trying to rape everything in sight.

Jeets are surprisingly a non-issue in the datacenter debate, because datacenters can be remotely controlled and need very few staff to keep the lights on. That's another reason why nobody likes datacenters in their backyard - for all of the trouble they bring, they can't even give the locals any jobs. Encouraging datacenter construction near residential areas is a weird, leftist-like hill to die on because they really are pure negatives for everyone living around them. Put them far north where it's naturally cold and where nobody lives. Placing them close to residential areas, especially in warm climates, is just straining the local power grid and telling the locals to suffer higher power bills, local pollution, and an ugly ass building for other people's internet services. No shit, they're not going to be happy.

The only people who benefit are those who use the services running on those datacenters but live far away, much like how a leftist encourages niggifying neighborhoods they don't have to live in.

 

[You're MDNWU]

That's another reason why nobody likes datacenters in their backyard - for all of the trouble they bring, they can't even give the locals any jobs

Whenever a new data center is being built, the articles start coming out talking about how it'll create so many jobs for locals and be a nice long construction project, too! All high paying!

They just don't wanna mention that data centers have fuck-all in employee numbers (sub 40 if you're lucky, could be even less than that depending on size and company) and that's if they don't fill it with jeets. And the construction crews will more than likely be out of state GC, A&E, and traveling (illegal) subs.

 

[gagabobo1997]

Niggers they are warehouses full of computers. The only two reasonable reasons to fight the building of them is increased energy costs (which are often temporary, as infrastructure that uses significant energy usually leads to the construction of more energy infrastructure) and noise, which can be mitigated in tons of ways but some things are just noisy. Highways are incredibly noisy too.