It’s very telling that when antizionists talk about Israeli right-wing radicalization it’s never about how to actually prevent it

“I’m not psychotically rabidly antisemitic, I just fantasize about exterminating and vaporising half of the global Jewish population. How dare you call me a nazi you fucking jew”

You are interpreting my post in bad faith, and I won’t give you the benefit of the doubt that my post was in some way unclear.

1. That’s not the point I was making. At all.

The post was about the antizionist argument that the historical occurance of names similar to Palestine, which is made to invalidate Jewish indigenousness and portray Jews as colonizers, and to deny the historical fact that Jewish connection to the land of Israel/Palestine is indisputably older.

And the point is that it’s a ridiculous, ahistorical argument. The post is about the attempts to legitimise the modern Palestinian nationalist movement by inventing historical continuencies that don’t exist (e.g. by bringing up that the Romans named it “Palestine” after year 70).

2. The point is not that modern Palestinian Arabs don’t have a legitimate and real connection to the land of Israel, or that Arabs don’t have a long history in the region, or Jerusalem isn’t important to Muslims and Christians, or that Jews and Palestinian Arabs aren’t genetically related, or whatever else you think I mean.

The term “indigenous” is not in any way whatsoever a politically neutral, scientific concept. Attempting to find an objective standard for “how long” a population has to live somewhere to “become indigenous” is useless. In my dream world we’d all probably just stop using the term all together, but sadly we live in reality.

The point is that painting Palestinians as indigenous in a way that also portrays Jews as decieving colonisers who should go back to Europe is antisemitic. The right-wing Zionist portrayal of “Palestinian” as an empty concept and Arabs in Israel in general as invaders who need to be expelled, is also racist and historically riddiculous. I wouldn’t call it islamophobic, though, because it’s not a very accurate description.

Palestinians and Jews should both be able to live in the land in peace - but the obstacle to this is not the Israelis, it’s that the Palestinian nationalist project has commited itself to achieving self-determination by eliminating Jews from the land of Israel.

Lol this reminded me of the song that Sweden’s biggest political party’s youth organisation publicly sings every year on May Day, with lyrics like:

“Long live Palestine, crush Zionism…. we have thrown stones at soldiers and police…. we have shot rockets at our enemies… the whole world knows our fight… we will free our land from ”imperialism“

How fucking dare you call us antisemites though, swedish jews just happen to all be right wing, we couldn’t possibly have alienated them after singing this for like 50 years

Originally posted by hectorsbellerins

If you ask a swedish liberal or social democrat which one of these is more problematic they will spontaneously combust

I think part of why bullying and harassment doesn't work to silence Jews is because it is coming from Goyim.

When a school bully harasses a classmate for being Fat or disabled or a different race, that harassment it using shared cultural narratives as a cudgel. The bully knows where to aim in order to reach the desired effect.

But when Goyim harass Jews, try to use goyische narratives and values to shame us or silence us, it doesn't work.

Because they are using narratives and values that we do not believe in or adhere to.

They call us colonizers, which we know we are not.

They call us Christ-killers, which we know we are not.

They tell us that forgiveness is a religious obligation, which is not a value we share.

They invent Talmud "quotes" to try to make us defend abhorrent things supposedly written by the sages, but we know they are fabulating and we can counter their false narratives.

You can't shame someone on a moral axis to which they do not cleave.

If the jews don’t react the way we’re supposed to to their behavior, it might be an indication that maybe their behavior isn’t actually that new or surprising in the scope of jewish history

Originally posted by penismewsic

"yahūd"

"falastīn"

"isrā'īl"

"sahyūniyyah"

Shit man I think I got jewish paranoia bingo

Anecdote ??? about what a fucking insane country Sweden is:

I actually, somehow forgot that during a hangout with my seminar group [where I had let slip that I’m a jew], this one dude just casually dropped that he was majoring in political science to become an ambassador for Iran because he’s a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps

Originally posted by best-series-forever

imagine dropping that you’re a bonified member of the IRGC as casually as if you were telling someone what bus you take to uni

(in all honesty, i’ve never felt anything quite like learning that after being friendly and casually acquainted with the dude for months)

Over 85% of Jews are Zionist. And for some reason, your version of pissing off Zionists is coming onto Jewish people’s posts and saying insane things about Jews. 

We are not surprised.

Zionists only like Zionist Jews. That's a fact that is not just presently but historically true.

Zionists only like Zionist Jews or dead non-zionist Jews that they can use to scare others into being Zionists.

They are the KKK of Judaism.

…. Uh no, it is absolutely not “just a fact”. Even my best friend in the entire world is an antizionist jew, and we get along just fine.

Zionist jews absolutely don’t like jews who pin antisemitism on zionist jews and participate and give legitimacy to zionism-related antisemitic framing of zionism.

Like you did right there. It’s fucking disgusting. Doesn’t mean you’re not just as much a jew as a jew who doesn’t compare zionist jews to the worst fascists imaginable, though.