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Schizophrenic echo chamber, Determinism and Causualty edition.
Let us use the non-causal movements of the subatomic particles within our brain to discuss here.

Have causal discussion, *two snare drums and a symbol plays* schizopost, 'valipost, etc.
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Do not post blatant philosophically illiterate leftist midwittery or sincere excuses against moral responsibility.
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Previous thread:
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Have fun!
i love free will, it causes things like this
>>29289
cute 'vali
>>29291
funny
>>29293
anyways i needs study for two exams i got next week
ill be back at 11pm o algx and maybe ill FINALLY make my skibidi argument on abortion
>>29294
gg I might integrate it to my own like Ken Wilber and become teal stage once again
>>29295
when are u getting ur phone back for the weekend
im getting "homesick" without private dmsssssssss
>>29304
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>>29309
idrc
i value one on one conversation but were forced to speak in public lol
>>29304
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>>29312
>>29313
Pookie bear misses talking to xis labubu in private 🤫
>>29314
i prefer private conversations over public ones in all contexts
>>29315
I mean why though, what have you got to say that's so private that you're worried about other people here knowing about.
You discord kittens get almost too parasocial with eachother, huh?
>>29316
whats up with all the questioning my intentions
no i dont have didycord kittens or something. im not a weirdo by a discord user's standards.
i just like having closer more direct conversations. public convos are fine but the fatigue me after a while and it makes me feel more distant from the people im friends with.i like it when I am actively friends with someone both in public and in private
>>29317
I'm getting the feeling that you're just stubborn. We're here for you, regardless.
>>29319
stubborn in what sense
>>29320
It's like you don't want to be friends with us or something.
Pls stay pls pls pls pls pls pls psl pls pls we need your pph ps pls pls pls pls pls pls
labubus have nanotechnology based surveillance devices built into their plastic faceplates because the ccp wants to
>>29321
im fine with you guys (most of yall) but as I said I like more personal relationships (they make me feel like I matter to other people)
im not gonna keave but sometimes i just need closer connection to the people I love (in a brotherly sense)
>>29323
Oh... it's a will they won't they relationship between you and Celantrix, I see.
The couple just needs alone time sometimes...
I am joking ofcourse
>>29324
lol
and then there is foil
>>29331
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ok im making my argumentum contra abortum rn and them imma memorize drug related stuff


THE REAL-TIME ONUS

From the central human experience, we know that human volition starts within the womb as late-term fetuses react to stimuli past instinctual nature. As for obligation to another person’s body, it is known that any adult human relied on their parents in order to live. This is because human dependency and selflessness is a requirement for our species to continue. If we accept the necessity of humanity’s survival to be a moralistic axiom, that being a bare proposition that is true by default in order to elaborate on our metaethics, then it becomes deontologically obligatory to allow a conceived child to rely on your body in order to survive. This is because if you refuse to allow this pregnancy to continue (therefore this aspect of the argument requires a pregnancy to be current, not preceded), then you are denying an organism, particularly one which is genetically a human, a right which you were given in order to be alive; it is selfishness to the highest maxim. From this, infants have an intrinsic obligation to their pregnant mother’s body.


HUMAN CONTINUITY

From the materialistic definition, a human organism is never the same person in any passing moment. This is due to the dynamic nature of biology and the constant gain + loss of materials, chemical reactions, and organic degradation which occurs within any given organism. If we are to accept this definition, then we are to deny the identity of any given individual, which is not inherently a constant characteristic. The center of an individual’s identity, themselves, is something that never changes; your identity of YOU, as in: “I am me; I am who I am [minus the divine-referential connotation]” is something central and unchanging about you, and this exists independent from self-proclamation. From this, the materialistic definition denies that humans have any identity. If we are to postulate now that any given human has a continuous nature to themselves, this nature would apply to the entire timeline of that human. The objective mind-independent grounds of a human are based on their genetics. Neither a human sperm nor a human egg are conscious nor can they become conscious, but the combination is both genetically human and will probabilistically turn into a conscious being or has the significant likelihood of turning into a conscious being. As we already observed earlier, reliance upon the materialistic definition of a human denies that said human is who they are, so via a reductio, we can infer that the materialistic definition is insufficient, as there are fundamental characteristics about humans which give them identity. From this, we can now postulate that a human’s central, unchanging axiomatic identity ““I am me; I am who I am [minus the divine-referential connotation]” is something that spans to conception. From this, a developing fetus ought to be treated in the same way moralistically as any other human.

This is probably a little shitty but eh
>>29355
I missed u. The hours went by like years...
>>29356
im honored
who thinks i should stop namefagging
>>29366
Keep namegodding it's awesome o algx.
>>29370
hows this
>>29377
67 is winnnered...
i do be stating vacuous truths like "q, therefore p -> q" doebeit
>>29378
sorry what does winnnered mean
new name
celantrix would be proud...
>>29381
Can you call yourself something unique so we can give you a nickname like celantrix has? I'm Lachlan, Celantrix is Celantrix, are you always going to be nveot, or are you something else?
>>29383
ive gone by a shit ton of names in the past but u can keep calling me nveot since ur used to it
my full alias goes off of nveot but idk if i wanna expand on it here lol
>>29384
Nveot is a bit hard to pronounce doe...
>>29385
But it works, I guess.
Celantrix and Envyiot.
>>29385
ugh its my YT and Diddycord alias bur fine its The Elegance of Thought
u can just call me Elegance but ion want my actual name getting out there lol
nv is read like "envy" lol and i thought i went hard or smth
>>29388
Elegance, Are you full of yourself? Nobody is gonna find you specifically with a word like that, it'd be like saying "My name is Princess, but u cant know that cus its my real name"
inb4 you are Princess 999999 in the world o algx

To be envyiot, or to be elegant, that is the question.
>>29390
ugh im just paranoid gimme a break
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>>29388
Envyiot is kind of tuff ngl.
>>29391
I was paranoid too but unironically the best pseudonyms to use are overused names, unless you wanna make a brand for yourself or something like that. 
So nobody can really find me, because Lachlan is just such a common name and theres tons of us.
>>29393
makes sense
>>29355
celantrix plzzzzzzzz comment on this
>>29388
>Diddycord
Wtf is a "Diddycord"? This doesn't sound good
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"Diddycord" has very negative connotations. It sounds like a mix of the name of that notorious rapper who is known to be a sexual predator and Discord. I really hope this isn't intentional that way. If it isn't, then how about you stop calling it that and call it something else?
>>29448
i call discord "diddycord" because its full of preds and its a terrible app
>>29454
So why do you still use it...?
>>29455
cuz thats where i met all of my friends
that was before i knew how terrible of a website it is
if there ever comes an app like discord or i discover one like it then ill stop using that horrid app immediately
theres this thing called a monopoly sadly
i aint ever gonna directly pay a single dollar to them doe
also the legal stuff is smth that is out of my control. i avoid the goonerism and predation abd then discord is suddenly fine at least in my experienci dont wanna support them but idk where else to talk with my friends
>>29456
we as a society must take the IRC pill
>>29468
IRC le bad take the imageboard pill
>>29456
I avoid anything thats infested with pedophiles, I quit roblox, etc. I don't like dealing with sexual people, they put me off. I like playing videogames not listen to some down bad faggot talk about sex for some reason.
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>>29470
>I quit roblox
>>29475
This was literally me in 2014 when I quit the game for the following reason:
"Roblox is gay."
>>29476
And then came back to it like a year later.
>>29469
trve but boards don't scratch that IM urge, steam chat might be better

>>29476
2014 roblox was for testosterone laden alpha males doe
speaking of boards did u ever post on the roblox forums
>>29478
Yeah, my personal email is even signed up to some fan-made roblox forums when Quackity shut down the original one, but my child self is a bit cringey, was looking for scripting advice constantly, had no idea what I was doing.
>>29478
Ugggh you LOUSY fuckers always want Discord, you crave INSTANT messages whereas we oldgods prefer sending messages by horse carrier.
>>29479
keyed, i just posted an unreal amount of absolute infant nonsense babble on there, poasting is my lifelong occupation

>>29480
IMs are so goood though, refreshing the overboard for new messages stinks huge
>>29483
IRC doesnt save message history last time I checked though, I could be wrong but everytime I've used it, theres never any history and that sucks o algx.
>>29484
yeah, there's no way to view message history from before you connect to a room which i guess kinda stinks
but that's also how talking to people IRL works
nate higgers is a great man
name changed back on my compooper
>>29508
dutchoid
>>29454
Oh I thought you were referring to a server rather than just Discord in general. My bad
alr back, had to lock in for a bit on homework
>>29548
yayy
i wrote an argument against abortion last night. critique it plzzzzz

i feel like its a little far stretched and I gotta put more thought into it at some point, but I think the first section is good and complete
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>>29355
>The objective mind-independent grounds of a human are based on their genetics. Neither a human sperm nor a human egg are conscious nor can they become conscious, but the combination is both genetically human and will probabilistically turn into a conscious being or has the significant likelihood of turning into a conscious being.

if you have to rely on the baby to attain consciousness in the future under the presupposition of consciousness-based personhood, you'd have to prove creating life on a micro scale to be a strict moral obligation because an abortion on this context would be only to suspend the life-creating process rather than violating the right to life because there is no life with the property of personhood. you are forced to attribute personhood to consciousness if you don't want human vat meat to have an arbitrary right to life, but I'd argue creating the vat meat in the first place is equivalent to incest but worse.

I guess this is my best counterargument against this, as I try to steelman the pro choice position.
the
i guess now that you acronymize it part by part it comes out like this:
ETN "BN" HGS
>>29558
>under the presupposition of consciousness-based personhood
consciousness is not the only variable if we ought to respect the body of a dead person. if its based on consciousness, then necrophilia, cannibalism, etc is now justified.

onto the holistic argument, my argument is not based in reproductive obligation. I already premised that YOUR status as an alive person was something given to you out of selflessness, and to deny that for a developing human that now must rely on YOU is selfishness.

>an abortion on this context would be only to suspend the life-creating process rather than violating the right to life because there is no life with the property of personhood
false dichotomy + argument from assertion (a.k.a. repeating the claim being refuted rather than making an argument)
first the reasoning behind an elective abortion goes beyond simple suspension, its done because the mother does not want the fetus which I already postulated has an intrinsic obligation to the mother's body, and intrinsic rights ought not to be violated. Second, my entire argument here is that abortion violates the right to life, and I am postulating that the actions of abortion (which includes "suspending the life-creating process") violates this right.

>you are forced to attribute personhood to consciousness if you don't want human vat meat to have an arbitrary right to life, but I'd argue creating the vat meat in the first place is equivalent to incest but worse.
This is different. Once life is lost, it cannot be regained, so granting vat meat the right to life is vacuous. Once life starts (at conception), then you ought not to put it to a halt because "you dont wanna child."
>>29563
what
>>29566
oh I see. so the right to life is granted to all human organisms that have the potential for consciousness? that is a bit like what I had argued. gotta read what you said more closely then. I remember some pro abortionists say  that on cases of rape, it is okay to violate that right because you were "forced" to bear the embryo in the womb, or to be selfless.
it was from that atheist 'cord server. one of them posted femboy goonslop on the "memes" channel
>>29571
i dont think its obligatory but its good to keep the baby under rape
some girl in my church thats only a year older than me kept her rape baby
>>29572
Based Atheism?
That server is 30% smart philosophers and 70% gay niggerfags that wanna take it from behind 24/7
>>29574
Kys or seek lord thx <3
>>29574
yes. the 30% is interesting, though sometimes I find myself to be too afraid to debate
>>29575
I was in that server for a while cuz some of the people there are genuinely intelligent but its mostly goonslop
>>29576
same
>>29577
The Discord effect.
>>29579
nawwww this was like recent
ive been a niggafag in the head since i was 13 lol
yes u can harass me abt it
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>>29580
Jesus always here for u. Jus remember that.
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>>29581
ik

anyways heres an ss of notch being honest for once
wait did my demented ass already post this
i think i did lmaoooooo
>>29583
Yeah.
>>29585
yea i remember u called notch based and i was like "helllll naw"
>>29586
Wdym, is he not based?
He did say he had hundreds of cp on his hard drive once on a podcast, I stopped liking him as much after that.
>>29587
Supposedly he was joking.
>>29588
I didn't find it very funny.
>>29587
hes an antitheist im pretty sure
>>29587
thats an extremely retarded thing to joke about as a celebrity
>>29591
Well he hasn't been arrested yet so either he was on the flight logs and got away with it or he just didn't do it, or something.
WAS NOTCH ON THE FLIGHT LOGS?!?! Clickbait title ahh.
>>29592
DID NOTCH GO TO ANY DIDDY PARTIES????
>>29592
idk but joking about having 'p especially when youre popular is a recipe for disaster
>>29595
Well everyone associated with Shadman got away with it. It should be retarded to say that while being popular but unironically we live in a world where sadly nobody actually cares anymore, especially if you have money, and also surprisingly all the most powerful people in the world wanna fuck kids for some weird reason.
>>29573
so how does the obligation disappear in the context of rape? doesn't the obligation come from being forced to care for the child at this point? there is a very heavy burden of proof on this negation.
>>29596
probably cuz they know its immoral and can get away with it - theres a thrill in getting to do something you know is bad but youre not going to get caught
>>29573
If I were a white woman, raped by a nigger, yeah I'm sorry I'm not having that sentient turdball in my womb, abort that shit asap.
>>29599
Women who unfortuantely get raped should only keep their rape babies if they happened to have been raped by a genetically superb alpha chad white male with great genes. If you get raped by a black person, a somalian or a swarthoid there is no point in raising that child, abort it or yeet it.
>>29598
How does that even happen though, you're a fuckin billionaire, there's like thousands of things you could do, except kids, but they chose kids for some reason.
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>>29599
>If I were a white woman, raped by a nigger, yeah I'm sorry I'm not having that sentient turdball in my womb, abort that shit asap.

imago dei genesis 1:27
>>29597
>being forced to care for the child at this point
if you dont want to care for the child after birth, you dont have to. there are other ways to let that child grow up.

it disappears in the context of rape because consensual sex implicitly entails consent to childbearing (because reproduction is the evolutionary and psychological reason for sex and why it has the incentive of pleasure) which would carry all the obligations I argued. without consent, there was no consent to childbearing. idk i gotta expand on it and ik its not a good point.

i think it also has consequential repercussions (if you are to force a woman to keep a rape baby) especially since the baby was NOT a product of the woman's actions, like with kids. should we make an 11 year old keep a pregnancy after they get assaulted by their uncle or smth?
>>29602
There is no possible way anyone could force you to have a kid, if you do not want to have it, and no woman should have to go through keeping it in their womb and having to give birth to it if they don't want it. I don't understand why anyone would be sympathetic towards a rape baby, that's just trauma down the line, especially if you're a woman who got raped or abused etc, and people don't seem to take that into account, if you don't take actions into your own hands, you're just gonna pass down more trauma and abuse to the child because of hopeful optimism by out of touch people who've probably never had to deal with rape in their lives.

That baby is gonna love growing up and get into a fight with it's own mother one day and hear the words "I hate you. I don't want you here, you're only here because I was raped. I hope you die." and if not for that, be tossed around in foster care. I actually knew a kid who was a foster kid, and he ended up becoming trans...
>>29603
yea celantrix as i said theres a lot of likely consequential issues with saying a rape baby is still an obligation
>>29603
I think unjust abortions are an issue though, like maybe a father wants a child but a mother does not, in some cases, the mother has a lot more power over reproductive rights than a man does, a woman can take her kids away from a man even if the man is completely innocent, and then force him to pay child support. There's also an issue in America where some women cheat and some babies don't even belong to the father, and some women are shaming men for taking DNA tests, but nobody is shaming the women for cheating on their husbands.
>>29605
But I suppose all that can be solved by being careful who you give your sperm to, I guess. But as uncommon as it is, women do sometimes rape men or deceive them and get pregnant without the man's consent, and a woman will have a baby that perhaps a man doesn't want and now the man has to pay child support because he assumed he was having contraceptive sex but perhaps didn't release the woman intentionally sabotaged him or something like that.

Anyways I'ma dip from this convo because this is normienigger shit and sex and pregnancy is ew, I took a vaccine called AUTISM and it protects me from cooties, have fun niggers.
>>29606
Also I'll never pay child support.
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>should we make an 11 year old keep a pregnancy after they get assaulted by their uncle or smth?

what is the difference between a newborn and an embryo in this context? I guess we are to justify infanticide in this context. 

>it disappears in the context of rape because consensual sex implicitly entails consent to childbearing

it does not in all cases. some people have sex for the sole purpose of pleasure without the intent of childbearing. the obligation is still present even if having the baby is against their will.

not this tension between deontology and consequentialism man
>>29603
though you may never know whether the child may become proactive at one point like david goggins
>>29610
>some people have sex for the sole purpose of pleasure without the intent of childbearing
i said implicitly. also the reason for the sex being pleasureful is based in an incentivization of reproduction so there's a connection.



>the obligation is still present even if having the baby is against their will.
ugh not the ipse dixit or non-sequitur is the aforementioned text is meant to be justification

>not this tension between deontology and consequentialism man
sometimes consequences outweigh default obligations. if you need to lie about something in order to protect another person, then the lying is justified if the consequences of telling the truth would be more than superficially negative.

>what is the difference between a newborn and an embryo in this context?
and may I ask how this question is relevant?

>I guess we are to justify infanticide in this context
im saying that its not obligatory to keep, not that abortion is morally right. it would be permissible by Occam's razor.
ugh i feel like im starting to concede
saying that the rape baby is obligatory to keep is gonna make people think we're insane and its just gonna make us look bad
also the consequences o alog
im NOT locked in
and this is one of the topics that i really wanna change my mind on but i really dont think that calling it obligatory is justifiable
>>29611
im gonna be offline for an extended period of time fyi cya
>>29620
Why o algx
>>>29613
>i said implicitly. also the reason for the sex being pleasureful is based in an incentivization of reproduction so there's a connection.
it's hard for me to make connections to this. in the conclusion that all cases of pleasureful sex carries natal obligation, what would the middle term be?  are you presupposing that all cases of pleasureful sex have some hidden intent of reproduction? i don't understand.

>sometimes consequences outweigh default obligations. if you need to lie about something in order to protect another person, then the lying is justified if the consequences of telling the truth would be more than superficially negative.
wait what was I even saying? I should  have argued that the fate of the child is uncertain for he may live a good life. there are many stories where people have made it out to poverty, so what stops this case from being another story? if you want to argue for consequentialism, you must argue how a forced birth outweighs murder.

>>what is the difference between a newborn and an embryo in this context?
>and may I ask how this question is relevant?
I added context through the sentence after.

>im saying that its not obligatory to keep, not that abortion is morally right. it would be permissible by Occam's razor.
nvm using the freedom to not keep really just means giving the baby to foster care ig, but in the circumstance where it is unavailable, exercising that freedom would entail killing the newborn, which is not different to the abortion that you would have advocated in this specific case
>>29621
school

>>29622
ugh i admit all my points were shitty and im not locked in
celantrix vvon + neg diffed Elegance for the (second or third?) time evuh
ion wanna justify any form of abortion so i aint gonna continue
>>29627
Don't back down, I personally agree with you that no woman should be obligated to nurse and mother a child she did not want, that's just suffering to the mother. Christians are too optimistic and believe that any woman who gets raped can just have the kid and donate it or something, they don't understand suffering. There are definitely cases in which a woman who is pregnant may have her life threatened if she doesn't get an abortion, or cases in which you must choose between the life of the mother or the wellbeing of the child. It's a very complicated topic, and whilst I'd like to believe that abortion is wrong, the reality is that abortion is situational and must be handled not with "Your body, abort fetus for literally any reason" but must be handled with questioning, evidence and properly weighing the morals of the situation, we can't just live like theres only 1 guideline to live by that life starts the moment some asshole pins a woman down and forcibly impregnates her.
>>29629
no im backing down + Psalm 139: 13-16 or something
its not in my interest to justify ending the life of a kid just because they were in the balls of an asshole
>>29630
A child's life is not as precious as you think. You need to think with logic and reasoning, not with emotion.
>>29631
I wouldn't want to be born out of the womb of an unfortunate 13 year old or something like that. And what if the child is of the same blood? Incest fetuses need to be aborted, there's no questioning that, they're genetically fucked and will have severe birth defects. Abortion is not all evil.
>>29632
What if the mother was raped by someone with horrible genes and the baby ends up with birth defects? What if the mother was raped by someone with a sexually transmitted disease and also, if not for abortion, what about the chances of a miscarriage?
>>29631
I've been thinking with logic and reason the entire time. Also, I'm not going to debate u on this. My holistic argument that I made last night does not have anything to do with how the argument was conceived, so its absolute.

>>29633
this would apply to all cases and ur just advocating for the first stages of eugenics

sorry but i have zero fucking clue where my brain went and i have an exam tomorrow morning to see yall in like two weeks when i dont have so much shit to do
>>29634
>with how the argument was conceived,
pregnancy, not argument
on my God
It's a morally grey thing, not all good, not all bad. It needs to be handled with the proper conversation and weighing of the situation. I'm not saying we should just let mothers kill their own kids willy nilly, but there are cases, rare cases but still cases in which abortion is completely okay.

>>29634
There is nothing wrong with eugenics. Women do it all the time, the men they find the most attractive typically have good genes.
>>29636
thats not eugenics. thats natural selection
>>29637
Same thing.
>>29638
they're not the same thing
natural selection pertains to what is evolutionarily advantageous, and eugenics pertains to what genes are "desirable" which is arbitrary variable
>>29639
Sounds like the same thing to me honestly.
Anyways I'm not entitled to have an opinion on abortion, since I'm not a woman or a disgusting "s*xually active" moid ewwww.
Also we have to bring up really scarce fringe cases when the most likely abortion scenario is that Karen who had the kid with a man she used to love just doesn't feel like it anymore and wants to get her 5th abortion because she can't handle sex with a condom or something, some middle class shit like that.
>>29641
And also we're talking about rape without actually addressing the issue that there is rape that could have been prevented in the first place... somehow. or something idk.
>>29642
Also some women lie about rape and are really good at it. It sounds crazy but it's true.
>>29643
bro entered his rapecel arc
💀
>>29644
Dude shut up. Why are you like this?
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>>29627
[TIER 17] ELEGANCE - COMPLETION by Regionality
Do you guys like that one geometry dash level that had NIGGA In the url o alg
>>29646
celantrix has reached low A-tier o algo
>>29643
ugh ion know what opinion to have anymore
>>29645
>>29649
look what you did to him
>>29649
Thinking is very hard, it's okay.
>>29647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Xz96NIGGA[Embed]
>>29650
Oh no...
>>29651
niggre
im js too braindead rn
>>29646
now celantrix please debate lachlan on this topic
u negg him 100%
>>29647
>>29652
what a cuck
>erm i need to hecking unlist it so my POC friends don't call me a hecking raycist chud
>>29655
>Babe he's pissing me off, pls can u debate him for me pls
I'm joking don't cancel me, gay people.
>>29657
It was a 1 in 992 million chance.
>>29658
im too straight to take offense
also recall that celantrix made me fold as well
>>29659
@celantrix +6sd moment or something
>>29652
NO WAY LIMBO
>>29664
NIGGA
>>29662
imagine
also I love the 1.9 block design style

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>>29667
I find GD pointless, I wanna ask, since all levels are completely pretty much exactly the same, how do you know someone isn't cheating?
>>29668
handcam
>>29669
people that play gd on the regular are gooners that need their dominant hand aborted
>>29670
dawg i'm effectively terrifying difficulty skill on etoh on mobile. my hardest is ToEI and I would have beaten ToQQ if I tried harder, but I stopped when I thought more about ethics

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>>29669
what if the baby is going to die
like guarenteed
like Y chromosome syndrome or smth
wouldnt that be a reasonable mercy killing?
>>29673
I already clarified the only exception would be for the mother's life, but pushed towards a more lenient direction as one death and a fine body is better than one death and a severely damaged body. yeah that's the only exception; abortion abolitionists go too far
>>29674
oh i thought u supported no exceptions
also legal punishments only exist for the consequential, so I won't have a former mother be jailed over even an elective abortion. most would probably  be to have a therapist educated in philosophy to rehabilitate her or something ideal
vufios moralfagging to me rn about using the n word
>>29677
I should make an arg against condemning the hard r
why did kamala insist on welfare when the country is heading towards inflation and higher debt gek
>>29678
why is vufio lowkey right on the things i dknt want him to be right about
>>29680
what are more examples on this?
>>29681
idk hes made me concede on Catholicism, some stupid take I had on the topic of speech, probably some other shit too

he just now said i shouldnt say nigger because people are gonna expose me for it again i guess

he conceded on why its morally wrong but appealed to consequence and I lowkey agree with him
i mog him on morals and abstract ideas but he gets things pedantically correct and it pmo because hes pedantic in the right way
honestly why do my views on foreign relations become internationalist? i'm probably philosophically illiterate and I should have decided that money is better spent on your people because you are more responsible of the people under your country than on other countries. no obligation to get involved elsewhere.
>>29682
how did he argue as to why it is racist? they have the burden of proof and we get to argue for the negation
>>29685
he made a moral argument and whatever but i mogged him on that
its just that after he couldnt refute that he made that appeal and hes right, saying nigga enough times is gonna get u canceled or smth
hes too sheepish in his moral.thinking
>>29685
do u want me to send dms? or smth
>>29688
yes
I do not want some normies familiar with me find this site and assume i'm racist
>>29689
>>29690
bbbut itd be a nonsequitur tho
i hate these woketard retiggas
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>>29691
umbreon pfp sighting
>>29691
People get really uppity about this, as stupid as it is. So I wouldn't outright say nigger around random people. I would have to know the person well enough to trust them first
>>29697
I just have a very consequentialist view on the hard r
>>29696
wait the images got approved for u? there still not for me

anyways i liked the pfp so i kept it
i aint no pokemon 'apist or gooner
>>29700
knho
>>29697
yea thats exactly what i said to him
hes a friend of mine but he doesnt like it when ppl use words that he perceives as bad, even tho he overuses Jesus Christ and OMG
>>29701
what
knho
knh
nh
n
nigger
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>>29702
>3rd commandment violation
>>29704
what did knho mean tho
and yea he justifies it and ot pmo
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>>29706
I use a different theme from the others, step up your game.
Though I am glad everyone loves this one particular image. Yes, Jannie is taking xher time... be patient... (xhe has autism)
>>29705
knho is kino
I just want to reference a specific artist
>>29707
the image never got approved doe...
what r u talking abt
jannie gotta wake up
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>>29708
k0vk3i9sk0gkeru92ofoeopogji02icieopw
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>>29717
why isn't his hair registering; he looks like an albino nigger
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>>29726
is this the approval gif for tranfail
>>29728
Yeah. It's still in the avfoo's GitHub repo geg
>>29729
https://github.com/averi-foo/averi-foo/blob/main/gulp/res/img/file-pending-approval.gif
>>29729
I never removed it for some reason.
It was also a gif I made (actual animation of the anthro cat yawning, I did not make, but the text scroll and the hourglass, I did).
>>29729
>>29730
Rare sighting of someone perusing and taking a gander at the source code other than myself.
>>29731
They're still using it to this day
>>29733
My name is still on their github repo btw.
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>>29731
I remember going to an autistic level of obsessing over the timing between frames to get this edit to work but then Aseprite cucked me and wouldn't let me do frames less than 10ms even 'doe it was important to get the timing right and there's sections where the hourglass takes noticeably longer to move to the next position because of it. Wasted all that time and got nothing out of it.
But then again the initial flags we started with were meant for anpoo but since that was visibly going to shit I just used them to kickstart our own site.
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>>29735
The flags and assets on anpoo genuinely suck compared to ours, derpy ahh faces, etc. 
Also I don't mean to brag or anything but no commits in 4 months? Lys too busy gooning... sad...
>>29737
Our website has a custom CSS theme and they don't. They just made their default theme a standard Yotsuba blue board theme
>>29738
hypebeastflex.foo
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>>29740
>What color is your custom board theme?
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>>29741
You gotta WORK HARD and HUSTLE to get that custom theme rather than spending all of that time jerking off to anthropomorphic black cat women. This is what it means to be rich and to break out of the matrix
>>29717
what the fuck am i looking at
>>29779
erm he didnt mean that - he just affirmed horseshoe theory and wants u to actually fuck like 25 women a day which is worse or something
>>29691
lachlan could u delete this post?
my dumb ahh regrets putting this on a public board
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>>29853
I deleted them for you
>>29854
yaay
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why is it that i only need 5 hours of sleep if I wake up naturally?
I slept from 9pm to 2am and I'm feeling like I slept 8 hrs lol
but if i got woken up by my alarm with all other variables held constant, then i would have felt like a zombie
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>>29866
Antifurry Soldier UTTP reporting in
>>29875
no arrow
>>29875
5yos gotta get off the internet
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>>29636
>There is nothing wrong with eugenics. Women do it all the time, the men they find the most attractive typically have good genes.
Your insinuation is that since a large amount of people do something, its justified. And yes, this iteration of natural selection is different from eugenics. What a woman finds attractive only approximately equates to "good genes" but we aren't even defining what good genes means. "Good genes" is dependent on the evolutionary and conditional contexts and is dynamics; "Good genes" is a contingent variable that is not objectively defined. However, eugenics arbitrarily chooses what may is "desirable" which may not align with what is actually evolutionarily desirable and productive for the global population.

And I don't think that how one "feels" about carrying a rape baby matter. This is reduced down to emotions and generally superficial consequences which falls under the same category as "imma abort the kid cuz i cant afford it o algx"

>>29622
>it's hard for me to make connections to this. in the conclusion that all cases of pleasureful sex carries natal obligation, what would the middle term be?  are you presupposing that all cases of pleasureful sex have some hidden intent of reproduction? i don't understand.
Its the reason why sex is pleasureful in the first place. I've been insinuating an implication: sex is pleasureful implies incentivization for reproduction. And yes I'm implying that the *underlying* reason to desire sex is to reproduce and its justified by the contingency behind sexual pleasure.

>I should  have argued that the fate of the child is uncertain for he may live a good life
yes thats also a problem I have with exceptions for rape. killing the child preemptively here is NOT mercy killing unlike when it is known that the child will live an *unreasonably* miserable life or will die very soon, etc.

>I added context through the sentence after.
I still don't know why you're asking this question.

>nvm using the freedom to not keep really just means giving the baby to foster care ig, but in the circumstance where it is unavailable, exercising that freedom would entail killing the newborn, which is not different to the abortion that you would have advocated in this specific case
yea im starting to agree
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>>29603
asserting a moral obligation is implicit forcefulness. You are not physically forced to do something moral, but you are socially forced. Guess what we do to people that are not willing to abide to the moral code that we define for a society?

>I don't understand why anyone would be sympathetic towards a rape baby
the baby didnt do anything

>that's just trauma down the line, especially if you're a woman who got raped or abused etc, and people don't seem to take that into account, if you don't take actions into your own hands, you're just gonna pass down more trauma and abuse to the child because of hopeful optimism by out of touch people who've probably never had to deal with rape in their lives.
thats why we take unstable parents away from their children. Also if a raped mother doesn;t want the child then theres still the options to give the baby to someone else. The solutions still apply to rape cases.

>I actually knew a kid who was a foster kid, and he ended up becoming trans...
anectode lol
anyways i know that foster care is rough and we need a better system, but assuming that the child is not going to have it easy in life (which applies to most people) doesnt justify preemptively killing them as a fetus.

>Also I'll never pay child support.
based
>>29881
>bbbut they still sounds the same
evolution is not arbitrary, it is a lengthy physiochemical process that we define in a more humanistic sense since its something that is naturally difficult to wrap one's mind around. The middle/high-school level definitions are not what evolution actually is. Eugenics on the other hand is defined, and it arbitrarily selected by a conscious entity.
Evolution is always correct because it is causally absolute, eugenics is not.
for example if you want all man in the world to be at least 6 feet tall, then the distribution of height is going to cause many men to be TOO tall and now whoops a large proportion of the population is now subject to dying prematurely
the average height of men is where it is and has remained relatively constant because of Earth's gravity. If we were to have lived on mars, we would be able to be 7-8+ feet tall without consequences, and it would be more favorable because we'd have better agility, strength, bone bone density, etc. But those things aren't feasible on Earth because being 8 feet tall will wear your heart out before you turn 40.
>>29883
if we are going to go off of "but theyre probably not going to have it easy in life" then youre just negating one of the central reasons to continue living as a Christian + this carries over to all humans because life is just suffering. therefore self-induced human extinction or something
>>29856
thank you btw based chad
im taking my exam now, wish me luck!!!
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>>29890
gl soldier
I didn't read those screenshots before. Vufio sounds like an insufferable faggot.
"You can't say that, it's offensive!"
Tranny alert.
>>29854
Are you sure about that, 2 of them are still being served by the server. Not sure what you did, but you just unlinked them, it seems.
>>29680
Nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger
Niggurds
Nigwad
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>>29884
Eugenics through natural selection is fine. Honest to god you're insufferable anyways, you just believe and act how other people want you to and you're a mega centrist aswell. Those screenshots of your conversation with vufio piss me off, you need not to listen to a retard like that, you can say whatever you want.
"But you're white, you can't say that!"
NOBODY CARES.
>>29905
>insufferable
thats the first time ive ever been called that word lol, and ive had been with countless people over the years

>Eugenics through natural selection is fine
So you concede on consciously selected eugenics being fine. Now you're just playing with semantics instead of defending your initial position.
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>>29916
You still haven't explained whats wrong with eugenics though. Eugenics is good for society.
>>29918
You have the burden of proof there
And I already explained it. What we perceive to be "favorable" is not actual. Only evolution knows, to the fullest extent, what is favorable. I even gave an example of a more moderate form of eugenics that still fails, cmon.
>>29920
You are a normie goycattle. High IQ for nothing. Ughhhhhhh.
Anyways the supreme gentleman is a white sigma male gigachad with strong muscles + tall + other qualities
My Source? Women (or something)
>NOOOO YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG ALL MEN SHOULD BE SHORT TINY JEWS WITH SMALL DICKS OR ALLAH LOVING BLACK LEBRON SHAQUILLE O NEIL OBSESSED NIGGERS
Just wrong, btw.
>>29921
ugh ur just strawmanning
anyways u still havent satisfied ur BOP and I can just dismiss by Hitchen's Razor
>>29923
I don't know what any of that means, good genes are good genes, you can't argue with that.
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>>29920
evolution is fake or something
But then again you're an autistic faggot who listens to just about anyone so ofcourse you're like this, but if anything I would imagine you would be in support eugenics or something like that so we can get less of you out of the gene pool. That's kind of what I'm doing anyways regardless of whether I like it or not. 

Anyways eugenics doesn't really matter since it's the women that mostly get to decide and unfortunately some of them are being psyopped into interracial romantic relationships. But I have hope that one day every man on earth will be about 8 ft tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, extremely muscular from birth, white and have superpowers. I'm not racist, I'm just competitive and I want my race to win. I want my race, to win the race.
>>29930
If that's what racism is then we're all racist, we can't let black people get the jump because they're all across america now, we gotta start Hugo Bossing our way into their extinction using MORE fentanyl and MORE poorly trained police officers.
>>29932
Meanwhile da black man is plotting our downfall too.
>>29930
>I have hope that one day every man on earth will be about 8 ft tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, extremely muscular from birth, white and have superpowers.
gayyyyy
>>29937
I'm not gay THAT'S JUST WHAT THE WOMEN WANT.
>>29940
>No the women actually want tall hypergamous black men who abandon their kids
DEI Brainwashing
>>29940
women don't know what they want, that's the problem
>>29942
Okay ngl you're kinda right though actually. Society would be much much better if women collectively agreed to not fetishize literal serial killers or have sex with criminals, who have the criminal gene, who give birth to kids with the criminal extra Y cromosone gene or something, who go commit crimes or something.
>>29943
So first we need to use eugenics to genetically engineer the aryan woman phenotype so we can have the aryan race and then we'll make the men genetic super soldier genome clones who we'll send to fight wars and stuff so we can finally rule the hecking world again under one empire.

THE ROMAN FVCCKING EMPIRE LETS GOOOO
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REAL
>>29945
ACTIVATION CODE: RONALD MCDONALD.
>>29943
they do this bc the only assertive men left are the ones who kill people
nick fuentes & josh moon have a bunch of female admirers despite being effeminate soy goblins (and the former being a literal fag) because they're vaguely conservative and say mean words
>>29944
meds
>>29947
THE LIBERAL MIND CONTROLLED GOYWOMEN YEARN FOR NICK FUENTES
THEY WANT TO BE GROYPERS.
THEY WANT TO BE GROYPED. 
geeeg wtf 😭💀
>>29948
*groyps u*
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>>29949
Thank you for groyping me, I now look like this, or something.
CRUSADE THE REVOLUTION BEGINS TOMMOROW WHEN I PERFORM EUGENICS ON MY LEGO SET TO MAKE THEM ALL WHITE ARYANS INSTEAD OF YELLOW 

HOWEVER
I DON'T OWN ANY LEGO.
>>29950
lego people and the simpsons come chinese by default 😭
>>29951
Made in China....
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>>29952
nigga having conversations with his jolteon tulpa this really is /schizo/
>>29951
maybe they have jaundice
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ME AND MY JOLTEON TULPA ARE GONNA BE WITNESSING THE HITLER FORTNITE REBIRTH EVENT GO DOWN LIVE AS ALL THE JEWIM CRUMBLE TO ASH AND INDIA RISES AGAIN
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Does anyone have that video of the indian guy saying he's aryan pls post it.
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>>29957
uuuhhh... This?
>>29958
No the one where he says "DONT MESS WITH ME."
>>29959
Sorry, can't find it rn, gonna dump some videos i have on my hard drive and see if i have it along the way
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>>29961
This is real and all indians are aryan.
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>>29973
running up those server bills
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>>>29973
>running up those server bills
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>>29973
Hotline Miami 2 ambient meets New Order ahh music
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>>29983
Don't show this to nveot he'll think it's aryan or something and won't understand the implications of this being a faggot because he listens to everyone and follows the leader.
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He's probably gay because someone convinced him he was. Lol.
>>29986
DON'T LISTEN TO HIM BARNEY IS ARYAN
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SOMEONE DO SOMETHING
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>>30000 what is the get
>>30014
0/10 get
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swar0r in an altetnate universe where he isn't  the most retarded +2.5sd on the planet

his Twitter account got suspended for like the 6th time btw
>>30014
10/10 give
>>30027
BLOW ME nigga
>>30032
gladly
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>>30033
>>30032
Woah woah woah, not so fast.
Stop that.
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LMAO
he started it and i like folllowing orders apparently
>>30036
Don't be down bad, Jesus is watching
>Don't be racist, Jesus is watching
Jesus wants you to be racist
>*incomprehensible nigger babble*
Bro trust me.
>>30037
fbydvfuzibfjgyit7vraekyCVhaebhv
>>30039
Is this the key to your crypto wallet or just the incomprehensible nigger babble I was talking about.
I know you americans have your accents but I did not say "bible" I said babble, you're babbling.
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>>30033
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>30040
from our world and casuality, it can be determined probabalistically what one will do given their brain chemistry and other structures. If we allow someone to make a choice between A and B, and their decision changes without new variables being put into the equation, we have seemingly negated the premise of absolute nomology and we therefore have substantial evidence that volition is actual, and not just an illusion.

If "I think, therefore I am" is valid, then we run into a predicament as our own logical formulations are not mereological simples (I dont remember how gang). If we can invent deeper parts to mathematics, we can then postulate that 0=1 through some equivalency. By PoE this would lead to the negation of the cogito, but we know that we exist, therefore the contradiction does not exist, yet something must be capable of negating this issue. Therefore, God exists.
*blows rape whistle* *blows rape whistle* *blows rape whistle*
>>30046
this is niggerblabble btw ignore it
celantrix gets the reference but I only remember 75% of it lol
wait celantrix can u copypaste it plzzzzzzz
i genuinely don't remember the first part of section 2 of sarvyx's shitty arg for God thats full of logical leaps
>>30047
the raped or something
hey were already 0.52% of the way to the next get
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>>30029
>Obsessed wordswordswords debatemebro
>Antifurry chud larper pfp
You know I think one can come to conclusions from this kind of person from initial impressions alone and not have to worry about reading the volumes of SNCA he probably braps out by the minute expecting everyone else is required to read or whatever but that's just me.
>>30055
no thats not how they talk
its an edit. the person that made this image is some hypergenius and he put his own arguments over that guy's tweets cuz that guy is retarded and it looks so out of place to see his account speaking coherently
>>30029
oh he's using his brain for once
>>30062
no im pretty sure sarvyx just replaced his own words for swar0r's, cuz swaror made some shitty antifurry arg reply chain on twitter a few weeks ago and both sarvy and I agree that it was shit
thats EXACTLY how sarvyx talks lmao
>>30063
oh. you have so much to talk about him. you make me assume you still have contacts with him
>>30065
i dont bro
he still wants me dead
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>>30057
IDK blüd. with this amount of abstractions and assigning values to letters and it's not math class you should probably use that intelligence towards chemistry and cook meth like Walter White or somethin, I dunno what to say no mo' man like
>>30065
trust me i would NEVER speak to him again
he hates me so fucking much
>>30065
i got the image from his channel in case youre still skept look
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxC7QdR21M6iVrjHNz2PWLynovDqnVxBcH?si=WkFb8qNIO-RZa8YE
why do i always forget to delete that last little bit of the link
>>30072
my chromebook does not have access to yt yk
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>>30074
it does if its embeded doe
oh wait this isnt embeded + its a post
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i aint commenting either

this is literally his only post rn. he deletes his posts all the time
+5sd IQ does this to an mf
stay retarded gang <3
>>30065
and idk if ur testing me or smth but i dont wanna lose ur trust
whats making u think this?
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he literally said this about me
why tf would i keep talking to him
he could just grab my IP and satisfy his wants (he literally already can cuz he has access to it from my other accounts)
>>30084
it's just the quantity of how much you talk with him, it's tricking my brain a bit, that's all. i'm sorry if you felt any suspicions.
>>30085
why did i forget about this
>>30086
its out of hate not anything else
he doesnt leave my mind because of the things he said about me. I got VERY paranoid for some time because of him and I had dreams about him harassing me and trying to kill me
>>30086
and I dont talk with him, about* him
sorry i overlooked that cuz i was in my autopilot mode + i normally read messages as a whole so i miss the wording
>>30089
oh... I don't want to enter a mode of reductive collectivism, but this does make me hate troons more
>>30095
he used to be cool before February according to some ppl
idk what happened to him but i think him going atheist mode had a large influence
>>30097
dude what was he like before february? wasn't he eastern orthodox with normal beliefs such as objective morality?
>>30099
i dont know but his troonsgenderism arc started in feb
idk what his philosophies were back then but he became Christian in 2023 when he made his argument
he also thought genocide was a feasible solution to world hunger
>>29973
sanguinarius ↔ knho
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>>30102
>>30104
what were the chats u had with him like
im genuinely curious to know if he talked differently to u
>>30110
i've barely talked to him. all I did was to share some debates I had with him to get a ranking from him
and that one debate that I would like to share when I get back my access to discord
>>30111
yea being """friends""" with him kinda feels forced cuz he rarely messaged me first either
what rating did he give u

>>30112
is this a debate I am aware of?
>>29850
kant kill boykisser
>>29717
sigma
>>>30111

>what rating did he give u
a-

>is this a debate I am aware of?
yes, it was about transgenderism
>>29719
humoids... this is your mindset...
>>30118
oh yea. i forgor what his huge argument was but honestly if i read it rn i *might* be able to come up with *a* rebuttal.

>a-
gang he just putting people on the high end "cuz why not"
I found out that he was just saying it to manipulate ppl into thinking theyre good at debate
he lies about EVERYTHING lol
also he glazes ecmac too much
hes almost 2SD above ecmac but he worships him lmao
idfk why
he put me at mid A tier right before he crashed out on me btw
>>30123
I was surprised on the rating gek
and have you seen more from yetanotherweek?
>>30127
same
i thought hed put u at mid to high B lol

>>30128
hes uploading videos. youre subscribed to him im 95% sure
can u send his yt handle? idr what it is
>>30129
to be fair I don't know how the ranking system is scaled if we are supposed to be nothing compared to actual formal debates.
>>30132
https://share.google/tOWAHFMAfgXrpe4SB 
copy paste his most recent videos here
him and alicia are very competent but i think i could beat both of them in a debate

>>30134
I think we are C-tiers. It also is ranked from T10 to T1 where T1 is the best. SarvyX gave me a T6-T7 rank all the way back in August, which was his HONEST ranking of me so I might be T5 there now.
>>30137
ok bro it looks like the vs battles wiki thing. are there any other people other than sarvyx who can rank?
i'm pretty sure alicia was a T5
i dont exactly remember, but I knew someone else that is T4 on philo comm and hes 100x better than alicia.

>ok bro it looks like the vs battles wiki thing. are there any other people other than sarvyx who can rank?
wdym
but im NEVER going into competitive debate cuz its such a dangerous and toxic community on discord lol
>>30140
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System
>>30142
thats for powerscaling
ya know the thing where they make a bunch of speculative BS up about fiction?
>>30143
yes why do people base so much of their identities over some entertainment slop; they're probably presupposing some degenerate view on ethics every time the debate over something so stupid
>>30152
and its all about personal bias lol
everyone just ranks their favorite show as T0 and try to justify it
I don't care if you prove that the tau can kill all avali, I care more about the writing and the community
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>>30154
can u redpill me on avali what are these niggas
Avali are similar in appearance to prehistoric raptors, being bipedal and feathered, with large wings ending in rudimentary hands, long tails, and four rabbit-like ears.

They are typically 1.5 to 1.8 meters long from nose to tail, with about half of this length being in their tails. The tail aids in balancing when walking on their rear legs. Standing, they average 1 to 1.2 meters tall.

Their multiple ears permit them to track prey through hearing alone. Each ear has a separate audio processing center, allowing a single Avali to listen to and process multiple simultaneous sounds or conversations.

Having evolved on a small, cold moon with a dense atmosphere, Avali biology has several adaptions specific to that environment.

The lack of readily drinkable water means they use liquid ammonia to support biological functions. Their bodies are thickly insulated with feathers to deal with the cold. They have large eyes, adapted to see in the dim light far from their home star. Their relatively small stature and high arterial pressure assist in tolerating the dense atmosphere.

Conversely, Avali wings are only capable of sustained self-powered flight in low-gravity environments and they struggle with temperature regulation in hotter climates. Despite their large eyes, they have relatively poor eyesight.

Female Avali tend to have muted, two-tone feather patterns whilst males have bright, iridescent color bands across their bodies. Avali reproduce similarly to real-life birds, with the female Avali laying a single egg which typically takes 4–5 months to hatch. Avali children are raised communally.

Avali originate from Avalon, a small icy moon that orbits a large gas giant. Most Avali live around the equatorial regions where

They are a nomadic species, initially freely roaming their home moon before acquiring space travel and establishing colonies and outposts elsewhere in the solar system.

History
Early Avali history is difficult to trace. Their extremely nomadic lifestyles left little by way of permanent or long-lasting structures that they could be identified by, and the hostile conditions of their home frequently destroyed or buried other potential artifacts.

Avali traditionally practiced an animist belief system, however, this adherence to religious tradition has become rare in modern society.

Societal structure
Historically, Avali society was made up of nomadic packs. Packs are typically made up of 3 to 6 unrelated Avali who were raised together and have come to specialize in a specific skill set. Several of these packs will come together to form tribes: free companies each with a distinct history, cultural tradition, and internal governance. Tribes have no permanent structure, usually formed to accomplish a particular task, with different packs joining and leaving the tribe as their skills are required.

Tribes may decide to settle in proximity to one another if they have complementary goals. For example, a tribe that manufactures electronics may form near a tribe that builds components, which in turn may form near to a tribe that mines the rare earth minerals needed to produce them.

Over time, many of these colonies joined together to form the Illuminate, a centrally-governed federation of Avali colonies. As the Illuminate developed into a post-scarcity society, it became commonplace for modern Avali to no longer need to work or to belong to any tribe, instead indulging themselves in individual goals, art and creative endeavors. Almost half of Avali live on worlds under Illuminate jurisdiction, including on their home world of Avalon.

Technology
The Avali are a highly technologically-advanced race, having developed consumer electronics, advanced communication networks, faster-than-light space travel, and cybernetics.

The Illuminate government is managed with the help of the Oracle, a powerful artificial intelligence that has been intentionally "shackled" to prevent it from developing self-awareness.

Almost all Illuminate Avali have some form of cybernetic augmentation. The most common of these is the Guardian nanites that maintain the physical health and well-being of their hosts. Most also have neural "jacks" that allow them to interface with the Nexus—an interstellar virtual reality that exists parallel to physical society—allowing the various Illuminate colonies to access databases of the species' combined knowledge, communicate, collaborate and relax together in a shared environment.

Intrusive physical augmentations, such as artificial limbs, are also common in cases of injury or amputation. A subset of Avali known as the "Oracle Cult" willingly undergo such extensive augmentation, considering a technological singularity to be the inevitable next step in Avali evolution.

Technology on worlds outside of the Illuminate government's control varies greatly, but is largely less developed, as they are denied use of resources like the Oracle, Guardian nanites, and the Nexus.
>>30158
whos WF thou
>>30160
WikiFur
>>30161
zoophiles in disguise land
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>>30156
they have lore on the fandom wiki but was apparently discontinued and vandalized, and the wikidot wiki was written by the original creator. there is some unofficial fan lore by Todd in a pdf, but it was discontinued allegedly to some controversy. they were first popularized on the game starbound in 2014, but the original creator, ryuujin refused to let chucklefish buy the ip for avali, so this entity is now distributed to the public. there are game mods that add avali like Stellaris and rimworld also. unfortunately, there are also some niggas larping as them on vrchat, but I distance myself from them and I only know some 3d models of them. few are good like the KAvali, but i don't like most of those models. i've been banned in so many avali discord servers even if I try to restrain myself a bit from becoming chuddy man. for artists, I recommend morosoph8, cookicat, juice_lime, and 07productionz, to which i'm a friend with.
because of how undeveloped the lore is, I see it as an open canvas for interpretation, but i'm not literate on stuff like biology and technology so
>>30166
all avali servers are circle jerks for gay niggas -> ∀xCx or something IDFK how to write this in predicate logic i literally cannot understand how it works
>>30166
fascinating
i'm really interested in these open lore projects, but they always attract the worst people
>>30168
trvke
>>30170
this tickles my militaryfag sensibilities a bit doe
>>30168
nominaloids... are you still clinging to universal proposition derangement syndrome?
>>30175
by occams razor yes
ur server doesnt count cuz its not popular or something
these servers attract a general demographic so its very probabilistically justified that any given popular avali server is degen and just another liberal circle jerk, and using an i proposition is misleading
ugh universals work approximately sybau
>Which is a paradox of the past imperfect tense with the theory of relativity
and then this happens when I explain my understanding of what Vufio just said LOL
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I think he got pissed that I understood a complex abstract idea within like 90 seconds lol
im super mega skibidi
>are you smoking?
gang this almost 20 year old kid
>>30178
almost every avali person left my person and it's now just mostly non furries who I invited to gek
>>30184
unfortunate
total avali death except for celantrix cuz hes cool
>>30185
I swear, trigger is going to get epi'd at this rate. he's a malleable 15 year old troglodyte, but he was the guy who introduced me to the avfoo so
perhaps I should pull out a doomeroze and not call myself a furry atp
>>30186
yea hol up lemme compile every alt-right chud meme hes sent so far in my server
>>30188
do you see him closer to being epi'd or is he careful?
post every single avali he shared
hes sent like 15 -20 lmao

>>30189
kinda yea
this is his pfp rn
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i keep on hitting send before i attach the image why
what would the standard deviation of intelligence be for people like 3000 years ago or smth on today's tests
i feel like some people like Socrates would score around 145 but that would be like some of the highest scores for their time
or maybe humans are getting dumber
maybe a +2sd a millennium ago is a +3sd today
>>30194
I would guess 50 iq; people just do repetitive labor.
>hes sent like 15 -20 lmao
send them all; spoiler what is suggestive
>>30196
maybe lol
lemme change to that christian thingy too. its based

>>30197
im not going to take the time do download them all
celantrix how about u refute THE argument

God being the totality of all things as in the infinite substance of which all are modes of is justified by quantum field theory and mathematics. For starters quantum field theory shows us that all particles and objects we perceive are temporary manifestations of a quantum field. Furthermore the wave function extends infinitely across the universe, this is a necessary axiom for our physics to work. Furthermore given the 2022 nobel prize experiment in regards to bells theorem and locality it demonstrates that the universe is maximally holistic which completely supports my position (and spinozas). Lastly it best account for consciousness and the metaphysical positions that are the most well supported such as anti essentialism (with everything being modes of one thing) and universals (which everything being a bundle of tropes that borrow from a fundamental substrate) this helps explain mathematics and logic itself. Furthermore my god doesn't intervene in the universe or anywhere else, because my god is everything. Your god can come in at any moment and disrupt the temporal coherence of the world which annihilates the possibility of knowledge as inferences and causal succession itself is being constantly violated by providence and/or interventions. 

Your views are self refuting as you cannot justify inferences which is necessary for logic, maths, reasoning etc
This is because causality is a necessary axiom for any system and this causality must remain in some sense, absolute. If your god (which everything is contingent upon) can simply enter this world and change the temporal/causal succession (as in make things be other than they were) then this poses a deadly epistemic and metaphysical issue, as causality itself is being disrupted from a non causal entity, which collapses the nomic web of temporal succession which destroys mathematical and logical and physically symmetry, collapses time symmetry, inferential symmetry and not only that it also destroys the soundness of deductive logic itself, meaning that maths and necessary truths are inductively verified instead of deductively which is impossible.
LogosDIA's argument for Pan/Panentheism
>>30199
i think u can at least come up with a rebuttal
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>im not going to take the time do download them all
can't you just copy image?
>>30199
uhh later
>>30202
ugh i was going off of memory but lemme start getting them
ok that was an overestimation
it was 12
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also a couple videos
thats probably where the extra few in my head came from
>>30193
jannies WAKE UP
>>30210
can i ask hows calculus goin for ya
what are yall covering rn
>>30211
I easily did the quarter 1 exam no sweat
after, we're getting into actual calc
>>30213
oh ur starting to get into differential calc now?
the good 'ol power rule, product rule, quotient rule, etc

at some point when im bored ill probably relearn all of AP Calc AB in like a few hours
>>30193
irdk about this
>>30215
ite very femboy-esque
makes me uncomfortable
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>>30210
I can't be watching the site 24/7
>>30217
yes you can
you only exist as our luxury of not having to wait for our images to load o algx
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>>30218
Make an account thoughie
>>30219
i did but i deleted it
im already using the alias that I use on other websites so i think im tuff enuff
>>29899
The point is that they're not visible to the public. Obviously you can still probably access them. 

>>30220
Well I'm off to go goon in VC with my cordxixters, so you're gonna have to wait...
trips
>>30221
ew gooners
female gooner at that
off with ur hear /j
head*** oml im stupid
@lachlan am I supposed to respect women?
>>30216
I swear if he is blushing. pls post the avali art that trigger posted so I can judge them
>>30217
oof
Sorry for not approving or something, my mother wants me to make a forum for her and I also need to make dinner. Celantrix, Nveot, sign in on your acc and you'll be fine or something.
>>30228
I lied BTW. I'm still watching the site right now. Post all of your files or whatever...
>>30229
She is so tech illiterate it's annoying
>>30229
i'm alr in my acc
>>30232
K u have trusted perms
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>>30233
gg!
>>30232
Click account to check, if it says login then you're not logged in.
>>30234
You are not logged in.
Nveot doesnt have an acc rn so if he doesn't make one he's gonna have to wait for jannie
>>30235
whaaaat?
>>30237
Oh. You're trolling me.
Lol.
Or maybe that's actually him
Anyways gotta blast.
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You have an acc pls use it k?
>>30206
That last one is fucking vile by the way.
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>>30240
ok test
woah instant approval
oh i didnt know this
lemme make an acc
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oh maybe i was misinterpreting this idk
aww i dont have special approval
sad
>>30242
kant mewing
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>>30249
kid this is Kierkegaard
>>30251
i always assume its kant cuz idk the philosopher's faces
"erm ACKuhchuwalleya... *correects a superficial detail* therefore you got neggggggged u lost the argument GEG"

ts what u sound like or smth fagvali
>>30264
Whaaaat no
>>30265
ur getting midwit syndrome at 137 IQ, Celantrix
I'm prescribing you 10000 gram fish oil pills with 3000mg omega-3 po q2h, #360 refill in 30 days so u can't sleep geg. which is gonna kill you but ur too far gone at this point /j
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>>30266
Being a midwit is based.
TID TOTAL INTELLINIGGA DEATH
DIE DIE DIE AMD WINNAR.
>>30267
total midwit death
if i were to advocate for any form of eugenics it would be making the intelligence distribution bimodal so theres no midwits
>>30269
Intelligent little goys like you do nothing for society.
We should just kill all of you high IQ faggots, you contribute nothing.
Being a midwit is far better than actually being intelligent, or something....
Midwit + Grok AI = BETTER THAN INTELLINIGGA
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>>30266
I take omega 3 fish oil pills doe... my psychiatrist prescribed me them
>>30270
bbbut im a philosopher and a future theologist and pharmacist
im gonna move to the UK, get certified, and make sure that I'm ur pharmacist when u get hospitalized so I can compound your IV fluids to be 3% saline so your red blood cells crenate and ur vessels rupture geg - then u can no longer breathe

>>30272
I take 1200 mg omega-3 and 5g creating monohydrate a day
>>30269
are there any other iq tests other than mensa international? my father took it and he got question 6 wrong
>>30269
we restrict who reproduces by SAT scores
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>>30274my guy that is NOT your father /j
do u mean mensa norway?
also if he got question 6 wrong i think u should just give up honestly

>>30275
thats no longer an accurate measure of intelligence. It was before 1994 or something I think
>>30273
>Philosopher
Helps literally nobody
>Theology
Also, who cares?
>Pharmacist
Actually hurts more than it helps

Could have been
>Gas station worker
>Garbage man
>Caterer
>Childcarer (albeit more of a womans thing)
>Lawyer
>Internet service provider
>Hacker
>Nurse
>I AM A SURGEON
>Fisherman
>Butcher
But no you chose all the high IQ gay jobs where you mostly sit around and do absolutely nothing.

I'm just like you but smarter because I don't have to do lots of tests.
>>30273
Sir it is unwise to make threats against me, if you come to my country I could use that against you in a court of law to extradite you back to the US on grounds that you are a significant risk to me and my family.
But I'm not gonna do that cus I'm not a karen o algx.
Midwiggas > Intelliniggers.
>>30277
philosophy and theology are necessary schools of thought for progress in deconstructing our previous ideas of God and continue to understand him. that is (partly) why I want to do these things. u just dont know what its useful for geg. things like Occam's razor, intuitionistic logic, and induction are applicable across all fields of healthcare.

I understand that treatments with drugs is inherently harmful over actually having people change their life decisions, but filling prescriptions for fatasses that have type 2 diabetes is not the only thing we do. we also have to deal with drugs for people with... terminal illnesses, infections, hospitalization from injuries, etc.

>But I'm not gonna do that cus I'm not a karen o algx.
thats why i did it lol
Intellinigger Fan:
>"I'm so high IQ look at me!"
>gay furry femboy on discord obsessed with higher education instead of genuinely important societal ground work
>Everybody thinks xe's weird
>"my pronouns are" begins spewing out random letters and numbers
>talks about random shit in public nobody can understand (it helps absolutely nobody)
Midwigga enjoyer:
>Believes he is a genius, and so does everyone else
>Works important jobs for every day people
>Is heterosexual
>Is seen by normal by most of his peers
>Is not an intelligent socially fucked retard, and therefore can work with normal people

Midwiggas won.
>>30281
Intellinigger:
>"look dad I used quantum physics to make my gay fursuit"
<Nobody fucking cares

Midwigga:
>Guys I just fixed my mom's car, I'm a fucking genius! I could do this for everyone else
<Dude, that's awesome!

Midwigga win.
>>30280
>philosophy and theology are necessary schools of thought for progress in deconstructing our previous ideas of G-AAAACK!
Stop being such a smartass and actually help normies for once. 
>projecting
yeah but FUCK YOU!
MIdwigga winner.. winnered.. winned..
Tard-off ITT
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>120 IQ NEET (debatable, he never took a test), arguing with the gay furry femboy on why he needs to contribute more to society when he doesn't contribute to society himself.
>>30279
midwiggas:
>imma need a source for that non-empirical claim
>ad hominem is a valid fallacy because it is ok?
>appeal to authority is valid when the professional is *relevant* (its only probabilistic)
>tabula rasa is valid because i wanna believe that everyone is intrinsically equal
>correcting superficial errors in an argument that dont change the arguments form inherently disproves the argument

Intellinigger win


Midwigga:
>grew up in a rich household
>went to college
>graduated with a degree in colonialistic gender studies for the detransmasculinization of the youth
>gets a job at starbucks
>becomes antitheist because obviously their shitty life is God's doing

Intellinigger win
>>30285
oh i finna contribute all right midwigga
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>>30286
>grew up in a rich household
>went to college
>graduated with a degree in SNCA, literally.
>gets a job at starbucks despite college degrees lmao.
>becomes antitheist because intellinigger isn't socially intelligent enough to believe anything and will buckle under any pressure "damn... ig ur right..."
Intelliniggers do this and they lose.

You also do all of this:
>imma need a source for that non-empirical claim
>ad hominem is a valid fallacy because it is ok?
>appeal to authority is valid when the professional is *relevant* (its only probabilistic)
>tabula rasa is valid because i wanna believe that everyone is intrinsically equal
>correcting superficial errors in an argument that dont change the arguments form inherently disproves the argument
>>30287
Great, start by cleaning up your streets and dealing with homeless people and drug addicts, or are you too scawed and need to go to colleg to babble about SNCA for your job, you'll even get a degree in it but it'll be absolutely useless on your McDonalds job application.
>>30289
>You also do all of this:
lmao like 7 years ago when I was at your level of intellectual maturity

>graduated with a degree in SNCA, literally
ugh its snca in ur opinion cuz u think pharmacotherapy is useless or smth

>Great, start by cleaning up your streets and dealing with homeless people and drug addicts, or are you too scawed and need to go to colleg to babble about SNCA for your job, you'll even get a degree in it but it'll be absolutely useless on your McDonalds job application.
im not gonna need that mcdonalds application cuz imma also have to deal with retiggas all day at my job but instead of minimum wage and making people fatter, it'll be six figures and helping bring people back to homeostasis and therefore improve longevity
we deal with drug addicts in the pharmacy too ya know
>>30291
>helping bring people back to homeostasis and therefore improve longevity
Great so you're going for the things that can only help the higher class of society and not tend to the needs of every day people. listen you could argue that therapy is important but quite literally all of that shit is a scam. 
>>30292
Yeah by giving them more drugs
Next.
I also hate vetinarians they overcharge so much, greedy fuckers.
>>30293
>Yeah by giving them more drugs
methodone/dolophine(tm) is used to wean opioid addicts off of drugs, so they can live their lives, because if we didnt wean them off of it they'd fucking die from their physical dependence

>Great so you're going for the things that can only help the higher class of society and not tend to the needs of every day people. listen you could argue that therapy is important but quite literally all of that shit is a scam. 
here in America there are free healthcare and insurance systems. only like 10% of the american population is uninsured lol
>>30294
fair ngl
>>30295
Nothing you say can make me trust big pharma, especially not with what they did during covid, also everything in America is cheap if you just accept the fact that you're gonna live with a shit ton of debt you know you won't pay off, as if that makes any sense whatsoever. 
>Oh yeah I'll just get student loans, will I pay off the debt? No.
>>30297
>will I pay off the debt?
given that pharmacists fresh out of college usually start with a six-figure salary, yes i will very easily especially if im living on my own

>Nothing you say can make me trust big pharma
if u say so. ill believe you and won't elaborate. (i dont trust them either lol)
>>30298
If we somehow manage to know eachother for however long it takes for you to get those degrees then I wanna see if you'll get that six figure pharmacy goy control job. Not everyone getting hired o algx.
>>30299
But it's fine if you do get that mcdonalds job also. Idk I just wanna see the outcome.
YOU SLF GET THAT DEGREE FASTER BOY.
>>30299
only about 200-300 student pharmacists graduate in my state each year. theres plenty of space and the space is only growing since pharmacy is a very high demand field rn
>>30301
It is? What they need more people to stand behind counters and perscribe people with drugs?
>>>30274my guy that is NOT your father /j
>do u mean mensa norway?
>also if he got question 6 wrong i think u should just give up honestly

he did, he selected A
>>30303
are you kidding me
no offense but this just pmo sb
i dont think u should try another test if he got that wrong
im not trying to be mean to any capacity when i say that
>>30304
I also do not like arguing with him. he cannot understand my position. when I say that money is not to be an ultimate end, he assumes I don't care about money.
>>30305
wdym
>>30307
u asked if there were any other tests other than that one so i said "dont even try"
>>30306
its hard to argue with ppl that dont understand the thought process behind your position
>>30306
>he assumes I don't care about money
ugh A and E are not a binary negation relationship
>>30308
oh, but why? can't think of a reason for that
>>30312
cant think of a reason for what? why u shouldnt try further?
if he didnt understand that question then I don;t think hes gonna understand how to take the mensa switzerland test because its all in swiss
its easy to infer how to take it but i feel like he wouldnt understand based off the limited information I have
>If your god (which everything is contingent upon) can simply enter this world and change the temporal/causal succession (as in make things be other than they were) then this poses a deadly epistemic and metaphysical issue, as causality itself is being disrupted from a non causal entity, which collapses the nomic web of temporal succession which destroys mathematical and logical and physically symmetry, collapses time symmetry, inferential symmetry and not only that it also destroys the soundness of deductive logic itself, meaning that maths and necessary truths are inductively verified instead of deductively which is impossible.

logic is not changed by God's intervention, to which deduction relies on. if some entity not contingent on the casual properties of the universe influences it, it does not change the casual laws objects abide to. it only has to be absolute with the exception of God's miracles for they can be identified.
>>30313
I thought you were referring to me gek
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ok i reexamined the argument and its just equivocation between a physical succession and an epistemic succession. theyre not the same and this guy is saying that a disruption in the temporal succession of physical objects simultaneously disrupts the succession within mathematics and logics. they are not the same, so this is just a leap in logic geg

but it would also depend on whether or not you think that maths and logic are properties contingent upon the universe itself or not. I would argue that the ability to apply maths and logic is contingent upon the universe, BUT the truths themselves are independent. Just because nothing exists doesn't mean tautology is invalid. Also logic isn't necessarily an experience that other conscious entities experience unlike time, so that kinda substantiates the Platonic view of maths and logics.
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these are the assumptions chatgpt spotted - these can be changed
>>30317
me when I equivocate metaphysics and epistemology:
and I think the deadly mistake here is assuming that God's intervention of the universe breaks the chain of causal succession. God is a being that could theoretically work around this issue.
>>30321
but isn't the non causality from God the same as the free will from Man? I know i'm not being a Calvinist but
classical theism is too queerphobic for him
any new videos from the gekbvll godlesssnowshoe?
>>30320
i mean it would be *technically* valid i guess, but a shift in the temporal succession just = the universe goes on its way, except something which has broken the laws of nature has occurred. it's the most reasonable to assume that the universe will still follow its laws from this rather than going into a slippery slope as to where 100% holistic conformity is a requirement for the laws of nature to remain consistent; it's an assumption that breaking this causal chain will lead to different laws occurring I guess.

>>30322
I would say its caused by God maybe idk, again God could work around it or something. but as I said earlier, its just a slippery slope and would not reasonably lead to anything bad i dont think (idk its hard to wrap the head around, but the argument is too far stretched). Yet again tho I gotta educate myself on quantum physics, because the universe's causal succession MAY have to be absolute. But then our explanation of God just becomes unfalsifiable, and we ruin the reasoning behind debating it in the first place.

>>30324
yea shes just as lolcow as ever
>i mean it would be *technically* valid what is? is it the argument that I came up with?

>I would say its caused by God maybe idk, again God could work around it or something. but as I said earlier, its just a slippery slope and would not reasonably lead to anything bad i dont think (idk its hard to wrap the head around, but the argument is too far stretched). Yet again tho I gotta educate myself on quantum physics, because the universe's causal succession MAY have to be absolute. But then our explanation of God just becomes unfalsifiable, and we ruin the reasoning behind debating it in the first place.
the non causualty point is weird because muh quantum physics o algo

>yea shes just as lolcow as ever
go look at dragonsnow kiwifarms thread
pls my first response was greentexted
>>30325
Are you the backwards e guy?
>>30328
he is not dobkun, he's nveot
>>30328
im a random that started using this website like 10 days ago if that answers the question
>>30326
sorry i meant what logosdia said - this is what happens when i let my subconscious thought processes take over, i get egocentric ugh

>muh quantum physics
yea we gotta overcomplicate everything. i love it.
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found a forum
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/16209/tranwomen-are-women-transmen-are-men-true-or-false 
I want to be able to deal with troons better
>>30334
im not sure how i feel about those definitions doe
OH WAIT
hes pointing out a nominal fallacy
LOL TRANNIES GOT GEGGED
>>30337
trying to change the axioms of gender so that they make them distinct from sex does nothing
such that a woman who works for the family in a traditional society is somehow a "man"
>>30339
but they are separate. gender is something we made up and its an induction as to where we see the correlations as to how the two phenotypical sexes act, it's a general inductive definition and its not an axiom.

what you could say is that postulating gender to be a real or meaningful thing does nothing

His conclusion is correct, but it doesnt mean that a transwoman is even a real quantifier + its probabilistic and based in identity

ur intuition here was great but what he means is that this is what transgenderism is reduces to this, not that it applies to people whom just "behave differently"

i wonder if anyone pointed out the nuance tho
thats just how I see it. I think a prerequisite for this argument to apply is that the individual doesnt identify with their own sex
>>30340

>ur intuition here was great but what he means is that this is what transgenderism is reduces to this, not that it applies to people whom just "behave differently"
holy cow i needa sleep, this is worded horribly but u know what i mean
i love how the ppl here are mostly respective
>>30344
We respect you, king. You. Are. Valid.
>>30345
zip my pants back up after ur done
(its a joke plz dont dox me)
>>30339
I NEED TO GET INTO THIS FORUM HOW DO U GET AN INVITATION CODE
>>30346
Our friendship won't last long if you behave like this.
>>30348
do u want me to stop with the jokes
>>30347
nvm theres instructions
>>30349
I want you to stop being unloyal to your husband Celantrix.
>>30351
celantrix is a minor so maybe u shouldnt ship us together
>>30352
You two are around the same age though.
>>30353
legally it is what it is
im not going to debate on the morals
just dont plz
do u want me to stop with the sex jokes or not, be upfront
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"im a girl if that helps" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
>>30356
Bars.
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good night
why do imageboards have threads effectively deleted after a certain point instead of putting them in pages? you have the problem of catty wipes. I'd rather be in a forum website at this point.
>>30362
You can archive them, also the catalog can only be so long. 
>waah i dont understand imageboards
Not every thread on the site is meant to be permanent.
>>30363
Archives are publicly available on archive.org and archive.ph
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>You can archive them, also the catalog can only be so long. 
I am aware of that

>>waah i dont understand imageboards
>Not every thread on the site is meant to be permanent.
ok bro
>>30365
Most of us came from soyjak.party, we got used to it, not every website is like Discord or whatever, you know? Sorry, didn't mean to be hostile.
>>30366
fair
gotta blame moot ig
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>>30373
no way it's the Steven Anderson of the new independent fundamental baptists gek
they schismed from the ifbs because he saw them as too moderate o algo
I just spent hours trying to make a forum site for my mother, struggling with packages failing to install only to try a different software solution that somehow just works and not only that it's feature rich as fuck she's gonna love it. How you guys doing o algx.
>>30376
The dopamine from this is intense
When it just fucking works
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>>30377
This is kind of inappropriate but I'll never have sex but the feeling I'm feeling right now is 100x better than that, the amount of features in this random forum software I just downloaded is immense, I followed 1 guide and it just fucking works, as soon as my mother wakes up she's gonna be happy with this, I really did upgrade her from that piece of dogshit forum she was using previously. There's so many features
>>30378
Anyways I learnt a bit more about the mail system, you need to set up a SMTP server and if you cant do that you'll have to sign up to mailchimp or mailgun. It's a bit hard because most servers block off port 25, but I'm sure yours doesn't or something. Good luck with petoria or whatever lol I'll be busy with PARENTCORD HOLY SHIT THERES SO MUCH FEATURES
>>30379
Like I'm out here. Expecting to have to code shit myself.
This forum software however, it just has everything. It has fucking everything.
All that suffering paid off o algx.
>>30379
Gg victory
>>30269
i felt this trvke go off from the opposite side of the planet
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is seder masochism kino foidslop
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WOMEN IN BURQAS?!
>>30387
Did she made anything good recently other than that Revelation adaptation
>>30389
haven't checked yet, probably not tho
she's a terf from what I have seen
I'd usually crash out against leftist propaganda, but Nina paley's works are too good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU-bwwVV_YY[Embed] Frogs
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>>30365
>ok bro
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>>30433
Cringe
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>>30433
>the original song is called loli god's requiem
OYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>30435
Never ever trust tranime.
>>30436
>>30435
Regardless of that I've always found this type of music to be... bad? Overstimulating or... just... bad. All J-Pop sounds the exact same.
>>30438
m-flo was not crap before they started vomiting out EDM and then also switching to generic pop crap after le reunion
>>30435
the lyrics are anti loli
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>>30433
how is he moving like this?
>>30443
years of animation experience
>>30444
it's actually le mmd
>>30445
idk what that is
>>30373
I want to see him say something about "biblically accurate angel fans"
>>30447
wait I think he posted the animation process for this
alr my niggas im free for 30 min whats poppin
>>30524
Doing web hosting stuff, pondering my life choices and wondering why I'm holding off on my game project and if I'm holding off, what am I supposed to be doing o algx
>>30525
whats the game gonna be
>>30526
Halloween game I'm making
ugh why does the fagvali always abandon me /j
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hey celantrix i found this argument on beauty being subjective
i never actually made an argument cuz i was just refuting you but I think this arg is good

"Subjective: dependent on the mind
Objective: independent of the mind
Beauty: a combination of qualities, such as shape, colour, or form, that pleases the aesthetic senses, especially the sight.

Beauty is inherently subjective because it presupposes an observer(which presupposes a mind) for the combination of qualities to satisfy the aesthetic senses. X is only beautiful iff something observes it and it satisfies its aesthetic senses; therefore, beauty is inherently subjective."

this wasnt me so im not gonna debate on it
its saying that beauty is contingent upon perception which presupposes an observer so beauty is mind dependent and therefore subjective
>>30703
oh ok
>>30709
did u go anon on purpose
it seems today
>>30710
I don't want normies to come to this site and cancel me
>>30704
IS THIS AXIOM SHIFTING?!
in all seriousness, I think I shot myself in the foot when I defined beauty as "that which pleases." it's highly intersubjective
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I want to go back to the transgender discussion, so I can formulate an argument against such a postmodernist ideology
i'm also a bit better now at translating ordinary language to propositional logic now, so that helps
>>30719
yea fair

>>30727
it might be, but theyre pretty reasonable definitions

>>30742
yayy. we both needa learn the predicate stuff. im finding it quite difficult but again i dont learn by reading a book
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>>30173
>militaryfag sensibilities
>>30752
cute
also when are u getting ur phone back
>>>30756
>also when are u getting ur phone back
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe on the weekends; I may or may not finish my homework by then
>>30758
bbbut u didnt last weekend :(
also u dont have to quote my questions lol
i'm only on 'cord at most an hour a week at this point gek
>>30761
i dont even do much on it anymore
im gonna start making yt content soon and hopefully my discord server can expand but rn its just me and like 8 friends cuz I dropped everyone that I knew on the 'veri server + there are some other ppl that I don't trust so there were only like a few people i was comfortable inviting to my server. its been fun tho
oh and also trent is in my server btw
yes he has a discord
and I kicked out randumz because hes been a dick recently
>>30767
Gg Trent Horn. why did you let randumz in? he posted the ((( incredible gassy ))) """meme"""
what are the other people in your 'cord server?
>>30777
he was tryna do better but he went back to making sexual comments and shit and I wasnt having it
he tried to act all tuff and was like "yea idc im not changing"

>>30779
aureos, trigger, sixeven, paper, turboprop, and ray
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>>30752
I also wanted to be a navy SEAL at one point after reading david goggins, so
>>30781
kino. why is vufio out?
>>30786
hes on break, he didnt wanna be in the server cuz it wud distract him

anyways in gonna be off till like 7pm
lata
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>>30781
>sixseven
>>30752
le intergalactic warrior
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thoughts?
i think someone is being very egocentric and emotional here
looking at these debates on the Based Atheism server is infuriating me to no end
>>30835
whoops apologies for taking a nap.
yeah this guy reeks of theological illiteracy. I buy into the idea of unrepentant sinners approaching ontological non-being as they reject Christs's love
>>30876
hai im back
bbbut yyyour GGGod hates mmme
>>30877
not with the self-depreciating humor pls. what's causing you to lose faith?
>>30878
i was joking and I wasnt serious
i was mocking the nigga in the screenshot
whats making me lose faith is probably myself ngl, but my faith has reached a trough a.k.a. it hasnt been going down and it will hopefuy get back up

altho smth serious has been happening to me recently but idk if i wanna mention it on a public thread
ugh i hate neing an anon
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>>30879
oof that's not food for the last line
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>>30880
it's obvious that this was you
>>30881
again this is y i wish we had private dms cuz this just isnt shit im gonna say in public
and yea its not good
anyways whats up with the spoons

>>30882
it has nothing to do with that, but yea i knew everyone could infer it was me. i was following u with the anon thing but it got boring
also whaaaaaaaaaat averi foo has a dark mode???
I HATE reading textbooks with a BURNING PASSION
half of it is incomprehensible niggerblabble, 45% is taught in the lectures, and teh last 5% is what actually matters for the exam and is the only reason you have to buy and read the entire fucking book so u dont fail the class
ugh
>>30885
go to settings and set theme to iwakura; there's so many
anyways I had to memorize 34 sugars and quickly learn how to transform each of them into their ring forms
I hate how we have to know the useless information that pertains to all of it as well
each sugar has a D and L form and I had to memorize the structures of glyceraldehyde, erythrose, threose, ribose, arabinose, xylose, altose, glucose, mannose, galactose, talose, dihydroxyacetone, erythrulose, ribulose, xyluose, fructose, and sorbose
seven of these can turn into rings including glucose and fructose
>>30888
I probably will not take chemistry in high school kfjghsdfghslbs
>>30888
can you make estrogen
>>30889
chemistry is legally required in my states hs curriculum
>>30890
not yet lol
>>30892
cant wait bbgirl <3
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>>30893
nobody is trooning out nigga
estrogens like premarin and estrace are used for old hags that are going thru menopause
>>30894
yes there is
the T is a different category from the LGB
>>30894
They lowkey hijacked the rainbow religion and made it the axewound atrocity 💀
>>30895
u r trooning out. (if conversion therapy doesnt work)
>>30897
no im not igguh
u never will
trooning is not based
i* oml sorry
>>30898
>>30899
Xhe's getting embarassed... 😳
>>30900
oh no....
>>30900
imma take androgel and premarin at the same time and maybe ill become a third gender
troon logic
>>30901
nooioooooooo
>>30903
If you troon out you can become a woman and then marry celantrix cus then it wouldn't be gay and the bible doesn't say anything bad about being trans.
Infact, Eve was made from Adam's rib... sooooooo
>>30902
No way you are a brave warrior fighting queerphobia
>>30905
Xhe's going to be the perfect tgirl 4 u... 😊
>>30904
it would still be gay because I would still be a man by all objective means. my hormones are not my objective gender (sex)

also still why r u shipping a minor this is cringe
>>30905
if they werent pedophiles then they wouldnt get so mad when u told them to leave the kids alone
>also still why r u shipping a minor this is cringe

LACHGOY EXPOSED
>>30908
b-but the children are questioning their gender identity! *shifts the axioms of gender*
>>30907
Gender is js a social construct tho, or something like that... 😇 js wait until our BELOVED HECKING SCIENTISTS and PHARMACISTS make advancements to make the t-girl genetalia not a rotting smelling pinworm infested scar wound that smells like poop and has to be dilated constantly. Erm.. Trust the science! 😷
>>30910
Errrmmm there is nothing wrong with teaching our kids about gender identity.. or something... TRUST THE SCIENCE GOYIM 🌈👨‍⚕
>>30910
its "bbbut" get it right fagvali
anyways children questioning their gender identity doesnt justify letting them preemptively castrate themselves just because they *may* be trans. that is objectively abuse, and it doesnt matter if the number of kids that this happens to is 1 or 100000, it should be zero.
>>30912
Since I'm playing devils advocate today (boredom and burnout) I will argue that actually we should let retarded kids troon themselves out, it's naturaly selection or something.
>>30914
We should also stop hating jews and all become golems.
Shalom niggers it is I lachlanberg arised from the gas chambers or something 🇮🇱
>>30911
bbbut science says that your role in sexual reproduction is expressed through chromosomal structure and ur just being an evolutionary embarrassment by deviating from that

and no, screeching "naturalist fallacy" doesnt refute what I said
>>30916
Naturalist fallacy.
It refutes what you said.
>>30917
muh gilloutine

moral naturalism lost
is godless snowshoe a moral naturalist
>>30916
>bbbut science says that your role in sexual reproduction...
Science is wrong then. My feewings matter more.
>wdym I thought science was never wrong
SHUT UP KYS KYS KYS KYS REEEE
>>30914
if we are to argue that the sufferring of all people ought to be minimized, then this shouldnt be the case since being trans is not exactly inheritable
>>30919
what does that mean
shes a noncognitivist for sure
>>30918
hume being useful for the one and only time in his life:
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>>30921
The suffering of all people is not to be minimized, it should be let up to nature
>lachgoy 5 seconds after saying this experiencing the most excrutiating pain in his life after making a joke on his dnb cord website
>>30922
moral naturalism is the idea that morality can be defined through the natural world. it is advocated by Aristotle somehow
>>30925
it can be to an extent but only as a moralistic axiom, however it leads to some back takes
>>30924
This is one of the coolest practical effects used in that movie o algo
>>30926
also they're all non sequiturs. I also don't think natural law equates to moral naturalism
>>30925
and yea snowshoe agrees with the axiom that morals are prescribed through evolutionary interest i.e. we ought to act moral for the survival or our slecies
>>30928
theyre not nonsequitirs if thats what morals are based on
>>30929
then why is she supporting Palestine? she is inconsistent and philosophically illiterate. she and exquefonte should strive to think alike
>>30931
because she bases her beliefs in what those with her similar political beliefs say lol
shes a sheep; a cog in the system
>>30932
Just like you.
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>>30933
there are different versions of this attribute
there are people who do it blindly and there are people who do it willingly (like me) because I think its in my best interest to conform as long as I am not forced to do something that I think is wrong
>>30935
I hate to see a sperg who conforms.
Stop doing that.
>>30936
hey it's called practicing metacognition and trusting what culture interprets the bible
>>30936
what exactly about consciously conforming is so bad? I have no power to have an influence on the system, I have faith that God's plans will carry out, and I think that its my deontological obligation to follow the morals which we as a society accept to be true.
>>30937
based
ugh im tireeeeeeeeeeeed
>then go to sleep
bbbut my friends
>>30939
there are times when I arrive at the conclusion that trans people are the gender they proclaim, but I distrust such an unstable nature of human rationality
>>30938
You're not true to yourself, you do what others ask of you, you act one way in private, but conform in public. You're a faker. You'll come here and say nigger and faggot and ask "uhhh is it okay?" next thing you know, you'll try and gauge whether or not it's okay for you to believe certain things in certain places. You're a faker. Sometimes you need to accept that you're going to piss some people off, there is no avoiding that, you cannot make everyone happy, there is no argument that could possibly justify you being such a fakey faker. 

Stop talking about conforming to society, stop praising it, it doesn't even exist, you need to truly find yourself, believe things set in stone and don't take no for an answer. If someone tells you to stop saying something, say it even more, even if it gets you banned, even if people block you. You need to be your true self, we need to stop "I can't say this because it's offensive" or "I can't believe this in public".

I know a lot of this would sound weird but I'm not asking you to break the rules of my website, I'm not even asking you to break the rules of any website or discord server, I just want you to hold the things true to yourself, so even if you have to conform, you should let other people know that you're doing it because you have no other choice. 

Be openly right wing, have opinions others would consider controversail, take off the chains you apply on yourself just so people will be okay with you, it's not worth it, you need to be yourself, otherwise you'll continue to be a cog in the machine, a sperg with potential crushed by everyone else moaning and whining about what you can and can't say and can and can't act, fuck them, they can go KILL THEMSELVES for all I care. Be openly transphobic, if anyone says "You can't say that!" tell them to kill themself, nigga.
>>30941
i attack the validity of the idea of gender itself
if its smth that is entirely subjective and made up by humans, then it might as well not exist. I could come along abd makr uo some other shit like "I identify as this blood tyoe and I wand blood transfusions NOW" and from this logic I can just engage in assisted suicide.

its retarded and its circular reasoning, just like reproduction in my metaphysical views of human life; it doesnt have to exist in the first place so why does it exist at all?
>>30943
ok that's smart; I should go back to using the reductios I came up with back when you were steelmanning a pro transgender position
>>30942
>>30938
I used to be like you and it pissed me off, it's why I don't use Discord anymore, I cannot handle changing my personality to suit everyone. I hate faggots and trannies and niggers and I hate furries and I have right wing beliefs and I am a nevergooner and I hold a lot of prejudice against those people and if I see them, I will let them know that I hate them, but they cannot handle that, they have to ban me and everyone goes on this annoying stupid retarded rant about how I shouldn't be allowed to express myself and my feelings because it's "hate speech"

They need to die en masse. Gay as fuck ahh people that control "society"
>>30942
by conform I mean in life a.k.a. I do what is common like going to college, getting a good job, having a family, etc. I dont care if thats a "normie" thing because its what I want to do with my life.
I have found myself in Jesus btw.
and im open about.controversial opinions i have but sometimes in this society its smart to stay quiet UNTIL.your life wont get immediately ruined once you open your mouth
sometimes being different is the wrong move
>>30942
I don't think you actually understand him. He is not conforming to whatever community he is in. He has a consistent ethical framework.
>>30947
That vufio screenshot still pisses me off and thats why I said that
>>30946
That's gay as fuck also, but thats just my opinion because I do not conform to any of those things, because I do not need to.
Being a normie is cringe I hate normies unironically, especially the ones that brag about being a normie, nobody cares.
>>30948
ngl i barely like him.anymore and i only stay because he sees me as his best friend
hes part of the unfalsifiable denomination btvv (catholic) so it makes sense that he has these shitty views
no cathplic hate btw i just think its u falsifiable nature makes them think that theyre unstoppable in a dialectic and it pmo cuz their arguments from miracles are just begging the question and their ad hocs are fallacious
>>30951
I hate people like him but cannot control your life so it's up to you and I understand but if I was stuck in that situation it would feel like walking on eggshells around everyone, and I am a very emotionally explosive person sometimes I fucking hate that.

Honestly a good day can go bad for me the moment anyone starts acting entitled and telling me to start acting differently. It's those stupid fucking troon nigger monkeys who always say shit like "You can't say that you can't say that!" and it's been going on ever since school. I'm so tired of being told that I can't say what I want to say, and now that's over, I've realized society is a load of horse shit, and I get to finally be myself, a NEET chud.

Society people are pozzed compromised NPCs.
>>30952
does aureos repeat the same thing?
I cannot control your life, maybe I could influence it, but if you ever get tired of those people and if you ever get tired of being a zogbot android, you'll know what to do.
Tism was made to disobey authority, use it.
>>30954
when i asked him.about catholicism he gave more reasonable responses unlike vufio and serpente. their descriptions esxalate into catholicism being unfalsifiable which means that their version of the denomination exists in a vaccum since nothing can disprove it by definition, which is not how the game works
and unfalsifiability is different from it being "correct"
>>30957
ok how is he this mature? he also seems less rude about his views unlike vufio and let alone serpente
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>>30960
Lowkey my autism hyperfixated on the colour turquoise, it activates something in me.
>>30959
he identifies as a genius or something
quick yall, we gotta get on this liguistic prescriptivism bs because its clearly working with aureos
and yea vufio isnt very nice about his views there. when I debated him on Mary being sacred, he literally got pissed off at me for JUST DEBATING ABOUT IT because I was making it seem like Mary was just a whore, simply for SUGGESTING that she may not be Holy.
smfho
>>30962
what do you mean by linguistic prescriptivism? and what do you mean it's "working"?
>>30963
it was a joke
linguistic prescriptivism is.like the premise that ur gender is what u say it is
i said its working cuz i asserted that aureos identifies as a genius and it seems to have translated into reality for him
again it was sarcasm
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>>30960
these 5 towers are far too iconic for me
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btw vufio said this to me when I immediately understood and analyzed an abstract idea about relativity

i think he got jealous and just started insilting me
>>30964
oh. so he thinks that you think he is a genius?
>>30967
no
i was making a joke that isnt based in realitt
>>30966
"are you smoking" was peak antiintellectualism
>>30966
vufio when ethical relativism: 🥰
vufio when metaphysical relativism: 🤬
>>30969
hes just really socially aware and very down tk eartn
also if u didnt know, hes 6' 6". so hes a big friendly giant
>>30972
very tall just like the corning tower
probably has a lot of irl friends if he acts like this
>>30973
the ppl in europe are so tall
if i was born in the netherlands I would be a laughing stock. even my 6' brother would be kinda short
>>30974
Never trust anyone who has a lot of friends.
>>30975
it's the opposite for cambodia; average height is 5'3
>>30976
the human mind can only handle about 150 friendships
>>30977
Asia momemt
>>30978
That's probably not even true btw.
4' above average in the netherlands is like 66 or 67
>>30980
idk
>>30978
I do hate how people on Roblox were begging about having a feature where you can have more than 200 friends. why settle for such shallow relationships?
>>30983
Roblox should NOT have a friends feature at all.
>>30984
Not even "connections"
>>30981
i.was always the shortest guy in the youth groio at my dutch church. the average guy there is 6'1 abd most of them are.above 5'11
>>30983
cuz "the more the merrier" or smth
>>30984
>>30985
I think it's fine to play roblox with someone you know outside of it but it's wrong to make friends in roblox.
>>30987
the death of qualitative thinking
>>30986
when I was in 12th grade I was the 2nd shortest guy, and the shortest guy is now taller than me cuz he was a freshman. yes the other freshman were taller than me still

i swear God just maxxed out a few of my stats then gust gave my other stats the leftover crumbs
>>30988
the "friendships" in roblox usually tend  to be extremely shallow. if you lose interest in the game played, the relationship is effectively severed.
>>30991
Yeah. 
It's the same on Steam, people send me random friend requests and absolutely nothing happens they dont talk to you or nothing, people on steam just have 10000 friends for no reason.
hey lachy how tall r u
>>30992
But I've been keeping my friends list to people I actually care about on platforms where the friends list is a feature, so I don't have this issue anymore.
>>30993
Datamining.
>>30994
ugh
>>30995
How tall are you, kitten?
>>30996
173 cm
yes laugh at me
>>30997
Why would anyone laugh at you literally who cares nigga
>>30990
I'd rather have high iq if it means being shorter if i'm honest. people like to frame being gifted as highly burdensome, and while it's true to some extent, i'm grateful that I can view the world in more nuanced ways.
>>30999
High IQ is genuinely useless.
>>30998
cuz 183 cm or smth (6 ft)
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>High IQ is genuinely useless.
>>31000
high IQ literally makes life easier
u can make inferences faster, have better memory, learn easier, can get better jobs, have better PROBLEM SOLVING (which is what IQ literally measures), etc.
hey at least it makes school easier and you get better at what you do more quickly
>>31001
What's with the height obsession, what is it good for.
>>31002
Ravens and Crows show a wide range of puzzle solving intelligence, they do not have the ability to take IQ tests, atleast not unless food is involved in some way, which imo would greatly put into question the "IQ"
>>30999
idk man I would be fine with 115 IQ if it meant I could be happy and not have to have this mindset of thinking pleasure and happiness are useless
its dedilitating at times
>>31005
idk reproduction
i just have developed this mindset that i cannot be considered conventionally masculine given my height
>>31005
>What's with the height obsession, what is it good for.
nothing really, it's funny how black pill people obsess over height
>>31008
and shoe companies that basically scam them
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>>31004
No it doesn't.
I didn't pursue higher education and life is pretty easy for me I'd say. I don't know and don't care if I have high IQ, and fact of the matter is that school or job != success. 
>>31008
>>31007
>>31006
Pleasure and happiness is good for you, you overwork yourself for nothing. Your education years will be short, your career will stagnate eventually. Height is a worthless obsession, there are no advantages or disadvantages other than really small people look really funny and really big people cant fit into normal sized doors and cars etc.
>>31006
i mean the perks are great but ots hard to be hapoy ya know
Obsessing over high IQ is useless also, average or slightly above average is good enough. IQ needs to be worried about when you have 70 or below.
>>31010
its called a general statisticm your anecdotal experience does not disprove something which is statistically true for the general population. do u understand the difference between a correlation vs. a cause and effect relationship?

and I still dont think pleasure and happiness are valuable. yes they feel good but it just gets in the way cuz u wanna feel good all the time but thats not feasible in life
>>31012
And yet
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>>31006
I mean, it would highly depend on what source happiness comes from for me. when it comes after I do something good like coming home after a workout, I just feel happy. it's pointless to chase it directly though, but I don't really mind having a neutral mood most of the time.
>>31013
Never trust statistics, I'm serious.
>and I still dont think pleasure and happiness are valuable
Actual zogbot, holy shit.
No wonder you want to kill yourself and take anti-depressants. Be happy for once, please.
>>31017
i didnt say that i dont feel happiness
>>31014
aren't intellectually disabled people more likely to have high conscientiousness? I'd be jealous then
i said that i dont really want to because i think its useless. if i never feel happy then i dont k ow what im missing out on, and therefore tbe lack of happiness wouldnt translate into sadness.
>>31019
i think
>>31018
Pursue your own happiness and fulfillment, it can work, if you don't do this, there is genuinely no reason to live, if you are not happy. Happiness is valuable, it's why people live. It's why I live, if I was never happy, I would just kill myself, and sometimes I am not happy, and when I am not happy, I get very upset, but sometimes those depressive phases clear up, and I continue to live because I live for moments of happiness, joy, excitement and accomplishment.

Do not be a zogbot.
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>>31022
ugh ion wanna get into muh atheistic-dependent-nihilism
>>31022
I have guilty pleasure fantasizing about being an avali sometimes
remember that im chemically imbalanced which impacts my very ability to be happy
im a zogbot somewhat outside of my own accord
>>31020
>>31024
Stop being a nihilist. You're better than that.
>nooo im not.. im uselss... 
I can't be your boyfriend, and you're not a woman, you need to do some deep introspection.
>>31025
troon logic
>>31025
I have never done this, you people are a tad bit weird.
>>31028
Agreed
>>31027
i literally wasnt going to start begging for emotional support from an autism stranger on the net
>>31026
I don't believe you are chemically imbalanced.
Have you been diagnosed or tested, or is this just what you believe?
>>31030
We all need emotional support though.
>>31022
for me, it's self-actualization. I want to be able to use my advantages to reach my potential on at least one domain, whether it'd be art or stem, etc. Happiness would be a byproduct of this, but my worldview is much more achievement-oriented.
>>31031
ive had talks with professionals + I know how my life and how ive felt has changed over time and I can tell you rn that ive felt like shit for a very very long time even tho Im an active person
if i got tested them they would put me on drugs. by mosus tollens the answer is obviously no but I can barely feel happy even if I try
>>31033
I have realized that thinking about life in the long-term constantly will make you either extremely depressed or insane. Life is about the short-term mundane day-to-day decisions, and just surviving, nothing more. So keep drawing, get better at art, I wanna see you make some cool avalis o algx. I like creative people more than "intelligent" people imo.
>>31034
>ive had talks with professionals
In real life or the internet?
>I know how my life and how ive felt has changed over time and I can tell you rn that ive felt like shit for a very very long time
I believe you don't know what you're talking about. You do not have a chemical imbalance, if you do, you should get it tested. You can say no to the drugs.
>>31036
Doctors legally can't force you to take medication for shit.
Be wary, it is "I have a chemical imbalance" that troons believe they should make bad life decisions, and not via genuine tests, but by self-diagnoses.
i was going to get some actual therapy when I was 15 but we never proceeded
>>31036
irl ofc nigga
if they tested me they would strongly e courage it and I would know that its a good short term solution to help with giving me that boost to make the proper changes to my life that would help me overall. Also back then my parents would have made me do it and I woild have obliged.
anyways i think you dont understand that i analyze my life and how things about me and how I feel have changed even though nothing else about my life has changed for better nor for worse. something is wrong with me and im too scared to find out
>>31038
thats not nearly the same thing. troons do it to bring their body away from.homeostatsis. they literally use the drugs form purposes opposite of therapy
>i was going to get some actual therapy when I was 15 but we never proceeded
Therapy is a major scam.
>if they tested me they would strongly e courage it 
1. How do you know this?
2. Well then say no.
>anyways i think you dont understand that i analyze my life and how things about me and how I feel have changed
You're young and naive, you don't have a chemical imbalance. Trust me, you will grow out of this.
>>31041
because thats how theraputic recommendations work and I would have trusted them. at thiw point in tiem i would debate it down to something very short term.

as for that last oart, yea you just proved me right and im going to continue using my own observations because I know myself better than you do
im not saying this for attention. ive genuinely looked into myself on this regard.
>>31042
High IQ, supposedly got "good puzzle solving abilities"
And yet you can't even solve your own problems efficiently, but I can. Listen, I don't know and don't really care how smart I am, but maybe you should spend more time thinking. I hope you do, it might help you see what works best.
>>31043
it always goes back to the IQ thing even tho I mentioned it like once

i already spend so much time thinking and it makes me want to cut myself especially when I wake up in the mornings devoid of any feeling within myself. perhaps the problem is that I dont, in actuality, want the problem solved in my subconscious. mahbe my mind is so devoid of attentiom and human interation that it desires that cry for help to feel like I matter to other people.
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>>31023
i took one of these in high school and got bottom 2% agreeableness geg
>>31046
You talk about IQ constantly, like you think you're better than everyone else.
>>31046
>i already spend so much time thinking and it makes me want to cut myself
Seriously? You should draw something, doesn't have to look good. Get a hobby, become happy. Put your feelings somewhere.
The subconcious is very hard to communicate with, It's like a second person, in my opinion. But not impossible. Sometimes we agree on the same thing, sometimes I have to tell it to shut up. Learn to tell your subconcious to shut up.
>>31048
im talking about my own IQ. I barely ever mention it because its usually irrelevant, and I try to only talk about it with celantrix cuz we IQ larp o algx
i dont think im better than other people. my precondition doesnt make me better than others. it gives me a sense of superiority at times but i know that its only superficial and ultimately meaningless.
i really only mention it when talking about midwits because theyre so annoying
>>31050
Or maybe it's the other way around?
>>31049
yes, seriously. and nothing interests me anymore. i literally stopped playing videogames 3 months ago because i dont find joy in it
>>31051
The IQ stuff comes across as a tad bit pathetic, I don't think you're smart, to be honest. 
>>31055
Same, but that's because videogames and random goytube videos are boring, I had to move on and find something more fulfilling, and I often do. Even if I get burnt out, I'm not depressed, I just find other things to help. I have goals and those goals give me purpose and I'm a very creative person, and this is a very creative website.

I would like to suggest you stop encouraging your own downfall, nihilism will lead you basically nowhere, try to step out of that doom zone or else you'll stay mopey. You don't have the guts to kill yourself.
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>>31057
i dont really care what u think. ive acted like an idiot here mostly and my flaws are visible.
i know that the iq shit is pathetic but as ive said before i dont find any worth in myself beyond some number thats merely statistical
and the depression really only.escalated recently and as i said it was for really no reason. at all which is why I think its beyond my own behaviors etc. it has really molded some of my views. im trying to get out of the trenches and ive been trying for a while, but I get paralysis and I have low motivation to start. its a part of ADHD (and yes I am diagmosed with it): I find myself literally incapable of doing things that I don't wanna do at times.
>>31061
Why are gay people like this?
>>31062
breh
>>31061
>>31063
Sorry.
There's not much more I can say anymore. I want to help, I really do.
>>31064
No matter what he says though, I know he's gonna be fine. Perhaps I know myself more than he knows himself, and I know that certain things are not at all what they seem.
>>31064
im trying but recently ive been having thoughts that almost feel like voices telling me to cut myself with my plastic knives and its arising from my feelings of being overwhelmed by school and frustrations with my declining memory.

>>31065
i myself know that everything is going to be fine. im too much of a pussy to kill myself + homeostasis always finds its way
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>>31067
>telling me to cut myself 
>with my plastic knives
>the voices
>>31068
ok nigga this is serious
i domt have real knives in my dorm. those are the sharpest things i have
ya know what never fucking mind in talking with aureos about it tomorrow
he is better emotional support and he may actually give me a hand to hold on tk
>>31069
Yeah okay nigga, cut yourself with a fucking plastic knife, you gay edgelord.
I would tell you how to do it right, but I don't want you to hurt yourself.
If you haven't done that yet, you'll get some pretty nasty scars that you'll be ashamed of for a little while, but you'll get over it. If you do it though, just don't cut vertically, you'll probably die, or something.
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>>31070
I can't stop laughing, high IQ and that's all you could come up with.
A plastic knife...
>>31055
video games are empty entertainment, it's not a bad thing if you don't find joy in them, just means you need something stronger
i don't think that there's such thing as a "chemical imbalance" that makes you sad for no reason, you clearly have an active mind & are struggling with a lack of genuinely transformative mental work that impacts yourself and the people around you
>>31074
Yeah I agree.
>>31071
I've gone through what you're talking or hinting about, and probably a lot more. So, I want to help. Step one of that is gonna be deleting discord and stop consuming any slop media that glorifies depressing topics. Where did you get that idea of cutting yourself from? That's so 13 reasons why trooncore ahh, lets be real. Don't do that, that's gay.
>I'm gay.
Sorry, I didn't mean to.
>>31072
i like that youre tryna discourage me with this but im dead serious that im waking up wanting to harm myself, and the only thing I can do that with in my immediate vicinity is plastic knives. if i was at home i would do it with real knives cuz i have access to them at home
yet again with the iq shit

i know that youre testing me rn and tryna discourage this behavior but i feel like im not being taken serioisly and im just not gonna keep talking about this cuz this didnt solve anything
maybe ill wait until friday when I get home honestly now that you mention it
>>31077
stop with the gay thing
i barely use discord and i only talk to close friends on it
>>31078
Such an edgy nigga. This is lolcow behaviour. I do want to help you and I am taking this seriously, I'm just not giving you the reaction you want, I've been through what you have, and I'm not going to give you the boohoo I'm so sorry for u response. 

Cut that shit out son, genuinely pick yourself up by the bootstraps. You wanna hurt yourself so bad? Go to the fucking gym.
"lololololol he can only cut himself with plastoc knives cuz he was smart enough to not surround his suicidal ass with real knives. oh wait..."
>>31081
Do some exercise, it hurts but it's good for you.
Better than bleeding for no reason, you'll get that shit on your clothes and your parents will question you.
>>31074
and that sort of work is genuinely hard to find, uni keeps you busy but doesn't really address anything spiritual, the only things offering a solution are these harmful alternative traditions which abuse that need for personal development to induct you into deviant sex acts & shiet
i would know, that's why i'm here yelling at lachlan about his website instead of hanging out with my friends geg
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>>31083
Don't hang out with your friends stay with meee pls pls pls plsp lspl s
>>31081
I'm not going to say it. I think I'm happy that you're being edgy in such a shitty way.
>IM GONNA HURT MYSELF, I'M GOING TO DO IT!
>IM GONNA USE THE SPORK!
I have more knowledge about this topic than you do.  Women do also. But you should stop this, it's not impressive. I think you should go to the gym and lift some weights, because it really does hurt, if you're looking for pain.

Otherwise... what are you hurting yourself for?
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>>31083
but i think it helps to realise that there is * always * a war going on that u can fight in, and which has genuine consequences outside of this world unlike gay political LARPing
there are ways to fight demons directly, and you're pretty much obliged to given the state of the world, lest you end up in some evil rabbit hole that tells you to use your fighting energy to destroy yourself
>>31084
it's cool, i'm not going anywhere because i'm "studying for exams" (really just sick of dealing with people outside my microscopic bubble)
>>31082
im getting more physically active but again the motivation thing. i forget about it all the time and it makes my exercise very sporatic.
and about the whole "man-up" sentiment:
ive been doing that for years by ignoring my problems and working through them, working hard and reaching my goals. thats why I'm here at uni as the youngest perso. in my doctorate program, because I worked hard and am already half way to being a pharmacist.
but guess how pushing through and repressing everything for five years has worked out for me? it doesnt work for everybody and I dont care if that makes me "not a real man."
ive been doing it for 5 years and im breaking because its no longer working. ive been like this for years and I was mostly fine (i would say) until recently becauze I cant just hide it anymore.
anyways Im going to bed and talking to another friend tomorrow because I do feel like I need something beyond what is being talked about between us, and it is unachievable through you. I interpret these things in a certain way and it just doesn't help me. Yes I'm not a man for that.
maybe i should make some reminder for exercising idk
>>31096
Not motivated enough to hurt yourself for a good cause but somehow motivated enough to try hurt yourself with a plastic knife.

Listen I don't know exactly what you want but I couldn't jump through your screen to give you a hug and have gay sex with you to calm you down and make you feel like life is worth living. I've tried my best to reach you but honestly the best thing for me to do at this point is probably to stop helping.

And no me saying that doesn't make me gay, I was joking and I'm just pointing out that you're being an attentionwhore, yes I know you need attention but if you don't actually help yourself then people are gonna stop giving you attention.

So that's how I'm gonna help you.
redesign your logo
we know what we're doing
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>>31035
actually, you're somewhat right. living in the long term just causes me to fantasize and daydream.
>>31096
can't really think of anything to tell you man
>>31047
very funny, at least you don't let yourself bend to other people as easily. I try to be consistent with my values, so I hate how my culture glazes people with high agreeableness.
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>>>31096
💀
yea u havent helped and I agree that it subsequently helps me that u ignore me cuz anything that follows isnt going to be genuine. and im not trying to be attention seeking in that connotation. i think ive said about 100 times that feeling better gives me the motivation to do things.

>>31198
ur 16, i wouldnt expect u to have anything to say. im talking with aureos later about it cuz he will make me feel like i matter, and I know thats what I need
>>31205
what do u mean by that
what does cambodian culture like agreeableness for
>>31208
shit i replied to the wrong message
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>>31197
you need to have long-term aspirations, living in the short-term is how u become a zonked out work-drugged screen addict, i don't know what kind of crack lachlan is smoking

>>31208
this nigga is sixteen? babbyposting
>>31209
i haven't grown up in cambodia. where I live has its school criticize me for being "closed minded," with one of its reasons being that I objected to having what could've been my elective period be replaced by something along the lines of being sped
>>31212
how does having preferences make you closed-minded
nonsequitue
>>31211
yes, I do, but what I had interpreted from him is simply to focus more on what I ought to do to reach those goals than to daydream.
>>31213
it's my school being school. they will criticize you for having consistent values
>>31215
thats how they brainwash you into being a libtard. thats how the medium IQ highCHUDS turn into reddit atheists
>>31213
explaining the concept of a non sequitur to the school counsellor & getting put in ultra sped instead of regular sped
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>>31217
gekk imagine being put with kids with cerebral palsy
I mean that happened to me at elementary school
>>31217
"so you see, non-sequitur is when you have Billy over here who knows that his parents arent home, but he hears clapping in the room next door, and he concludes that his parents are clappin cheecks."
thats how I go one step ahead and get expelled
or if the parents are gay, then I wont because free speech applies in one direction

>>31218
exactly
>>31220
damn
>>31220
are they putting gifted kids in special ed now? was the old method not demoralising enough
>>31218
gen z
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mfw troonjacks on the internet worship me for calling a black man a nigger and moving on with my fucking life when i disagree with someone (try not to be a libtard level impossible)
>>31223
I was a chaotic kid at kindergarten
>>31225
aryan
>>31225
so was i lmaooo but my school just dealt with me anyway and put me in some occasional meeting with a few other students that were "verbally behind in class" (I just refused to do their stupid ass assignments and they thought I was sped)
>>31225
can u quantify how chatoic u were
>>31228
I remember swinging my hand with scissors, opening and closing it, and it caught someone's eye. I felt nothing.
>>31229
psychopath in the making
jk thats just the tism
but maybe...
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IM FUKIN LAUGHING MY ASS OFF AT THIS
the existence of a fallacy doesnt need to be supported by a source. if its an inconsistent or invalid line in reasoning, then its a fallacy
we only name the typical patterns to make it easier
lmaoooooooo
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>>31231
>>31231
why are people like this?
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keep it coming back and
>>31211
>this nigga is sixteen? babbyposting caca
*I'm caca
>>31233
idk its dumbassery

anyways i made a short """""solution""""" to the God rock problem

This problem does not expose a contradiction which would make God impossible - it rather exposes the errors within our logical systems and how they cannot be applied to some being like God by definition. Human logic describes consistent and finite systems; something which is axiomatically infinite cannot be applied to this system.
The dialectic is:
>God either cant create the rock or cant life the rock
the logics could be paraconsistent as in God both can and cannot lift the rock
>both parts are rqually meaningful and God still cabt do something
this would mean that God cannot contradict himself
>but he still cant do something

this then leads to that the answer is indeterminant eith the given information. God is both lifting and not lifting the rock by this logic. With the topic of logic, I'm kinda a logicentheist (idk what the term is lol) I think the logic we understand is a property of God, but theres a bigger picture.
The axioms within our own system make the problem unsolvable.
if God were to make a married bachelor, it would no longer be a bachelor, so our own axioms make the acrion impossible. That doesnt disprove God, that points out the limitations of our systems.
>>31240
my man just abandoned LNC... 
I just say semantic incoherence is outside of omnipotence.
>>31242
No I didn't. Let me elucidate what I mean:
If we use two systems to define person A who has light colored skin:
In system 1, someone with light skin is considered white
In system 2, someone with light akin is considered black

There is no contradiction here, as these are two different systems. However if we were to combine them into one, then there would be a contradiction in all cases leading to logical collapse. The God problem is a loaded question fallacy by assuming that God logic = human logic.
>>30997
Nigger, i'm indonesian and i'm literally (slightly) taller than you HOW
>>31245
because i got the bad dutch genes i guess
idk, I am RIDICULOUSLY short for a Dutch person
>>31244
oh, so you're distinguishing the divine logos with our human reason?
>>31248
ya
>>31246
taller than me ...
i have dutch family and they're all over 6 foot, totally unfair
>>31250
lmao
i'm only 5'7, and i'm taller than everyone in my household
>>31252
5'7 is unheard of for a south east asian, you should talk to guinness world records
>>31252
90th percentile cambodian vs. 10th percentile dutch
>>31252
Same, except for my brother who's almost the same height as me
>>31254
so crazy
i have my own problems, but i won't vent here
>>31259
understandable. also why is ur ID alternating lmao
>>31262
I think it's from alternating WiFi's?
test
yeah its alternating wifis
changed the school wifi back to before I changed
>>31266
oh ok
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Hi you know me for posting about Anti Furries who go after Crimzon to try and stick up for him and shit. Yeah well big news that ruined his life. I’m a horrible girlfriend and I don’t think I can ever make it up to him. He broke up with me for it. He told me that I was riling them up and giving him more reasons to be afraid. He’s scared they’re gonna confront him irl and for a good reason too. I keep pissing them off at the price of him. I was trying to help him by sacrificing my mental health dealing with these jerks. I was too much of an ignorant bitch to realise they were coming after him even more so I was doing this for nothing. It’s all my fault I should’ve never posted shit about these stupid anti furries. I hate that stupid soyjak party website and I just want it deleted and I will do anything in my power to stop people from being harassed by those soyjak-spamming skids. You see I’m a very protective person and I am infamous for sticking up to whoever harms my people and when I do. I STICK UP and that’s fucking terrible because now I just put a bigger target on Crimzon. To think Crimzon could be living a normal life right now if it wasn’t for me. I am a horrible person and I am worse than any anti furry you can think of. I tried to protect him but I failed because I did the opposite. I should’ve known, I should’ve fucking let him ignore the trolls but I didn’t. I wanted to be his personal vigilante and that just fuelled their flames. I’m so sorry. I ruined the only person who liked me’s life and he never even liked me anyways. I’m such an asshole. You don’t have to defend me anymore or claim me. I made everything worse I’m so sorry.
>>31274
gen z speak o algo
>>31276
gand who tf
>>31278
https://crimzons-world.fandom.com/wiki/Crimzon%27s_World_Wiki
this is my top 5 gekbvlls
creating a wiki about yourself is the epitome of autism
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SHE'S FRIENDS WITH QUEEN AURORA?! DOCTOSSSSS
>>31280
https://wiki.averi.foo
>>31281
nigga why are all of these people involved in the af drama interrelated
this is crazy, i didnt know there was so much lore here. also is Ava Cat a guy or a girl I genuinely cannot tell.
>>31281
oh wait is ava cat trans???
>>31284
we are autistic yes
>>31286
I don't know, but probably yes
>>31281
wait what exactly did queen aurora do again?
i know that she hates religion and she made a video whining about thinking her life is meaningless even tho I think she sexually harassed a minor so she deserves no empathy
>>31292
she 'aped a cat
>>31294
i think i recall that she also killed said cat
cmon why do zoophiles go for anything other than a dog. going for a dog is by far the least repulsive zoophilic thing to do.
ts pmo
>>31295
Excuse me what the fuck are you talking about?
>>31297
excuse me i think you butted into a random ass conversation and displayed a lack of context geg
>>31298
All zoophiles are disgusting, sexually harming and abusing dogs is awful.
>>31299
i know. i was asserting that doing it to dogs is the least gross but still horrid and repulsive.
God I might as well just shut the fuck up about things that are intuitive huh
>>31301
There is no ranking scale it's all horrible.
>>31301
Maybe if you know you shouldn't say something you probably shouldn't say it. People admire self restraint.
>>31302
now that we're getting there: there is a ranking scale but it's all vacuous and useless since its all objectively immoral. What I said earlier insinuates that going for a dog as a zoophile is, within the category of zoophilic behaviors only, is more reasonable than anything else given their nature of being so socially similar to humans. If we look at the holistic characteristics of differing species in this context, going for some animals is intuitively more repulsive than others and I'm calling a spade a spade.

>>31303
contradicting what u said earlier about encouraging me to express controversial opinions btw... unless ur suggesting that sometimes conformity, especially in the ethical sense, is productive?
>>31306
There isn't a ranking scale.
>contradicting what u said earlier about encouraging me to express controversial opinions btw
I'm challenging you. Most normal people don't think about this stuff by the way. Is it really that intellectually important for you to consider the morals and ethics of which animal is morally okay to molest over others?
>>31307
I'm not asking you to conform it was a genuine questino.
>>31306
And by that logic wouldn't the most reasonable animal be like a monkey or a dolphin or an elephant or something?
>>31307
>There isn't a ranking scale.
proof by assertion geg
>Is it really that intellectually important for you to consider the morals and ethics of which animal is morally okay to molest over others?
illiterate strawmanning goon; I already said that going for any animal is immoral

>I'm not asking you to conform it was a genuine questino.
ok ill answer the initial question then: I was suggesting that QueenAurora going for a cat was even more repulsive than what other online zoophiles like aluzky and alaskanhuzky do. This is not to undermine the other cases because I still hope they 'ack; the entire point was to say that "x makes this individual case worse."

>>31310
im not talking about genetics or intelligence or that stuff here. I'm talking about what we as humans spend the most time around and have come to be socially similar with.
this is a nothing burger and im tryna study
>>31312
sorry let me reword here: the holistic characteristics as in not any individual characteristic itself makes the case more reasonable. all variables would be considered but the most prominent one would be what we consider to socially be a friend; something we are familiar with and not just something that we know to be "similar to us" without actually interacting with it
>>31314
human perception > objective parameters here
>>31312
K.
>unless ur suggesting that sometimes conformity, especially in the ethical sense, is productive?
Going back to this, you can be anything you want. There will always be consequences, but who... cares..? 
You could be a criminal, I'm not advocating that you should, but I would much rather you be true to yourself even if there are consequences like you getting thrown in jail. Which is why I'll say nigger even if I get arrested by the hecking authorities for not having an N word license.
>>31317
>Going back to this, you can be anything you want. There will always be consequences, but who... cares..?
libchlan
>>31317
so we're just circling back to "there's no objective morals"?
there ought to be inherent consequences to not being a moral person i.e. a criminal. if the person cares not that they will be punished for being a criminal, as in they don't care that their actions harm other people and they don't care about the consequences, then they are delinquent and need to be separated from the remainder of society because they're an inherent threat to the wellbeing of others.
You "can" be anything you want per the semantics that "can" means possible, but is it that you "ought" to be whatever you want? What I just stated suggests not. This is because the affirmative of my ought question leads to traditional ethical collapse per the following argument:
Let the moral axiom: "suffering is bad" be true
If we then allow everyone to be who they wish to be, we then contradict the preceding axiom as people who wish to be murderers, rapids, abusive parents, etc. are not allowed to exist. And it doesn't matter if you don't "advocate for it," you're allowing it in your system here.

you shouldn't be "anything" you want
>>31319
I'm not reading this. 
Be gay and do crime, or something.
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>>31320
>>31320
soygoy repeating a leftist slogan??!! doctos...
>>31325
lachlan went woke and went broke or something
>>31326
Sorry I would have read it if it wasn't so nihilism pilled and reddit pilled so I'll just respond to the last point.
>you shouldn't be "anything" you want
Yeah, you should actually. Nobody can stop you from believing anything.
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>>31328
>so should I murder people?
I mean without murderers and rapists who the police gonna catch
I think people secretly need villains to have some sort of hope to prop up and compare themselves with or have something to fight against, as batshit insane as this post sounds.
>>31328
>im only gonna respond to the last point
the last "point" was the conclusion
ugh
>>31330
Humans live for chaos and that's why Eve ate the apple in the first place, that's why Pandora opened that box.
>>31331
Which is the only thing that really mattered in your whole post.
>>31334
it wasnt. the conclusion followed from the premises. I used a doxastic reductio and u just repeated ur opinion
>trans women are valid!
actually, theres metaphysical and posteriori evidence to suggest otherwise
>trans women are valid!
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>>31335
>doxastic reductio
Nigga this aint harry potter. 💀 🪄
Elegeance Potter and the Imageboard Institution
💀🪄
>>31328
trolling or brain damage? call it
>>31342
Probably both, I'd like to have a normal conversation with him you know but he always coming out with harry potter spells, like he wants to be british so badly he misses the mark completely.
>>31345
Oh.. I just saw you do some axiom shifting and presupposed noncognitivism... get prepared with my DOXASTIC REDUCTIO INFERENCED BY MODUS PONENS!
>>31348
I'm not voldemort blud save it for the deathly hallows 😭
>>31345
i was referring to
>Yeah, you should actually. Nobody can stop you from believing anything.
the rest idc about
>>31352
Whos gonna stop me from believing what I want doe
>>31353
the human condition
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>>31353
"can" and "should" mean different things
>>31355
Reality is only what you make of it, you can be an avali, if you think hard enough.
>>31357
Didnt answer mi question doey...
>>31358
my goat keeps posting trooncore, what is going on rn...
>>31358
but such a cognitive dissonance can never be completely erased
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>>31362
Idk what that means doe
>>31361
Mehh-eh-eh-eh-ehh (they put estrogen in my grass or some shit)
>>31360
i thought u were religious, surely u understand that not all belief systems are equally valid
>>31365
You can still be religious and not understand anything.
>>31367
well you got me there
>>31369
the unknowable essence...
>>31364
it's the mental discomfort of going against your conscience
>>31373
Oh, I don't have that. I just do what I do o algo.
>>31374
how would you feel if you were to force yourself to consume goonslop? it would be an understatement to say that your brain will suffer greatly as you go against your values.
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>>31375
What does this have to do with anything. 
I don't do shit like that. That's gay and cringe.
>>31377
I swear if you can't comprehend a conditional hypothetical
>>31378
A conditional is like when you do programming and you do
if imAwesome {giveme(gem)}

 o algo
>>31377
did this nigga just fail the breakfast question oyyyyyy
>>31381
Whats trhe breakfast questio
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>>31380
Lachgoy is this your mindset?
wait wrong image
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Lachgoy is this your mindset?
>>31383
I wouldnt do anything bad cus its gay and cringe
>>31386
If I didn't eat breakfast or lunch I wouldn't be bothered tbh.
The hypothetical says nothing about dinner, and dinner is the only meal you really need, so I wouldn't be bothered.
>>31388
nvm you can comprehend conditional hypotheticals
>>31390
Do I get a cookie or a golden star
>>31389
>dinner is the only meal you really need
how do people not be eating the nanosecond they wake up
>>31393
Fatty... jk ofc
>>31396
i weigh 120lb
>>31397
How much is that in bananas
You weigh 480 banans?!?!
Meathook Monkey over here...
>>31397
very light; I can lift you easily
>>31398
do UKcels not use imperial? am i finally free from the chains of converting all my measurements on the internet
>>31400
ook ook ook
>>31403
most people can, i'm such a worthless smallcel
ohio ahhh thread

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