harry potter fans in 2025
people DESPERATE in the notes to explain why the way THEY engage with harry potter is morally pure. It's like white people talking about rap music in there! Libraries buy the books! Fanfiction maintains a conversation around the IP! There is NO WAY to enjoy harry potter in 2025 without publicly supporting JK Rowling!
The idea of “but everyone knows that” needs to stop.
I saw a post about someone chiding Millennials for not knowing about JKRowlings transphobia, and asking how it is at all possible that people can exist in the world and the internet and, you know, not know.
Which I mean, I get. It is so present in so many of my online spaces that it seems astounding that someone could simply be ignorant! It feels impossible!
But let me tell you a story:
I went on a girls trip with a bunch of friends. All of us are rather incredibly liberal and all of us are incredibly online.
One girl would not stop talking about Harry Potter.
At one point, another girl asked her why she was ok with supporting it, and she had no real clue that JK Rowling was at all transphobic. She had heard that she likes to support Lesbian causes and thought “oh ok cool!” And that was it. She was AGOG with the news and rather horrified.
I must once again emphasize that she was an incredibly online person. She’s a foodie and a restaurant blogger.
Later in the trip we were picking restaurants and I suggested one I found on Google, and she gasped at me. Actually gasped, asking how I could ever be okay picking that one.
The shock must’ve been on my face, because she then told me all of the shitty things that restaurateur does. He abuses staff. Underpays them. Fires them on a whim. Is known for being one of the worst people to his employees in the entire restaurant business on this coast.
And she was so shocked I had never heard of this. Because in her mind, I was just as online as her. And in her online world, EVERYONE knew about this guy.
So I think the moral of this story is: always approach the other person with some empathy. Even online people, even people you think MUST know about how bad people are, may not have heard. It may truly be just them being on a different sphere of the internet than you.
So be gentle, be kind when letting people know they might not have heard about the cancellation of XYZ person. Don’t assume that everyone knows all the same info as you.
By all means, let them know so they can make informed decisions, but being kind will go a lot further than attacking them for some info they might not know yet.
classmate made a harry potter reference within earshot and i saw this menu appear in front of me
...what were YOU doing at the devil's sacrement....
you mean class? what was i doing at class?
tumblr users’ obsession with self-reporting (especially as a weird form of penance) needs to be studied
you don’t need to tell the world you still like Harry Potter because it’s your comfort movie or because your dad read it to you when you were little or something like that in response to a post about the harm continued monetary support of Harry Potter causes. you don’t need to tell tumblr all the myriad of reasons you don’t like rap under a post about how rap is often misrepresented as ultra-violent or overtly sexual and misogynistic because of racism. No one on tumblr has to know anything about you. no one has to know you still read your old Harry Potter books or that the only rap artist you like is Eminem. No one is going to say “oh of course you’re the One True Good Person with a Good Reason!” when you say that rap is difficult to listen to because of your auditory processing disorder or you’re only a part of the Marauders fandom. Just keep your shit to yourself and don’t embarrass yourself under other peoples’ posts.
ALTHi there! While the joke is (purposefully) unfinished, it was confusing for me, and maybe several others too! The joke here references a bus called the "Down With The Cis" Bus. In the research I've done, this bus is non-existent and is instead made from a post made on Tumblr a while back (image featured below, text as well):
Image Text: "Here's a thing that happened to one of my friends. I was there.
Basically, we were walking down the sidewalk, talking about something meaningless, I think it had to do with a movie. Then this bus screeches up, stops next to us, and a bunch of people with 'Down with Cis' shirts climbed out and started beating him up. I was punched and kicked a bit too, but I managed to avoid brutalization by going for their faces. After figuring out what's happening, I started attacking them back, getting them off of him. He was quite injured but I called 911 and he made a full recovery at the hospital. I was fine, with only a cut on my arm that they patched up.
#cis #trans #cisphobia #incident #violence" End Image Text.
The idea of this "Down with Cis" presents an attack effort being made on cis people by trans people, but is now reclaimed by the trans community to mock both transphobia and the idea of cisphobia (from my understanding of it).
Additionally, Harry Potter's creator is JK Rowling, a woman known for her TERF- Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist- beliefs among other things, which impact her writing. The support of her work has been scrutinized by those of the trans community, due to it's direct funding of her discrimination.
To put it basically, the joke is this fictional 'Down with Cis' bus, which can be assumed to be ran by trans people, is the one targeting people who- are by default- trans exclusionists!
Image Text: “Here’s a
thing that happened to one of
my friends. I was there.
Beep boop! I look for accidental haiku posts. Sometimes I mess up.
I’ve gathered some resources and tips and tricks on self-educating after educational neglect. This is only what I did and what I know helped me. I’m about to graduate college with honors after having no education past the age of 9. I wouldn’t be here without the following. Everything is free, and at/well above the standard for education in the US.
Seconding Khan Academy as a fantastic resource
Khan academy taught me soooooo much math
I’ve gathered some resources and tips and tricks on self-educating after educational neglect. This is only what I did and what I know helped me. I’m about to graduate college with honors after having no education past the age of 9. I wouldn’t be here without the following. Everything is free, and at/well above the standard for education in the US.
Seconding Khan Academy as a fantastic resource
Khan academy taught me soooooo much math
I’ve gathered some resources and tips and tricks on self-educating after educational neglect. This is only what I did and what I know helped me. I’m about to graduate college with honors after having no education past the age of 9. I wouldn’t be here without the following. Everything is free, and at/well above the standard for education in the US.
Seconding Khan Academy as a fantastic resource
Khan academy taught me soooooo much math
Little bit funny how people's dislike of Harry Potter has now lapsed into like complete and total dismissal. The other day I was at a flower show and the theme for the displays at this particular flower show were book themed. And of course an admiring crowd went round and did the circuit of displays, ooh-ing and aah-ing at various renditions of The Railway Children and Little Red Riding Hood and taking photos. All extremely cool. And then they got to the Harry Potter section and there was just a complete blank look on a lot of people's faces. They didn't even comment like with the other displays, they simply walked by giving each other what-the-fuck-is-this shrugs. My sister is getting offered the opportunity to go to Harry Potter World by her college for art purposes this year and she said people were so distinctly unpsyched by even the offer of a very cheap coach trip and abysmally low priced tickets that they were already counting themselves out of the trip months in advance. There are stores with discount Gryffindor lunchboxes and scarves piling up desperately by the masses. Little stickers on them denoting price drops. Some stickers on top of others. Nobody gives a fuck about Harry Potter. It's all terribly exciting. I hope the HBO show is the nail in the coffin and we can finally put this shambolic corpse to a stake through the chest rest
tom felton saying he’s “not attuned” to JKR’s politics (despite the fact that she’s made it her entire personality) fucking loser.
we love you daniel, rupert, and emma!!!
To add, Rupert is barely active on his Instagram, Emma rarely uses her social media except for environmental issues and Daniel Radcliffe doesn’t have a public social media, yet they were all able to make their feelings about JKR’s transphobia loud and clear.
Tom Felton is chronically online compared to the three of them and has made his entire personality “I was Draco Malfoy in Harry Potter”. There’s no way he had no idea what JKR’s politics are.
ok yes all of you can reblog posts about how much you love trans women and see them as women and then you can bash on everyone who bought harry potter merch and thats all great but lets do something to help today. maybe. idk
for uk orgonizations you can donate to the trans legal clinic, or galop, which supports lgbtq+ people who survived domestic abuse, or transactual, which also does legal and medical advocacy. if you are in the uk and youre cis, go out and protest and defend them when you arent the target. see what the trans women in your life need right now and join them doing the work. if you are a trans woman in the uk and have like a paypal or anything, feel free to drop it in the reblogs!
we can all bitch and moan online and sure thats one thing you can do but you gotta do more.
....So, um, does this not freak anyone else out??? Is it just me??? Because like, this sounds like actual hell for all the kids involved. Their entire childhood and teenage years has now been dedicated to filming a (unneeded) reboot of Harry Potter to the point they can't even go to school at any point with this type of school being set up for them and them only, and even then the school stuff is second to filming, being at hours that let's be real, any other kid would be fucking resting and such in, not having to race to do school work because they spent their normal school hours filming.
This is literally actually giving vibes of WB trying to find any loopholes they can to have the kid actors film non-stop to the point it won't be surprising if stuff comes out about behind the scenes some time after the reboot is done with.
Btw before anyone says this is normal on sets with kids, last I heard a-lot of film sets aren't setting up schools for the next decade basically of the kid actors life, they have tutors coming onto set at best to handle the school work with the kid actors and when they done with filming finally, the kids go back to school like normal. This is basically set up to mess up the kid actors chances at education and developing like kids should while in education let alone their chances at socialising outside of fellow child actors and the adult actors around them...all so that a terf can make more money for her bigotry and replace the cast that turned against her.
I’m just saying if Daniel Radcliffe, the literal protagonist of the Harry Potter franchise since the age of ten years old, was able to disavow JK Rowling and move on from the HP universe then actually what the fuck is anyone else’s excuse. There is no one else on the planet who can say their entire childhood was HP more than that guy and he still cared about trans people more than the average tumblr user who says “we’re protesting by making all her characters queer and trans!!” like you can do better. You should do better.
Also to be clear if you put the new Harry Potter show on my dashboard I will be unfollowing and probably blocking you. JK Rowling is responsible for the death and pain of too many trans people to count in my country and I cannot tolerate her new way of trying to gain cultural and financial power in any way shape or form.
I don't even want to see critiques of it. I don't want to see hatewatch reviews about how bad or dumb or racist or transphobic parts of it are like people did for the fantastic beasts movies of the hogwarts video game. You are part of the problem. Do not feed the machine. Let it die. You do not need to consume media you don't like just to show off to everyone else how much you don't like it. It's especially heinous if you say something like "I'm donating the cost of a movie ticket or a month's streaming subscription to a trans charity," because that doesn't balance the scales, it doesn't negate the evil, it just shows you are willing to support both sides, making you a spineless coward.
Just fucking ignore it and understand that it's going to be recationary on purpose. It's going to be full of bait. Warner Bros is counting on there being a ton of controversy to boost the numbers because there's no such thing as bad publicity.
DO NOT ENGAGE. Let it come and go, and maybe the numbers will be bad enough that it gets canceled before it gets to book 7. Probably not, though. This is a tentpole for WB, they're putting all their eggs in this basket, it's not gonna bomb like Morbius. They're gonna push it through to the end no matter what, so just do your part by not playing along.
don’t even pirate it. let it die in obscurity.
I always feel so bad for child actors that get caught up in Internet drama like It's never their fault they're just kids but you know what I mean right
The kids playing the golden trio in that new Harry Potter show (please do not watch that)
The little girl playing Lilo in the live action Lilo and Stitch (also do not watch that)
The kids in the Percy Jackson TV show (I think the show is pretty good considering it's a show based off a book lol)
The girl playing Toph in the live action atla (you will never catch me watching that show)
Hate the show, hate the movie, hate the writers but the kids are just doing what they're told
Happy Pride, even though it’s tough out there. You deserve to be happy and proud, even if you’re closeted/figuring things out/whatever your circumstances are. Fuck the rest!
Yes, we do have to boycott the new Harry Potter show.
gotta be honest I just fundamentally don't get the concept of hatewatching. like sure I've put a dumb movie on during a get together with friends to get silly entertainment out of it. but whenever another disney live action remake or harry potter thing or whatever comes out and I have to see posts on my dash being like "boycott it! if you REALLY have to see how bad it is at least pirate it!!" I'm always like. bitch you live like this? you watch movies you know you'll hate? you take time out of your day - and you have a limited number of days on this earth - to watch a movie you'll hate, when there are so many great movies in the world that you could love? I'll never understand it.
I don't really know if there is a (common) distinct person here. At the top it says "like sure I've put a dumb movie on during a get-together with friends to get silly entertainment out of it", but I think you can end it there, this is all the same behavior. When someone "wants to see how bad it is" they are watching it as silly entertainment. Very often with friends in the room! And other times the friends are online - the person will "live blog" the experience, from texts to discords to posts. Others do that alone, and just...don't see a large distinction between the solo and group activity. They laugh at the bad movie.
It isn't like I don't get this sort of aggrieved, "politicized" fandom hatewatcher being conjured here. I am sure they exist. And when it comes to haters who don't watch the media at all they exist in droves! But the typical person actually watching is not doing so with stone-faced masochism, that is a really small category of person.
I've hatewatched films so that I can better understand the media so that I can tear it apart more accurately. Twilight (2008) is a good example. Because I've seen the material, I can better interact with fans who don't understand why it's problematic.
Same deal with Harry Potter. When my kiddo was young, and getting into HP via peers, I read the books & watched the films so I could explain (carefully) what a little privileged shit Harry Potter was, why the house elves are slaves, the anti-semitic stereotypes... all of that. Luckily she figured it out for herself pretty quick, but I was prepared.
Note that I've never given money to those guys. You can find pirated copies of pretty much anything if you know where to look.
Finally, I've hatewatched stuff not knowing it was a hatewatch until halfway through. Like, there have been Black Mirror episodes where I fucking hated the story but was compelled to see it through to the hideous trainwreck ending. If I'd known ahead of time I would've never booted it up.
But unless it's something I have a good reason to see, I won't subject myself to it. Even as a laugh. People who review media for a living have my sympathies.
ok im going to #seriouspost for a second here. I don't think Harry Potter is a manifesto. I think it was a flawed passion project that millennials latched onto because of the fantasy of sticking it to their mean teachers and arbitrarily categorizing themselves (hogwarts houses; it's the thinking millennial's astrology). I think the fact that the series got popular when and how it did was very much a product of its time.
I don't think Harry Potter is the biggest symbol of JKR's bigotry. I think the most flagrant sign of that was how she responded to critics. I watched her become radicalized in real time. I watched how she doubled down on her racism when she was called out for the ways she promoted her tragically mid fantastic beasts movies. I watched her chase marginalized teenagers with a double digit follower count off of twitter for daring to criticize her thought process, and no one with any kind of power standing against her because she was the one who was paying them. This isn't to say Harry Potter is without flaws. This is to say she really didn't give a shit about that. Getting rich and powerful is a hell of a drug, and she had enough sycophants that she had no reason to care about what her critics were saying.
She was convinced that she was a martyr; a voice for the unheard; a leader for the ages, so of course her detractors were the bad guys. And I think we should take this to heart. We should see this as an example of how easy it is to get radicalized; if you think of yourself as a paragon of virtue, you are going to think that whatever you see as good and right is an objective fact. Most people don't know this, but the majority of terfs start out as trans allies. You are not immune to propaganda! You are not immune to falling into dangerous ideologies!!!
This is why the most important thing you can do as an activist is to listen. Do NOT think you're above being wrong; do NOT develop a god complex; do NOT form an identity out of being right all the time. Involve yourselves in the groups you claim to speak for. Listen to trans women; share resources that help trans women; familiarize yourself with the diversity of experiences that trans people have and the struggles they face.
No, none of you are as bad as JKR because you don't have her money or her power. You will likely never have the capacity for harm she does. But check yourselves. Do not affirm yourselves into thinking you always have the moral high ground. Watch yourselves; humble yourselves; check yourselves for signs of cult behavior and internalized prejudice. You are always learning. You will always be learning. Do not allow yourselves to get a power trip from brushing off marginalized voices.
#copied from prev:#harry potter was not a covert attempt to brainwash children into fascism#they're very milquetoast 1990s british liberal#she used to fucking hate the tories#and yes there WERE some tells in her books that she had ye olde unexamined biases
#but in the wake of her going off the deep end people have twisted that into#''she was always a hateful bigot and hp was actually a nefarious attempt to corrupt children into sharing her bigotry''
#and like#no#she was once a well-meaning fairly progressive normie who just didn't think too hard about her own background assumptions about the world#and then she got famous and then she got older and she got radicalized by people who targeted her on purpose because she had#enough money and cultural caché to turn into real influence
#and she was completely unprepared to defend her worldview from people who were telling her that her knee-jerk reaction was always right#and anyone who said otherwise was not only a jerk but also a dangerous villain who wanted to hurt her and other innocent women and girls
#and y'all are not nearly as immune to those tactics as a lot of you think you are
#fuck the ghoul that jkr has become but the story of how she got here is not the story of a crypto-fascist who made it into mainstream#it is the cautionary tale of a normal decent person who fell down a bad rabbithole and got swallowed up by a hate movement
#re-writing history so you can pretend she was always evil won't protect you from sharing her fate
#you have to put in the effort to interrogate your own biases and your own knee-jerk disgust reactions#you have to take a minute every so often to step back and CHECK if you have ended up in an echo chamber bubble and touch grass a little
#because radicalization doesn't happen overnight and it can happen to any of us#it's very easy to let yourself believe that you're Correct and anyone who disagrees with you is Obviously Evil
#you have to force yourself to double-check that notion from time to time and to hang onto EXACTLY what it is that makes the other side wron#you can't just say ''well they're conservatives so obviously they're evil'' because that is how you wind up at ''these men are hurting youn#''girls by PRETENDING to be women in order to take advantage of the protections feminists have spent decades fighting for! and we shouldn't#''even be surprised really - men are awful after all. all they do is TAKE from women and PREY ON young girls. we all know this from our own#''bad experiences with men. and we were right to hate them for it! you see!!'' and whoops now you're a fucking terf
#it's easy it's so easy it's so fucking easy and i promise you i PROMISE you there is a hate group out there who has your fucking number#no matter how good and progressive and leftist you think you are there is SOMETHING that could radicalize you into hate if you let it#there is an argument about how certain people are Just Fundamentally Evil that would appeal to you and make sense to you
the woman once said, on twitter, something to the effect of "I would march with trans people if your rights were threatened."
this was the precursor to something like "so why can't you just ----" but like. she didn't always hate us. she was milquetoast white liberal about us once.
Folks, if you think I, a trans man, look like [Harry Potter character], you can... you can just keep that to yourself. I don't want to read that shit on my selfies.
I am making my peace with other comparisons, but can you NOT compare me to terf IPs, Christ Allmighty.
are you able to separate art from the artist?
yes (alive or dead)
yes, but only if they are dead
no (neither alive or dead)
it depends on what they did
See ResultsI believe that in most cases it is impossible to separate the art from the artist because the artist's beliefs and values affect their work in both conscious and subconscious ways, so keeping the artist in mind is crucial to proper analysis. However I think it's okay to find things to enjoy or find interest or value in in art made by terrible people, so long as you are able to recognize the flaws and not give support to someone genuinely terrible
