[–] ▶ №3114651[Quote]>>3114654
Are you ban evading?
▶ №3114654[Quote]>>3114660
>>3114651i'm not i1 so i'm not ban evading
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but he definitely is geg
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>>3114654Why do jannies keep deleting your leaky threads?
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>>3114662
That's illogical as a sanctification of nature would predicate that your will is the same as God's, it's no different than saying "God doesn't have free will because he cannot sin"
▶ №3114669[Quote]>>3114675>>3114678
Nigger fucking jannies 328f kys let him speak
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… even though free will emanates from God in the system
▶ №3114672[Quote]>>3114682
Wait, you arent the other cuck?
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>>3114669I think its funny hes cheeks getting clapped. He likely deserves it
▶ №3114678[Quote]>>3114680>>3114688
>>3114669Thats probably mustard geg, considering he is russia.
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>>3114681
I am not a catholic and I don't believe they have been the true church since the Frankish Papacies.
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>>3114682Oh, I agree with you. Im just trying to get this cuck to explain the justification for his moral worldview, and hes to retarded to even understand what I mean by that question.
▶ №3114688[Quote]>>3114700>>3114703
>>3114678of course cumstard is watching this fucking thread that slavicnigger banned 3 of my ips for mistaking me for being gold/i1 for "Ban evasion"
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heya hoya heya hoya heya hoya heya hoya
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>>3114688Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
▶ №3114710[Quote]>>3114721
>>3114705Why are you leaking?
▶ №3114712[Quote]>>3114713
>>3114705I wish he could just unban him 10 and then leaving him alone, just to see the leakage.
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>>3114712More times*
Shitty esl
▶ №3114721[Quote]>>3114726>>3114837>>3114840
>>3114710I'm not leaking I just tend to agree with I1 about slavic people and nordic people, but I do not denigrate the christian history that northern europe has had for the past 1,400 years. He larps as a nordic pagan atheist trad relativist because of the "logical inconsistencies of Christcuckianity" and "if God real why brown pipo" but then calls Scandinavians "Lesser Nordics" even though that's who he's larping as
▶ №3114726[Quote]>>3114728
>>3114721All of that is very idiotic and hurts my brain.
▶ №3114728[Quote]>>3114732>>3114746
>>3114726You're speaking a Germanic language living in a Germanic country with a High Trust Germanic culture, no?
▶ №3114732[Quote]>>3114735
>>3114728Well currently muttmerica does not have high trust lmao
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>>3114732granted I am speaking historically it's only not high trust because of niggers and gooks running around
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but if you go into those northeastern white communities or some scandinavian dutch frisian community in the midwest then those are pretty high trust
▶ №3114741[Quote]>>3114745
also unrelated but White America is still White
▶ №3114746[Quote]>>3114755
>>3114728Wdym by germanic? Because celtic/aryans migration from north America in 1000-200bc, was a majority of Europe, and was the foundational DNA for all europoid peoples.
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Average is Subnordid + Phalian which is a continental/southwest germanic phenotype but there is a wide range of phenotypic diversity within White Americans which all come from NW Europe
▶ №3114755[Quote]>>3114762
>>3114746can you please repeat what you just said but slowly
▶ №3114762[Quote]>>3114770
>>3114755Wdym by germanic? Thats the main question.
▶ №3114770[Quote]>>3114787
>>3114762I mean Germanic, which is a Corded Ware culture that originated in south scandinavia/north sea Europe that spread out and eventually formed England, which in turn formed America
>Because celtic/aryans migration from north America in 1000-200bc, was a majority of Europe, and was the foundational DNA for all europoid peoples.what the hell are you talking about?
▶ №3114774[Quote]>>3114782>>3114797>>3114841
The Bible is objective morality but allows subjective morality to be used.
You agree negroes in your land to be a detriment and a liability, committing things you agree to bad and agree to be also sins in the Bible. So knowing them their fruits, you know you can use your judgement to apply different morality to them because it's inevitable that different groups like negroes to be dangerous your group.
See where I'm getting at? We've talked about this numerous times before I1.
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>>3114774Replace negroes with goyim
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>>3114770I would say thats all ancient celtic, but yes, german like, maybe.
Phonecia (Greek name for sea people in 400bc~) were ytpipo in north America, and colonized Europe. But giga volcanos in 200-600ad killed a mass of them, if not all of them. I believe many flew to the colonies in Europe.
▶ №3114790[Quote]>>3114791
>>3114787holy fucking crackpot paddy theory are you slavic or are you irish
▶ №3114791[Quote]>>3114806
>>3114790Its not crackpot.
▶ №3114794[Quote]>>3114796
>>3114787geg we wuz amerikkkangz
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>>3114774God did not create humans to be 100% evil of nature.
We're never 100% good or 100% evil. He gave us a brain to determine friend and foe. A Negro Christian can be more uncivilized than a pagan White man (it mostly is)
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>>3114796I'm a proud VPNfag
▶ №3114806[Quote]>>3114813>>3114850
>>3114791>>3114787you are wrong on so many levels it's crazy nigga
1. Celts (You're likely thinking or Irish celts because you're an ulster paddy or some sort of vague slavix) are Northern Bell beakers that formed as an offshoot of Unetice/Iberian bell beakers that moved into the British Isles and replaced the Scotland_N population there via slaughter.
2.Aryans closest ethnicities are Germans like Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Icelandics, Frisians, and Lower Saxons, not Welshmen, Scots, Brythons, or Irishmen (But they are close as well, actual Celts like Frenchmen are farther away from Aryans than either).
3. Phoenician sea peoples were ethnically Lebanese/Jordanian and didn't "colonize" europe, nor did they come from North America (Amerindian gookmvtt land) or had "Giga volcanos" kill them during the roman empire
are you drunk
▶ №3114807[Quote]>>3114811
>Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
>John 14:6
It's an objective truth with objective morality and subjective too.
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>>3114807>Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.Matthew 7:15-20
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I would love to keep engaging but slavcuckold Jannies won't let me sorry brahs
Hopefully slavshit mustard or whoever gets conscripted and blown in half by a drone
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>>3114721Holy shit ur sooo stupid
Scandinavians are not meaningfully racially different than continental germanics or Anglos. Fuck off retard. Germany and Anglosphere CLEARLY outcompetes them. They are a periphery in comparison
▶ №3114840[Quote]>>3114851
>>3114721Christianity has nothing to do with Northern European history other than the crusades which were race wars which made entire tribes of slavs go extinct
▶ №3114841[Quote]>>3114855
>>3114774What the fuck are u talking about? Morality cannot be objective and subjective simultaneously LMFAOOOO
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>>3114843They are, they are nowhere near as notable or historically important as Germans or Anglos. They were for a long time ruled by Saxons or other continental Germanics anyways
And they're not racially different from Saxons or Anglos, end of story
▶ №3114851[Quote]>>3114854
>>3114840The only successful crusade ever was initiated by Richard the Lionheart to take back the holy land from Dunecoons and then the holy land fell again to turks because Shitalians took the reigns from the North. After this the Crusaders seethed at the Germanics in the North protesting their Church and then sent counter raids to quell their individualism.
Still another Cathshit L, which you dearly cling to in arguments. Natural Theology leads to Atheism and is heresy.
▶ №3114854[Quote]>>3114858
>>3114851Is you retarded? The Wendish, Prussian, and Livonian crusades were all successful. WestbSlavs were colonized into extinction
▶ №3114855[Quote]>>3114862
>>3114841>Morality cannot be objective and subjective simultaneouslyMorality can be subjective as people can hold wrong opinions, but it is objective as God is the apex and knows right from wrong.
▶ №3114862[Quote]>>3114868>>3114884
>>3114855That's wrong, there is simply no objective morality, and if there was God gave us a will separate and non-conforming to his own anyways.
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>>3114862
>We have learned from the prophets, and we hold it to be true, that punishments, chastisements, and rewards are rendered according to the merit of each man's actions. Otherwise, if all things happen by fate, then nothing is in our own power. For if it be predestined that one man be good and another man evil, then the first is not deserving of praise or the other to be blamed. Unless humans have the power of avoiding evil and choosing good by free choice, they are not accountable for their actions-whatever they may be…. For neither would a man be worthy of reward or praise if he did not of himself choose the good, but was merely created for that end. Likewise, if a man were evil, he would not deserve punishment, since he was not evil of himself, being unable to do anything else than what he was made for.>(First Apology 43 [A.D. 151]), St. Justin MartyrWithout free will there can be no love, and God created Man to love him and for God to love Man.
>That's wrong, there is simply no objective morality.You are making a universal truth claim without any grounding.
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Theosis?
Are you mormon?
▶ №3114889[Quote]>>3114905>>3114941
>>3114850Yeah sorry jigga but they're dunecoons that did like 2 cool things, that being the alphabet and the phoenician empire but then never did anything again
>>3114884I don't get why he's trying to use his own imperfect reasoning to define a God by the system inherent when he's outside the system
does he not know about Godel's incompleteness
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>>3114887Divinification/Theosis is a doctrine held by the early church and it is what makes saints saints, by participation in his uncreated energies
▶ №3114899[Quote]>>3114906>>3114923
>>3114868Holy shit christcucks just love digging their own graves when arguing with anyone that isn't 60 iq muslemz or morality worshipping atheist redditors
Your claim is in order for there to be love there must be free will? There is no capacity to sin in heaven, and christians conflate heaven with total unity with God's will, therefore one of two things can be true;
1. Sin is filled with fake love, since you have no capacity to choose from right & wrong
2. Yahweh is a complete fucking retard, and gave human beings the capacity to do things worthy of his punishment (for whatever sadomasochistic reason) so that he could "love them", even though this just means sin is good or somehow necessary to validate love which also implies heaven is actually LE BAD
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Catholics believe in created grace, The church fathers believe in everything uncreated related to God
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>>3114889Why am I catching a stray
▶ №3114906[Quote]>>3114915
>>3114899>There is no capacity to sin in heaven,I thought Satan sinned in heaven and got cast out
▶ №3114911[Quote]>>3114914>>3114923
>>3114868You cant actually prove there is an objectively true morality because it's an inapplicable abstract. It's the EXACT same as claiming everyone is equal. Ur just too mindraped by Jewish mystic nonsense to get this
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>>3114911Japsterdam is that you
▶ №3114915[Quote]>>3114928
>>3114906It was never supposed to make sense, brah… it's a 3000 year old jewish story
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>>3114899People can believe in right things for the wrong reasons, a positive act of charity can be done to gloat to others with and receive false glory from it. This implies a laden truth that is in the realm of metaphysics that God can only make sense of.
>>3114911
>You cant actually prove there is an objectively true moralitySo it's a universal truth that you can't prove objective true morality because it's a metaphysical abstract, which is also a metaphysical abstract that you can't prove it objectively true, right.
>Ur just too mindraped by Jewish mystic nonsense to get thisad hominem crying
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>>3114915he liddoly disproved you and then you said
>ermmm actually this just doesn't make sense because it doesn't okay?There is no capacity to sin in the resurrected world as the chosen as those who are chosen have their natures aligned with God and would never want to sin so you're creating a logical impossibility
▶ №3114939[Quote]>>3114949
>>3114923You did it AGAIN award.
>it's inexplicable, not logically sound, therefore im reaching agreement and conclusion regardless of reason. Only God knows!Christcucks…!!!!!!
▶ №3114949[Quote]>>3114967
>>3114939Your argument lies on the grounding of "Man can know everything via reason" which is an impossibility as Man cannot know everything.
God's attributes are that he is omnipotent and therefore can know everything. We do not make the oceans move, we do not make the stars turn in the sky, and somehow you are saying this disproves God when it implies the opposite.
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>>3114923No, there are objective truths with are reached via REASON and LOGIC, like physics. Christianity has nothing to do with this, it's jewish mysticism that reaches conclusions regardless of logic or reasoning. Morality is not a universally applicable truth, and has no basis in reality. If you're body doesn't receive nutrients, you will die is an objective reality based on the laws of physics. Morality is not the same thing, and is a completely fake abstract mostly pioneered by Jews
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>>3114941I will take this as concession.
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>>3114928LOLZ
That's stupid, it's just a fucking euphemism for there not being a free will. If they have unity with God's will, then there's no free will. If they are stripped of the original free will desire to disobey God, there isn't free will. If they never choose sin, how is that free at all when it NEVER deviates? Or they never "feel the need" to deviate? Makes no fucking sense whatsoever
>you need to fuggin free will for real love and shiit because I said so! (Arbitrary conclusion with no logical basis)>WAIT, NO, YOU DO HAVE FREE WILL IN HEAVEN, EVEN DOE YOU CAN ONLY FOLLOW GODS WILL WITH NO ETERNAL POSSIBILITY FOR DEVIATION, BUT ITS ACTUALLY STILL FREE WILL! ▶ №3114962[Quote]>>3114978
>>3114950>No, there are objective truths with are reached via REASON and LOGIC, like physics.And does physics prove physics? Does physics interpret physics? This series of things just implies there's a structure to things. This would imply an external world (Which presupposes metaphysical categories like an external world and how Man can perceive identity over time and define objective truth values in propositions). All of these things require epistemology and metaphysics.
Where is Logic? Where is Reason? Can you grab reason or logic?
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>>3114949Did it
AGAIN award.
>cannot logically explain his "objectively true" religion >expects me to agree with him regardless of complete logical inconsistencies and falsehoodsCognitively Jewish
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Are Logic and Reason invented by us, or do they exist in nature? Existence implies metaphysics. If they are not arbitrarily decided then that implies truth which is universal.
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>>3114962Zero substance just words
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>>3114951I dont have time to show you everything I know. But I implore you to look into the phonecian civilization in north america.
