AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[Sasmate]

Exactly, being able to think critically, which AIniggers will soon be unable to do by virtue of outsourcing their thoughts to the virtual jeet in the computer. E.g. @grok is this true?

See my previous post in this thread

 

[behindyourightnow]

Do you think leftists with AI Derangement Syndrome are suffering cognitive dissonance over the fact that Iranian propaganda is 99% AI? I'm not just talking about the fake "we shot down a B2 and destroyed Tel Aviv" images. The Iranian propaganda accounts are also constantly pumping out images like this:




They don't even bother editing out the piss filter!

It must be kind of awkward to insist for years that AI represents the aesthetics of fascism and then it turns out that the third world / Muslims / etc can't get enough of it.

 

[Epstein's Mexican cousin]

Tiktok has proven to have some AI gems on it lmao.

 

[Pippa is a spic whore]

I never thought I would have to learn to code. WAAAAAH!

 

[Iodine]

It must be kind of awkward to insist for years that AI represents the aesthetics of fascism and then it turns out that the third world / Muslims / etc can't get enough of it.

This has been discussed earlier in the thread but I can personally confirm from having to work with outsourced third-worlders and ESLs that they ADORE AI. AIDS is an exclusively Western phenomenon (probably funded by China to get an edge up in the AI arms race). Imagine the dumbest gorilla nigger Facebook boomer who has no idea how computers work and thinks it's a miracle that a computer can create a realistic-ish image of Jesus Christ as a lobster. Then give that person an average third-world IQ and poor English proficiency. They cannot recognize the LLM-isms and treat every generated word like gospel. I can't recall how many times I have been confidently told by these outsourced "talents" that something can or cannot be done, a 5 second search immediately contradicts that, and then the evidence behind the claim turns out to be some obviously AI-generated response. Same thing with the art, the majority of the third world has hardly any native artistic heritage and their art in the modern day are poor-quality clones of Western/Eastern mediums, which AI-generated images can easily mimic.

Example of third-world design sensibilities and respect for copyright:


Knowing leftists, if they ever break out of their Western liberal bubbles and find out about this, they will just use the same socio-economic factors and colonialism excuses they use to cover up for shitskin economic productivity and criminality statistics. They are experts at making everything whitey's fault.

 

[BigMan13]

It must be kind of awkward to insist for years that AI represents the aesthetics of fascism and then it turns out that the third world / Muslims / etc can't get enough of it.

Imagine the dumbest gorilla nigger Facebook boomer who has no idea how computers work and thinks it's a miracle that a computer can create a realistic-ish image of Jesus Christ as a lobster. Then give that person an average third-world IQ and poor English proficiency. They cannot recognize the LLM-isms and treat every generated word like gospel.

That's great and all that we are smart and they are dumb, but we just gave our enemies an unlimited propaganda machine.

 

[Iodine]

That's great and all that we are smart and they are dumb, but we just gave our enemies an unlimited propaganda machine.

We didn't, Western AI companies have sanctions on Iran. They're using ChinkAI. Iran being able to use AI isn't a show of power either because they have no control over the underlying models and infrastructure. China can easily use access to their AI models as a bargaining chip against Iran.

Which makes it all the more important that the West doesn't kneecap itself in the AI arms race against China with AIDS and lawfare. There's political power behind this.

 

[BigMan13]

Which makes it all the more important that the West doesn't kneecap itself in the AI arms race against China with AIDS and lawfare. There's political power behind this.

Then we are losing the AI development race decisively.

Also, I hadn't thought of it until I posted last, it does seem the USA is somehow losing the informational war against Iran. Probably because the youth here are disengaged.

 

[Runch]

That's great and all that we are smart and they are dumb, but we just gave our enemies an unlimited propaganda machine.

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/misinformation-reloaded-fears-about-the-impact-of-generative-ai-on-misinformation-are-overblown/

A very good read:

Generative AI makes it easier to create misinformation, which could increase the supply of misinformation. However, it is not because there is more misinformation that people will necessarily consume more of it. Instead, we argue here that the consumption of misinformation is mostly limited by demand and not by supply.

Increases in the supply of misinformation should only increase the diffusion of misinformation if there is currently an unmet demand and/or a limited supply of misinformation. Neither possibility is supported by evidence. Regarding limited supply, the already low costs of misinformation production and access, and the large number of misinformation posts that currently exist but go unnoticed, means that generative AI has very little room to operate. Regarding unmet demand, given the creativity humans have showcased throughout history to make up (false) stories and the freedom that humans already have to create and spread misinformation across the world, it is unlikely that a large part of the population is looking for misinformation they cannot find online or offline. Moreover, as we argue below, demand for misinformation is relatively easy to meet because the particular content of misinformation is less important than the broad narrative it supports.

In absolute terms, misinformation already abounds online and, unlike high-quality news or scientific articles, it is rarely behind paywalls. Yet, despite the quantity and accessibility of misinformation, the average internet user consumes very little of it (e.g., Allen et al., 2020; for review, see Acerbi et al., 2022). Instead, misinformation consumption is heavily concentrated in a small portion of very active and vocal users (Grinberg et al. 2019). What makes misinformation consumers special is not that they have privileged access to misinformation but traits that make them more likely to seek out misinformation (Broniatowski et al., 2023; Motta et al., 2023), such as having low trust in institutions or being strong partisans (Osmundsen et al., 2021). Experts on misinformation view partisanship and identity as key determinants of misinformation belief and sharing, while they believe lack of access to reliable information only plays a negligible role (Altay et al., 2023). The problem is not that people do not have access to high-quality information but instead that they reject high-quality information and favor misinformation. Similarly, conspiracy theories exist everywhere and are easily accessible online across the globe. Yet, despite similarities in supply, demand for conspiracy theories varies across countries, such that in more corrupt countries, conspiracy theories are more popular (Alper, 2023; Cordonier & Cafiero, 2023).

Finally, (mis)information, on its own, has no causal effect on the world. (Mis)information only gains causal powers when humans see it. Yet, the number of things that go viral on the internet and get seen is finite because our attention is finite (Jungherr & Schroeder, 2021a; Taylor, 2014). And since generative AI is unlikely to increase demand for misinformation and will not increase the number of things humans can pay attention to, the increase in misinformation supply will likely have limited influence on the diffusion of misinformation.

TL;DR: more misinformation doesn't matter if no one sees it, and generally the only people who see most of it are people who intentionally seek it out because they're ideological morons.

 

[BigMan13]

generally the only people who see most of it are people who intentionally seek it out because they're ideological morons.

Coming from a liberal family, this is precisely what the Democrats were thinking during the 2016 election. Point being: us considering Iran to be the bad guys, doesn't mean they'll lose, and that we should take them seriously lest they get a surprise victory on us.

 

[Waifuwars]

Then we are losing the AI development race decisively.

Also, I hadn't thought of it until I posted last, it does seem the USA is somehow losing the informational war against Iran. Probably because the youth here are disengaged.

Actually we're not. Our state of the art (SOTA) models are the best, hands down (Claude, Gemini, GPT lol). The Chinese are actively handicapped because they're forced to smuggle high end GPUs to even have the bandwidth to train their models. And even then, they do what chinks do best and attempt to rip off the US's proprietary models, like how the big Chinese AI firms (Deepseek, Moonshot, etc) were recently caught trying to distill their models with Claude. Until the Chinese can finally manage to manufactor their own GPUs, they're at a disadvantage. On the bright side China is basically the only competition we have right now. The other countries are so behind it's kind of pathetic. And indians are probably the main reason why Grok is shit vs the other SOTA models

 

[BigMan13]

[We are smart and they are stupid]

That's true until it isn't. Example, 40 years ago nobody would think that China would become a tech frontrunner.

 

[Iodine]

Coming from a liberal family, this is precisely what the Democrats were thinking during the 2016 election. Point being: us considering Iran to be the bad guys, doesn't mean they'll lose, and that we should take them seriously lest they get a surprise victory on us.

Agreed, in Europe at least there is a massive Iranian trojan horse population. Aside from gypsies and kikes, they're Europe's oldest non-colonial shitskin demographic with massive refugee floods starting from the Islamic revolution in the 1970s and 1980s. Their second-generation spawn were born on European soil, have European citizenship and are undeportable under current laws. The second generation is always more extremist and has greater loyalty to their ethnic homeland than the first. Even if the chinks are stupid copycats in this AI war, we're fighting them with traitors on the inside. They have a lot of avenues to spring surprise attacks on the West.

Politisperging post more Troonsky fartist AIDS o algo

 

[Waifuwars]

That's true until it isn't. Example, 40 years ago nobody would think that China would become a tech frontrunner.

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not calling China stupid. They're fundamentally handicapped because of the lack of high end GPUs, which has spurred them to become very efficient and inventive with their LLM models, which is why they're so much cheaper compared to Claude or Gemini. However, as someone who's used both Chinese and SOTA models extensively, the difference in capability between Deepseek and Claude is night and day (not to say Deepseek is stupid, but it struggles especially with high context). There's a reason why even Chinese coders prefer Claude and why Josh glazes it. GPU power is a big hurdle and limits the size and scale of models you can train and scale.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

BBC: Race on to establish globally recognised 'AI-free' logo (archive)



I like the "No No AI" logo, let's make that one the winner.

 

[Toolbox]

How many of these ai apocalypse grift channels are there? I know two that are dedicated to doomsaying rather than focusing on the realistic negatives of the ai boom, siliconversations and this guy

Here's just their last year-ish.


Love the credence given to the roko's basilisk-tier skynet AGI 2027 yet also the one trying to freak you out on AI 'outnumbering you' 3 years later. Is that meant to be once they already drop the nukes and billions die? Pretty good gig species got going here.

I like the "No No AI" logo, let's make that one the winner.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Could be a grift but unless they're taking commissions or selling shit then doesn't really matter.

That’s the one that baffles me is if they also take commissions and selling stuff.

That’s the one that gives off the grift particles.

 

[synthetic_glazer]

How many of these ai apocalypse grift channels are there? I know two that are dedicated to doomsaying rather than focusing on the realistic negatives of the ai boom, siliconversations and this guy

I remember some time ago, Upper Echelon Gaming began his AI Doomerism arc, and seems to be carrying on with it, still (albeit less frequently than when I stopped watching him.)


He used to be pretty cool for the most part, and he wasn't afraid to point out woke slop and politically-motivated BS in games. He had a lot of NFT/Crypto "exposed" videos which boiled down to him reading articles and saying "it's so over for them! There's no coming back from this one" ad nauseam, but I could at least tolerate those. Then he hopped on the AI Apocalypse bandwagon and I ended up unsubscribing since it was the same song and dance every time- hysteria, outragebait, and fear-mongering, and his thumbnails have only gotten more ridiculous.

Not AI-related but iirc a while back, he was considered to be based and anti-woke, but eventually he said "no, I'm not, and if you thought I was on your side, you're an idiot- both sides are exactly the same in behavior and cultural influence dontcha know?" Can't help but wonder if that was part of him trying to rebrand into a more safe, advertiser-friendly generic clickbait channel. Might be misremembering since it's been a while, but still, it happened something like that.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

This has been discussed earlier in the thread but I can personally confirm from having to work with outsourced third-worlders and ESLs that they ADORE AI. AIDS is an exclusively Western phenomenon (probably funded by China to get an edge up in the AI arms race). Imagine the dumbest gorilla nigger Facebook boomer who has no idea how computers work and thinks it's a miracle that a computer can create a realistic-ish image of Jesus Christ as a lobster. Then give that person an average third-world IQ and poor English proficiency. They cannot recognize the LLM-isms and treat every generated word like gospel. I can't recall how many times I have been confidently told by these outsourced "talents" that something can or cannot be done, a 5 second search immediately contradicts that, and then the evidence behind the claim turns out to be some obviously AI-generated response. Same thing with the art, the majority of the third world has hardly any native artistic heritage and their art in the modern day are poor-quality clones of Western/Eastern mediums, which AI-generated images can easily mimic.

Example of third-world design sensibilities and respect for copyright:
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Knowing leftists, if they ever break out of their Western liberal bubbles and find out about this, they will just use the same socio-economic factors and colonialism excuses they use to cover up for shitskin economic productivity and criminality statistics. They are experts at making everything whitey's fault.

That’s the whole thing I feel with regards to AI art as a whole.

it’s not only to tell antis and the artists to go away or to mess with them, it’s also used by low IQ cattle to have a modicum of credibility or credential.

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/misinformation-reloaded-fears-about-the-impact-of-generative-ai-on-misinformation-are-overblown/

I'm so glad Harvard was here to tell me that there are only 24 hours in a day. Bunch of faggots.

it’s also used by low IQ cattle to have a modicum of credibility or credential.

It is my hope/belief that AI can no more gussy up shit ideas than any sophist ever has, and so its power to magnify lies will be nothing we haven't encountered before in the first era of mass media.

Meanwhile, those who aren't looking for their own personal sycophant but need some hand-holding to good ideas or even basic instruction now have a tireless teacher to explain it to them. Basically an all-season pass to the school of Scholasticism for plebs with brains. There's already a tonne of shit I ask LLMs just because a human being would rather kill himself than answer my thousandth question about pharmacokinetics.