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Comment by Bill Goss.
FeaturedAs long as I can still add apps that aren't from the Play Store, then I don't mind.
Sure, it'll be a bit annoying to have to either wait for a day and/or use ADB, but I so rarely do this these days that it's not a big deal for me.
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Comment by Joey.
This just makes me glad I used ADB to make it impossible to update my phone.
Comment by stpeter75.
Graphene OS. Google free phones.
Comment by Jim Dafoex.
I get it, it makes sense, but it harms power users and makes Android less open on the whole. In my humble opinion, a simple flag that can only be changed via ADB (like that for blocking popups when you receive a notification) would have sufficed. Elsie in her 80s isn't going to want to learn to use ADB in the first place, and even then, there are already security prompts in place that could just be expanded upon to explain the dangers of ADB. I appreciate that it sucks having to use a second computer to change settings in your pocket computer, but there will be far less friction for power users to say `adb trusted-install-source org.fdroid.fdroid true` for example.
Reply by Jim Dafoex.
I'll be honest, that sounds like a you issue. I take the point, however, not everyone wants to use ADB - but if the option were there to easily trust an alternative app store like F-Droid, I'd take it if it meant I could get automatic updates on stock from F-Droid.
Reply by Jim Dafoex.
One thing that occurs to me just now, if there is a prompt asking "are you on the phone with someone who might be scamming you?" why not detect if the phone is in use as a phone, and just say "to continue, hang up the call". Only then will it prompt the user with the "scammers often ask you to do this" message, and without someone from Kolkata in their ear telling them it's urgent, the user might actually have chance to slow down and think logically.
Comment by zoronicles12.
Ofc it is not restricting , I don't know why those self-proclaimed "tech enthusiasts" can't comprehend what google is doing , Google isn't removing the ability , it's just restricting to do in a rush and only to wait a day , your side loading apps isn't going anywhere,why are you in a rush? You guys are enthusiasts and don't even know the majority of users are being scammed everyday and these days , annoying apps that make the phone to run ads all the time to the point that you can't even use YOUR PHONE and this is the perfect approach to it. As long as google isn't removing the ability to sideload apps , I will still use android , if it does , then what is the point of android , I will just switch to Apple anyway at that point.
Read news , learn what's happening in the world and comprehend and read properly what the article meant.
Comment by Jordan Broly GS.
It's my phone, not yours Google nor anyone else's. Stop dictation and locking down how MY pocket computer works!
Comment by thedicemaster.
making this a "developer option" is no good, when apps are starting to use developer options as a "red flag" for a modded/unsecure device and will refuse to run.
Reply by Jim Dafoex.
Not only that, but I use developer options for accessibility since it's the only place I can enable the show touches dot for feedback when apps refuse to give it to me.
Comment by Erica Diaz.
Hopefully someone will find a way around this. This is horrible. They should give an opt-out for advanced enough users who are willing to take the risk. I'll have to make sure I have everything I could ever want downloaded before then, just in case there's no way to get around it or break it by then. I hope there is a major backlash.
Reply by Jim Dafoex.
Unfortunately, this IS the opt-out. At least they had the good grace to make it indefinite at your discression.
Comment by boultareauloevan168.
I think that Google has done good with this. Because advanced users can still install the apps they want, sure it’s annoying but you sure still can. And normal users will be annoyed by this limit and because the world is just lazy nowadays (excluding the power users) they’ll just stop the process and search something on the Play Store or do nothing at all.
Comment by Chaldon Pretorius.
I wonder how many people that answered the poll actually bothered to read the article and understand how the advanced flow works. Android has not been a platform catered to nerds in a long time.
I think Google has actually done well here. Users who actually regularly sideload apps will find it slightly annoying up front, but then it's business as usual going forward and honestly no real issue. I say this as someone that uses 20+ FOSS apps that I have sideloaded and manage via Obtainium.
People who are in the process of being scammed have better protections in place to limit this occurring.edited
Reply by vladimir.nedeljkovic.97.
Agreed - from what I understand, you have to to through this once, and then can enable sideloading "indefinitely" without jumping through hoops again. If that's the case, I really don't think this is as big a deal as people are making it out to be.
Reply by Joey.
Until you get a new phone, or do a reset, or Google pushes an update where the flag gets reset
Comment by WJS.
Welp. Looks like it's time to look into an Android alternative that's actually open. Should have done so years ago, I hate Google, but it was, you know, "friction". Now Google have put that "friction" into Android, so friction either way. Congrats I guess.
As long as I can still add apps that aren't from the Play Store, then I don't mind. Sure, it'll be a bit annoying to have to either wait for a day and/or use ADB, but I so rarely do this these days that it's not a big deal for me.