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Serious It should be illegal for men and women to be friends.

Shinichi

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In Islamic countries, there is a common practice of men only physically touching women who are either related to them or married to. Either belief system they actually believe that touching an unmarried woman as a man is a form of adultery. Now you can say a lot about Islam as religion, but I completely agree with this, and I think they were ahead of their time when it comes to how many women should interact, that being they just shouldn’t.

Men and women can on a surface level be friends, but it’s in the same way of how somebody in theory could drive a car with their feet. It’s physically possible, but I wouldn’t advise you to do it. For starters you’re just plain a house-nigger or cuck for being in a platonic relationship for a woman. I always hear people tell me that I should have more women friends in my circle, but all that would really amount to is them complaining to me about Chad or Tyrone is abusing them in someway, but still wanting to be with them over somebody that would actually treat them right. Only enough when I was in middle school. I actually was friends with women who were my age, but they were all intellectually slow since they were mostly in special ed, and we didn’t really have any great conversations. Not that it would matter if they weren’t because most women at the same intellectually anyway, and if you wanted to complain about your problems to a woman, they would halfheartedly listen to your plate and give you the worst advice on purpose because they are in neatly self sabotaging people.

What’s another reason is that if you are friends with women a lot of the times you might end up taking their side of the argument because of how innately kind of gynocentric every man is. Take the side up for a woman than a man because preprogrammed to protect them. So in that way, you will become a spiritual homosexual and view how most foods do.

Lastly, as we all know, most men only use friendship as a cover to try to start a relationship with women, but most of the time it doesn’t work. I know so many of my guy, friends who spent money in time on women in the guise of having a platonic relationship with them, but secretly wanting something more and it completely backfiring on them. Women are well aware of this too, and tend to just take advantage of the situation. They know you want to date them and that they’ll never let that happen but they will happily use you for resource resources, both physical and emotional. It’s a lose lose deal.
 
Tbh, those friendships seem to be more a myth than reality. A good amount of men, as you pointed out, do try to get close to women like that so they can try confessing to them and make them their girlfriends, but that's usually it. The idea of a mixed-sex friend group meeting up and casually hanging out, in particular, is basically just fantasy, as pointed out in this must-read thread:


"Childhood friends" situations do happen IRL, but they rarely survive growing up. Either they get together, or fall apart, or both:feelshaha:. IRL, it seems like 90% of people, at minimum, only have single-sex friend groups. I've actually looked into this some time ago, and differences in sex, race/ethnicity, educational level and so on, do have a visible effect on making friendships more likely to break apart, as well as making it more unlikely for such friendships to form in the first place, because the "power of friendship" in bullshit, and the reality of their different living situations always hits.
 
Judging from my own observations of zoomers, I'd argue we're reverting back to gender segregation, albeit a soft version of it.

With zoomers you rarely see mixed gender friend groups where it's like, 3 girls and 3 guys or something.

Whenever I see zoomers in public its almost always either:

1) A guy by himself
2) A group of all women
3) A group of all dudes
4) A group of women with 1 chad
5) A group of women and 1 flamboyent gay guy (or a straight guy who plays the role so well they deserve an oscar)
6) Couples (though this is becoming less common)

Back 20+ years ago it was way more common to see a mixed gender friend group. I was in several myself even as a sub5 male.

You also used to see a lot more "friend groups" where it was one woman and a bunch of orbiters. But now these women can just make an OF and have simps pay them 6 figures to see feet pics, so they don't need to hang out with them in real life anymore.

Also gender politics has really driven a wedge between men and women. Nearly every woman under 30 is an extreme misandrist due to spending hours and hours a day consuming "I HATE MEN, I CHOOSE THE BEAR, KILL ALL MEN" tik tok slop.

What’s another reason is that if you are friends with women a lot of the times you might end up taking their side of the argument because of how innately kind of gynocentric every man is. Take the side up for a woman than a man because preprogrammed to protect them.
Oh I've seen this A LOT. The vast majority of guys act different whenever a woman is around in order to gain her approval. Some guys will act WAAY different, like some Jekyll and Hyde type shit. Like guys who would make extremely edgy and offensive jokes would suddenly become SJWs when a woman was around.

In fact I'd say every guy is like this to some extent, even me. I didn't do it to an absurd degree like a lot of guys I knew, but there were times when I'd make an observation or just think of something funny but bit my tongue because I knew the girl(s) in the group wouldn't approve. And there were even times where I'd pretend to agree with a woman in the friend group thinking I was scoring brownie points with her.

Men's instinct to provide for and protect women, seek their approval and generally simp is extremely strong. You have to have superhuman willpower to resist the urge to simp when a woman is around in a social setting. And even then it would be exhausting and frustrating fighting that urge, it's like having an intense itch and trying not to scratch it.
 
Oh I've seen this A LOT. The vast majority of guys act different whenever a woman is around in order to gain her approval. Some guys will act WAAY different, like some Jekyll and Hyde type shit
Or they’ll try to embarrass their male friends to seem tough
 
Or they’ll try to embarrass their male friends to seem tough
Yoooooo!!! I see this shit all the time. I’ve suffered through being the butt of jokes so dudes can look cool in front of foids and I’ve also shit on lower level guys in the false hope of getting pussy. It’s peak house nigger behavior and I’m ashamed in retrospect in acting that way.
 
Yoooooo!!! I see this shit all the time. I’ve suffered through being the butt of jokes so dudes can look cool in front of foids and I’ve also shit on lower level guys in the false hope of getting pussy. It’s peak house nigger behavior and I’m ashamed in retrospect in acting that way.
common in middle/high school, your ‘friend’ of years will literally through you under the bus and mock you for the slim chance of validation from an ugly girl. And people still don’t think that foids are socially privileged
 
A good amount of men, as you pointed out, do try to get close to women like that so they can try confessing to them and make them their girlfriends, but that's usually it.
I forgot about this thread I made:feelshaha:.


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Boys have female best friends 10% of the time and it doesn't change over time from grades six to ten. Same with having female friends in their wider friend network, that they have about 20% of the time and it actually seems to decrease a bit with time. For girls however, the percentages of both male best friends and more distant friends pretty consistently rise over time as they develop and the sexes get more interested in each other. Gee, I wonder why:feelshaha:.

differences in sex, race/ethnicity, educational level and so on, do have a visible effect on making friendships more likely to break apart, as well as making it more unlikely for such friendships to form in the first place, because the "power of friendship" in bullshit, and the reality of their different living situations always hits.
Turns out the study I thought about when writing this didn't talk about race, only gender and educational attainment, but there are still more than enough papers showing the same to be the case for those things as well.



Judging from my own observations of zoomers, I'd argue we're reverting back to gender segregation, albeit a soft version of it.

With zoomers you rarely see mixed gender friend groups where it's like, 3 girls and 3 guys or something.
Back 20+ years ago it was way more common to see a mixed gender friend group. I was in several myself even as a sub5 male.
Out of curiosity, how sincere would you say those friendships were? Were the people involved actual friends, or was it more so the guys and girls being friends seperately and just sort of interacting with the other group, and how well did such friend groups hold over time?
 
1) A guy by himself
2) A group of all women
3) A group of all dudes
4) A group of women with 1 chad
5) A group of women and 1 flamboyent gay guy (or a straight guy who plays the role so well they deserve an oscar)
6) Couples (though this is becoming less common)
I am 22 and this is 100% accurate :yes:

Also gender politics has really driven a wedge between men and women. Nearly every woman under 30 is an extreme misandrist due to spending hours and hours a day consuming "I HATE MEN, I CHOOSE THE BEAR, KILL ALL MEN" tik tok slop.
:yes::yes::yes:

That whole reply I excerpted from was one trvke after another tbh
 
Something I want to add is the fact that dudes who are Chad will tend to unironically have female friends a lot since, like women, they lives are also on easy mode. This is kinda common in Latino communities where everyone is very over-socialized and the gender roles are kinda reversed where men are sorta feminine in their interactions and the women are super aggressive ( don’t believe that machismo myth shit).

The way I look at it it’s almost like when rich guys start siding with billion dollar corporations over the common man since their way of life is so foreign to them.
 
Or just to fuck them.
If your trying to be cool a girl into thinking your friends then your an either a normie or the on the needles edge of being a sub 5. Those guys can’t fuck women without engaging in a relationship first so it’s highly unlikely these dudes doing just wanna fuck with no strings attached. Really only the top 80% can have fuck buddies.
 

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