Posts tagged antisemitism

Posted 7 hours ago

nonbinaryjudean:

post from floppergostic: Vast harm *is* coming to Jewish diasporas because of Israel's actions though. It's not *the* cause of antisemitism, but it is absolutely *a* cause for the rise in antisemitism happening right now. When you equate opposing genocide with being antisemitic, as Israel's officials have done again and again, it causes regular people to think "I guess I'm antisemitic then". It's obviously not the only cause of antisemitism (people will find reasons to hate Jews if they want to), but it is delusional to think that it isn't a contributing factor.ALT

@floppergostic i am replying to your comment in a separate post because i have a lot to say.

first, i do not genuinely believe you are coming at this from a place of wanting to engage in good-faith conversation.

second, misusing words like “delusional” is shitty. you shouldn’t do that.

third, i do not think you are going to listen to any of what i have to say. i am still going to respond.

“Vast harm *is* coming to Jewish diasporas because of Israel’s actions though. It’s not *the* cause of antisemitism, but it is absolutely *a* cause for the rise in antisemitism happening right now.”

no. it isn’t. if israel doing something bad makes you commit a hate crime against a jew you already wanted to commit a hate crime against a jew.

contrary to some people’s beliefs, jews are not all an evil almighty plotting hivemind. israel is not using the space laser to beam antisemitism into peoples minds.

“When you equate opposing genocide with being antisemitic, as Israel’s officials have done again and again, it causes regular people to think "I guess I’m antisemitic then”.“

so you base your understanding of bigotry towards jewish people on the israeli government? thats literally a you problem, not a jew problem. fix your shit. "regular people” are capable of thinking their own thoughts. regular people are capable of understanding that antisemitism is bad.

why does responsibility fall on the victims of hate instead of the people who choose to hate?

“It’s obviously not the only cause of antisemitism (people will find reasons to hate Jews if they want to), but it is delusional to think that it isn’t a contributing factor.”

i think this is the part of your comment that bothers me the most. “people will find reasons to hate jews if they want to”.

you need to step back for a moment. you need to take a seat. you need to fucking listen to what im about to say to you right now.

antisemitism is not just a “choice” that people make. it is baked into the foundations of western society. it is institutional, systemic, mutating. antisemitism functions differently from other forms of hatred because it isnt just hatred - antisemitism includes conspiracies, assumptions, lies, and erasure. antisemites don’t hate jews “just because”.

antisemitism is very often based on the PERCEPTION the person has of jews rather than ACTUAL jews. people hate jews because they think we killed jesus (we didnt). people hate jews because they think we are corrupting the white race (we arent). people hate jews because they think we are pretending to be victims of antisemitism (we are).

another example? the exact comment you left me. you are basing your idea of what antisemitism looks like, what jewish people are experiencing right now, and what jewish people believe on a perception YOU MADE UP in YOUR OWN MIND. you saw a jew talking about antisemitism. you interpreted it based on your perception of jews talking about antisemitism, specifically that we “support genocide”. (the word genocide having literally been invented to refer to what happened to US within the last century.)

you are perpetuating the cycle. you are REFUSING to dismantle your own bigotry, to investigate it, to learn about it, to consider that antisemitism is the fault of antisemites, not jews that you dislike.

if you understand what it means when someone speaks about institutionalized racism or misogyny, you need to understand it when it comes to antisemitism too.

this is victim blaming garbage. in the past week there have been attacks on synagogues every. fucking. day. how in the FUCK is that israels fault?????

if you need an excuse to be an antisemite, YOU ARE ALREADY A FUCKING ANTISEMITE. ANTISEMITISM IS CAUSED BY PEOPLE BEING ANTISEMITES. antisemites need to take accountability for their own actions. instead, you force jews to turn out our pockets and explain this shit to you.

antisemites are responsible for their own actions. you know how you sound? “well what was she wearing? she was drunk, i could tell she was asking for it”.

introspect or go fuck yourself

You put a lot of words in my mouth that I neither said, implied, nor meant. “People will find reasons to hate Jews if they want to” does not mean that Jews did anything to deserve the hate, it literally means the opposite–that people find reasons, excuses, logical arguments that serve them when they want to justify hating Jewish people. Because, as you said, they are already antisemitic.

One of the reasons violent bigots can freely act on their bigotry is the apathy of others. When a country, claiming to be acting on behalf of all Jews, kills people en masse, then accuses any critics of their massacres as being bigoted and antisemitic, it has an effect on the bystander, the other, who is less likely to stand or say anything against violence against Jews, even though they wouldn’t perpetrate it themselves. And because they aren’t doing anything to stop violent bigots, incidences of violent bigotry, violent antisemitism increase. This is not only my opinion, but the opinion of many scholars as well, including Jews.

At no point did I say, imply, or mean that Jews or even you in particular support genocide. What I did say is that Israel claims to represent Jews, and that Israel is committing a genocide. And if people believe what Israel says, they will think that all Jews support is Israel and support Israel’s genocide of Gaza. I don’t believe Israel represents all Jews, or even that Israel has Jews’ best interests at heart, but a lot of people do. And that is going to affect their views of Jewish people. I don’t think that’s a radical statement to make.

Posted 1 month ago

quantumshade:

quantumshade:

i get why people are skeptical of claims about “rising antisemitism” in a world where a genocidal state is claiming everyone standing up to them is being antisemitic, but the reality is that the average person actually genuinely is being more antisemitic. every comment section on every single post i saw about Holocaust Remembrance Day was like this

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israel’s actions ARE causing a rise in antisemitism in the average gentile, because they push the narrative of representing jewish people as a whole, which would make us all culpable for their horrific actions. and even the people who aren’t being antisemitic themselves are certainly more okay with the people around them being antisemitic. it’s likely someone you know or are close with believes in some sort of conspiracy about jews running the world or having all the money or controlling the media etc etc. not zionists, not israelis, jews. israel wants jews to believe that everyone hates us and they’re the only safe place for us to exist. as a diaspora jew whose family fled the shoah this is not fucking true and it’s insulting to say that it is, but being a gentile saying this shit only helps israel’s cause because it’s what they want us to believe. they want the world to hate jews. don’t fucking fall for it. judaism is not zionism and zionism is not judaism.

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to be fair, this is kind of exactly why people are skeptical — institutions like the ADL and similar groups that produce these statistics are deeply zionist and are counting anyone speaking out for palestine in these hate crime statistics. it’s important to acknowledge that both of these things are true; that zionist groups are coopting the idea of antisemitism to suit their needs (making the word feel as though it means nothing!) AND that actual antisemitism — that is, hatred towards judaism and any jewish people, holocaust denialism, saying that we “deserved” the shoah or that “hitler was right”, that kind of thing — are all happening more and more in increasingly public spaces

Posted 3 months ago

sizequeen1:

estera-shirin:

estera-shirin:

Absolutely devastating news from Australia that at least 11 people were killed in an antisemitic attack on a Hanukkah celebration in Sydney. One of those who was murdered, Alex Kleytman z”l, was a Holocaust survivor. His wife, also a Holocaust survivor, saw as he was shot. I cannot imagine the grief and pain she and many others are feeling.

My heart is with all the victims and their loved ones, as well as the broader Jewish community in Australia. May the memories of the victims be a blessing.

We deserve to be able to congregate and observe Jewish holidays without fear of violence, in Australia and globally.

I also want to commend the courage of Ahmed al Ahmed, a man who happened to be walking by when the shooting began and rushed to disarm one of the shooters, despite being unarmed himself. Ahmed is the owner of a fruit shop and a father of two. He was shot twice during his brave intervention and is now in the hospital. I am praying for his swift recovery and the recovery of all the others who were injured in this attack.

It’s natural to express sympathy for any murdered person, but we also have to be aware that every condolence expressed in this instance feeds the justification for the Palestinian genocide and crackdowns on pro-Palestinian sentiment across the globe.

We also have to ask why this mass murder will receive 10,000 times more coverage than the 100+ Palestinian people murdered daily for nearly all of 2025 or the other Israeli atrocities too numerous to list over the last 26 months.

The genocide is ongoing. Keep your eye on the ball.

Just so it’s clear, the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the antisemitic murder of Jews can be bad at the same time. You can, and should, express horror and condolences for people being murdered for their faith and ethnicity. Not every piece of news about Jews needs to be “whatabouted” to be about Gaza. The genocide in Gaza is horrifying enough. The murder of Jews in Australia is horrifying enough. This is not a competition. These events do not somehow oppose one another. They are united in bigotry and cruelty, and discouraging treating the Jewish community with humanity in the “name” of protecting Palestinians doesn’t help anyone. It just adds to the cruelty, using Palestinians as a cudgel to hurt Jews, hurting both Jews and Palestinians in the process.

Either you oppose cruel and bigoted violence or you support it, as long as it’s against the “right” people. Oppose it. Oppose it against Jews. Oppose it against Palestinians. Oppose it against every other group that’s facing genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass violence.

Anything else only sets the stage for new victims.

Posted 6 years ago

chaos-yet-harmony:

ryuutchi:

apersnicketylemon:

cardentist:

afronerdism:

vivid-escapist:

thadeeliv:

starkillerrx:

armoredsoftie:

i love to headcanon steve as this aggressively progressive dude but like, he begged to be part of the us army,,,,,, we can’t just Forget That

He joined to literally fight Nazis the fuck you on about?

Minecraft lore is deeper than i remember

he was also like 20 and the Internet didn’t exist so besides the fact that fighting the Nazis was one of the few good things the military has ever done, just mayhaps Steve wasn’t fully briefed on the sins of US militarism and imperialism

I love that y’all think tha white people in the army in WWII joined to fight the evils of the Nazi party and not because of nationalism. The US sent minorities back to Germany to be gassed and only got involved after Germany threatened us.

captain america was created by joe simon and jack kirby, two jewish second generation immigrants. you can argue about what the character has come to represent culturally today but it’s absolutely insensitive to erase what the character was supposed to represent for the creators at the time.

hell this is the image on jack kirby’s wikipedia page next to the “entry into comics” section

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it was absolutely a political statement, and one that positioned america against fascism, against antisemitism, which is more than we can say for some modern media or even the orange stain running our country

I would also like to add, he was introduced, like this, while the USA was not in the war, and was selling weapons to Germany -among other things. It was a very dangerous, very unpopular statement to make at the time. People love to do the ‘punch Hitler’ thing now, but when Captain America was first released with this cover, this was an extremely controversial statement. 

Captain America was created in direct response to how the USA was reacting to the war at the time as a direct call to action against injustice specifically. Created by two Jewish men who were very much affected by all of this. They specifically designed him to look like he did because that was the ““Aryan Ideal”“ as part of that statement. That is why they made him blond, blue-eyed, white, tall, and muscular. They also called him ‘Captain America’ to implicitly tie the United States to this statement. This was a metaphor of ‘The USA has to stop letting others be hurt, it’s time to step up and do something’.

It’s not only insensitive to erase that, it’s Antisemitic to call a Jewish-made character that was a political statement against antisemitism in the 1940′s by people who were fed up with watching their loved ones die while people said they ‘shouldn’t get involved’ in a massive, global genocide attempt a ‘symbol of military industrial complex imperialism and nationalism’ when he was made as a symbol of resistance and a call to fight fascism and antisemitism.

Has anyone mentioned yet that American fascists were so pissed about Captain America that some American Nazis showed up at the Marvel offices to “show what Real Americans would do to Captain America”. Jack Kirby literally rolled up his sleeves and would have beaten the shit out of them if they hadn’t run off by the time he got to the lobby.

Like, fuck you if you refuse to accept that JEWISH AMERICANS created a character that is intended to protect Jews and other marginalized groups.

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Posted 6 years ago

socialistexan:

On Feb. 20th, 1939, the German-American Bund, an American Nazi party, held a giant rally at Madison Square Garden in NYC

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They adopted George Washington as their icon, calling him the “First Fascist.” Check out the “Fight Jewish Domination of Christian America” banner and the advertisement for the “Real Press” the “Free American” propaganda paper. 

And just like today there was a counter-protest outside, one that was met with heavily armed police

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Guess what happened when any of the Nazis so much as dared to step outside the Garden

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Yeah, punched in the jaw. Even the “American Fuhrer” Fritz Kuhn was rushed on the stage by a Jewish man who tried to, wait for it, punch him in the face.

And guess what the media called these people? “Rabid anti-Nazis” who “clashed with police.” They made the anti-Nazi side seem crazed and violent and the Nazis sympathetic victims just trying to Exercise Free Speech.

This was 1939. The height of Nazism in Germany, just before the Final Solution. Liberals chose to demonize Nazi punching in the 1930′s, but guess what? It worked then, and it’ll work now.

Punch Your Local Nazi

Posted 7 years ago
I haven't reblogged any of it or looked into it myself (or believed any of it), but can you elaborate? Maybe, in case it comes up in convo (cause I have a friend I think who believes it or has mentioned it to me)? If that's not too much to ask. (About Gal Gadot)
catswort-deactivated20221110 asked

qaftsiel:

ravenamore:

allofthefeelings:

highchaosmccree:

plandemonium:

So, there’s this trend that happens in liberal/activist spaces, where the second gentiles find out you’re Jewish, they no longer trust you unless you immediately, completely denounce every aspect of Israel down to its very existence. 

Example: at UCLA, a Jewish woman named Rachel Beyda applied for the student council. They interrogated her about whether she would be able to be “objective” because she was Jewish. They literally asked her, “Given that you are a Jewish student and very active in the Jewish community, how do you see yourself being able to maintain an unbiased view?”

I have experienced this interrogation and distrust personally, in activist spaces at UCSC. At one point I even made a Facebook post about it because I was curious if it was just me and discovered that every other Jewish person I know at UCSC had also experienced something similar. Leftists do not welcome or trust Jews who have any qualms about disavowing Israel. 

To be clear: I’m NOT talking about acknowledging that the Israeli government is committing human rights violations against Palestinians. That should be obvious, and isn’t inherently antisemitic. What IS antisemitic is this trend that has been going on for years in liberal activist spaces, where the second a Jewish person is involved in literally anything, ie Existing While Jewish, gentiles HAVE to bring up Israel, and quiz us on it until they’re satisfied that we have completely denounced it, including its right to exist. And if we don’t denounce every aspect of it to their satisfaction, then obviously we must support the genocide of Palestinians and are cast out of activist spaces. 

That’s what’s going on with Gal Godot. The plot of Wonder Woman had NOTHING to do with Israel or Palestine but because she is Israeli, because she served in the Israeli Army (which by the way, is mandatory, and also she served as a goddamn fitness instructor) gentiles are pouring out of the woodwork to deem her “problematic.” And I’m fucking pissed. 

Gentiles are encouraged to reblog this, because I am TIRED of seeing this shit in supposedly liberal spaces. We Jews can’t be the only ones calling this out. That’s a catch-22, because our opinions of Israel and antisemitism are ‘’’untrustworthy’’’. :)

I just want to add on to this that, if anyone is saying Gal Gadot advocates killing babies (and yes, I have seen that on Tumblr reblogs), that is
explicitly blood libel (yes, even if it comes from someone on the left), and I would really like to see goyim calling that out.

Guys, PLEASE pay attention to this. I’m seeing Jewish people report this more and more, and it is frightening. 

I think it’s even worse because, unlike earlier waves of anti-Semitism, which was common in highly insular conservative circles. it’s happening within the supposedly “diverse” multicultural left. When people who’ve established their image as open-minded to other races, POVs, cultures and religions start treading the well worn path of anti-Semitism, it starts slipping under the radar. 

It’s also harder to see when it’s being done by other oppressed groups. Not a lot of outrage in the gay community about the Jewish group tossed out of the Chicago Dyke March because the organizers thought the Star of David on their banner might offend people.

A pretty good amount of anti-Semitism shows up in Islamic groups, and it gets praised by leftist groups because they believe it shows support for Palestine. It’s either/or thinking, instead of both/and.

The idea that Jewish people are untrustworthy because of some sort of inborn divided loyalty, interrogating Jewish people about their loyalties, dividing them into “good” (those that readily denounce everything they’re told to in order to fit in) and “bad” (those that don’t denounce, or refuse to play ideological litmus tests), and penalizing the “bad” Jews…

This is how shit started almost 100 years ago, people. EXACTLY how it started. The “good Jew” was the one who assimilated perfectly into society, whose identity was subsumed, the “bad Jew” was the one who wanted to retain their Jewish identity and insisted their they could be both Jewish and a patriotic citizen of their country.

Giving “bad” Jews penalties, and encouraging the “good” Jews to lambast and guilt their brethren are what is starting to happen.

And for those that have gone ahead and made sure to denounce the “evils” of Israel in order to fit in, you should look at history and realize that the step after this is to remove the idea of the “good” Jew entirely, that all Jewish people are “irredeemable” in the ideological context in question, all are untrustworthy, and, thus, all should bear penalties. 

We all know how that one plays out. And for those of us Gentiles playing at home, you might want to take note that this mentality ALWAYS spreads. Jewish people walk point - they get hit first, and if we don’t come out and defend them, stop the advance right in its tracks, it’ll keep going.

Forget sending around the “punch a Nazi” shit. Speak up when you see this anti-Semitic shit pop up, call it what it is, and stop it dead. NO ONE deserves this. Ever. 

Three Jewish women were ejected outright from Chicago’s Dyke March on account of their rainbow flags emblazoned with a Star of David (not even an actual Israeli flag, or an adapted version– just a rainbow flag with the Star). I converted in– “oh wow you don’t look Jewish” and “oh did your boyfriend make you do it” are comments I’ve heard way too many times from people who are supposedly intersectional and above gross stereotyping based on appearance. I’ve been subjected to the “okay you’re Jewish but are you anti-Israel enough” interrogation several times, and there are leftist and queer spaces where I’ve heard open antisemitism and sweeping, unfair generalizations about Jewish political leanings. I confront it where I can, but it’s incredible how deeply ingrained and intractable these opinions are, and how quick people are to extend them to *all* Jews. 

Fact is, a lot of us think Netanyahu and his schmucks are heinous bastards, but we aren’t about to go and hate a whole damn country and people because of the government. Moreover, most of the Jews you’ll talk to weren’t even *alive* when they drew the goddamn maps way back when, and… and I should stop here, because it’s such a tangled fucking train-wreck of a situation that I’ll have written five white papers on it before I’m done. 

TL;DR? Leftist antisemitism is all too real, and it hurts like fuck. Please stand up to it.

Posted 8 years ago

brehaaorgana:

shut-up-hippie:

glumshoe:

frosttrix:

glumshoe:

I just saw the weirdest ad on YouTube. I thought it was for a new WWII video game, but it didn’t seem to be selling anything - it looked like some kind of weird pro-Poland propaganda and just said “Poland did a lot to save the Jews” and then ended with a hashtag about Germany.

What… what did I just watch, and why was it on a YouTube video about sea slugs in America?

as far as I can tell, poland has made it illegal (!) to accuse them of being complicit in any nazi activity which occurred on polish soil, most sensible people objected to this, and the polish government are now putting weird propaganda ads on american youtube for unclear reasons

Hey… Poland? What the fuck?

Yeah they’re basically pulling all the propaganda out that they can saying that they weren’t AT ALL complicit in the murder of Jews and Roma along with the Nazis.

This is a part of Poland’s massive push to erase their own complicity in the Holocaust, and in post-Holocaust antisemitic violence. It is part of Poland’s rising antisemitism. It’s not just American youtube, however. It’s also Israeli youtube. So essentially, Poland is targeting the two countries in the world which have the largest Jewish populations today with this propaganda campaign.

There are multiple advertisements doing this.  

I have yet to see one, but I will report any if they show up while I’m watching youtube. 

Basically, here is a quick timeline of current related events which make this propaganda campaign terrifying:

Posted 8 years ago

starlightomatic:

legally-bitchtastic:

tikkunolamorgtfo:

tariqah:

Not to be that gal but Winona (you know which one) has been someone who has been constantly vilified by Hollywood int he past 1 and a half decade to see her rise in limelight again with Stranger Things is like exhilarating after everything but also I wanna point out the fact that before all these leaks and all Winona very openly spoke about people like Johnny Depp being abusive assholes and Mel Gibson being an anti Semitic and homophobic bastard so like, half of the people who are now writing reports on Hollywood abuse scandals made fun of her claims or belittled her before

‘I was with my friend, who’s gay. [Mel Gibson] made a really horrible gay joke. And somehow it came up that I was Jewish. He said something about “oven dodgers,” but I didn’t get it [right away],’ Ryder admits of the slur, an ugly reference to the gas chambers employed to murder millions of Jewish prisoners at the camps during the Holocaust. “I’d never heard that before. It was just this weird, weird moment. I was like, “He’s anti-Semitic and he’s homophobic.” No one believed me!’

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Mel Gibson is starring in a feel good family Christmas movie this year like nothing fucking happened

To be fair, antisemitism is a Christmas tradition

Posted 8 years ago

“Killing Jews” was just listed as a leading component of “Republican values” in Charlottesville

jewish-mccoy:

starlightomatic:

tikkunolamorgtfo:

In this video from the Washington Post on the horrific situation in Charlottesville, white nationalist Sean Patrick Nielsen said that in addition to “standing up for local white identity” and “the free market,” his top value as a Republican was killing Jews:

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This is how accepted anti-Semitism is. These monsters are so comfortable in support for their Judenhasse that they are literally unafraid to give their names to a major news outlet or to show their faces to an international audience and declare that they want to murder Jewish people. And I worry one day the rest of the world will let them—again

Maybe my non-Jewish followers could reblog this

Y'all better stop saying Jews aren’t a target

Posted 8 years ago

I have some thoughts about Chicago Pride

progressivejudaism:

caseykleinlife:

jewish-mccoy:

itsahardfemmelife:

jewish-privilege:

tikkunolamorgtfo:

jewish-mccoy:

  1. The Chicago Dyke March included everyone–except Jews
  2. This was because they made people feel “unsafe”
  3. People were claiming “pinkwashing”
  4. THEY USED THE STAR OF DAVID AS A COMPARISON TO THE SWASTIKA 
  5. “Well done Israel–Hitler would be proud” 

I hope you all are really proud of yourselves.

I’m so mad, I can’t even fully put it into words. One of the marchers they ejected was a Queer Iranian Jewish women:

“I was here as a proud Jew in all of my identities,” [Eleanor] Shoshany-Anderson asserted. “The Dyke March is supposed to be intersectional. I don’t know why my identity is excluded from that. I fell that, as a Jew, I am not welcome here.”

The Magen David on a pride flag isn’t anymore triggering than any other religious symbol on a pride flag.

I used to live in Chicago and I know for a fact that the Wellington Avenue United Church of Christ has not only participated in Dyke March in the past, but that their Pastor has done events on their behalf at the Broadway Youth Center, as one of my former colleagues was in the congregation. Lots of people from all walks of life have been persecuted under Christianity—is that not triggering?

I’ve seen the Crescent on pride flags before for LGBTQ Muslims. Why isn’t that considered triggering to Kurds because it’s on the Turkish flag? Or triggering to Jews whose families were expelled from places like Algeria and Tunisia, which also have the Crescent on their national flags?

Maybe—just maybe—it’s nothing to do with protecting people and everything to do with hating Jews.

Update from Chicagoist;

Update: Iliana Figueroa, a Dyke March Collective member, spoke to Chicagoist Sunday afternoon about the mounting criticisms on social media that Dyke March is facing in the wake of the march for the decision to ask the three people to leave. She says the Dyke March Collective is not anti-Semitic, and the decision reflected the members’ desire to support pro-Palestinian participants who believed the flags symbolized Zionism.

“Yesterday during the rally we saw three individuals carrying Israeli flags super imposed on rainbow flags. Some folks say they are Jewish Pride flags. But as a Collective we are very much pro-Palestine, and when we see these flags we know a lot of folks who are under attack by Israel see the visuals of the flag as a threat, so we don’t want anything in the [Dyke March] space that can inadvertently or advertently express Zionism,” she said. “So we asked the folks to please leave. We told them people in the space were feeling threatened.”
Figueroa also said she gave the people her cell phone number and offered to discuss the decision with them more later. She added that they didn’t leave immediately, but stayed at the Dyke March rally for “a few hours.”
Figueroa added that the collective will release a statement on the incident after it finishes crafting one, and that members have asked pro-Palestinian organizations and others to release statements of solidarity with Dyke March as well. In the meantime, the collective is facing accusations of anti-semitism on social media.
Chicagoist is working to contact the people who were asked to leave, and will update this post if we hear back.

Okay what I’m getting here is that some non-Jewish, non-Palestinians saw a Star of David and immediately thought “ISRAEL,” decided that the best thing to do was kick them out of the parade preemptively because a religious symbol on a pride rainbow may trigger Palestinians, but they didn’t care at all how kicking out LGBT Jewish people out of a pride parade would trigger Jewish people. Oh but they aren’t antisemitic. Oh and also they’re asking for pro-Palestinian organizations to release statements of solidarity, but not Jewish organizations (whether pro-Palestine or not).

So in other words, you can be Jewish and LGBT, but only if you aren’t outwardly and publicly Jewish because you might “inadvertently…express Zionism.” (Dollars to donuts they wouldn’t be able to accurately express what Zionism is or would be befuddled that you can be a Zionist and also pro-Palestinian.)

Got it. They don’t care about Jewish people. Cool.

I have lots of thoughts about this particular situation that I’ll write later but first thought is … you can’t be Zionist and pro-Palestinian

Actually you can! Stay tuned, you can have nuanced politics! Zionism is not, oh, we hate Palestinians. And thanks for proving our point that leftists never trust Jews.

It wasn’t an Israeli flag…but so what if it was? What if someone had an Iranian, Chinese, Russian…or any other of the MANY MANY MANY countries that have human rights violations? Would they be asked to leave? I don’t think so. I find it disgusting that people’s main argument explaining how wrong this is can be summed up as “We’re jewish but not Israeli so its cool” uh, no its not. Holding people accountable (especially LGBT people at a march in the US) for a governments doings is wrong and would never be tolerated anywhere else yet BDS has made this their common practice.

I know the jewish marchers were not Israeli but I am sick of it being ok to throw a whole group of people under the bus and this outrageous double standard. 

This is a brilliant post. Thank you all who have contributed.

Posted 8 years ago

stellaathena:

rose-in-a-fisted-glove:

happy-knight:

The fuck is up with this person trying to make an actual project to represent the characters from series of unfortunate events as Jewish? I’ve read over 5 of books from the series and I’m pretty fucking sure there is no character that is actually a Jew within the entire fucking story. How delusional do you have to be to slap a specific group of people to a story that isn’t even yours or about them for the sake of satisfying your representational needs? If you want a story with Jews so bad go make a fucking story about them and stop trying to push your delusional agenda to other people

You apparently need to work on your critical reading skills. There are mentions of B’nai Mitzvas and Rabbi and Jewish themes throughout the series. And if that’s not enough, the Baudelaires are a Jewish family as stated by Snicket himself. Most of his characters are Jewish which is not surprising considering the man himself is Jewish. 

You should instead ask yourself how delusional you have to be to slap a specific group of people to a story that isn’t even yours or about you? Why is it that you feel so threatened by having a Jewish story by a Jewish man continue to remain Jewish in it’s television interpretations? 

And to cut you off at the pass, here’s an interview where Snicket talks about how the Baudelaires are Jewish and how the entire story plays from Jewish themes. 

http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Jewish-Secrets-of-Lemony-Snicket?offset=1&max=1themes. http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Jewish-Secrets-of-Lemony-Snicket?offset=1&max=1

“f you want a story with Jews so bad go make a fucking story about them and stop trying to push your delusional agenda to other people”

We literally just did and you’re complaining about it