{"old":1,"dispname":0,"dispsod":1,"die":"01日11:16","dielong":"Thu, 01 Jan 1970 02:16:03 GMT","nowtime":1773594221,"maxres":"","res":{"1411172627":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:47:53","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> ほいメルト<\/font>
オリジナル曲以外の歌詞が物語に必ずリンクしているということにした場合
ハッピーシンセサイザの時点でかぐやが失恋してたことになっちゃうが…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586073046","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":1,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172675":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:03","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">恋愛文脈で見てるけどセックスは物理的に無理だとは正直思ってる<\/font>
>片方お手製アンドロイドだぜ？<\/font>
アンドロイドは経験人数に入りますか？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586083244","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":2,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172721":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:12","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">おっさん主人公モノの需要自体はあるだろうけどこれと相性が悪すぎる…<\/font>
そっち方面でハッピーエンドかぐや姫作ること自体はありありなんだけど当たる内容はこっちとは別物になるだろうね","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586092815","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":3,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172737":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:16","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"人生を捧げるというか
人生のコンパスになるというか","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586096164","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":4,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172846":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:38","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>恋愛文脈で見てるけどセックスは物理的に無理だとは正直思ってる<\/font>
>>片方お手製アンドロイドだぜ？<\/font>
>アンドロイドは経験人数に入りますか？<\/font>
あれは開発者の出力狂ってるけどマジで凄いアンドロイドなので…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586118724","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":5,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172864":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:41","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>おっさん主人公モノの需要自体はあるだろうけどこれと相性が悪すぎる…<\/font>
>剣星みたいなハーレム派生型とか<\/font>
親子ぐらい歳の離れた二人のロードムービーっていうのも最近存在しないしな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586121272","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":6,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172926":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:52","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">恋愛文脈で見てるけどセックスは物理的に無理だとは正直思ってる<\/font>
>片方お手製アンドロイドだぜ？<\/font>
アンドロイドに味覚と触覚実装しようとしてる女だぞ
そしてあのアンドロイド起きぬけにヨダレ垂らしてるぞ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586132022","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":7,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172937":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:54","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">片方お手製アンドロイドだぜ？<\/font>
…？なぜ身体が機械だとセックスができないのだ…？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586134542","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":8,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172941":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:55","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"というか二次創作なんて各自の解釈で作っていいんだから別になんでも良くない？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586135330","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":9,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172950":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:48:57","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"正直彩葉ならそのうち完全な生身作れても驚かない…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586137220","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":10,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172967":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:00","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">二次創作だから描きたい人の自由でいいんだけど<\/font>
>二人の関係には性行為とか要らねえんだよって気持ちはずっと持ってる<\/font>
例え彩葉があの後男と結婚したとしてもふたりの関係性は何も変わらないからな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586140495","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":11,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172976":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:01","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"メルトもハピシンも歌詞的には片思いなんだしアニメの内容に沿った曲ではないだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586141209","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":12,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172977":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:01","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"アンドリューNDR114を履修してると人外が人間になる過程の中にはセックスも含まれてて当然だよなという気持ちになる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586141230","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":13,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411172982":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:02","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> 人として生きたいと願うかぐやとの関係から過剰に性関係を取り除こうというのも不自然だと思うがなぁ<\/font>
>別に勝手だけどさ<\/font>
世の中の親友は一般的にセックスしてない例の方が多いから…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586142526","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":14,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173015":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:08","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">> ほいメルト<\/font>
>オリジナル曲以外の歌詞が物語に必ずリンクしているということにした場合<\/font>
>ハッピーシンセサイザの時点でかぐやが失恋してたことになっちゃうが…<\/font>
ヤチヨだったらもっと虜にできたのかなの文脈マシマシでお月様へ帰るので","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586148156","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":15,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173039":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:12","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">二次創作だから描きたい人の自由でいいんだけど<\/font>
>二人の関係には性行為とか要らねえんだよって気持ちはずっと持ってる<\/font>
だから本編からは徹底的にそういう要素省いたし
省かれたからこそそういう二次創作が盛り上がるという構図になってるから
まぁ分けて無視する他ないよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586152265","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":16,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173061":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:16","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">二次創作だから描きたい人の自由でいいんだけど<\/font>
>二人の関係には性行為とか要らねえんだよって気持ちはずっと持ってる<\/font>
わかる
関係云々というか単純に俺は好きなキャラのセックス見たくない","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586156394","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":17,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173094":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:20","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"英語字幕にすると凄いぞ
「いろは大好き」が「Iroha. I love you so much.」だ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586160428","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":18,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173244":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:44","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>二次創作だから描きたい人の自由でいいんだけど<\/font>
>>二人の関係には性行為とか要らねえんだよって気持ちはずっと持ってる<\/font>
>わかる<\/font>
>関係云々というか単純に俺は好きなキャラのセックス見たくない<\/font>
突然童貞みたいな事を","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586184510","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":19,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173261":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:47","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">世の中の親友は一般的にセックスしてない例の方が多いから…<\/font>
どこが一般的な親友関係なんだこの二人！","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586187556","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":20,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173287":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:49:51","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">メルトもハピシンも歌詞的には片思いなんだしアニメの内容に沿った曲ではないだろ<\/font>
ラブラブなくせになぜかお互いに片想いだと思い込んでたのが終盤までのいろかぐだぞ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586191771","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":21,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173417":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:50:13","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"カカロットだって子供作る世の中だぜ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586213941","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":22,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173485":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:50:27","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"ハピシンは片思いじゃなく失恋の曲だろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586227037","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":23,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173529":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:50:35","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">英語字幕にすると凄いぞ<\/font>
>「いろは大好き」が「Iroha. I love you so much.」だ<\/font>
よかった
Let's SEX.じゃなかったんだ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586235402","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":24,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173542":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:50:38","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> ラブラブなくせになぜかお互いに片想いだと思い込んでたのが終盤までのいろかぐだぞ<\/font>
じゃあやっぱり両思い確認済みのED時点でメルトはおかしいじゃねえか","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586238045","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":25,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173569":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:50:43","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586243325","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":26,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173599":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:50:49","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">オリジナル曲以外の歌詞が物語に必ずリンクしているということにした場合<\/font>
>ハッピーシンセサイザの時点でかぐやが失恋してたことになっちゃうが…<\/font>
かぐや視点では片思いのまま別れたから実質失恋だよ
それが解消されたのは彩葉がかぐやと一緒に居たいって言った瞬間","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586249436","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":27,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173811":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:51:31","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">英語字幕にすると凄いぞ<\/font>
>「いろは大好き」が「Iroha. I love you so much.」だ<\/font>
いやでもシンプルな日本語が美しいなって思いますよ私は","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586291589","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":28,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173840":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:51:36","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"毎日同じ布団で寝てる相手から好き、結婚しようって言われて承諾する関係のどこがただの友達やねんと冷静に突っ込む俺","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586296989","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":29,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173886":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:51:48","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"別にセックスが無いからといって百合が損なわれるわけじゃねえんだ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586308376","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":30,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173932":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:51:57","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"虜にしてしまうとメリバする罠","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586317011","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":31,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173951":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:52:00","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">> ラブラブなくせになぜかお互いに片想いだと思い込んでたのが終盤までのいろかぐだぞ<\/font>
>じゃあやっぱり両思い確認済みのED時点でメルトはおかしいじゃねえか<\/font>
これに関してはボカロ曲をプッシュしててボカロの中での恋愛ソングってなんですか？って聞いたらいの一番にメルトが出てくると思うぞ
それだけの話じゃないかな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586320408","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":32,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411173989":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:52:05","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">じゃあやっぱり両思い確認済みのED時点でメルトはおかしいじゃねえか<\/font>
別にED時点での関係性を歌ってなきゃいけない道理もないと思うが","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586325195","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":33,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174148":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:52:33","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ<\/font>
それはただお前がスケベみたいだけだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586353464","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":34,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174245":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:52:51","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ<\/font>
>それはただお前がスケベみたいだけだろ<\/font>
見たい！","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586371310","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":35,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174246":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:52:51","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"じゃあ結局ハピシンは流れたとこでは無関係な内容の曲ってことじゃん","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586371896","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":36,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174316":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:02","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"一般的に考えて「彩葉と結婚しちゃおっかなー！」に対して「生活費折半ならね…」はもうアレじゃんとしか思えないだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586382411","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":37,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174335":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:04","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"今日は家族派
明日は友情派
明後日は恋愛派","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586384603","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":38,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174349":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:07","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"そもそも別離から立ち直るビターエンドな歌であるrayをそのままの解釈で使ってない作品なので…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586387562","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":39,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174360":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:09","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">それはただお前がスケベみたいだけだろ<\/font>
ああ
いろかぐのレズセックス見たい！！！","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586389416","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":40,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174388":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:15","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ<\/font>
>それはただお前がスケベみたいだけだろ<\/font>
恋愛描写＝スケベってどういうこと…？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586395782","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":41,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174420":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:22","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"下手に綺麗なセックス描かれても
もっと汁気たっぷりじゃなきゃやだー！って解釈違い起こす人も出てくるだろう","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586402707","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":42,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174465":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:30","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ<\/font>
そこら辺は別の作品で摂取すればええんでないの
大前提としてはエンタメ作品な訳だし","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586410666","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":43,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174506":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:40","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"恋愛と見做される要素を入れなくても百合は百合と視聴者に認識される
今のアニメでギルドとか魔王について作中で解説入れる必要が無いのと一緒","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586420997","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":44,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174554":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:53:50","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> かぐや視点では片思いのまま別れたから実質失恋だよ<\/font>
>それが解消されたのは彩葉がかぐやと一緒に居たいって言った瞬間<\/font>
それはかぐやが帰った時に成立した話であって
月人との接触どころかコラボライブすらやってないハッピーシンセサイザの時点で「儚く散った淡い片想い　笑い話だね今となれば　見るもの全て輝いて見えた　あの日々が綺麗に笑ってるよ」なんて心境にかぐやがなってる訳なくない？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586430284","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":45,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174604":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:00","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"百合じゃない！という見解への反論としてのメルトだからそこに両想いかどうかというエッセンスは含まれてない","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586440473","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":46,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174615":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:03","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">毎日同じ布団で寝てる相手から好き、結婚しようって言われて承諾する関係のどこがただの友達やねんと冷静に突っ込む俺<\/font>
まぁ女同士の友情はそんなもんではある","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586443217","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":47,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174639":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:07","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"彩葉とかぐやがそういう仲でないなら10年後の芦花はきっともっと別のポジションを獲得していたと思うよ
芦花のあの設定に関してはそういう外堀を埋める目的もあると思うし、それをさらに強固にするために真実には彼氏がいる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586447378","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":48,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174659":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:10","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"そりゃクィアベイティングだって叩かれますわ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586450567","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":49,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174710":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:18","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">一般的に考えて「彩葉と結婚しちゃおっかなー！」に対して「生活費折半ならね…」はもうアレじゃんとしか思えないだろ<\/font>
これやってといて恋愛的な要素は抑えたって言ってるのだいぶ適当こいてない？って思ってる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586458831","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":50,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174775":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:28","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"というかrayのジェラピケのところでセックスしてた
映像に映ってないだけ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586468981","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":51,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411174960":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:54:57","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>>結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ<\/font>
>>それはただお前がスケベみたいだけだろ<\/font>
>恋愛描写＝スケベってどういうこと…？<\/font>
スケベ以外の恋愛要素は作中に大量に散りばめられれただろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586497275","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":52,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175074":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:55:13","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"作り手の人は愛の話がどうとかって言いながら恋愛の方は否定するんだねってとこにかなりモヤモヤしてるのはあります","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586513478","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":53,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175130":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:55:21","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> これに関してはボカロ曲をプッシュしててボカロの中での恋愛ソングってなんですか？って聞いたらいの一番にメルトが出てくると思うぞ<\/font>
>それだけの話じゃないかな<\/font>
俺もそれだけの話だと思うから
メルトが最後に流れたことを根拠にしてこれはかぐや（彩葉）の心境を表してるんです！　って意見に異論があったことを言いたかった","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586521520","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":54,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175162":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:55:26","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>毎日同じ布団で寝てる相手から好き、結婚しようって言われて承諾する関係のどこがただの友達やねんと冷静に突っ込む俺<\/font>
>まぁ女同士の友情はそんなもんではある<\/font>
クソマジレスするけどおっさんに何が分かんねん…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586526262","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":55,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175182":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:55:28","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"これってシーライオニングしてる感じ？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586528828","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":56,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175191":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:55:30","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"だから仮に恋愛感情が存在しなかったとしてもそれはそれとして百合は成立するって言ってるでしょうが！！！","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586530587","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":57,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175243":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:55:41","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":""本物"見せてやれよお兄ちゃん","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586541359","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":58,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175330":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:01","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"彩葉はかぐいろに恋してるしかぐいろは彩葉に恋してるようにしか見えないけどこれ恋愛以外に思う人いるんだ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586561491","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":59,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175345":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:05","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">これやってといて恋愛的な要素は抑えたって言ってるのだいぶ適当こいてない？って思ってる<\/font>
出ないように配慮しました
出た","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586565022","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":60,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175450":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:25","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>>>結局女同士の直接的な恋愛描写は描かないんだなってガッカリ感あったわ<\/font>
>>>それはただお前がスケベみたいだけだろ<\/font>
>>恋愛描写＝スケベってどういうこと…？<\/font>
>スケベ以外の恋愛要素は作中に大量に散りばめられれただろ<\/font>
いやでも結局匂わせ止まりだよねガッカリって感じなんだ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586585331","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":61,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175489":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:30","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"配慮したって言ってるだけで出ないとは言ってない","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586590872","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":62,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175493":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:31","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">そりゃクィアベイティングだって叩かれますわ<\/font>
知ったばかりの言葉を意気揚々と使っても馬鹿だとしか思われないですよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586591921","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":63,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175505":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:34","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">作り手の人は愛の話がどうとかって言いながら恋愛の方は否定するんだねってとこにかなりモヤモヤしてるのはあります<\/font>
公式に同性愛を明言したらポリコレな方に波及して燃えるからだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586594038","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":64,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175509":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:34","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">彩葉はかぐいろに恋してるしかぐいろは彩葉に恋してるようにしか見えないけどこれ恋愛以外に思う人いるんだ<\/font>
別にいいけどかぐやちでは？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586594542","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":65,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175530":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:39","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"小説で抑えてないなら良くない？
目くじら立てる事でもないと思うが","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586599268","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":66,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175535":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:40","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"恋愛のエッセンスが出ないようにしたってのは別に恋愛を否定してる訳ではないと思うけども
作品の根本の部分がラブストーリーって事にはならないようにしたって話だと理解してたけど違うんかな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586600766","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":67,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175590":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:51","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"わたなれみたいなド直球百合作品にも百合認定したがらない人がいたしな
百合作品がヒットするの嫌なんだと思うよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586611320","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":68,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175597":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:52","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">作り手の人は愛の話がどうとかって言いながら恋愛の方は否定するんだねってとこにかなりモヤモヤしてるのはあります<\/font>
愛の話が恋愛の話一直線に固定化されないようにってのはあるんじゃない？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586612388","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":69,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175606":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:53","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"野暮ってもんがわからんのかねぇ...","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586613579","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":70,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175611":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:56:54","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>彩葉はかぐいろに恋してるしかぐいろは彩葉に恋してるようにしか見えないけどこれ恋愛以外に思う人いるんだ<\/font>
>別にいいけどかぐやちでは？<\/font>
ごめん書き間違った","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586614581","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":71,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175703":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:57:06","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">"本物"見せてやれよお兄ちゃん<\/font>
監督の発言でゲイカップルから単なる仲良しの友達同士程度まで格下げされたよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586626059","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":72,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175974":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:57:55","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">恋愛のエッセンスが出ないようにしたってのは別に恋愛を否定してる訳ではないと思うけども<\/font>
>作品の根本の部分がラブストーリーって事にはならないようにしたって話だと理解してたけど違うんかな<\/font>
俺もそれであってると思うよ
恋愛が成就するかどうかが主題ではなく2人が一緒になるのはもはや当然でその先で何を成すかが大事だし","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586675804","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":73,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411175981":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:57:56","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> いやでも結局匂わせ止まりだよねガッカリって感じなんだ<\/font>
女性の同性愛を真正面から書いて恋愛要素モリモリな作品は他にあるからそっちを見れば
世の中にたくさん作品がある中で超かぐや姫がそうではなかったというだけのことにがっかりされても","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586676971","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":74,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176062":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:58:16","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"じゃあ監督監修ノベライズの孫なし確定の記述はどう説明するの？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586696122","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":75,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176072":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:58:17","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">だから仮に恋愛感情が存在しなかったとしてもそれはそれとして百合は成立するって言ってるでしょうが！！！<\/font>
それは百合の定義論の話であって超かぐや姫という作品の考察とはあまり関係ないと思う","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586697995","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":76,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176076":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:58:18","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"なんで令和に百合レズ論争が巻き起こってるんだよ…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586698412","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":77,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176100":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:58:22","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">彩葉はかぐいろに恋してるしかぐいろは彩葉に恋してるようにしか見えないけどこれ恋愛以外に思う人いるんだ<\/font>
おむつを替えた間柄でもあるし
同居家族でもあるし
騒がしい厄介者でもあるし
深い親友でもあるし
その他諸々色んな感情があるし
そういう一言で言えない関係性だと思ってるよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586702553","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":78,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176124":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:58:26","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">小説で抑えてないなら良くない？<\/font>
>目くじら立てる事でもないと思うが<\/font>
そっちはそっちで出しすぎ…ありがとう…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586706845","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":79,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176300":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:59:01","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">じゃあ監督監修ノベライズの孫なし確定の記述はどう説明するの？<\/font>
もう大衆向けに誤魔化さなくてもいいよね！よし！した結果","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586741856","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":80,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176408":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:59:22","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"男であっても恋愛要素は排除したんじゃないか？というか恋愛あじ薄くするために女にしたんじゃないか？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586762617","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":81,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176427":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:59:25","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">なんで令和に百合レズ論争が巻き起こってるんだよ…<\/font>
その手の論争が巻き起こるのって昭和や平成より令和の方が多くね？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586765452","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":82,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176428":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:59:25","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">じゃあ監督監修ノベライズの孫なし確定の記述はどう説明するの？<\/font>
ジョークの範疇ってだけですね","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586765515","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":83,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176464":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:59:31","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"女性同士の恋愛が売りの作品として期待して見た人ならまぁがっかりする可能性はあるとは思うが
最初から勘違いだなその場合は","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586771101","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":84,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176515":{"now":"26\/03\/15(日)23:59:39","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"世の中にはキスやセックスみたいな直接的な描写を入れないと恋愛ものだと認識できない人がまあまあいる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586779598","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":85,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176674":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:08","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"よく言われることだが小説版と映画版の設定は必ずしも一致してないからイコールではないと念頭においた方がいい","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586808424","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":86,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176704":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:12","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>じゃあ監督監修ノベライズの孫なし確定の記述はどう説明するの？<\/font>
>ジョークの範疇ってだけですね<\/font>
まあ公式ではないわな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586812082","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":87,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176817":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:30","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"前に小説版にこんな記述がある！って堂々と嘘ついてまで百合否定してたやついたな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586830995","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":88,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176852":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:35","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">世の中にたくさん作品がある中で超かぐや姫がそうではなかったというだけのことにがっかりされても<\/font>
それがオリジナルアニメだとほとんどないんですよね
漫画小説原作のアニメ化だと大体本格化する前に終わるし","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586835592","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":89,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176859":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:36","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">それは百合の定義論の話であって超かぐや姫という作品の考察とはあまり関係ないと思う<\/font>
超かぐや姫に恋愛感情が含まれるか否かというのは些事なのだ
いろはとかぐやの関係性は二人だけのものであり唯一無二のものなのだ
その関係性そのものが百合なのだ
恋愛感情が薄いとしても別に二人の関係性が損なわれることはないのだ
この関係性こそが百合なのだ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586836943","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":90,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176890":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:41","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">よく言われることだが小説版と映画版の設定は必ずしも一致してないからイコールではないと念頭においた方がいい<\/font>
後半とか明らかに矛盾点あるしなあ
監督本人が書いたわけでもないし","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586841814","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":91,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176975":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:56","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">よく言われることだが小説版と映画版の設定は必ずしも一致してないからイコールではないと念頭においた方がいい<\/font>
彩葉視点だから一部描写変えてるだけで設定は変わらんだろ！","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586856607","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":92,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176985":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:58","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">監督の発言でゲイカップルから単なる仲良しの友達同士程度まで格下げされたよ<\/font>
え？新しい情報あったの？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586858203","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":93,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411176987":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:00:58","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"監督的には家族愛も友愛もいいけど同性愛はだめってだけだよね","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586858549","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":94,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177030":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:01:06","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">No.1411171233<\/font>
いつもの病人のコピペ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586866497","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":95,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177148":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:01:27","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">女性同士の恋愛が売りの作品として期待して見た人ならまぁがっかりする可能性はあるとは思うが<\/font>
マジレスするとボカロ要素で見に来てる割合のほうが多いと思う","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586887179","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":96,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177154":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:01:28","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"書き込みをした人によって削除されました<\/font>","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586888003","fsize":0,"del":"selfdel","host":"","id":"","rsc":97,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177334":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:00","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"小説版は本編じゃないって言ってたやつがID出ていつものゴミだったな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586920255","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":98,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177363":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:06","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"分かりやすいなあ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586926369","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":99,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177408":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:15","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"さっきから適当なことほざいてまで恋愛じゃない！！ってことにしたがってるのバレバレなんですよ百合嫌いさん","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586935434","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":100,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177422":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:18","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">監督の対談のおかげで百合好きの勢い一気に落ちたからかなりありがたかった<\/font>
>二次創作で好きにしてるのはいいけど本編を百合だと言われると猛反発しちゃうから<\/font>
嘘に嘘を重ねて現実改変図るのはあまりに無理無茶無謀なんじゃないかとずっと思ってる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586938378","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":101,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177473":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:28","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">それがオリジナルアニメだとほとんどないんですよね<\/font>
>漫画小説原作のアニメ化だと大体本格化する前に終わるし<\/font>
勝手にオリジナルアニメ映画に条件を縛って
その中に自分が望む作品がないと不満を抱くのはもう自己責任だろ…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586948035","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":102,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177546":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:43","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"真美みたいな普通の子と色々ある人ってインタビューで言ったしまぁそういうことだろうとしか","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586963512","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":103,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177592":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:53","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"ノベライズは普通に描写変えてるとこはあるよ
監修してるから正史というわけではない","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586973854","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":104,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177627":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:02:59","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"スレで100回同じこと言っても事実にはならないのに…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586979149","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":105,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177645":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:02","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"百合嫌いの人って結局ヒットして話題になった作品にしか湧かないんだもの
「不思議な国でアリスと」や「この本を盗むものは」のスレにはそんなん出てこなかったぞ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586982702","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":106,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177674":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:09","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"キスしてないかといえば（精神的に）キスしてるし
あれを恋愛ではなく親愛って言うのはあまりにも結論ありきだと思う","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586989228","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":107,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177691":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:12","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"公式ノベライズが公式じゃないってもう何言ってるのか自分でもわかってないだろ…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773586992363","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":108,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177813":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:33","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"芦花の特別な感情の事を恋愛の事じゃない！って頑張って否定してた奴いたなあ…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587013173","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":109,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177823":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:35","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"> 彩葉視点だから一部描写変えてるだけで設定は変わらんだろ！<\/font>
FUSHIの性能とか最初に作られた義体とか明確に設定変わってるポイントはある","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587015384","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":110,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177885":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:44","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"芦花に特別な感情を持たせておいてどの口が案件","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587024836","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":111,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411177949":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:03:56","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">さっきから適当なことほざいてまで恋愛じゃない！！ってことにしたがってるのバレバレなんですよ百合嫌いさん<\/font>
こう言うの出てくると本格的に百合なんだなぁって思いましたまる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587036566","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":112,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178040":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:04:12","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">百合嫌いの人って結局ヒットして話題になった作品にしか湧かないんだもの<\/font>
>「不思議な国でアリスと」や「この本を盗むものは」のスレにはそんなん出てこなかったぞ<\/font>
カタログで目についたからというターゲティングなのわかりやすい","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587052775","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":113,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178064":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:04:18","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">公式ノベライズが公式じゃないってもう何言ってるのか自分でもわかってないだろ…<\/font>
監督本人が書いてるわけでもないしせいぜい半公式くらいだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587058738","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":114,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178107":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:04:29","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">芦花の特別な感情の事を恋愛の事じゃない！って頑張って否定してた奴いたなあ…<\/font>
じゃあマジで何の感情なんだよって話である","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587069295","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":115,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178123":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:04:32","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">百合嫌いの人って結局ヒットして話題になった作品にしか湧かないんだもの<\/font>
>「不思議な国でアリスと」や「この本を盗むものは」のスレにはそんなん出てこなかったぞ<\/font>
わざと逆張りして人を怒らせて構って欲しいだけなんだもん
人の集まるところにわざわざ湧いてきて叩かれるのが趣味な悍ましいマゾホモ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587072280","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":116,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178208":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:04:46","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"他のコンテンツのスレでもやたらと百合に対して粘着するスレ立てては敗走してる粘着がいるし、なんかもう荒らしはそういう傾向になるんだろうな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587086440","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":117,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178263":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:04:57","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">公式ノベライズが公式じゃないってもう何言ってるのか自分でもわかってないだろ…<\/font>
小説どころか公式サイトの対談すら読んでないと思う","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587097029","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":118,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178393":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:05:23","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"さっきウマ娘に粘着してたやつ今はこっちで暴れてんのか","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587123225","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":119,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178472":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:05:40","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"そもそもこのしょうもないレスすら読めないんだろうし雑誌や小説は読めないでしょ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587140529","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":120,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178485":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:05:42","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">芦花の特別な感情の事を恋愛の事じゃない！って頑張って否定してた奴いたなあ…<\/font>
否定するわけじゃないけど
特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587142476","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":121,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178710":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:06:20","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"小説の設定は公式設定だけども＝アニメの設定って話ではないよね
公式設定＝全メディアミックス作品共通設定ってなるかどうかは作品次第ってこと","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587180298","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":122,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178731":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:06:23","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"特定のどれかというより恋愛も家族愛も友愛も全部含んでるのよねこの二人
パンケーキ買って行ってやるかってなってる時は母性感じてるし度々見た目で堕ちそうになったり結婚しよっかなの時は恋愛が出てるし
一言でこれだ！って関係ではない気がするしそこが味わい深い","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587183851","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":123,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178860":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:06:40","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>公式ノベライズが公式じゃないってもう何言ってるのか自分でもわかってないだろ…<\/font>
>監督本人が書いてるわけでもないしせいぜい半公式くらいだろ<\/font>
監督と何度も打ち合わせして
この場面ってこういうことですか？って1つ質問すると返答20個返ってくるほど濃密に監督の見解が反映されてるのに無茶すぎる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587200762","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":124,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178870":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:06:42","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">否定するわけじゃないけど<\/font>
>特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある<\/font>
そこはもう創作上のお約束というか定型句みたいなもんだからしゃーない","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587202503","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":125,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178964":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:00","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>芦花の特別な感情の事を恋愛の事じゃない！って頑張って否定してた奴いたなあ…<\/font>
>否定するわけじゃないけど<\/font>
>特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある<\/font>
じゃあどんな感情の事なのか教えてくれ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587220414","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":126,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178977":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:01","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">小説どころか公式サイトの対談すら読んでないと思う<\/font>
ここのスレで見聞きしたことを自分の都合の良いように解釈して尾鰭付けて垂れ流すからな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587221666","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":127,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178983":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:03","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある<\/font>
いやだって親友って間柄のキャラが二人いてわざわざ一人だけ「特別な感情を」でしょ…？じゃあそれもう恋愛感情か実は憎んでるかしかないじゃん","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587223080","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":128,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411178985":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:03","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"単にimgで百合が流行ってるのが気に入らないだけなんだと思うぜ
あと割と昔から現実改変系のレスが多いの多分自分の世界がimgにしかなさそう","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587223834","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":129,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179139":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:30","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"又聞きで小説版の事で適当こいてたら普通にバレてID出されてた奴と同じだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587250847","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":130,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179198":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:41","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">特定のどれかというより恋愛も家族愛も友愛も全部含んでるのよねこの二人<\/font>
>パンケーキ買って行ってやるかってなってる時は母性感じてるし度々見た目で堕ちそうになったり結婚しよっかなの時は恋愛が出てるし<\/font>
>一言でこれだ！って関係ではない気がするしそこが味わい深い<\/font>
でも監督は恋愛は出したくないみたいですよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587261160","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":131,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179250":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:51","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある<\/font>
自分の見解を理由とセットで書かないとただの逆張りだぞ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587271161","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":132,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179253":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:07:51","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"粘着してるヤツ本編見てすらいなさそうだよね","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587271770","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":133,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179336":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:07","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>>芦花の特別な感情の事を恋愛の事じゃない！って頑張って否定してた奴いたなあ…<\/font>
>>否定するわけじゃないけど<\/font>
>>特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある<\/font>
>じゃあどんな感情の事なのか教えてくれ<\/font>
い…妹みたいに思ってるとか…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587287595","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":134,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179365":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:12","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"逆に男女要素見出せる部分がないんよこのアニメ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587292271","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":135,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179464":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:27","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"本当にアニメ見たの？","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587307194","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":136,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179476":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:28","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">ここのスレで見聞きしたことを自分の都合の良いように解釈して尾鰭付けて垂れ流すからな<\/font>
まさにこれな
知った風に適当なことしか言わん
>でも監督は恋愛は出したくないみたいですよ<\/font>","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587308698","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":137,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179532":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:38","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">一言でこれだ！って関係ではない気がするしそこが味わい深い<\/font>
だからこそ恋愛描写をあえて控えたってのが活きてるんだろうしね
わかりやすい明確な答えはないけども解釈の幅は広いしそれが面白いわけで","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587318973","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":138,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179562":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:43","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"仮に男女だったら直球で恋愛描写入れてただろうな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587323835","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":139,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179631":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:08:54","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">逆に男女要素見出せる部分がないんよこのアニメ<\/font>
真美とか...","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587334841","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":140,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179711":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:09:11","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">でも監督は恋愛は出したくないみたいですよ<\/font>
女同士の友情メインって明言してるし恋愛扱いされたくないんだろうなあ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587351265","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":141,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179773":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:09:20","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>>>芦花の特別な感情の事を恋愛の事じゃない！って頑張って否定してた奴いたなあ…<\/font>
>>>否定するわけじゃないけど<\/font>
>>>特別な感情=恋愛感情だと殆どの人が思ってるのどういうことだよって思うことはある<\/font>
>>じゃあどんな感情の事なのか教えてくれ<\/font>
>い…妹みたいに思ってるとか…<\/font>
その設定でキャラデザまで変えさせるの意味分からん過ぎるだろ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587360713","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":142,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179800":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:09:26","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"まあ正直男女でやるならこの距離感だと肉親でもないなら恋愛感情絡んでこないほうが不自然だもの","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587366223","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":143,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411179823":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:09:29","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"本編では恋愛のエッセンス出さなかったこととガイドブックで初めてその設定が公開されたことはなんの矛盾もないだろうに
本編も見てなければガイドブックも読んでなさそうだな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587369643","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":144,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180058":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:10:16","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">仮に男女だったら直球で恋愛描写入れてただろうな<\/font>
それは本家かぐや姫の帝との関係性で十分ではある","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587416522","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":145,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180223":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:10:44","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">>ここのスレで見聞きしたことを自分の都合の良いように解釈して尾鰭付けて垂れ流すからな<\/font>
>まさにこれな<\/font>
>知った風に適当なことしか言わん<\/font>
>>でも監督は恋愛は出したくないみたいですよ<\/font>
それはインタビューで明言してたことだろ…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587444053","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":146,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180349":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:11:07","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">ID:kgfWdV5k<\/font>
エスパー検定する必要もなかった","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587467239","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":147,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180353":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:11:08","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"はいIDでた
どこで悪さしてきたのかな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587468021","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":148,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180363":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:11:09","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"ﾃﾞﾀｰ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587469337","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":149,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180400":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:11:15","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">ID:kgfWdV5k<\/font>
うんこついてますよ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587475320","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":150,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180434":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:11:22","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":">はいIDでた<\/font>
>どこで悪さしてきたのかな<\/font>
どう見てもここ","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587482865","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":151,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180752":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:12:19","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"知ってた速報すぎる","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587539033","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":152,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180770":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:12:22","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"こんな300ちょっとの不定期スレでdelくらった程度でID出るとも思えんし他でもいろいろやってそうだな","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587542018","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"","rsc":153,"src":"","thumb":""},"1411180802":{"now":"26\/03\/16(月)00:12:28","name":"としあき","email":"","sub":"無念","com":"まあいくら言っても監督が恋愛要素ないって言ってるわけで…","ext":"","w":0,"h":0,"tim":"1773587548196","fsize":0,"del":"","host":"","id":"ID:kgfWdV5k","rsc":154,"src":"","thumb":""}},"sd":{"1411172675":"3","1411172937":"2","1411173244":"3","1411173094":"5","1411173287":"8","1411173569":"2","1411173840":"3","1411174316":"2","1411173951":"2","1411174604":"3","1411174615":"1","1411174360":"2","1411174335":"1","1411174245":"1","1411175162":"5","1411175074":"1","1411174639":"2","1411172926":"1","1411175493":"7","1411175535":"9","1411175530":"2","1411175597":"2","1411175974":"2","1411175590":"3","1411175345":"1","1411176062":"2","1411176515":"1","1411176987":"1","1411177154":"7","1411177030":"2","1411177334":"5","1411177363":"1","1411177408":"4","1411177422":"4","1411177627":"3","1411177691":"6","1411177813":"2","1411177949":"1","1411176859":"1","1411178263":"1","1411178985":"2","1411178977":"1","1411177823":"1","1411179198":"1","1411179253":"3","1411179250":"1","1411180434":"1","1411178860":"1","1411172977":"1","1411176817":"1"}}