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Dumb Pollock's avatar

“ If returning to the traditional values of generations prior is the permanent solution, why then did those generations give us these problems in the first place?”

That. Is the key problem. This is why I don’t wanted to live in the past. There are many good and beautiful things to appreciate and to restore, but there were also many weaknesses and confounding stupidity that shouldn’t be repeated.

I like to joke “Constitution so perfect it’s a mystery why there is corruption and decline.” Repeat with Christianity and other stuff. I wanted to get people to at least try to understand how and why things unfold as they did. But they’re strictly in for the talisman value.

So, let us build something better and a bit more wisdom.

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If a real state ever came about in the 21st century or the future, it must be led by a man like Napoleon or Alexander, men who create a new way of life in themselves, whose personage becomes the source of a morality. A real leader to tell people what is right and what is wrong. A real state would be a state which posits some knowledge or ownership of the divine and eternal, and who express a will to something historical, to which the people will be subject to. Because we don’t have any true values, nothing we hold higher than life at this point, this is the only way it can come back. This is the insight of the Nietzsche, this is the transvaluation of values, on the level of a state or civilization.

In some sense Trump has approached this, many of his most cattle like followers seem to think everything he does is divine revelation, perfect and without flaw. Very interesting.

I believe Christ is God, but I cannot participate in the Christian life which my ancestors did, because it does not exist anymore. My faith doesn’t extend beyond me and my actions, I’m an island in this sense. I believe Christ because I think he is literally God and the truth. I can’t rely on an organization to deal this to me, they are all essentially dead and corrupted, like you say. The individual must lift himself to the truth and figure it out himself, this is the only way out of nihilism, besides the Caesar I described earlier of course.

So to trust or politics to these corpses of organized religion is not viable. The individual man can decide for himself, but as a matter in society, they are too weak and splintered. Thanks for this article, I enjoyed it. This was my rant…

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