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opjrgdwer90's avatar

Can we get a physiognomy check though?

Layne A. Jackson's avatar

Have you listened to the recent Tucker Carlson episode about this? I am inclined to believe, as neutrally as I can, that it probably does depict a 1st century Judean crucifixion victim.

The guest on the show is pretty unlikeable for me, he drips with Prot rhetoric (they love quantified factoids that are designed to land with shock value against uninformed audiences) and gets a couple details wrong, but his defense of the SOT was still really good. I am most convinced by the “blinding light” argument because I doubt either ancients or medievals had the ability to produce it. There are also, as you wrote, marks all over the Shroud that clearly indicate the unique life and death of Jesus. As in, I don’t think this is a random Galilean man. It’s either what Christians claim it is, or an attempt at copying what the shroud would’ve looked like.

Also, there are many living relics today that are not forgeries. Tucker’s guest said the same thing, that there are “only 2 miraculous relics”, when there are actually hundreds. These shouldn’t be discounted as actual evidence.

Your summary of the eastern (Orthodox) perspective appears to be spot on. We have miraculous relics, but we aren’t super interested in squeezing the Soyence out of them. For example, my bishop had aggressive cancer that defied modern medicine. The miraculous relics of a saint (unnamed for privacy) at first eased his symptoms when present and later contributed to remission of his cancer. At no point was anyone involved interested in sending them to a university for testing. Ditto for the myriad weeping icons that are almost common across the world

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