Some of that reasoning is sooo odd.

If Duchess sounds so Dutch, then doesn't Zhenghua sound too Chinese?

How do you pronounce Watten? Walton?, Wah-ten....???

 

Opps. I guessed I've forgotten to think deeper. But it's too late for that. Sorry for this.

But Holland Village may have been named due to its historical Dutch presence around that area? If so, then it could have been named for historical reasons.

I had chosen Zhenghua due to its former name for Bukit Panjang, so it's for historical reason.

For the pronouncation of Watten, I don't know...

 

Holland Village was named after Holland Road which was named after Mr. Hugh Holland, an architech. (From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_Village,_Singapore )

Duchess isn't "Dutch". It, along with the group of roads in the area (Duchess, Duke, Prince, Princess of Wales, Coronation, King, Queen) all have connection to royalty. A Duchess is the wife of a Duke (a female duke is also called Duke).

I'm also wondering why you chose chestnut (a nut that doesn't even grow in Singapore) to cashew (a nut that DOES grow in Singapore). Note, the water chestnut does grow in Singapore, but that's a different nut altogether.

 

I'm not up for Zhenghua mainly because...

URA planning has seemingly made Zhenghua an actual "subset" of Bukit Panjang, aka the area around Zhenghua Park, Zhenghua CC, Zhenghua Primary School. Therefore Zhenghua in the modern day, can no longer denote the region of Bukit Panjang.

 

Rochor -> Tekka
Reflects the history of the area.

Stevens -> Wayang Satu
Stevens sounds very generic and is generally associated more with the area further south nearer to Orchard/Scotts Rds. On the other hand, Whitley (while sounding better) could also be associated with the area around CJC. Wayang Satu (named after a nearby hill - or what's left of it) is probably the best that would exude local flavour at the same time.

Duchess -> Watten
The estate on the opposite the side of the road, which show more prominence and history than the set of roads named after royal titles.

Sixth Avenus -> Eng Neo
Less generic than Sixth Ave. It would be nice if the station was named after whoever Eng Neo Ave was named after. Old Turf Club could also be a good possibility to reflect the former Turf Club nearby.

Blackmore -> Binjai
Named after what the area used to be called. Kampong Chantek could also be used, although the actual area might be too far away.

Beauty World -> Bukit Timah
Named after Singapore's famous hill. But Beauty World station would be good as well since the area has been known by that for so long as well.

Hillview -> Dairy Farm
Named after the road, which was named after the prominent industry that was there in the area. Hillview does sound a little generic.

Cashew -> Hazel Park
I wouldn't like to use Cashew, as it doesn't sound "proper" as a station name. The nearby "Hazel Park" area does sound nicer as a station name.

Petir -> Bukit Panjang
It's the closest station to Bukit Panjang LRT station and it is right next to Bukit Panjang Bus Interchange.


Tried to infuse as much history as I could when considering naming the stations. Quite unfortunate that since the line is is generally littered with landed properties so there is little attachment to most of the names around the area. Some of the quick research I did was pretty interesting, I didn't know that Wayang Satu was named after a hill (Balmoral Park area), and that where Murnane Reservior is used to be a village called Kampong Chantek, which is a really pretty name (pun intended) for a station, pity it's too far away though. Meanwhile, the name "Watten Estate" has actually existed for a long time (at least 50 years). And there was actually a Dairy Farm where Dairy Farm road is.

Meanwhile it's so annoying that the form doesn't allow for the '+' required for country codes, since I'm not living in Singapore anymore.

 

Found out that Watten is Dutch for cotton wool, and pronounced Vaht-ten.
Watten Estate was already named in the late 1950s.

Don't suppose there was an actual cotton plantation there? Or maybe a cotton wool factory? I don't doubt this area having a large Dutch population before.

 

Of the station names I personally feel Sixth Avenue and Beauty World have the strongest identities. Rochor is also a good identity marker, or it could be called Short Street. Agree that Watten would be a stronger name than Duchess.

Cashew sounds quirky. The rest seem rather dull.

 

Duchess isn't "Dutch". It, along with the group of roads in the area (Duchess, Duke, Prince, Princess of Wales, Coronation, King, Queen) all have connection to royalty. A Duchess is the wife of a Duke (a female duke is also called Duke).

Yup. I notice many road names carry the names of British royalty, a legacy of the past. Margaret Drive (after Princess Margaret?), Prince Charles, Prince Edward, Prince Philp, Queenstown, Commonwealth are some I can think of. And of course Queen Elizabeth Walk at the Esplanade.

 

For Cashew, the area seems to have developed an identity there (as seen by road names and condominiums), so it is almost highly likely that it would be chosen, although I would really want to see Hazel Park be used. It just has a nice ring to it in my opinion.

I concur that Beauty World should be used, but in my list, I gave alternates instead just to mix things up.

I have to admit Sixth Avenue Station does have a nice ring to it.

 

Duchess is the female equivalent of Duke la....

 

Stevens -> Wayang Satu

I like that name better than Stevens and Whitley.

 

Passed by Middle Road yesterday so I went to take a look at where DT20 might be along Bencoolen Street but noticed that both sides of the road are heavily built up and the road isn't really wide, probably around 20m including the pedestrian walks. To build a station there, they may to seal up a stretch of the road. Pretty incovenient for users there and also a lot of rerouting have to be done. Through road from Jalan Besar to Bras Basah will be disrupted and all city bound traffic has to be diverted to Waterloo St, North Bridge Road etc.

Then I noticed a patch of greenery bounded by Prinsep Street, Selegie Road and Middle Road. It might be a more plausible location since Prinsep Street isn't a major road. Even if that stretch of road is closed, the only building affected will be Sunshine Plaza. Actually not really affected since that stretch of road only serves the drop off point. They could relocate it to the other 3 roads bounding it.

Now it make more sense to have Rocher station located further up in front of La Salle in stead of Sim Lim Square. DT21 could now be built along Prinsep Street instead of Bencoolen Street.

 

Its kind of funny that a train station on a line linking different townships across the island can't be named to reflect the housing estate it serves because that name is already taken by a feeder system that serves only two housing estates. :nuts: Someone mentioned using the chinese name of Bukit Panjang. I wouldn't know what Jelebu or Sri Murugan Hill are.

The station in Jurong West isn't known as Jurong West either.

anyway, here's what I suggested earlier in this thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=22797278#post22797278

Here's my list of names for DTL

DT1 Zheng Hua
If the reason for not naming it Bukit Panjang is to indicate that this station is not linked to the LRT station seamlessly. If not, Bukit Panjang is still the best choice.
Has chosen this name as it was supposed to be the name of the new town before they decided on Bukit Panjang instead.

DT2 Cashew
Would prefer Bukit Gombak but it's already taken

DT3 Hillview

DT4 Beauty World
This name has been associated with this area for decades.

DT5 Bukit Timah
It's located so near to Bukit Timah Railway station. It will remind us the existence of the station even when it's demolished in the not so near future.

DT6 Sixth Avenue
Was torn between Sixth Avenue and Eng Neo but I think the former is more well known.

DT7 Hwa Chong
The school has remained there for almost a century and definitely will still be there for a long time. Furthermore, there is a national monument which serves as a landmark as well.

DT9 Wayang Satu
After the flyover in the area. I think the flyover got this name because there used to be a kampong of the same name there. Whitley and Stevens are reserved for stations on TSL.

DT12 Rochor

 

yeah man.. for all we know, they can still link the BPLRT to the Petir Station via an underground link, only that it will be too troublesome and costs lots of money. Coz currently, the land there is just a heavy vehicles park.

Whats more, if people were to switch to BPLRT from Petir Station (and vice-versa), they will have to pay double. Not very wise donch u tink? :nuts:

If you based it on the current calculation method, there is already a need to pay extra for transfer between LRT and MRT.

If you based it on the new distance based method, there won't be a need to pay extra. In fact, if they were to make the connection seamless, then you will need to pay extra just to get out of the station, make a quick purchase and then transfer to the LRT home.

 

I have no doubt that with the building of Rochor station, there will be congestions and diversions of "Chinatown NEL station construction" proportions.

Besides building the DTL, I believe they will attempt to do some widening or road improvements to that stretch of roads. In addition, they will need to reconstruct the Bukit Timah canal to strengthen the soil there or whatever needs to be done to support an interchange station below that junction outside Sim Lim Square.

The DTL has no choice but to go under the road from Bugis through Little India. That green patch is simply not suitable for a station (perhaps an exit) but not more than that, the line simply can't bend just to be under that green patch. Besides, I'm sure URA has plans for that station.

 

I have no doubt that with the building of Rochor station, there will be congestions and diversions of "Chinatown NEL station construction" proportions.

Besides building the DTL, I believe they will attempt to do some widening or road improvements to that stretch of roads. In addition, they will need to reconstruct the Bukit Timah canal to strengthen the soil there or whatever needs to be done to support an interchange station below that junction outside Sim Lim Square.

The DTL has no choice but to go under the road from Bugis through Little India. That green patch is simply not suitable for a station (perhaps an exit) but not more than that, the line simply can't bend just to be under that green patch. Besides, I'm sure URA has plans for that station.

I was referring to DTL3.

 

Sorry.

Reroute lor. If a station's gotta be there, it's gotta be there.

As for construction, they could either reroute it OR employ a different concept to construct, similar to certain metro construction projects in Seville or Madrid where they start digging from where the exits are, then support that, from there dig out a underground "cave" for the station. But the only tradeoff is that the station will be very small.

From the surface, it'd just look like minor road works. Quite a neat way of construction.

 

^^ A purchase from where? There's no shops between the MRT and LRT station currently. And by the time you take to walk to BP Plaza will take at least 10 minutes there and back.

The station in Jurong West isn't called Jurong West cause there are better names to that area that are more location specific. Jurong West is a huge area and if that precinct of Jurong West has a better known name why not call the station the name of that precinct?

 

If you based it on the new distance based method, there won't be a need to pay extra.

What is the new distance based method?

 

^^ A purchase from where? There's no shops between the MRT and LRT station currently. And by the time you take to walk to BP Plaza will take at least 10 minutes there and back.

The station in Jurong West isn't called Jurong West cause there are better names to that area that are more location specific. Jurong West is a huge area and if that precinct of Jurong West has a better known name why not call the station the name of that precinct?

Not having anything now doesn't mean there won't be any developement in the future. There are still 7 years before the station is operational.

Anyway, it was you who said "Its kind of funny that a train station on a line linking different townships across the island can't be named to reflect the housing estate "