I wanna say every 4th or 5th round is a tracer, but I could be wrong.
Edit: it would seem the C-RAM (weapon system in the video) uses a tracer every round. When the tracer burns out, it triggers a self-destruct so as to limit the amount of bad shit falling from the sky.
For C-RAM vs CIWS purposes, every round is a tracer that self destructs. Can't have a barrage of 20mm rounds dropping into some random, possibly populated, area.
It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds.
Edit: For those who don't get it, it's a reference to a trailer of a game called Team Fortress 2. It does not, in fact, cost five years' average salary to shoot the well-endowed R2-D2 for a fifth of a minute.
It's destroying artillery or mortar shells, which is even better.
The radar can actually track the path of the shells and extrapolate it to find out where they were fired from. You can also find out where they were fired from using seismic sensors in the ground. They claim that they can fire back at the point where the shells were fired from before the incoming ones are even supposed to impact.
And ignore the guy below. (Edit - Now above)
Ideally there will be no big explosion when the incoming shell is destroyed. The small flashes you see are the rounds being fired by the LPWS, destroying themselves. This is so they potentially don't land in populated areas.
And OP just calls this a C-RAM. Technically C-RAM is the type of system and there are several different countries making these. The most well known one is Israels iron dome which uses missiles rather than cannons like the one shown. This specific one is a land based system of the Phalanx CIWS, usually found on ships. It's called, unsurprisingly, the LPWS or Land Phalanx Weapons System.
And the other guy talking about how you are only seeing a fraction of the rounds being fired. He's wrong too, every round is a tracer, because the tracer is required for the self-destroying capability of the projectiles, so you're seeing them all.
In Balad Iraq, Jaish Al Mahdi would freeze mortars in tubes and then lay them out on a roof top to launch when the frost melted. You usually launch counter artillery or counter battery at positions picked up on ground sensors but when you get hit 40 times a day in Mortarittaville it makes it difficult and damn near impossible to not hit civilians.
For awhile we just cut city power at night after curfew and followed groups of military aged makes into houses coming out with CAREFULLY balanced bundles of tubes that sometimes didn't balance so good.
Bringing in the C-RAM brought mass casualties down to zero and reduced civilian casualties from counter batteries and mortar storage gone wrong. The Navy maintenance cats showed us how the linked rounds disintegrate in flight to spread more shrapnel into the air depending on the size of the target and to reduce a full on projectile falling from the sky like when Iraq won some international soccer match and 36 people died in Baghdad alone from falling 7.62 celebratory fire.
This is one of the scariest videos I've ever seen. The thought of having only a stream of rounds (however accurate and deadly) to protect you from missiles is terrifying.
Dude. Nothing is scarier then seeing this shit up close like the person recording. We did a field op once and I got to see a night fire exercise and it’s crazy once you experience the difference between speed of sound VS light. Saw an Apache fire a rocket at a target and it was maybe a few miles out in the hills and it’s wild. You see the explosion of impact and wait to hear it knowing anything near there just vaporized. Wild.
Hard to tell. CRAMS are used more often than you’d think
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Don't know about Iraq, but this was a daily occurrence in Bagram, Afghanistan when I was there. Three to four times a week at the shit hole FOB they moved me to later in the year. You got used to it.
God, imagine being shot down by a barrage of bullets so fast and so many they look like a laser.
Whats really crazy is you only see the “laser” because of the tracer rounds. Theres more rounds being fired between each tracer too!
*Folks have pointed out that this defense system is actually all tracers! Still a lot of munitions!
I wanna say every 4th or 5th round is a tracer, but I could be wrong.
Edit: it would seem the C-RAM (weapon system in the video) uses a tracer every round. When the tracer burns out, it triggers a self-destruct so as to limit the amount of bad shit falling from the sky.
For C-RAM vs CIWS purposes, every round is a tracer that self destructs. Can't have a barrage of 20mm rounds dropping into some random, possibly populated, area.
"That's not full auto?"
"No, this is."
It shoots 4500 rounds per minute, that’s 75 each second.
<insert TF2 heavy quote here>
It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds.
Edit: For those who don't get it, it's a reference to a trailer of a game called Team Fortress 2. It does not, in fact, cost five years' average salary to shoot the well-endowed R2-D2 for a fifth of a minute.
Each round cost about $27. That's $2,025 a second.
We had these my second deployment to Iraq on Basrah airbase. Sounds like God is tearing the fabric of reality when it fires off.
what were you doing in iraq?
Vacay
Did I miss it, how do you know that the missiles were destroyed
Little flashes
The little flashes are actually the rounds self destructing
It's not shooting down missiles.
It's destroying artillery or mortar shells, which is even better.
The radar can actually track the path of the shells and extrapolate it to find out where they were fired from. You can also find out where they were fired from using seismic sensors in the ground. They claim that they can fire back at the point where the shells were fired from before the incoming ones are even supposed to impact.
And ignore the guy below.
(Edit - Now above)
Ideally there will be no big explosion when the incoming shell is destroyed. The small flashes you see are the rounds being fired by the LPWS, destroying themselves. This is so they potentially don't land in populated areas.
And OP just calls this a C-RAM. Technically C-RAM is the type of system and there are several different countries making these. The most well known one is Israels iron dome which uses missiles rather than cannons like the one shown. This specific one is a land based system of the Phalanx CIWS, usually found on ships. It's called, unsurprisingly, the LPWS or Land Phalanx Weapons System.
And the other guy talking about how you are only seeing a fraction of the rounds being fired. He's wrong too, every round is a tracer, because the tracer is required for the self-destroying capability of the projectiles, so you're seeing them all.
Those things are so badass
In Balad Iraq, Jaish Al Mahdi would freeze mortars in tubes and then lay them out on a roof top to launch when the frost melted. You usually launch counter artillery or counter battery at positions picked up on ground sensors but when you get hit 40 times a day in Mortarittaville it makes it difficult and damn near impossible to not hit civilians.
For awhile we just cut city power at night after curfew and followed groups of military aged makes into houses coming out with CAREFULLY balanced bundles of tubes that sometimes didn't balance so good.
Bringing in the C-RAM brought mass casualties down to zero and reduced civilian casualties from counter batteries and mortar storage gone wrong. The Navy maintenance cats showed us how the linked rounds disintegrate in flight to spread more shrapnel into the air depending on the size of the target and to reduce a full on projectile falling from the sky like when Iraq won some international soccer match and 36 people died in Baghdad alone from falling 7.62 celebratory fire.
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That’s hot
Yeah gives me a respection. An erection out of respect, and a little fear.
This is one of the scariest videos I've ever seen. The thought of having only a stream of rounds (however accurate and deadly) to protect you from missiles is terrifying.
I think I need to install that system on my mech. One support hard point and a ton of ammo?
You know your gun shoots fast when it sounds like a gokart.
Thanks, I needed a PTSD trigger today.
I about shit my pants first time I heard one go off. Thought we were all dead men.
That sound is unreal.
Those whistle tips to WHOOOOT WHOOT
Dude. Nothing is scarier then seeing this shit up close like the person recording. We did a field op once and I got to see a night fire exercise and it’s crazy once you experience the difference between speed of sound VS light. Saw an Apache fire a rocket at a target and it was maybe a few miles out in the hills and it’s wild. You see the explosion of impact and wait to hear it knowing anything near there just vaporized. Wild.
Unbelievable. When was this?
Hard to tell. CRAMS are used more often than you’d think
Don't know about Iraq, but this was a daily occurrence in Bagram, Afghanistan when I was there. Three to four times a week at the shit hole FOB they moved me to later in the year. You got used to it.
That sound is absolutely terrifying.
I love that sound
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C-ram go bbbbrrrrrr