what the epstein dump is and is not
juggling intellectual polonium
i’m going to be honest, i have misgivings about writing this and many may not want to read it just because of how lurid some of the discussion is. note i say “discussion” and not “facts.” there are doubtless some facts in here. there’s also a whole bunch of febrile fantasy and determination to read certain facts between certain lines.
telling which is which is no mean feat, especially in a mess like this, but sometimes “in rerum confusione, veritas” and so, we solider on.
i’m going to try very hard to be even-handed and avoid extrapolation from conjecture.
forgive me if i miscarry. this topic is basically the venn intersect of a rorschach test and intellectual polonium with a side order of “hard R” true crime stories.
let’s start here:
what the epstein dump is not: the smoking gun.
no one says “i done it! come arrest me!”
this is not why it was feared.
neither is “it makes lots of important people look bad.”
sure, sucks to be them, but eggs, omelets, etc.
and there is a lot of what looks like it could be sanitization, censorship, and missing bits, but this is conjecture on my part, a sort of negative space analysis that “this does not read like the good stuff.”
but then, perhaps it wouldn’t, would it? if this really were dark and nefarious and IC adjacent, the idea that the real goodies would be on open email accounts that everyone had and knew about seems vanishingly small.
so, i suspect this “e-mail dump” is basically destined to leave everyone unsatisfied. those determined to find a satanic elite drunk on power and adrenochrome will find plenty to say “see, told you!” and those determined to call it a nothingburger will see little hard evidence to sway them and ask “so, who can you convict from this?” and the rest of us are just going to get a bit queasy at the implications contained and the spaces they might imply and just what those spaces might be full of.
but i think there may, indeed be some cause for some groups involved and adjacent to this to be worried.
here’s my pet theory:
the reason this dump was (rightly) so feared is that, even if adulterated, it’s enough volume to do real pattern analysis, a mosaic of 3 million things most of which could be dismissed on their own that, as a collective, form a picture that increasingly comes into focus.
i wonder if in here somewhere is a sort of evidentiary simpson’s paradox whereby no single thing can be proven, but that as a whole passes some balance point and starts to look dispositive, a sort of trusted network emerging from untrusted nodes in something akin to statistically powering a study.
consider:
1 email about pizza proves nothing.
900 emails where a large group of powerful people seem oddly obsessed with it? now you’re raising questions.
layer on top of that a widespread and bizzare focus on “dentistry” which seems to make no contextual sense save as another code word and then drop the truly disturbing possible connotations of widespread networks all asking about “jerky” and “beef jerky” (that inexplicably, seems to need to be refrigerated) and the idea that you have a large network here speaking in codes about some set of practices that they all certainly seem to know better than to actually name starts to look high probablity, epscially as these intensese focuses seem to cluster on just a few keywords rather than being more generalized. (no one speaks of “pork chops” or “the dermatologist.’)
it’s a fascinating puzzle.
i’ve been really hesitant to weigh in on this. frankly, i still am both for fear of being wrong and perhaps more terrifying of what might actually wind up proven, because somewhere between grindhouse horror and nothingburger lies a truth. if and whether and to what extent it can become knowable to us remains unclear, but one must, i suppose, try.
about most of this, i am not going to try to tell you what to wind up believing. this is for everyone to sort out on their own.
so don your bomb disposal gear and come along.
this is not a pleasant journey.
once more: we’re going to be dealing in supposition and balance of likelihood. “proof” in the absolute sense is elusive here, we’re dealing in the slipperier and more elusive precincts of probability.
and some of it is difficult to even ponder.
i had always suspected that there was likely something to the incredibly suspicious goings on around “pizzagate” but this was, to be honest, a sort of imaginable horror: powerful people running a sex ring for deviant desires would hardly be a new-new idea. it’s awful, but it’s a predictable kind of awful, an awful that falls within the precincts of imagination which normal (or even sane) people might envision. (though, that like the scandals in the UK, that people seem highly desirous to look away from and sweep beneath carpets.)
but some of the rest of this starts to push into places from which imagination recoils, the kinds of ideas that even the most avid and committed of conspiracists fear to explore because the psychic damage of having to accept that you live in a world like that, that humans do things like this, that it could be so widespread and pervasive as to comprise an actual power base and a system for keeping severely cluster B “elites” in lockstep unity through the mutually assured destruction of “if anyone catches us doing this they will literally bring back the guillotine,” is simply more than a healthy mind can or wants to bear. it’s a horror too far, a thing too actively abhorrent and insane to look upon and not be changed.
and, of course, taken as game theory, this is just the sort of transgression that would be required to keep such a group in line. the penalty for defection/exposure has to be worse than anything else you could plausibly fear.
these emails and documents are, in many ways, a horrifying embarrassment for law enforcement because when you piece them together, you can, if you look from certain angles and under certain assumptions, see a group hiding in plain sight and surfing the edge of deniability with such contempt and disregard for the ideas of consequences it knows full well will not accrue as to move past insult and into pure dismissal.
and if that is so, we have a monster infestation of astonishing proportions.
but these emails do not have the smoking guns.
the purported “kompromat” is not here.
all that talk about “we cannot convict based on this” seems true.
and they are so late in coming out and so many years have passed that what evidence actually remains has been left alone with professional scrubbers and cleaners who may well (again assumking the conspiracy theorization is correct) have nation-state scale resources. finding “the trove of proof” is likely to remain elusive and the snipe hunts have been led in many of the wrong directions (and away from places like zorro ranch)
the classic playbook has been and will be deployed and all the big guns are out:
deny, deny, deny, it’s old news.
this too seems like information.
they want it to go away as “perhaps once a thing, but long gone.” close your eyes again, go back to pretending you did not see this. if ever it was scary, the fear is over and you’re going to be fine. any conspiracies that may or may not have existed are over.
and they have a real shot at running this playbook because humans mostly want the world they wake up in today to be a lot like the world from yesterday and the implications of accepting facts too far outside of any practical or ethical norm are enormous and irrevocable.
faced with sufficient atrocity, no moral person may sit inactive and the actions required may be things that end your life as you know it and pull you into a world you simply cannot or do not wish to absorb, a rubicon you do shy away from crossing because “there is no back.”
what if monsters are real?
as a purely hypothetical basis consider the plot of 80’s cult classic “they live” where the protagonist gains glasses allowing him to see that all our elites are actually space aliens dominating the world.
you all lived through the times covidian and have seen “the after.” ask yourself: based on that, what percentage of humanity, upon seeing the aliens, would admit to having seen them and then actually go on to attempt to do anything about it? what percentage would stomp on the glasses that brought this insight and try to go back to living as before?
would you really want to see a thing like that if it meant the end of everything you knew? this is not a trivial question. not in any way.
and interestingly, half the answer resides in the question of “what could i actually do even if i tried?”
that is the scope of the issue. “not wanting to see” will be the far more potent driver than “unable to see” and the level of prebunking and ideological and frame capture is high.
on to epstein:
there is a great deal here which we do not yet know, perhaps a great deal we will never know, but i will tell you one thing of which i am certain:
there is nothing “bygone” about this “elite.”
it’s not over. it’s not gone. it’s in power and has no plans to give it up. this NYT gaslight from november is classic preemptive crisis handling.
the goal is to make it easy for you to decide not to pay attention.
“bygone elites” do not do this. active ones do.
they’re trying to pull a keyser soze.
and they have a great many aligned allies.
i suspect this is some of the dirtiest water ever carried by the NYT, and that is really saying something.
the truly difficult part here is that you can ignore any one part of this if you want to: find a reason to not see it, call it a coincidence, decide that sometimes “pizza is just pizza.”
i’m not here to tell you where that line is. we’re all going to need to sort that out for ourselves and make an assessment of what we think is going on, whether this was just a bunch of bored rich people with popularity obsessions and penchants for dark humor or an actual bona fide atrocity mill, what is happenstance and what is “enemy action.”
but there certainly is no shortage of outcomes sufficiently suspicious to give one pause and past a point, the profound incuriosity of media and justice organs alike about such things becomes thunderous in its silence.
before we get any deeper into this, let’s agree to be very careful about our biases.
i claim no special knowledge here, i’m working off the same stuff as everyone else and i want to make one thing extremely clear:
trusting text just because it’s in these files is very dangerous.
it’s one of the reasons i’ve been slow to speak here.
“whistleblowers” are notoriously unstable and untruthful. many are just plain bonkers. others are bang-on honest and just telling tales too wild to believe. determining which are which is incredibly difficult and once stories and urban myths proliferate, the fact that 3 unrelated accounts agree stops actually being confirmation and may just be multiple people fixating on the same salacious story.
or, it might be true.
or, most difficult of all, it might be true but some of those talking about it might be lying because they heard about it and tried to inject themselves into the story. such people are the best friends of the conspiracist because they tell a true tale, but discredit it because their own relationship to it is provably false.
stop and think about that one. if you had a nefarious cult engaging in awful activities, wouldn’t you fill the heads of crazy people with mostly true facts so they would shout them from rooftops and then be discovered never to have been to the places or seen the things? it’s very effective infowar.
this is the meat and potatoes of intelligence agencies and narrative shaping.
and it makes it impossible to tell, at face value, what is what.
add to this how easy it is to misinterpret textual communications, especially those using sarcasm, inside jokes, or dark humor, and, again, we need use extreme caution jumping to conclusions.
let he who is in a group chat where they never used dark, shocking, edge lord humor that could make you look really bad if read uncharitably and out of context cast the first stone…
take an example from “a purported victim” who claims to have been a victim of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a scimitar that (oddly) left no scars.
12 different parts of this story seem impossible/implausible, but i have seen people say “but look, the cops seem to take it seriously!”
but try reading it as sarcastic. “oh, i didn’t realize that elvis was there as well!” “yup, he’s got more to tell us!”
we cannot be dispositive, but on balance, that seems like a far more likely outcome than sincerity.
i suspect those claims to be wholesale bunkum.
this is a time to be careful, but assiduous.
it’s a time to make sure we have loads and loads of context and triple check our facts.
by contrast, as far as i can tell, everything in this tweet is correct.
so, context one: there are monsters in the world.
of this, there can be little doubt. and they seem to have some worrying interactions with the rich, powerful, and famous. how bad this is, how widespread, how debased? that is an open question, but the question is and remains “who and how many and how badly?” not “if.”
and that’s important.
if this sits uneasily upon your mind, good. congratulations. you’re likely an actual human. this should sit uneasily, it should be nearly impossible to look at directly, an abyss which when stared into theatens one’s sense of reality and evokes the visceral desire to sharpen stakes and hunt the vampire.
no decent person wants to see this.
and i fear it’s why we must.
and oddly, for all the lurid carcrash horror of much of this, the real information may be probabilistic.
the power of these releases is not in the smoke of their firearms but statistical inference from a preponderance of facts.
consider this:
of its own accord, this email looks like nothing, the banal business of daily life.
but contextalized among 3 million it starts to take on a potentially different character. surf that link yourself. see how many there are and how odd many sound. see what your pattern recognition tells you. (excerpted below)
some of these make no real sense as simple oral hygiene descriptors.
possibly this group is just super obsessed with their choppers, but in all seriousness, who talks about the dentist like this? (and who has a dentist chair in his vacation home?)
i profess no high or even middling confidence view on what “dentist” means here and have heard all manner of theories proposed ranging from the relatively prosaic to the utterly wild and i lack any real ability to sort them out, but something here smells fisher than month old mackerel, not least the odd lack of investigation. this seems like an issue someone with justice department level reach could sort out and if it’s all just tooth bleaching, then let us know. it’s incredibly difficult to sustain confidence in a process that’s leaving stuff like this on the table.
lots of bad online actors use euphemisms for things they do not want to name. it seems common among pedophiles who seem to use “pizza, pasta, ice cream, steaks” and a variety of other food names.
and there was some awfully odd outcome clustering on both sides of the pizza.
again, we’re connecting dots, not providing proof and that’s important to keep in mind, but so is the seeming lack of curiosity around these topics.
and some of the coincidences that keep cropping up seem surreal.
apart from the geography, i cannot corroborate the rest of those claims apart from one:
his trust really did win the powerball on the day after he began his florida prison sentence in 2008.
as with everything here, there is no “proof” this was some sort of payoff.
there will never be a reckoning or anyone held to account. this is long since over and people who can rig stuff like this can cover tracks so if it is what it looks like, it’s almost certainly fruitless to try to prove it. no court of law will ever look into the plausibility of this coincidence. but i’m honestly curious: does anyone have a more plausible or parsimonious explanation than “this was a payoff to do the time and shut up?” or some means to fund a cleanup up down zorro way?”
speaking of zorro, that place raises questions. if little saint james was the high profile “notice me” magician’s flourish, zorro may be the trick itself, one that has not, to my knowledge, been much revealed. rumors of tunnels, incinerators, dead girls, and buildings with multiple layer entrance gates (sally ports like those used in prisons) abound and with border proximity and a private airstrip, the location is auspicious for activities suspicious, but no one ever went to really see.
this is a remarkable outcome, even an astonishing one. what does it take to draw curtains this tightly? how deep must a rabbithole be and how powerful its denizens?
or perhaps it’s just blameless, a ranch among many and like 1000 others. but i really must at this point ask: if that were so and in light of everything else, how did this wind up being the one place that no one searched?
is the fix really in that hard?
one might be inclined to call such conspiracy impossible but then, what are the chances that this same ranch’s trust won oklahoma powerball?
i mean, look, it’s bonkers to the point of phantasmagoria, but so too is the “all these people keep being pedos” outcome of clintonian pizza parties and the possible health risks that seem to accrue from noticing.
any one part of this ecosystem looks like it can be explained, but the sums of outcomes and obsessions do get weird.
the “beef jerky” issue seems especially odd and lurid.
it seems a weirdly lowbrow foodstuff for this crowd and a strange thing to obsess over.
can we support the conclusions below with any certainty?
i don’t think so.
the takeaway that “beef jerky” and probably “steaks” and are code looks like an odds on bet, but what exactly it is code for remains conjecture. no one ever flat out tells you and so, a certain amount of this revolves around assumption and (often) preconception.
but it’s sure odd and something about it feels deeply, deeply off.
some claim that it’s just jerky. they point to a recipe.
and maybe it’s as simple as that. but this leads to weird questions about “so why are you refrigerating it?” and “why is everyone so obsessed?”
this is certainly a group who seems to have some weird relationships with “food.”
karyna was epstein’s girlfriend, (also, oddly, just for maximum absurdity, a dentist.)
susan was accused of grooming girls for jeffrey.
his circle also has interesting taste in “art.”
and even perhaps “cinema” (though we have no idea who sent this or if it is credible or somehting else.
it’s all maddeningly unspecific and untraceable, a weird inferential game that seems to have no bottom. so many of these things can be read in multiple ways.
the sinister view of this is obvious. the non-sinister view is that sulfuric acid is used in reverse osmosis (RO) water purification systems. the tricky bit is that this is a quantity likely suitable (if GPT is to be believed) for something like 8-10 million gallons of water. that’s industrial scale, not vacation ranch or little st james. but then, we do not actually know where this was going. maybe it was a water project.
it’s easy to jump to whatever conclusion one pre-loads and for all that we accumulated gobs of possible context here, we also need to be cautious that we’re not the sort of paleontologist who is attaching the tailbone of a brontosaur to the head of an equid and claiming he found a unicorn.
on the other hand, this order was the exact same day the FBI initiated its sex-trafficking investigation into jeffrey and the goings on on LSJ.
so make of it what you will.
this whole matter is, frankly, something of a mess being used by a great many people as a sort of rorschach test, but just because it’s a mess does not mean that there are no pictures in the ink. there are, we just need to see what they turn out to be.
we are living through some wild times in which basic ideas like “reality” get awfully difficult to pin down.
here’s another one. it’s a document directly from the DOJ site. what do you notice?
yeah, the date is friday, august 9th. epstein “died” on the 10th.
maybe it’s just a typo where they used a form document and forgot to update the date, but i have searched the net and cannot find any other USAO document that makes a similar mistake. (this does not mean they do not exist, perhaps they are just not readily identifiable.) but let’s not forget how weird everything around that “suicide” was from the timing to the camera and watcher failures to the autopsy and rapid cremation.
“epstein killed himself” never, to my mind, passed the smell test.
and now we have whole new conspiracies to assess:
fortnite denies this. others have poked holes in the denial.
at this point, it’s 3:2 the field and pick ‘em as far as i can tell. i have no idea and am past the point of surprise.
if epstein showed up next week playing third base for the mets i’m not sure it would even register anymore.
and honestly, this makes me fearful.
are we, as a country, as a world, even able to see this? are we ready? could we look at it if it were, under hot, undeniable lights, shown to us to be as bad as some fear?
the dump from the epstein files is deeply surreal and there is so much outlandish content and so many wild fakes all circulating right now that i urge caution.
take the time verify what is and is not a real or official document.
but do NOT stop digging.
pre AI and social media, i’m not even sure something like this could have been analyzed. but now it can. it’s time to build the map for real.
the task is awful and vexing, but the stakes are enormous.
if the “attachments” get found, that would add a whole new layer.
but i have no idea if the world is ready to see them.
Nothing will happen because of this (same as with the scamdemic):
"When all are guilty, no one is; confessions of collective guilt are the best possible safeguard against the discovery of culprits, and the very magnitude of the crime the best excuse for doing nothing."
-Hannah Arendt
That said, I guess the reason why people are fascinated with this scandal is that it undermines the legitimacy of so many powerful people in positions of “authority.” The very elites who have been exposed as monsters continue to decide elections, wars, economic policies, and the fate of entire societies.
This much is certainly true:
For at least the last 70 years trust in “authorities” has steadily declined. Over the last couple decades, those “authorities” have proven to be frauds, grifters, and liars. Now many of these same “authorities” have been exposed as sick and depraved perverts whose actions are vile and essentially evil.
I cannot understand why the focus has always been on Epstein's web of perversion. The vile salaciousness of it overshadows the vast machinery of his criminal financial enterprise.
The Feds finally nailed Al Capone on tax evasion. Why are the Clintons being grilled about Epstein Island, but always skate on investigations of their dodgy "charitable foundations "? Their financial crimes are likely to be well-documented by Epstein, who helped the Clintons set them up.
All of the world is whispering about Epstein's pervert pals. What would happen if his financial dealings were unwound and his partners in financial crime were indicted and convicted?
Then we would know who is really being protected from exposure in the highest echelons of society world-wide.