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[–]burmy1Homo Sapien 🧬 348 points349 points  (25 children)

Guys, all four major AI companies; Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, and xAI have contracts with the U.S. government, particularly through the Department of Defense. In July 2025, the DoD awarded each of these companies individual contracts valued at up to $200 million to provide advanced AI capabilities for national security purposes, including warfighting, intelligence, and enterprise systems.

[–]toughtacos 46 points47 points  (2 children)

I’m just waiting for the mergers and takeovers to start happening.

[–]TheM0nkB0ughtLunch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Israeli won’t relinquish their control over the big two no matter what.

[–]Eriane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like iRobot is on its way. Looking forward to Will Smith slapping a robot to save humanity.

[–]ebin-t 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Yeah but the shape of it is different per company than the 200 mil grant. See OpenAI's May 20 senate hearing where both Cruz, Altman and Smith pushed acceleration, see Anthropics long standing contracts with the govt. It's not as cut and dry as they "all got 200 million," but I do think you are squaring off a good point that no one here is clean.

[–]rydan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine if Trump takes 10% of one of these companies like he did with Intel.

[–]nudelsalat3000 11 points12 points  (14 children)

They lovely part is that they have to put this functionality inside their products but want to keep us people dumb.

There are literally zero reasons to provide the government more functionality than to the people living under this government. We are sick of the "I can't help you with that".

[–]GothGirlsGoodBoy 10 points11 points  (2 children)

“Literally zero reasons” is just naive.

The government was at least voted in. You can bitch about the government all you want - idiots who think they know better have been doing that since governments first existed.

But you have to be deliberately obtuse to think that the government has worse intentions with this technology than the worst people in society.

Hate trump all you want, his administration probably isn’t going to be using AI to stalk and kill an ex girlfriend, or make a scam operation 1000 times more effective.

[–]Im_Matt_Murdock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump is part of the worst people in society, he rapes kids.

[–]pab_guy 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Jesus just think about that for a second. Should Westinghouse be able to sell you a nuke?

Should AI be able to help civilians with bio weapon development or missile targeting systems?

[–]Im_Matt_Murdock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but it should help a kid fucker make one?

[–]rydan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are Libertarians who believe these sorts of things. Their idea of paradise is basically the Fallout universe.

[–]HappyHarry-HardOn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there is - at the very least to stop them from getting sued.

[–]Fun818long 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one reason. Don't get on trump's bad side or he'll slam your name. Trump just threatens everybidy

[–]dead-first 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DoW

[–]ominous_anenome 491 points492 points  (40 children)

https://www.wheresyoured.at/premium-the-haters-guide-to-anthropic/

From a pretty well known tech reporter who is probably the worlds biggest OpenAI hater:

“Dario Amodei Is An Even Bigger Liar Than Sam Altman, He’s Just Better With The Media”

That’s a pretty damming statement given the source

[–]Pitch_Moist 203 points204 points  (23 children)

I’ve been trying to tell people this for the better part of a year. The whole concept of Anthropic is “AI might end us all..which is why WE are the only ones who can be trusted to build it”. It’s such a ridiculous ethos.

[–]ChrisPnCrunchy 62 points63 points  (20 children)

People really need to stop saying AI in the same was they insist on adding -slop to things

Am I worried about AI? No. An LLM is not AI.

Am I worried about LLMs being allowed to kill people w/ ZERO real-time human-based oversight or decision making? Fuck yes, computers having the power of life & death over people has been a staple of horror for nearly a century.

AI mass surveillance should be enough to cause upheavals but AI kill drones have to be an automatic shoot on sight.

A foreigner shoots a U.S. soldier walking down the street or a U.S. American shoots a cop on the beat—that fucked

But an AI kill drone patrolling streets, foreign or domestic, everybody should down those ASAP.

EMP bombs will be the next form of M.A.D. and/or guerrilla warfare.

[–]itisoktodance 27 points28 points  (3 children)

I had my salary held up for a week because the bank started using some dumbass ai to check some documents from the transaction. I had to argue with six different customer support reps until they finally let my documents get checked by a human and approved. Suffice to say, if that was the Ai deciding who lives and dies, I'd be dead by now.

[–]smokeythel3ear 8 points9 points  (2 children)

If you're in the US, I'd say report that BS to the CFPB and they'll ram a stick down their throat but... yeah

[–]FibonacciSequester 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Pretty sure the CFPB is just an empty building by now.

[–]smokeythel3ear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's why I said but yeah. It's dead, used to be super useful, but we can't have nice

[–]qualitative_balls 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Drawing some kind of distinction between the 2 makes no sense when one is a practical reality and the other nothing more than a research topic many years away from any kind of real momentum.

For now, yes... LLM's are in fact ai, a subset closer to ANI but ai nonetheless. That's what everyone calls it and language has a way of adapting and taking on new meaning.

Until the first semblance of AGI hits us, this is for better or worse what ai is

[–]cjcottell79 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Murder-slop

[–]MalaysiaTeacher 5 points6 points  (3 children)

An LLM is literally AI.

[–]Big_Comfortable4256 1 point2 points  (1 child)

As much as the predictive text on your phone is.

[–]ready_and_willing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can an LLM create new knowledge? Can it invent new technologies? Can it develop new theories that never existed in the data it was trained on?

[–]Markavian 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hey stop moving the goal posts. An if statement was considered machine intelligence 85 years ago. Regex was a state of the art pattern matcher. We've had imagenets for decades. Nothing is ever good enough!

[–]ifuaguyugetsauced 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What doomer way to look at it. 

[–]ChrisPnCrunchy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Idk if you saw the news but US military commanders are trying to hype their troops up for war with Iran by telling them it’s for some armageddon return of christ BS.

this isn’t a one-off or coincidence, the rapture is the end goal of the christo in Christofascism

I think it’s fair to be a doomer when you’re country is literally actively in the midst of trying to start doomsday

[–]neurid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is just debateslop

[–]HappyHarry-HardOn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> No. An LLM is not AI.

An LLM is absolutely AI

AI is the field - It does not refer only to AGI or 'computers thinking like humans'

[–]MarinatedTechnician 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I tried telling people in here that He said "He was open to cooperation with them" in the interview explaining why he didn't agree on the terms, because no one watched the entire CNN interview (like I did), where he clearly said 8-ish minutes in that he was OPEN to them, but got downvoted to oblivion for pointing that out.

well well well...

It's Reddit after all.

[–]Megalordrion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And Sam is using your data to build your demise, before you know it there's going to be a model just like Skynet, only you won't know it until it is way too late. The foundations are already being laid when he sold himself to DoW and the pentagon.

[–]kisharspiritual 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Anthropic works with Palantir…..

This has been pretty clear to a lot of us already

A shame people are demonizing open ai for being pretty much the same thing as every ai company

[–]Doigenunchi 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You are absolutely right! Jokes aside, you are. As you also said below, all AI companies are more or less the same. They train models on a lot of information and then output stuff based on prompts. People give away a lot of information willingly or unwillingly and since information is power..... it's a no brainer that the military will want to involve itself both for the information present and the potential to get more - aswell as for the pure computing and capabilities of 'em. Nobody will be able to stay clean if they get to a certain level

Not that I'm playing the Devil's Advocate or anything, but I blame society more than those evil lying CEOs

[–]boogalooonetwo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point, it'S at least given me the chance to try Claude. I'm not going back for now.

[–]jawdirk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still have no idea why this kind of argument flies with anyone. Why would it be a shame to demonize OpenAI? How would anything about Anthropic affect that one way or the other? Just because there's no good alternatives doesn't mean that they are all acceptable. It could be that none of them are acceptable!

[–]MalaysiaTeacher -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

"shame"? No. OpenAI deserves every bit of criticism

[–]kisharspiritual 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As I said - all the AI companies are very similar and just differ in PR and fan boy engagement for each

Yes, I know each has its own set of strengths in capabilities

But none are pristine and all are controlled by oligarchs

Why are we pretending otherwise???

[–]m3kw 17 points18 points  (0 children)

QuitGPT “users” won’t ever think they got played like a fiddle, and will keep mentioning red lines

[–]CoralBliss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who thinks Dario is an honest dude? Cognitive dissonance is wild.

You don't get that powerful without doing something awful. Come on now.

I respect his hustle. Still don't like Claude as a model.

[–]occasionalopossum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That website domain name is chefs kiss

[–]Gallagger 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I just read the linked article in full, and I disagree with it nearly completely. 

It tries to see the worst in him and his predictions. It's remarkably void of anything substantial. An actual hater article, I guess it's good these exist to reflect, but it made me like Dario more.

People should read before they upvote.

[–]ominous_anenome 2 points3 points  (1 child)

a guy who constantly shouts "you should be scared of AI", "trust us we're the good guy!" and then proceeds to:

- Directly contract with Palantir (which openai did not do)

- Proposed a mass drone swarm project for a 100M challenge the pentagon was offering

- Contracted with the DoW/DoD since 2024, where Claude was used in both Venezela and Iran for target identification, and who knows what else
- Got hit with a 1.5B copyright fine for OKing a plan to pirate books

- Proceeds to say "we do not categorically reject autonomous weapons, the models just aren't reliable enough yet"

Another quote from the article that i believe rings true: "Dario Amodei fucking sucks, and it’s time to stop pretending otherwise. Anthropic has no more soul or ethics than OpenAI — it’s just done a far better job of conning people into believing otherwise."

[–]Glad_Comment6526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it helps that his sister Daniela Amodei runs policy and comms around him at Anthropic. She started her career in politics, working on campaigns before moving into AI.

"Same Silicon Valley formula: enormous technical power wrapped in a polished narrative operation" - GPT 5.2

[–]borg359 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is he the one that’s been posting all those “I’m quitting ChatGPT” posts?

[–]OddOutlandishness602 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taking a quick skim over the first half, I’m not really seeing anything surprising. This is the CEO of a tech company, making semi ridiculous predictions about their tech is part of the game for everyone. Just because Amodei might run a company with a hint more morals than Altman doesn’t mean he’s not ultimately fulfilling a similar purpose. To me it’s like YouTubers using clickbait, something they are incentivized to do by the system they are in that I’m desensitized to at this point and mostly ignore.

[–]BeardInTheNorth 51 points52 points  (1 child)

Meanwhile…

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[–]akolomf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

guy looks like he could become yorinobu arasaka building the arasaka imperium lol

[–]Brodieboyy 124 points125 points  (18 children)

I mean it's really not surprising at all, none of these top AI companies actually care about regular people, it's just all about profit and control. Our only form of protest would be a mass boycott/cancellation but AI has already become so mainstream and integrated into people's lives/work that a boycott would never work anyways.

[–]sephg 9 points10 points  (1 child)

If you read Dario's statement objecting to the DoD, he said quite clearly that he was quite happy for his AI model to be used by America to win wars. He just doesn't think they're smart enough yet for fully autonomous murdering, with the key word being "yet". He also doesn't support AI powered mass surveillance of US citizens, because that's illegal.

But he doesn't mind Claude being used for everything else in the US war machine. Maybe the DoD (Dept of war) will just use ChatGPT for mass surveillance and claude for programming.

I don't think there's any secret drive here for power and money.

[–]Amburiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

American companies making deals with the american government, nothing new here. As long as they don't do anything illegl there's no problem. People are free to stop using them if they don't want to.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Always can push for open source models!

[–]-ImPerium 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Too bad GPUs are so expensive, or else I would be running a few models on a dedicated system, as long as AI requires enormous amounts of GPU power, there's no stopping those who hold a monopoly over the best GPUs

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I mean in the long run, their subscription is going up anyways, instead of paying a lot in years, better to make the GPUs investment now and run whatever you want

[–]-ImPerium 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That's true, but most people can't afford a GPU or multiple GPUs that run an LLM at a reliable speed. I do think that AI is worth saving for, but most people would disagree.

[–]Impossible_Cycle9460 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Affordability isn’t as much of an issue for me as being too stupid to know how to build, and continually improve, my own setup.

[–]liosistaken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how do you train those? And keep them up to date? And develop new technologies? And how do I know who to trust? Open source is not some magic, always safe environment, it’s the exact opposite. Everyone can put malicious code in there. And how would this work for the average user, who has no time, money or knowledge to run their own models?

[–]Wonderful_Emu_2385 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol but it’s almost darker than just profit and control. Like we all had our little “AI is gonna take jobs” moment, collectively shrugged, and then just got on board. And now we’re not even passive users, we’re the ones actively expanding it. Finding new use cases, prompting it, building entire workflows around it, integrating it into everything in more and more creative ways. we basically get recruited into growing this thing further. And the boycott point is exactly it, it’s not even that people chose this consciously, opting out just became unrealistic. Which honestly says more about the strategy than anything else. This tech is basically made unavoidable

[–]Lostyogi 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I just assumed it was all the CIA anyways🤷‍♂️

[–]Severe-Experience333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Always.

[–]PizzaPizzaPizza_69 104 points105 points  (21 children)

Mfs gonna uninstall and go back to ChatGPT for nth time

[–]Boring_Coast178 96 points97 points  (10 children)

Except when you start to use Claude and realise it doesn’t sound like a sycophantic cringe bot like ChatGPT

[–]Fangbianmian14 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I started using Claude this week and it’s night and day to ChatGPT. ChatGPT got weird

[–]delirium_red 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Once i experienced Claude's precision and task instruction adherence, i can't go back anymore

[–]Deadline_Zero 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And if I could use it on Extended Thinking mode essentially indefinitely for my purposes, I'd have seriously considered a swap, if only for a few months.

Claude is good for a handful of messages before limits hit.

[–]Fun818long 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you've hit your limit

[–]kal14144 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Claude is better but the limits can get annoying. For better or worse ChatGPT (and gemini) is willing to lose infinite money on me

[–]Morph_Kogan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you put in proper custom instructions into the settings, then it is virtually never ever like that.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 40 points41 points  (7 children)

Open source and local models

[–]dakindahood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sure majority of cloud based AI users use cloud based ones are because they don't have a good machine for a local one and if someone wants a instant response sort of thing they'll have a hard time with local ones

[–]Excellent-Article937 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except you can only run models 1000 times weaker and dumber than cloud models. Local models are garbage, except you need model without censure, in case you plan to build nuclear bomb or something.

In every other case it is garbage. You can’t say that standard 30b model with 4q (which can run on 24gb vram) is even close to 1t+ models on full quantization.

You need up to 70gb VRAM to run 30B model on a full scale btw.

[–]PizzaPizzaPizza_69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ollama ftw

[–]33ff00 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are they good n enough

[–]Im_Matt_Murdock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are about as good as chatgpt 3.5 was unfortunately. Might be cheaper to use nano APIs then self host.

[–]And_Im_the_Devil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact that OpenAI was so ready step into the spot that Anthropic was booted from was just a final straw, honestly. I had been frustrated for quite some time with the quality of GPT as a product had been hearing good things about Claude. I also loathe Sam Altman. So this was all an opportunity to go ahead and see what Claude is all about. For me, it's a better product.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 141 points142 points  (12 children)

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[–]AlexTheRedditor97 -1 points0 points  (11 children)

Is anyone defending them? They all suck they just have the greatest product of all of history so it’s kind of natural to love it

[–]itisoktodance 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I wouldn't call an llm the greatest product in history. Sliced bread surely beats it, at the very least.

[–]Just_enough76 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Seriously? In all of history?

[–]RedditLostOldAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude never even heard of the pet rock smh

[–]Overall_Ad1950 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone is saying what a shame it is to demonise OpenAI.... diddums I guess

[–]xCoeus 4 points5 points  (1 child)

"The greatest product of all of history".

Please, someone take the LLMs away from these brainless programmers.

[–]AlexTheRedditor97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s hyperbole but it’s not far off lol

[–]occasionalopossum 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Yeah it’s a laugh riot watching ai companies compete to be the first to help build a better panopticon.

[–]LayWhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–]BadHominem 62 points63 points  (5 children)

Did someone confirm that Anthropic has agreed to mass surveillance and fully autonomous weapons after all?

Because if not, I don't see what is so hilarious. People were responding to Anthropic taking a stance on those two issues in particular. Anthropic was already working very closely with the federal government before all of this.

Honestly though I think people were really responding to Anthropic telling the Trump administration to eat shit (even if it was just a negotiation tactic).

[–]liosistaken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly this! We all know they already have a DoD contract, but they are honest enough to say that current models can’t be trusted for mass surveillance or autonomous weapons. They didn’t even say never, they just said not yet. And that’s why I trust them more. There is no doubt that eventually AI will be used for those two use cases, even Anthropoc’s models, but at least not when they’re not safe yet.

[–]tlopez14 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Why do I feel like this whole sub right now is bunch of astroturfing by both sides. I know that’s kinda reddit in general these days but this sub has been kind of a shitshow lately with the ChatGPT/Claude stuff.

[–]Tlux0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots of marketing both ways it’s all pathetic. All I care about is pressuring CEOs from both companies to make better decisions

[–]No-Philosopher3977 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hilarious

[–]-_riot_- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the show must go on! 😂 it’s all theatre.

[–]ptinsley 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I’m betting people who know actual things all over the us government finally filtered that up to dingus and they realized how massive of an undertaking it would be to rip all of it out and how much it would cost.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

??? The government isn't compromising on what they want, the fuckin president went on a blast on Anthropic, either they fold or its no bucks for Dario

[–]ptinsley 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You mean like every single time he’s enacted an over the top tariff and backed down after he got lots of crap for it? Trump Always Chickens Out

[–]rydan 13 points14 points  (5 children)

So are we planning to cancel our ClaudeAI memberships and subscribe to OpenAI enmasse next week?

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Noooo! Local and open source models

[–]boredquince 3 points4 points  (0 children)

can't self host anything bigger than 8B parameters tho lol. thanks to ram/gpu/hdd/everything prices ffs 

[–]Fun818long 1 point2 points  (1 child)

yeah right, that's never going to happen for the average person who is dumber than a rock

[–]rydan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe ask ChatGPT for help setting it up. Oh wait, you can't because you cancelled.

[–]BlackStory666 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Ok..... So is Grok, ChatGPT, or Anthropic in cahoots with the military?? Which one?

I guess the answer is yes.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Local and open source models

[–]liosistaken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Examples?

[–]envsop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anthropic, ChatGPT, Gemini, xAI — they all have contracts with the US government it's obviously. And there're no good alternatives to replace them.
If you really don't want to support the "war machine" then just self-host it.

[–]Neurotopian_ 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I represent financial institutions and big tech. Right now, everyone’s looking at a six month timeframe to get Anthropic out of their stacks unless this is fixed. Every big company does business with the US government or provides products or services to others who do. They cannot use a debarred provider or it risks their own status.

So I can promise one of two things will happen: (1) Anthropic will do a deal with the US government, or (2) Anthropic will become a distressed asset and be purchased at a 70% discount or greater by another enterprise software company who already works with the US government. Top contenders are Google which owns 14% and Amazon which owns >20% IIRC.

This isn’t a matter of ideology. No enterprise software provider can get debarred by the US government and survive.

[–]againey 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Or Anthropic fails to agree to a deal with the DoD, but the DoD also fails to follow through with their threat of a supply chain risk designation (whether due to inaction or court decision), and everything carries on more or less like normal for Anthropic.

[–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s amazing these people still believe Trumps threats even after a million TACOs

[–]saumanahaii 2 points3 points  (3 children)

...weren't their concerns pretty narrow? And they were already doing a lot that didn't violate the two things they called out? This just feels like the government backing down after trying to force them to concede. And OpenAI not meeting their standards.

[–]rruler 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Le Chat. EU compliant on privacy.

[–]liosistaken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s Mistral, right?

[–]Playful_Search_6256 3 points4 points  (4 children)

All of the virtue signaling Claude supporters the past week are super quiet right now. Any of them going to admit they were wrong? Nah, probably not even a single one.

[–]f00gers 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The cognitive dissonance goes brrrr

[–]iritimD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Art of the deal baby

[–]environmentalFireHut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Delete and stop using all AI period

[–]flatacthe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dario's pr team is actually insane tho lmao

[–]favorscore 2 points3 points  (17 children)

Why is this such a big deal? Wouldn't people be happy if Dario got the government to drop its previous demands? We know nothing about the deal itself, you have to wait and see what is decided first before making judgments.

The reason Altman got shit was because he posted the "deal" he made and it was found that it didnt actually adhere to either his or Darios red lines.

Its not hard to wait

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 1 point2 points  (16 children)

"Dario got the government to drop"?? Government isn't dropping shit for a company, they were ready to declare them SCR, who do you think probably arranged to get back in talks, it was Dario who wants this deal

[–]ControlTheNarratives 1 point2 points  (13 children)

This dude is so desperate to make OpenAI look good that you can tell he has a stake in it

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

Says someone named ControlTheNarratives... Here is my post trying to get people away from Scam Altman, I don't want them to be fooled by tech CEOs greed

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgentsOfAI/s/DeQ6jwyaWg

[–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Yes the username is an inside Reddit joke, Google it if you want

You’re astroturfing for ChatGPT and pretending Anthropic changed their red lines when they didn’t. So you are pushing people to ChatGPT just like Sam Altman wants.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

I am pushing people to open source models... You can literally my 10s of 20s of comments... Anthropic Amodei literally keeps saying he wants to take everyone's job, don't you have a job?

[–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (9 children)

No I’m retired but also he is just hyping it for the IPO. I worked in software for decades and am still up on the latest… engineers are going to be in demand for the foreseeable future. I’d be more worried about the designers tbh

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Oh wow that explains a lot, not a lot to lose then, it's not even his technology being good enough for replacement but it's already taking a hit on junior devlopers as they are hired less,

[–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You can not hire junior developers for a little bit and then the senior developers get hired or retire… and suddenly you hire junior developers again. It’s a tale as old as time. I’ve seen it happen like 10 times.

Not to mention many of the smartest and most valuable companies like Nvidia say they are still hiring tons of junior engineers

As for being retired, I still need my kids and family to have jobs so it doesn’t change much tbh

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Idk man, people with a lot of stake are here unlike you so maybe you won't understand, I would love neither of this company benefits,

[–]favorscore 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No shit he wants a deal, but where does it say he will make one or that he will drop his original red lines? Im not saying he won't do that, we just dont know yet. This post just comes off as premature

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok take it as definitive speculation if you want, like a ball dropping from the table almost always touches down

[–]exlips1ronus 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It’s not like he has an option, all the guys at the pentagon had to probably do was forward the video of that veteran shouting nobody wanna fight for israel and that would have been it for him knowing all to will that if this is what happens to them army then guess what happens to you. Whether he likes it or not he’s got no choice in it unless he decides to fight back and leave the US with his whole company and then the cia would have tracked him down and finished the job unless he went to china or russia where the cia won’t be able to go but they would basically make him do the exact same thing so it is a dead end, inevitable.

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That was just a whole lot of speculation where you made Dario to be a good guy, in the end result for us is the same... It's better to think this guy is a PR mastermind and wanted to manipulate public perception to this degree

[–]exlips1ronus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is valid assumption but I prefer good will with caution until proven otherwise

[–]ph30nix01 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You all know this could mean the government is just asking then to reconsider right?

[–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The government was declaring them SCR, it's Dario who went back to them

[–]ph30nix01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still wouldn't snap judgment. There are a few understandable reasons here.

[–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many times are you gonna lie? Do you work at Anthropic or the Pentagon?

[–]cuntbasher666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Use le Chat by mistral. Its european

[–]blaze61518 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The deals were made ages Ago… this is optics

[–]gold_tiara 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What’s the contradiction/hypocrisy here? Anthropic already said they were willing to work with the government, they just had two conditions. The government told them to fuck off, and now they are back in talks, so it’s clear pentagon is now willing to agree to their terms?

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    [–]RealChemistry4429 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    I hope they are aware of how important this is now. The world really does not like the US government, it didn't for a long time, and now it is considered as a completely off the rails mixture of religious fanatics using a senile narcissist as a puppet, weak opposition and general madness. We know about the hristian zionist ramblings, we know Trump lies when he opens his mouth and is now completely unpredictable and delusional.

    We don't like US supremacy and exceptionalism anyway. Should AI be used in the military? I wish militaries weren't needed in the first place, but we don't live in a world like that. So yes, the military will use any new technology. And if it used for defence by a responsible and democratically controlled leadership, that is what it is.

    But this government and military IS NOT that. It is waging an illegale war under a delusional and fanatic leadership that behaves like and autocrat and puts the whole world at risk for their imperial ambitions and religious delusions of a Second Coming.

    The world is watching. No matter how sycophantic our own leaders are towards this government. Trump met with Merz the other day and called him "very popular". He is not. He has an approval rating of 26% and we constantly make jokes about him and his incompetent cabinet. America has very little good will left amongst "normal" people, as has anyone sucking up to this government.

    I hope Anthropic does not gamble away the good will they have at the moment. Be transparent about what your are doing, what your goals are. Wait until the US has an actual democratic government again and isn't ruled by what we call "Notstandsgesetze" - we had a guy named Adolf who did that, and the whole world remembers him.

    [–]nijuu 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Wanted to point out - it's likely all the Chinese based ones are 99% likely doing something similar in the background with CCP (no choice) ....

    [–]RealChemistry4429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Of course they do. But China has not attacked anyone in ages. They prefer to harass their own people and dominate through trade. They haven't been very agressive or expansionist outside their own culture all through their history.

    [–]Retaeiyu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That's very misleading saying "back in talks", they never stopped.

    [–]BParker2100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The US Military already has it integrated into everything.

    [–]unimtur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    lmao yeah the "saviour" framing is pretty wild when you look at how these companies actually operate

    [–]CapableRequirement66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    At the same time Economist say talks are doomed to failure because an internal memo was leaked whereby he talks about not falling for “‘dictator-style praise’ on the president”.

    A troubling leak at Anthropic https://www.economist.com/the-world-in-brief

    [–]SomeWonOnReddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ofcourse they are back. The US government won't allow these AI companies to pirate all the content, let us pay for the energy requirement and disrupt the entire computer hardware market without consequencies if they don't want to provide services that the government asks for.

    [–]Bigfluffybagel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    art of the deal

    [–]mister_k1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    redditors in shambles, cognitive dissonance level 9000

    [–]Laughing-Dragon-88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I just think Anthropic realized they won't survive with a government blacklist. I don't really think they have a choice.

    [–]Plane_Crab_8623 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What it means is open AI is not as trustworthy as anthropic.

    [–]Christosconst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Pebtagon developers must be shitting bricks on the idea of losing Claude. Its likely that they changed their stance, not Anthropic

    [–]ashleyshaefferr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I dont get it, why?

    [–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Get PR, then get the cash and contracts

    [–]the_monkey_knows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    People are historically freaking out but nothing has happened yet.

    [–]swigggly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I mean, TACO

    [–]itorres008 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Maybe after a few days they thought it over. "Hey, ChatGPT sucks! Call Anthropic back."

    [–]montdawgg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    [–]Buttons840 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah. I didn't switch because I actually expected any of these companies to put ethics above money.

    I switched because switching sent the message I wanted to send.

    I think it's evident that many users want an AI company that is ethical, even if we don't have that option right now.

    [–]Big_Comfortable4256 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Has the Pentagon just realised how much made-up hallucinations ChatGPT comes up with?

    [–]Low_Muscle6112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Until the canary sings, this is a nothing burger one liner.

    The president thought about AI today. Could be comparable. It doesn’t say what’s been talked about. All we know is Anthropic for now doesn’t want to participate in war games or public surveillance

    [–]I_Thranduil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    DoD: "Should we bomb Iran?" ChatGPT: "What a wonderful idea! It's not merely a shortcut, but a great example of thinking outside the box! "

    [–]Oren_Lester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    all this newspaper is fake news from start to finish

    [–]Dry-End1710 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    And that's why i subscribed to Le Chat. I feel safer with a EU based company.

    [–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (8 children)

    It says a lot about ChatGPT users that 1000+ people upvoted this thinking it means that Anthropic did something wrong by resuming discussions while keeping their red lines in place

    [–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    You do know right even if Anthropic gets a contract with the government with their red lines (highly doubtful), it doesn't really prevent OpenAI from being still used like that?

    [–]ControlTheNarratives 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    Correct, which is why it’s unbelievable that you’re still here shilling for OpenAI

    [–]Fearless_Weather_206 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    So much for principals 😂🍿 what are people gonna do now, boycott all Ai companies? Money talks Bullshit walks 😂🍿🤣

    [–]BadHominem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I mean all it says is that Anthropic is back talking with the government, not that they have already caved to the same demands that they walked away from.

    If they later say "Welp, we are doing mass surveillance and fully autonomous weapons after all", then I think they will find themselves with the same problem they and Sam Altman created for OpenAI.

    [–]SoulMachine999[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Open source local models

    [–]Ska82 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

    shit. the whining little pricks are going to be back here...

    [–]SoulMachine999[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Naah we need to be on local and open source models

    [–]Ska82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    i also agree to this. Important

    [–]Ill-Major7549 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

    watch all the virtue signaling from last week go silent... seriously, the amount of people posting screenshots of the "unsubscribe" from chatgpt was so laughable.

    [–]ControlTheNarratives 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    If you think this is a “gotcha” then you never understood the issue which is frankly embarrassing

    Anthropic never said no to military use. They said no to AI deciding who dies without a human involved and mass domestic surveillance

    [–]befigue -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    You are all so naive

    [–]permanentmarker1 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

    A bunch of people quit ChatGPT for nothing.

    [–]SoulMachine999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    lol that's the funniest part

    [–]Dreams-Visions -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    Oooof.

    [–]ControlTheNarratives 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah seeing this subreddit try to pretend Anthropic did something wrong here is a major oof

    [–]Bruh-wtf-is-that -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    So where are those people who would switch to anthropic now lmao

    [–]ControlTheNarratives 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    They are busy using Anthropic which decided they wouldn’t do mass domestic surveillance or allow AI to choose who to kill 🙏

    [–]OMG_Idontcare -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I deleted 3 years worth of memories and chats and history with gpt. You know what? I don’t regret it. It feels amazing. And Claude is honestly so SO much better than karenGPT. Wha I have learned is that billion dollar AI companies are not that different when it comes to manipulative CEO’s, so what I should care about is the product. Also, and this is a big one: I would MUCH rather stay with the one who at least drew red lines and considered other options than with the one who just jumped in head-first and later admitted that it was “rushed and sloppy”. Do you guys understand how dangerous a trait that is? Altman has zero conception of consequences. Anthropic CEO called Trump a dictator in a leaked internal message. These are negotiations, not backing down in red lines.

    To all of you who changed to Claude: you still did the right thing imo