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It is absolutely untrue, that Hungarians do not support Ukrainian people. Hungarians know very well, what it feels like to have a Russian boot on your neck. Furthermore, they are well aware, that if Russia conquers Ukraine, they will have Russia on their borders again, and yet further, they are well aware, that imperialists never stop.

If Russia made it all the way to Lisbon, it wouldn't have been enough for them. They would start looking across the Mediterranean to expand further, they would start looking across the Atlantic. Imperialists never ever have enough. So if they occupy Ukraine, they

It is absolutely untrue, that Hungarians do not support Ukrainian people. Hungarians know very well, what it feels like to have a Russian boot on your neck. Furthermore, they are well aware, that if Russia conquers Ukraine, they will have Russia on their borders again, and yet further, they are well aware, that imperialists never stop.

If Russia made it all the way to Lisbon, it wouldn't have been enough for them. They would start looking across the Mediterranean to expand further, they would start looking across the Atlantic. Imperialists never ever have enough. So if they occupy Ukraine, they will most definitely sweep across Hungary with their gluttonous imperialistic gaze, looking for an opportunity to “liberate” Hungarian people, who are “really just Russians who started speaking an ugro-finnic language a long time ago, but in reality they are as Russian as Muscovites”. It might sound ridiculous now, but if Russia conquers Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised one bit, of Russian propaganda started spewing out this sort of stuff.

Hungarian people aren't stupid, they are very well aware of these facts. If nothing else, their grandmothers and grandfathers told them about 1945, when Russian hordes arrived the first time, and 1956, when they arrived the second time. They know what happens, when Popov and his buddies smash through your front door.

In general and on average the stance of Hungarian people is little different than stance of any other European people. We are very strongly united and standing by Ukraine. A few Hungarians were swayed by Orban's incessant state funded propaganda, but if you look at the polls, its effect is surprisingly low. A state propaganda machine should be able to make a bigger impact on public opinion, but Hungarians allign pretty well with the rest of the Europeans.

So why is Hungarian politics so disgustingly pro-russian? Because Hungarian prime minister Victor Orban is a Putler's asset. Orban has been bought and paid for by Putler's oil money. Combine that with his natural fascistoid and authoritarian leanings, and you get Hungarian policy towards Russian invasion of Ukraine: Orban is running an ardently pro-russian policy, which he is trying to disguise with a thin veil of pacifistic isolationism, and his masquerade is grotesquely unsuccessful; it is absolutely clear to everyone, that he is pro-putler.

Eventually Orban’s ties to Putler are going to be revealed. I sort of wonder, how Hungarian people are going to feel, when it comes out, that Orban had been following Putler's orders all along. That their state policy had been hijacked by a corrupt fascist, who sold their state policy to an autocratic madman with delusions of grandeur. Well, eventually we will find out.

Orban won't have any monuments commemorating him in Hungary, that's for sure.

Viktor Orban, the man bringing shame upon the Hungarian people.


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Hungary has been providing significant support for Ukraine since the breakout of the war.

Hungary has so far welcomed more than a million refugees, of which tens of thousands stayed in the country. There are schools set up for Ukrainian children, where they can continue their studies in their language. Hungary has been sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine, food, medicine, clothing, medical equipment and much more. Not many people know but Ukraine even get its fossil fuel from Hungary these years, without which it would collapse. Beyond that Hungary also provide financial support for Ukrainian go

Hungary has been providing significant support for Ukraine since the breakout of the war.

Hungary has so far welcomed more than a million refugees, of which tens of thousands stayed in the country. There are schools set up for Ukrainian children, where they can continue their studies in their language. Hungary has been sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine, food, medicine, clothing, medical equipment and much more. Not many people know but Ukraine even get its fossil fuel from Hungary these years, without which it would collapse. Beyond that Hungary also provide financial support for Ukrainian government to help the running of the state in these difficult times. Hungary has so far voted for, and contributed to all the EU aid programs too.

As a share of GDP, Hungary in fact has provided more significant aid to Ukraine than the UK, the US, Canada or France who have been considered as the main supporters

Government support to Ukraine: By donor country GDP, incl. and excl. EU share
Includes bilateral allocations to Ukraine, as a percentage of 2021 GDP. Does not include private donations, support for refugees outside of Ukraine, and...

What Hungary doesn’t do, is military help. The country doesn’t send weapons to the war.

So it’s unfair to say that Hungary is not onboard with supporting. We don’t expect thanks for this, but it is perhaps not unreasonable to expect that at least Hungary would not get constantly badmouthed - mostly for political reasons.

Wrong stance. The Hungarian governing party, FIDESZ is not onboard supporting Ukraine, they are clearly Putin’s fiercest supporters within NATO and EU. Which is not simply a shame, but also an act of treason, betraying not just the alliances we are members of, but also the Hungarian people.

There are clear movements, groups and individuals who are supporting Ukraine’s fight for freedom and sovereignity, (google for Kárpátaljai Sárkányellátó) by various means. So it is not that simple, that Hungarians not supporting Ukraine. Some are pro-Russian, for sure, and the state media, which is a majorit

Wrong stance. The Hungarian governing party, FIDESZ is not onboard supporting Ukraine, they are clearly Putin’s fiercest supporters within NATO and EU. Which is not simply a shame, but also an act of treason, betraying not just the alliances we are members of, but also the Hungarian people.

There are clear movements, groups and individuals who are supporting Ukraine’s fight for freedom and sovereignity, (google for Kárpátaljai Sárkányellátó) by various means. So it is not that simple, that Hungarians not supporting Ukraine. Some are pro-Russian, for sure, and the state media, which is a majority, also, but it does not mean, that there are no pro-Ukrainian Hungarians too.

Back to the original question, Hungary needs a leadership change. For lots of other reasons too.

Ukraine got large humanitarian aids from Hungary. Hungary received 2 millions refugees from Ukraine, and supported 600 000 with other things, they needed. 35 000 Ukrainians moved in Hungary, 5000 Ukrainian children could have education in Hungarian schools. - In return Ukraine made Nazi style educational law against the ancient, native non-Ukrainian peoples, as the 150 000 Hungarians, who survived the pan-Slavic Soviet-Russian planned genocid against the Hungarians. A large territory of Hungary was stolen by Soviet-Russia with a lot of Hungarians. The surviver Hungarians could preserve mother

Ukraine got large humanitarian aids from Hungary. Hungary received 2 millions refugees from Ukraine, and supported 600 000 with other things, they needed. 35 000 Ukrainians moved in Hungary, 5000 Ukrainian children could have education in Hungarian schools. - In return Ukraine made Nazi style educational law against the ancient, native non-Ukrainian peoples, as the 150 000 Hungarians, who survived the pan-Slavic Soviet-Russian planned genocid against the Hungarians. A large territory of Hungary was stolen by Soviet-Russia with a lot of Hungarians. The surviver Hungarians could preserve mother tounge education, which was strengthened by the basecontract between Ukraine and Hungary in 1995. - But after the CIA-Maydan Coup in 2014, the Ukrainian Nazis got power, who started to creat racial laws, New Ukrainian Lebensraum against the ancient, native non-Ukrainian peoples as the Hungarians. - The US DEEP STATE CIA support the Nazi Ukraine to make proxy war against Russia, to make the largest military industry business for the US and does not care about the brutal Ukrainian Nazism, cultural genocid!

The Core Idea

Jeremy Griffith is an Australian biologist who has devoted his life to explaining the human condition – humanity’s contradictory capacity for both immense love and shocking selfishness and cruelty. He holds that this paradox can be fully explained in biological terms, without recourse to mysticism, ideology, or faith.

Griffith’s Instinct vs Intellect explanation of the human condition has attracted notable support from prominent scientists and thinkers who see it as a major breakthrough in understanding human nature. Professor Harry Prosen, former President of the Canadian Psychiat

The Core Idea

Jeremy Griffith is an Australian biologist who has devoted his life to explaining the human condition – humanity’s contradictory capacity for both immense love and shocking selfishness and cruelty. He holds that this paradox can be fully explained in biological terms, without recourse to mysticism, ideology, or faith.

Griffith’s Instinct vs Intellect explanation of the human condition has attracted notable support from prominent scientists and thinkers who see it as a major breakthrough in understanding human nature. Professor Harry Prosen, former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, described it as “the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race” while Professor Stuart Hurlbert, biologist at San Diego State University, praised Griffith as “Darwin II” for presenting “A truly phenomenal, beyond description, scientific achievement!

The Instinct vs. Intellect Explanation

The heart of Griffith’s theory is what he calls the “instinct vs. intellect” explanation.

The ability that science has given us to understand that our gene-based, naturally selected instincts were only able to give us orientations to the world means we can now appreciate that when our nerve-based, self-managing, fully conscious mind emerged and began carrying out experiments in managing our life from a basis of understanding the world, our inflexible, ‘dictatorial’, non-understanding instinctive orientations were inevitably going to be intolerant of and condemning of our conscious mind’s instincts-defying, self-managing experiments in understanding, which is our necessary search for knowledge.

But without this reconciling and redeeming explanation that science has finally made possible of the difference between the gene and nerve-based learning systems, which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand, our conscious mind had no way to counter this feeling of condemnation and criticism from our instincts, other than to attack the ‘criticism’, try to prove it undeserved, and to block it from its thoughts. This was the genesis of our immensely heroic, psychologically upset, angry, egocentric and alienated HUMAN CONDITION.

The Liberation It Brings

Without the real defence for why we defied our instincts, humans have had to rely on the artificial defences of anger, egocentricity and alienation. What is so indescribably wonderful is that this ‘Instinct vs Intellect’, ‘genes can orientate but nerves need to understand’, obvious (now that it has been explained) GOOD reason for our angry, egocentric and alienated, ‘good and evil’-stricken, instinctive-self-or-soul-corrupted, ‘fallen’ human condition has finally lifted the so-called ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race, which means those old defences are no longer necessary. They are, in Griffith’s words, “obsoleted and can end”, bringing about the psychologically redeemed, reconciled and healed transformation of our species.

Why It Matters

This explanation is what sets Griffith’s work apart. It doesn’t offer transcendence, ideals, or coping strategies. It resolves the problem at its source, redeeming humanity by showing we were never fundamentally bad. Our destructive behaviour was the heroic price of our search for knowledge.

This is why leading thinkers have described Griffith’s theory as momentous. As quoted above, Professor Harry Prosen and Professor Stuart Hurlbert have both written powerfully about its significance. Others have been equally emphatic:

  • Professor David Chivers, University of Cambridge anthropologist, said “The sequence of discussion in FREEDOM is so logical and sensible, providing the necessary breakthrough in the critical issue of needing to understand ourselves.
    Professor Patricia Glazebrook, former Chair of Philosophy at Dalhousie University, said, “
    Frankly, I am ‘blown away’ as the saying goes…The ground-breaking significance of this work is tremendous.
  • Professor Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, the world’s leading researcher on positive psychology, wrote that it “might help bring about a paradigm shift in the self-image of humanity – an outcome that in the past only the great world religions have achieved.
  • Sir David Attenborough, Britain’s most famous naturalist, said simply, “I’ve no doubt a fascinating television series could be made based upon this.

Summary

Jeremy Griffith’s theory of the human condition is that humanity’s capacity for both love and destruction can be explained through the unavoidable clash between instincts and intellect. With that conflict now explained and reconciled, the burden of guilt is lifted and the way is opened for the transformation of human life on Earth.

For anyone wishing to learn more, all Griffith’s books, essays, and video presentations are freely available at the World Transformation Movement’s website

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Footnotes

Which program? Making war to the end of times — is this some kind of a reasonable program? Don’t fool yourself, there is no program — just business and strategy on cynically put on the back of poor Ucraineans… and also the rest of the indirectly involved.

According to a recent poll, 75% of respondents in France want security guarantees for Ukraine to avoid another war and 72% consider Russia a threat.

According to the poll by the French Institute of Public Opinion (IFOP), published on September 12, 2025:

  • 61% of French respondents are in favor of Ukraine joining NATO (56% for EU);
  • 59% in favor of continued supply of weapons even if a ceasefire is achieved;
  • 47% of French people are now in favor of sending ground troops to enforce a ceasefire with Russia, while only 36% oppose it (compared to 65% who were opposed in March 2025 — the shift is enormous)

According to a recent poll, 75% of respondents in France want security guarantees for Ukraine to avoid another war and 72% consider Russia a threat.

According to the poll by the French Institute of Public Opinion (IFOP), published on September 12, 2025:

  • 61% of French respondents are in favor of Ukraine joining NATO (56% for EU);
  • 59% in favor of continued supply of weapons even if a ceasefire is achieved;
  • 47% of French people are now in favor of sending ground troops to enforce a ceasefire with Russia, while only 36% oppose it (compared to 65% who were opposed in March 2025 — the shift is enormous).

So, not only the government of France but the people of France also support Ukraine — and support their government’s aiding Ukraine to defeat Russia.

Let’s ask the founder of modern Poland himself:

“There can be no independent Poland without an independent Ukraine”

Or his thoughts on Russians:

“They are all more or less disguised imperialists, including revolutionists. The trait of these minds, always longing for the absolute, is a vivid centralism. They loathe varieties, cannot conciliate dissonances - such things dull their will and imagination to the extent that they cannot combine varieties into one whole; they reject even the idea of conscious social organizations. Let everything happen by itself, vividly - that is the wisest solution acc

Let’s ask the founder of modern Poland himself:

“There can be no independent Poland without an independent Ukraine”

Or his thoughts on Russians:

“They are all more or less disguised imperialists, including revolutionists. The trait of these minds, always longing for the absolute, is a vivid centralism. They loathe varieties, cannot conciliate dissonances - such things dull their will and imagination to the extent that they cannot combine varieties into one whole; they reject even the idea of conscious social organizations. Let everything happen by itself, vividly - that is the wisest solution according to them, because it is the simplest and the easiest. Which is why there are so many anarchists among them. A strange thing, but I have never met any republicans among Russians!”

“Bolshevism is a disease which is peculiar to Russia. It will never grow deep roots in any countries which are not entirely Russian.”

Can I speak honestly? Not too much. Ukraine is not in the focus of Hungarians. And if something, nothing good, I think. Definitely, Ukraine is Hungary’s most miserable neighboring country. This country seems to be very chaotic, poor, characterized by coups and corrupt politicians and not only the Ukrainian extremists but also various Ukrainian governments made unfriendly steps against the Hungarian minority of the country. Ukrainians might think that their country must be a paradise in Europe, but what happened to this country after the fall of communism, is much worse than the development in

Can I speak honestly? Not too much. Ukraine is not in the focus of Hungarians. And if something, nothing good, I think. Definitely, Ukraine is Hungary’s most miserable neighboring country. This country seems to be very chaotic, poor, characterized by coups and corrupt politicians and not only the Ukrainian extremists but also various Ukrainian governments made unfriendly steps against the Hungarian minority of the country. Ukrainians might think that their country must be a paradise in Europe, but what happened to this country after the fall of communism, is much worse than the development in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia or even Russia.

Ukrainian women are sometimes really beautiful (incl Ukraine's former PM, Tymoshenko) this is the only positive thing, which I can mention if I am honest, sorry. She was beautiful, but not really successful, unfortunately.

It is not true Hungarians are and did help Ukrain too but not as much as others as Hungary is quite a small country and cannot afford more support. Another thing Ukraine and Hungary still have some stuff to be settled and ukrainians must also learn thy cannot just take and take and others will only give and provide.
Stay reassured all eu and isa want the war in the ukraine to end and ukrain to win.

Vow… why to talk about Hungarians in general? Why not about pm Viktor Orbán and his captive, brainwashed 1–2 million followers most of whom would happily jump out of a 6th floor window might the Leader ask them to do so? Orbán indeed has built a rock-solid system of one-man rule, and with no open violence. The corruptive power of money and a narrative brilliantly targeting the fears, traumas, prejudices, anxieties, hatred and ignorance of so many people did the job. After eliminating political life from Hungary his next step was stepping on the international stage and kick the ball in the leag

Vow… why to talk about Hungarians in general? Why not about pm Viktor Orbán and his captive, brainwashed 1–2 million followers most of whom would happily jump out of a 6th floor window might the Leader ask them to do so? Orbán indeed has built a rock-solid system of one-man rule, and with no open violence. The corruptive power of money and a narrative brilliantly targeting the fears, traumas, prejudices, anxieties, hatred and ignorance of so many people did the job. After eliminating political life from Hungary his next step was stepping on the international stage and kick the ball in the league of Erdogan, Putin, Trump and a few others, all with big countries behind their backs. In his delusional mind most likely he sees himself as a world leader, a first for a country of 9.6 millions. His game with Ukraine is connected to this. Also, he needs the image of the horror of the war - “for which the war-mongering West is responsible” - to strengthen his position as the chieftain of a tribe under threat, from which only he offers protection.

“Nothing but peace, nothing but Fidesz!”

Thanks for the A2A.

Did you study history in school? If you had, you would have known that you are using exactly the same argument as Hitler used when he started to invade neighbouring countries. He claimed that there were Germans being mistreated, and took it upon Germany to “save” non-German citizens who had not asked to be saved.

If you act like a Nazi, you get treated like a Nazi.

Hungary gives a lot of consideration to the treatment of Hungarian ethnics from all countries they are in, so no surprise here. If it conditioned its support only on that, it would be ok. However, it seems Hungary has turned into a Kremlin puppet, promoting Russian interests in the EU, because they are so energy dependent on Russia.

On the other hand, Ukraine has to understand that its accession into the EU means it has to give its ethnic minorities certain rights. Afterr WW2, USSR incorporated territories from other countries, territories that are now in Ukraine. While none of its Western neig

Hungary gives a lot of consideration to the treatment of Hungarian ethnics from all countries they are in, so no surprise here. If it conditioned its support only on that, it would be ok. However, it seems Hungary has turned into a Kremlin puppet, promoting Russian interests in the EU, because they are so energy dependent on Russia.

On the other hand, Ukraine has to understand that its accession into the EU means it has to give its ethnic minorities certain rights. Afterr WW2, USSR incorporated territories from other countries, territories that are now in Ukraine. While none of its Western neighbours demand these lands back, they still demand respect of the rights of their ethnics to study in their maternal language, to have priests preach in their churches in their language. Forceful Ukrainization will quickly turn the current goodwill of its neighbours. The people promoting the idea of no help to Ukraine argue that they are no different than Russians, both dismissive and arrogant when it comes to smaller neighbours. I do hope this is not the case, but Ukrainians have to undertand that these seemingly minor issues for them are important to the people they are asking for support.

Let me answer with a picture.

Because sometimes a picture worth a thousand words.

Let me answer with a picture.

Because sometimes a picture worth a thousand words.

Thank you for this question Arvydas, although it would have been better to think a bit before asking. I think those Europeans like you, who apparently and quickly forgot Hungary’s countless contributions to European civilization and history will just as easily forget this rather insignifcant episode. So my summary answer is: very few Europeans will remember, even in 20–30 years, because this is very likely Viktor Orban’s last government.

The more sane ones among us can make a distinction between countries/nations and their governments.

Or do you also equate Americans with Trump, Biden (or whoeve

Thank you for this question Arvydas, although it would have been better to think a bit before asking. I think those Europeans like you, who apparently and quickly forgot Hungary’s countless contributions to European civilization and history will just as easily forget this rather insignifcant episode. So my summary answer is: very few Europeans will remember, even in 20–30 years, because this is very likely Viktor Orban’s last government.

The more sane ones among us can make a distinction between countries/nations and their governments.

Or do you also equate Americans with Trump, Biden (or whoever is in power at the moment) and their policies?

One more thing. Hungary, as far as I know, does not “obstruct:” any European country’s efforts to help Ukraine. But when it’s the EU’s common funds, then they’re a contributing member. Personally, if I contribute financially to a project, I want to have a say in how the money is spent. So regardless if we agree with Hungary’s position or not, Hungary does have a point here. But Hungary does help Ukraine (with humanitarian aid, mostly, but also training army medics, free healing for wounded military, free holidays for war oprhans, etc.) and it does not prevent anyone from helping Ukraine bi- or multilteraly in any way they seem fit. If you think they actually do obstruct such help, feel free to share, but I have never heard of it.

So instead of insulting an entire nation, I’d recomend you to inform yourself better in the future.

The Hungarian government supports Hungarian minorities across the border in order to enable them preserve their Hungarian identity. In the more than one hundred years since the Treaty of Trianon, Hungarian minorities in the countries surrounding Hungary have been oppressed, persecuted, and tried to eliminate in every way. But the Hungarian minority in Transcarpathia was in a much worse situation even before the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian war, with obstacles to self-determination, language use, and physical threats being commonplace. The president of the Cultural Association of Transcarp

The Hungarian government supports Hungarian minorities across the border in order to enable them preserve their Hungarian identity. In the more than one hundred years since the Treaty of Trianon, Hungarian minorities in the countries surrounding Hungary have been oppressed, persecuted, and tried to eliminate in every way. But the Hungarian minority in Transcarpathia was in a much worse situation even before the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian war, with obstacles to self-determination, language use, and physical threats being commonplace. The president of the Cultural Association of Transcarpathian Hungarians was wanted for arrest on trumped-up charges in 2020, but to avoid the mock trial he fled from Ukraine to Hungary.

NATO wasnt created with the idea of having to force any member to do anything, if you are familiar with the concept of the soviet union or the warsaw pact it is basically the total opposite of those.

As such, members can literally do whatever they want, which in hindsight was slightly silly of NATO, as it never occurred to NATO it would end up with a failed state who sides with the enemy as a member.

So Hungry doesnt have anything to Navigate as such, it can just do whatever it wants, and unfortunately for NATO, there is no way to actually kick a country out of NATO, so it cant do anything about

NATO wasnt created with the idea of having to force any member to do anything, if you are familiar with the concept of the soviet union or the warsaw pact it is basically the total opposite of those.

As such, members can literally do whatever they want, which in hindsight was slightly silly of NATO, as it never occurred to NATO it would end up with a failed state who sides with the enemy as a member.

So Hungry doesnt have anything to Navigate as such, it can just do whatever it wants, and unfortunately for NATO, there is no way to actually kick a country out of NATO, so it cant do anything about that.

It was always designed as an alliance for like minded democratic nations, and at that point in time democracy felt like a one way street, no one expected a democracy to become a dictatorship later on, and that was a fatal flaw in the idea.

The EU has the same problem, it just didnt occur to them that after being allowed in a country would then regress to a point that if it were to apply to join again in future it wouldnt be eligible, they really should have set a floor on how low a country was allowed to sink before being kicked out.

For NATO this isnt as big a problem as it is for the EU, the EU really is in a very bad position with regards to Hungary.

Hungary supporting Ukraine since years, and in this conflict also supported in all the way: voted all the sanctions against Russia, welcomed nicely the high numbers of refugees (since today 800.000 arrived from Ukraine).

But Hungary have 150.000 national hungarians in Ukraine as minority, so we will not risk their lifes with irresponsible and sensless actions. Also Ukraine in the past very harshly discriminated this nationality, restricted their right to language usage and education on their mother tongue. Ukrainians blowned up the office of the hungarian party in Ukraine, and the extremist rig

Hungary supporting Ukraine since years, and in this conflict also supported in all the way: voted all the sanctions against Russia, welcomed nicely the high numbers of refugees (since today 800.000 arrived from Ukraine).

But Hungary have 150.000 national hungarians in Ukraine as minority, so we will not risk their lifes with irresponsible and sensless actions. Also Ukraine in the past very harshly discriminated this nationality, restricted their right to language usage and education on their mother tongue. Ukrainians blowned up the office of the hungarian party in Ukraine, and the extremist rightwing ukrainians organized several intimidating nationalist march on the city west of Ukraine (Beregovo), where the hungarians are in majority…. So we have not many reason to love the present Ukrainian goverment, but we supporting the ukrainian people, as we does always…

Putin threatened “strong response” to all the countries, who supporting Ukraine with killing guns. Poland put himself into a gundepo center position I will not suprise, if Poland will be in trouble because of this decision, and they risking WW3… But they know why so important for them this run into the death… We hungarians have zero interest to do the same.

Sending killer guns into a warzone is highly hypocrite. Simply you promoting the sides to kill each others, without your participation. This is the most awful behavior I can imagine. Hungary supporting all the humanitarian aids to Ukraine, but not this gun business. Also supporting the negotiations for the Ukraine’s EU membership (which will be many years more of course)..

Hungary has withdrawn its veto after its proposal was accepted. But I think that such policy is led by Hungarian PM's personal interests: he wants to be seen as a “protector” of Hungarians abroad, and he also plays for Putin, which gives him a leverage to blackmail the EU.

Footnotes

Please note the original question, which has been vandalised. I wonder why?

While the question is a bit extreme, it is a very interesting one. Up until now, Poland and Hungary have been the “bad boys” of the EU, in both cases, ruled by a right-wing government with authoritarian tendencies. Both have historical issues relating to territory, but the Polish people have settled with what they have. The solidarity with Ukraine is remarkable, and across domestic divides.

In Hungary, there is still quite a lot of looking back. Poland’s days of pomp vanished at the end of the 18th century. Thereafter, i

Please note the original question, which has been vandalised. I wonder why?

While the question is a bit extreme, it is a very interesting one. Up until now, Poland and Hungary have been the “bad boys” of the EU, in both cases, ruled by a right-wing government with authoritarian tendencies. Both have historical issues relating to territory, but the Polish people have settled with what they have. The solidarity with Ukraine is remarkable, and across domestic divides.

In Hungary, there is still quite a lot of looking back. Poland’s days of pomp vanished at the end of the 18th century. Thereafter, it was a struggle to retain even the reality of a nation. Further, at the end of WW2, they gained territory as well as losing some. In one way or another, they have very strong reasons to distrust Russia. Yes, there was violence with Ukrainians, evil on both sides, but it is easy to relate to a nation being tyrannised by Russia.

Hungary was large, geographically, within the Hapsburg Empire. It had the misfortune to be on the losing side in both world wars. It gained nothing, and its grouses are not simply with the USSR, and modern Russia does not include the areas of loss. The thought that a resurgence of Russian power might reverse some of this may be in Orban’s mind.

There are, no doubt, many more prosaic reasons for Hungary to hedge its bets. But the difference is striking.

Not anymore than Germany has been reluctant. Hungary has accepted 342k Ukrainian refugees, most of which probably are from Transcarpathia. Hungary is in a precarious position, its economy cannot survive without Russian gas, and the threat of Russian invasion of Hungary is not likely. In this context Hungary is not quite an ally that could be depended on, because its interests do not align with those facing potential Russian invasion. It would pay costs without any benefit, even now as the EU court has imposed sanctions upon Hungary, there really isn’t a reason for Hungary to do much more than

Not anymore than Germany has been reluctant. Hungary has accepted 342k Ukrainian refugees, most of which probably are from Transcarpathia. Hungary is in a precarious position, its economy cannot survive without Russian gas, and the threat of Russian invasion of Hungary is not likely. In this context Hungary is not quite an ally that could be depended on, because its interests do not align with those facing potential Russian invasion. It would pay costs without any benefit, even now as the EU court has imposed sanctions upon Hungary, there really isn’t a reason for Hungary to do much more than accept refugees.

  1. There is no obligation to provide assistance to Ukraine. If anything Hungary is acting like a responsible NATO and EU member. It is acting responsibly towards these organizations, unlike the rest of the countries.
  2. Besides, it is completely wrong to say that Hungary has refused to provide assistance. It is. It just isn’t going to provide weapons or military aid that only fuels the conflict.
  3. Hungary gets its energy supplies from Russia. It can not afford to pay for scarce US freedom gas. It is not on the US-CIA gravytrain, unlike Poland.
  4. Hungary is remaining neutral, which is the smart thing to do.
  1. There is no obligation to provide assistance to Ukraine. If anything Hungary is acting like a responsible NATO and EU member. It is acting responsibly towards these organizations, unlike the rest of the countries.
  2. Besides, it is completely wrong to say that Hungary has refused to provide assistance. It is. It just isn’t going to provide weapons or military aid that only fuels the conflict.
  3. Hungary gets its energy supplies from Russia. It can not afford to pay for scarce US freedom gas. It is not on the US-CIA gravytrain, unlike Poland.
  4. Hungary is remaining neutral, which is the smart thing to do. I would suggest it is they, and not Turkey, who should be hosting peace talks. Turkey is one of the worst offenders of international borders in the world, illegally occupying Cyprus, Syria, and Iraq.
  5. Do you want to know more?

Opposition's Collapse: What's Behind it? - Hungary Today

Never forget? Really? It will be forgotten within a few months or maybe a year as it has always happened in the history. The moment there is a government who is more in line with the EU mainstream, Hungary will be the darling of Europe. Just look at the other former boogeyman, Poland. The moment Tusk took the power, all of a sudden all rosy and flowery there. Hungarians have been pushed to the good or bad side of the various history books too often without any consideration of any previous brownie points we believed to hold or real or perceived sins we committed in the history. These small Cen

Never forget? Really? It will be forgotten within a few months or maybe a year as it has always happened in the history. The moment there is a government who is more in line with the EU mainstream, Hungary will be the darling of Europe. Just look at the other former boogeyman, Poland. The moment Tusk took the power, all of a sudden all rosy and flowery there. Hungarians have been pushed to the good or bad side of the various history books too often without any consideration of any previous brownie points we believed to hold or real or perceived sins we committed in the history. These small Central and Eastern European countries are pawns on the global chessboard.

Don’t want to depress you, but Lithuania might become a bogeyman too in a blink of an eye one day, regardless how cool you feel you are in the eyes of the mainstream today

Without the Hungarian support:

- 800.000 ukrainian refugees will be imprisoned into Ukraine

- The first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth vawe of sanctions will be NOT accepted in the EU.

- Ukraine will be not enough gas supply, because they got 25% of their gas from Hungary.

Plus Hungary rebuilding schools in Ukraine, sending millions of dollars value humanitarian aid (food, medicine).

But Hungary on the side of peace, and not supporting sending weapons into a warzone!

Zelensky’s goverment on the past years directly discriminated and opressed the 200.000 hungarian minority on Zakarpatska. So we

Without the Hungarian support:

- 800.000 ukrainian refugees will be imprisoned into Ukraine

- The first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth vawe of sanctions will be NOT accepted in the EU.

- Ukraine will be not enough gas supply, because they got 25% of their gas from Hungary.

Plus Hungary rebuilding schools in Ukraine, sending millions of dollars value humanitarian aid (food, medicine).

But Hungary on the side of peace, and not supporting sending weapons into a warzone!

Zelensky’s goverment on the past years directly discriminated and opressed the 200.000 hungarian minority on Zakarpatska. So we have an issue with Zelensky’s ultranationalist rhetoric - and looks soon the world also on the way, to fed up with him. Also we don’t jump into the rusophobia track with russian hater countries, who banning Tolstoy and Tschaikovsky on the same way, as Hitlerist nazis does - the mindset behind this collective sin idea are totally same!

Hungary more plural democracy, as anywhere else in the neoliberalist- wokist west. Do nothing with Putins Russia. Because Hungary keeping it’s souvereignity, christian tradition, family values - it became the main target of the world hegemon neoliberal forces, which using their opinion terrorist fake news mainstream medias, to way down Orbán and Hungary. This battle started from 2010, but strengthened in 2015, during the migration crisis. Their rampage coming from their pain, that Hungary - with Poland - not accepting their globalist plans… But in the Ukraine question Poland running after their blind emotions, and not seeing the behind the scenes movements…But despite that we love them before anyone else!

Hungary supporting Ukraine, but not on blind way, as Soros and their NGOs proclaimed in Davos, with the will of WW3 and to destroy Europe. Hungary supporting with whole heart the ukrainian people…

I don’t think so. If it wasn’t ended in 1939, where Hungary sided with Hitler but refused any hostile acts against Poland, it won’t end now. The traditions of mutual support are somehow inbuilt into our history.

Let me make a point that many people miss. Just because I support Ukraine’s resistance to the hostile invasion of their country by President Putin’s army does not mean I think Ukraine, it’s armed forces, or President Zelensky are perfect. It means I support them.

I’m a citizen of the United States. I support my country, but I certainly don’t think it’s perfect.

I am active on Quora, thereby supporting it, but I certainly don’t think it’s perfect.

So, since I am fully aware of the situation in Ukraine, the history of Ukraine and Russia, European history, the geopolitics that followed the dissoluti

Let me make a point that many people miss. Just because I support Ukraine’s resistance to the hostile invasion of their country by President Putin’s army does not mean I think Ukraine, it’s armed forces, or President Zelensky are perfect. It means I support them.

I’m a citizen of the United States. I support my country, but I certainly don’t think it’s perfect.

I am active on Quora, thereby supporting it, but I certainly don’t think it’s perfect.

So, since I am fully aware of the situation in Ukraine, the history of Ukraine and Russia, European history, the geopolitics that followed the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the history of NATO, and the two decades of Putin’s rule and his actions preceding the invasion, do you think pointing out some faults with Ukraine, its government, or its armed forces is going to stop me from supporting them? Do you think pointing out some history or pseudo-history about the relationship between Russia and Ukraine will make me instantly side with Putin?

You can pull out all the historical arguments you want, real or propagandized. You can publish reports of alleged misdeeds by Ukrainians fighting against the Russian army. You can question the motivation of President Zelensky or the US or NATO. I may even agree with some points. It doesn’t matter.

This is not some comic universe where two superheroes clash and you chose to support your favorite. This is real life and the political and economic freedom of the countries of Europe is at stake.

So, if anyone thinks they can introduce some single revelation that will make me instantly change my mind, they are gravely mistaken. I suspect that’s true of most informed Americans who support Ukraine in this conflict.

Hungary has a right even to openly support Russia in this war. But just having a right doesn’t mean others would like you exercising it. Including EU neighbors who clearly see Orban’s government policy is milking both EU and Russia to feed his populist plans. Just like Belarusian dictator Lukashenka was, in his early years, only without a vote in EU or NATO.

Now, could you maybe have missed it… Ukraine’s current prez is a kinda ethnic minority, either. Never been his fan, yet his 73% of votes strongly suggests that 73% of Ukrainians just don’t care about ethnic origins when it comes to business

Hungary has a right even to openly support Russia in this war. But just having a right doesn’t mean others would like you exercising it. Including EU neighbors who clearly see Orban’s government policy is milking both EU and Russia to feed his populist plans. Just like Belarusian dictator Lukashenka was, in his early years, only without a vote in EU or NATO.

Now, could you maybe have missed it… Ukraine’s current prez is a kinda ethnic minority, either. Never been his fan, yet his 73% of votes strongly suggests that 73% of Ukrainians just don’t care about ethnic origins when it comes to business.

The only “oppression” imposed on the minorities is a requirement to know Ukrainian. Like Hungary expects all their citizens to know Hungarian, French citizens are supposed to know French etc. no matter which language do they speak at home.

they are not surprised, but not at all ...

it is true, that Ukraine is undergoing an illegitimate war from Russia, but if she could, she would do it herself ...

it's us Europeans who think that Ukrainians look like us. In a certain sense, they are even worse than the Russians. For example under Russian domination (even the USSR ±) the Ukrainians have survived for centuries and kyiv in no time intends to 'delete' them, assimilate them (the Russians under its domination) ...

even today under Russian domination several peoples (are) coming. Crimean Tatars will not have to give up their identity ...

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they are not surprised, but not at all ...

it is true, that Ukraine is undergoing an illegitimate war from Russia, but if she could, she would do it herself ...

it's us Europeans who think that Ukrainians look like us. In a certain sense, they are even worse than the Russians. For example under Russian domination (even the USSR ±) the Ukrainians have survived for centuries and kyiv in no time intends to 'delete' them, assimilate them (the Russians under its domination) ...

even today under Russian domination several peoples (are) coming. Crimean Tatars will not have to give up their identity ...

on the side of tolerance towards each other, that Ukrainians are even worse than Russians ...

those who know this (like most Hungarians), do not be surprised, amazed at this statement ...

but we must not forget that we are at war. Ukraine is suffering enormously. It can explain ... also ... that the lyrics can go too far. For combatants, the belligerents ... those who don't stand with them ... may seem to be on the other side. Hungary, the majority of Hungarians condemn Russian aggression, but also condemn kyiv's intolerance towards its minorities (which partly causes this bloody war) ...

Ukrainians occupy Hungarian territories that have belonged to the Kingdom of Hungary for more than 1,000 years, and no "Ukrainians" have ever lived there. Hungarians, Ruthenians and Jews lived there.
Because Ukrainians do not even know their history, they do not know that it is enough to look at an ordinary geological map, and it is clear to everyone that the hungarian Kárpátalja is part of the Carpathian Basin.
After World War I, the Czechs annexed Northern Hungary (hungarian Felvidék - now "Slovakia") and Subcarpathia (Kárpátalja) to the Czechoslovak Republic - they were not interested in th

Ukrainians occupy Hungarian territories that have belonged to the Kingdom of Hungary for more than 1,000 years, and no "Ukrainians" have ever lived there. Hungarians, Ruthenians and Jews lived there.
Because Ukrainians do not even know their history, they do not know that it is enough to look at an ordinary geological map, and it is clear to everyone that the hungarian Kárpátalja is part of the Carpathian Basin.
After World War I, the Czechs annexed Northern Hungary (hungarian Felvidék - now "Slovakia") and Subcarpathia (Kárpátalja) to the Czechoslovak Republic - they were not interested in the fact that the Czechs did not live there at all. Subcarpathia belonged to Czechoslovakia for about a ridiculous 19-20 years, then returned to Hungary.
After World War II, Comrade Stalin stuck out his tongue into the Carpathian Basin and forcibly annexed the territory of Kárpátalja to the USSR.
One 90-year-old uncle in the early 90's said that he had lived all his life in his village - he didn't move anywhere, but he lived in five states - a nice destiny!

Instead of thanking the Hungarians for accepting the most Ukrainian refugees in relation to their population, and thank them for not sending weapons that would only spread another death among the people of Ukraine, they want to destroy and divide Hungary? Truly human comrade Zelenskij!

True friendship never dies. Hungarian-Polish friendship will never die. Certainly not because of an issue like support for Russia. Like in any family, people don’t always agree. That doesn’t mean they stop being family. Shout out to the Hungarian brothers.

The question I answered has been edited. I want to make it very clear that the question I am answering is:

Why isn’t Hungary supporting Ukraine?

I believe there are four reasons:

1-Orban likes Russia because it is a conservative, traditionalist state.

2-Orban simply doesn’t believe in the Ukraine cause

3-Orban is pissed off at the EU for sanctioning his country over multiple issues

4-Orban feels it is in his national interest to keep the Russian energy imports coming at a good price. He’ll probably resell them to other European countries at a higher price, as they continue to need the Russian energy

The question I answered has been edited. I want to make it very clear that the question I am answering is:

Why isn’t Hungary supporting Ukraine?

I believe there are four reasons:

1-Orban likes Russia because it is a conservative, traditionalist state.

2-Orban simply doesn’t believe in the Ukraine cause

3-Orban is pissed off at the EU for sanctioning his country over multiple issues

4-Orban feels it is in his national interest to keep the Russian energy imports coming at a good price. He’ll probably resell them to other European countries at a higher price, as they continue to need the Russian energy but are too proud to admit this.

He’s taking some refugees but that’s it.

Answer is simple. Poland as well as Ukraine had tasted “loving and brotherly” embrace of Russia(or its previous incarnations), knows how devious, brutal and merciless Russia is in its methodology. Poland has 4 documents that assured its safety and guaranteed that USSR won’t attack it. Did it help? Nope, USSR gladly ignored these 4 agreements and shared Poland with Nazi Germany. Same about Russia.Few agreements with Ukraine on ”Good neighborhood”, Budapest memorandum etc. Did these documents stop Russia from occupying Crimea and warmongering on Donbass? Nope.

There are ethnic Hungarians living in Ukraine. They have been living there for the past 1100 years.

We had agreements with Ukraine regarding minority rights. They scaled back on them. We asked not for something new, but to restore what they had. The Ukrainian government said they have a war going on, they don’t have time for this.

They did have time to fire every ethnic Hungarian from public admin jobs, demolish monuments, remove multilingual sings, ban Hungarian schools and education, take over institutions, and surveil, harass and imprison representatives.

What will it take you ask? On the top

There are ethnic Hungarians living in Ukraine. They have been living there for the past 1100 years.

We had agreements with Ukraine regarding minority rights. They scaled back on them. We asked not for something new, but to restore what they had. The Ukrainian government said they have a war going on, they don’t have time for this.

They did have time to fire every ethnic Hungarian from public admin jobs, demolish monuments, remove multilingual sings, ban Hungarian schools and education, take over institutions, and surveil, harass and imprison representatives.

What will it take you ask? On the top of my head? I don’t know.

Thrown out of NATO? What is wrong with the question?? Oh, wait, NATO is a defend organization. Did any NATO member get attacked? No. So?
Poor Unkraine was attacked. What has it got to do with NATO? Is it a menber of it? No, and I think it will never be. Why would NATO defend it? And if it did, it would mean WW3 and Russia has the largest atomic weapon arsenal, therefore cannot be defeated.

What does Hungary has to do with it other than we are neighbours, many Hungarians were born and live there (a part of Ukraine used to be Hungary), we help the refugees and somehow we try to push things in the

Thrown out of NATO? What is wrong with the question?? Oh, wait, NATO is a defend organization. Did any NATO member get attacked? No. So?
Poor Unkraine was attacked. What has it got to do with NATO? Is it a menber of it? No, and I think it will never be. Why would NATO defend it? And if it did, it would mean WW3 and Russia has the largest atomic weapon arsenal, therefore cannot be defeated.

What does Hungary has to do with it other than we are neighbours, many Hungarians were born and live there (a part of Ukraine used to be Hungary), we help the refugees and somehow we try to push things in the direction of peace.

Other than that, Ukraine is very rude and cruel on minorities (not only Hungarians but also Russions) and their rights, that is basically where the problems started beasides they would like to join the EU and NATO… Dont’t think that it is a democratic society.

Orban is a schmuck, there are a lot of them in Hungary. He may be elected but acts more like a dictator. He attempts to siphon money from. the E.U. and get’s pissy when he doesn’t get his way. It began when immigration became an issue. He coddles puupuu in ruzzia in an attempt to get his gas and oil needs met circumventing sanctions because he’s just that way. He pisses and bitches about Ukraine f

Orban is a schmuck, there are a lot of them in Hungary. He may be elected but acts more like a dictator. He attempts to siphon money from. the E.U. and get’s pissy when he doesn’t get his way. It began when immigration became an issue. He coddles puupuu in ruzzia in an attempt to get his gas and oil needs met circumventing sanctions because he’s just that way. He pisses and bitches about Ukraine for appearances to puup...

It is not the Hungarians who are not supporting Ukraine. It is Orban and his pro-Trump and pro-Putin policy.

During the last years the corrupt nazi-like regime of Ukraine was very hostile and malignant towards the Hungarian minority, and probably with the Romanian and Russian minorities too. Some weeks before the Russian-Ukrainian war, Ukraine frightened Hungary with a war. Due to the Hungarian government is not stupid, Hungary don’t want to give weapons to anybody, who wants to use it against the Hungarians… On the other hand, Hungary has a weak army, therefore don’t want any war, neither against Ukraine, nor against Russia. Hungary declared neutrality, but both the NATO both the EU nominally also n

During the last years the corrupt nazi-like regime of Ukraine was very hostile and malignant towards the Hungarian minority, and probably with the Romanian and Russian minorities too. Some weeks before the Russian-Ukrainian war, Ukraine frightened Hungary with a war. Due to the Hungarian government is not stupid, Hungary don’t want to give weapons to anybody, who wants to use it against the Hungarians… On the other hand, Hungary has a weak army, therefore don’t want any war, neither against Ukraine, nor against Russia. Hungary declared neutrality, but both the NATO both the EU nominally also neutrals.

the vast majority yes. In the election themes there was mention of that too... it is a minority that supports the war and would like to send arms to support it...

to my knowledge Hungary, the Hungarians do not oppose against the supply of Ukraine, only when it comes to weapons. They are for peace. They condemn Russian aggression and also kyiv's intolerance against its minorities (which is causing this war)...

because they support peace. They do not want to defeat Russia ... like most European countries, but to put it into negotiations... like Ukraine too ...

it is an erroneous view to believe that the Hungarians are supporters of the Russians ...

it comes from the impression of the warriors, who want to defeat the Russians ...

Hungarian government just announced that it will support Ukraine’s joining to the EU

There will be elections in Hungary this year. The Fidesz government failed to handle the Covid Situation (In percentage 127% died in Covid compared to the Spanish Flu epidemic. Also they are failed to fix the economy.

Today there is a price limit on certain foods and fuel, Hungarian forint inflated badly, and despite the minimum wage was raised, the inflation take it away. Hungary currently has the greatest national debt since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

And despite it seems that the Fidesz will use its pol

Hungarian government just announced that it will support Ukraine’s joining to the EU

There will be elections in Hungary this year. The Fidesz government failed to handle the Covid Situation (In percentage 127% died in Covid compared to the Spanish Flu epidemic. Also they are failed to fix the economy.

Today there is a price limit on certain foods and fuel, Hungarian forint inflated badly, and despite the minimum wage was raised, the inflation take it away. Hungary currently has the greatest national debt since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

And despite it seems that the Fidesz will use its political power again to make laws about the election that will favour themselves (because yes this is why Fidesz won the previous elections) The people are getting frustrated so before the election they make alll their moves very cautiously.

On the other hand Hungarians are very divided on the topic. First of all they want peace. As a small country we are tired of being punchbags and clash zones of other countries. And many of us do not see this war anything else than this as well. It is not about Ukraine but its about power flexing between the U.S. and Russia.

Despite Putin’s tactic were described as a failed blitzkrieg, it was not. It seems that Putin hoped that the first wave will be enough to convince Zelensky to leave his plans to join to NATO and Ukraine will stand as a country between two worlds.

So many Hungarians think that this is not their war not even the Ukrainian people, so they think that by sending weapons to Ukraine will cost more lives and it will Escalate the war further.

And to further complicate the things, Hungary has a relatively big minority in Ukraine at Kárpátalja. And as Putin said the rights of minorities in Ukraine seems to be shrinking. Russian, Polish, Hungarian etc schools are being closed, etc.

So it's maybe not big enough news on world stage but in Hungarians news not just news from the war come but news how Ukrainian Nationalist and/or alt-right groups hold demonstrations against Hungarians.

For Hungarians the situation is not as black and white as for others but there are lot of shades of grey in-between them.

We are divided who is wrong and who is right in this war, yet we are agreed on that the war should stop as soon as possible without great casualties and that we will provide humanitarian aid for the Ukrainian people as much as we are capable

Well, it`s not the stance of Hungary, but the stance of the Hungarian dictator Victor Orban.

Orban`s stance on the Ukrainian war is, that the Russians would eventually win, and that instead of military solution, a peaceful agreement should be reached. Furthermore, he doesn`t believe that Ukraine should join the EU.

As much I despise Orban, and think that he is the mouthpiece of Putin, my personal opinion is that yes, the Russians will eventually win, as this conflict is turning into a war of attrition. It`s not technology that wins wars, but soldiers, and the Russians have much, much many more s

Well, it`s not the stance of Hungary, but the stance of the Hungarian dictator Victor Orban.

Orban`s stance on the Ukrainian war is, that the Russians would eventually win, and that instead of military solution, a peaceful agreement should be reached. Furthermore, he doesn`t believe that Ukraine should join the EU.

As much I despise Orban, and think that he is the mouthpiece of Putin, my personal opinion is that yes, the Russians will eventually win, as this conflict is turning into a war of attrition. It`s not technology that wins wars, but soldiers, and the Russians have much, much many more soldiers than the Ukrainians. Russians always won wars like this. Messed up at the beginning, but further it went, more they had the upper hand.

About peaceful solution: It`s not really possible, as the Russians would simply demand the territories they already occupied, and Zelensky would not allow that.

I also agree with Orban that Ukraine will not join the EU. Partially because they are very far from the standards demanded by the EU from joining countries, and partially because the EU doesn`t want them in. Not really, as they always wanted Ukraine to be a buffer country between them and the Russians and this war just proved how important that is. Ukraine`s accession to the EU is more like a blackmail, or power signaling than an actual intention, and even if it happens, it will take probably decades, by which time the Russian state will be gone anyway, thanks to their collapsing population.

In a sense Europe isn't supporting Ukraine, but rather the concepts of freedom and self determination of a sovereign nation. There's also some history to it, WW2 showed that appeasement just doesn't work, if Putin is allowed to take Ukraine without outside opposition, then he will simply line up another country for the taking. At some point Europe and the rest of the world would have to get involved, so it's better to do it now rather than later, to minimise the damage and suffering.

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Their Parliament is not in session.

“Being on vacation” seems like a pretty valid reason to me, although I’m at a loss as to how the country functions with a Parliament out of the office for months on end.

Because Viktor Orban is somewhat tight with Russia and friends with Puitin, even though Hungary may not support the war in the Ukraine, especially because, as you already know, Hungary receives its fossil-fuels from…Russia, perhaps at discounted prices.

But, assumingly, since it is summer on the European continent, there may not be an urgent need for natural gas for heating, but only for industrial processes and cooking.

You should also know if Russia knows its customers are supporting the Ukraine, Putin, can shut off the natural gas pipelines to these East and West European nations, too.

Why should it?

In NATO, each member does what it can to support those attacked by enemies/rivals, etc. I note that Hungary has taken in over 1/2 million Of Ukraine’s people seeking shelter, safety from Russia’s wrongful and genocidal actions against Ukraine’s people. I note also that Hungary’s leader sees his nation as absolutely dependent on Russia for energy. It is what it is, and he has to take care of Hungarians first.😇

Hungarians have tradition of beeing on the wrong side. (Last 5 centuries - maybe it is result, that Magyars came to Europe late and they are quite different.) Now they cooperate with ruSSIans from several reasons:

  1. They think: there are two possibilities, ruSSia lost/win. If lost then nothing bad will be done to Magyars from Europe side, Hungary will not be exhausted from EU…, if ruSSians win, there Hungary receive parts of Ukraine which were part of Hungary kingdom before WWI. And maybe also part of Slovakia and Poland.
  2. In all wars the best result have areas/states who cooperates with both sides

Hungarians have tradition of beeing on the wrong side. (Last 5 centuries - maybe it is result, that Magyars came to Europe late and they are quite different.) Now they cooperate with ruSSIans from several reasons:

  1. They think: there are two possibilities, ruSSia lost/win. If lost then nothing bad will be done to Magyars from Europe side, Hungary will not be exhausted from EU…, if ruSSians win, there Hungary receive parts of Ukraine which were part of Hungary kingdom before WWI. And maybe also part of Slovakia and Poland.
  2. In all wars the best result have areas/states who cooperates with both sides of conflict. Spain is better after WWII than Britain, Switzerland is the richest place in Europe, etc.
  3. Orban as local dictator has no partners in Europe. His style is much more similar to Putin, and thinking of Magyars is much more similar to ruSSians than to Europeans.

Orban sucks up to Putin despite Hungary’s past subjugation by Russia after WW2 and the crackdown after the 1956 Uprising.

He has made them very dependent on Russian gas.

Perhaps they should remove their brains, scrub them clean in the sink and then with no rational thinking process left wonder what to do with them 🤷🏻‍♂️

You know like western people have 🤨

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