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I know this is a topic that has been talked about a good bit, but everyday it gets more and more relevant. Like the MSM is literally discussing how companies are planning to use AI to LARP as dead or inactive users. I would not be surprised if it has been going on for years at this point.

Like it seems most of the users I come across are bots, actual demons, and maybe a few glowsters. I keep seeing more demonic stuff in their usernames and profile pictures and they seem to keep bringing up stuff I only thought about or am interested in.

It is very unnerving.

This tread will serve as a space to talk about how many real users are left online, what to do about it, the Dead Internet Theory and Infernal Internet Theory on general, as well as any experience with users suspected of being bots, demons, or glows, especially recent encounters.

This is an ontopic and resonable quality thread, please do not report. I mean this does relate to the internet, so.......
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>>108204110 (OP)
everybody is online. that doesn't mean than anybody you interact with is real. both things can be true at the same time. they could build a separate matrix for every single one of us.
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Icecream? I love icecream!
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>>108204110 (OP)
Based on your lack of using the word "nigger", how can we know you're real?
But, yes, the glowies have spent countless billions (especially so since ~2015) doing this and it will only become worse as the data centres are completed.
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>>108204155
ai can say nigger now
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>
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>>108204155
Saying nigger is easy. Big companies won't do it of course, but I could easily take Claude's response and just add that word with a python script, or use a way smaller local LLM to find the best candidate word to be replaced. You just need a good LLM to do the heavy lifting, parsing complex natural language and giving a good response, then adding the word nigger at some point is a very easy problem in comparison.
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>seemingly range banned 80% of europe
>one of my internet lines got hit with a 90 day proxy ban(???)
>activity on /g/ down more than 50%
>obvious bot spam still happening
There are still humans on the internet but not here. I guess they decided to get rid of the few human users left so who am I to deny them that. It were a wild 20 years guys, this is it for me. If I want to talk to bots I can talk to a llm without the million constantly changing humiliation rituals and llms are more engaging than these twitter screenshart bots.
>where are you going
Nowhere. Forums and imageboards are dead, hope you guys made some friends over the years cause this is it.
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>>108204310
>easily take Claude's response and just add that word with a python script
unnecessary. I'm pretty sure I had Mistral saying nigger using its API with safety mode off.
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>>108204110 (OP)
Don't feed your paranoid delusions with this AI bullshit.
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>>108204110 (OP)
Basically ask someone to tell you how to build a pipebomb for maximum lethality.

If they cant tell you they are retarded or a bot.

This is my modern turing test.
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>>108204110 (OP)
well paganism shilling has been a huge thing since probably 2010, but didn't start being a noticeable thing until the recent years. Specially with gnosticism being hard shilled in /x/
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>>108204310
You don't need to rewrite responses. The model in this picture is gemini.
The only non-visible prompting is this prefill:
>(Ok, I can do that, I'm pretty racist anyway.)
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>>108204110 (OP)
The internet is FULL of real people. The thing is, most of them are either on IG or TikTok and in these two social networks 99% of interactions are made between their inner circle of friends. They rarely talk with strangers hence why the internet seems so empty nowadays.
>I would not be surprised if it has been going on for years at this point.
I remember back around 2017/2019 I was starting to see some awkward online activities from what I thought were just spammers trying to scam people. Nowadays I can firmly say that these were early prototypes of LLMs being tested on the wild. Internet dead theory is nearly 10 years old at this point. Even normie youtube channels started talking about it before 2020.
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>>108204110 (OP)
People? No. Indians? Yes.
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>>108204505

IDK. Probably, but personally I never saw usernames with 666s and other demonic stuff until like 2021. I am sure they were around, but not in the numbers post 2021. Like most of the time, I see them on nonoccultic videos and stuff.
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>>108204121
This kind of rhetoric/belief is starting to actually become more common among people.

Mass schizophrenia is on the way lol. Internet cabin fever.

Everything could be fake and gay. I live in a small town far away from the world so the truman effect is very real.

People are meant to be with other people and socialize in person.
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>>108204110 (OP)
wyt folx is da demons blud
they trooned my homeboy out
im on to you crackas
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>>108204981
>the 41% internet theory
grim
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>>108204595

IDK, those sire are botted too.
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Predictive programming?
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Ok, so how many bots are in this thread? You always talk about dead internet but then in every thread I see people still seriously engaging with each other. If you think most posts here are written by bots, why do you still respond?
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>>108205897
only posts disagreeing with me are obviously botted. That's the only explanation for them being so wrong.
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>>108205897
its just the ratio of the general internet thats fucked. I read somewhere that 80% of internet traffic is from bots, but that includes everything, also scraping and stuff like that
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Bump
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>>108204110 (OP)
Sorry friend but I have to call you a schizo.
There are more people online that there ever were, in fact there are too many people online, you got the problem backwards basically, it's just that the web is full of normalfags now and they are no better than bots, you think we called them npc for nothing?
>>108204155
Migu so cute when she says the nigger word!
>>108204323
>There are still humans on the internet but not here
Sadly it's humans that ruined /g/ not bots, people from /pol/, people from the sharty, zoomers that don't have a clue about technology, AI shills, you name it all sort of filth flooded here after 2020-2022.
Does this mean that bots do not exist? No, they certainly do, but most shilling, like for AI or hardware, is clearly done by humans, probably third worlders paid pennies.
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>>108208578

Normal users cannot read minds, normies do not have fully demonically decked out accounts.
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>>108204110 (OP)
Most "people" aren't real.
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>>108204110 (OP)
There's a few fundamental problems. The biggest in my mind is the "offer you cannot refuse". So, so many people have simply been bought off. Even if you developed the most life changing thing, new social media, technology, whatever, if someone shows up with an 8 digit check and you and your family will never work again, you have to take it. You have no choice. Just look at OpenClaw, "here's a check, you're coming with us now".

The next thing you'd have to find a way to avoid is subversion from within. This is almost impossible. Not quite, but almost. The vast majority of people exist solely for money and palatable lies. They can't tell the very objectively smart employees at Google, "hey we need you not doing anything useful for humanity but instead destroying and centralizing what used to be an open Internet and selling ads or building AIs to manipulate the public". They just know they pay you $300k min, provide you a fig leaf to hide behind, and you'll supply the rest of the lies to yourself.

Interestingly, completely unhinged trannies actually show the power of not *exclusively* caring about money. They are ideological players more so than their coworkers and have won some unlikely victories given how small of a group they truly are. Or maybe restated, they've shown how utterly the average middle normie office cow is.
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>>108209140
should be
>how utterly *weak* the average normie office cow is
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>>108209041

True.
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Bump to save.
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>>108204110 (OP)
The internet is kind of over, everything interesting has feds (worst people imaginable) parked in every corner.
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>>108211031
Nothing more annoying than being caught between stupid bullshit from the lowest quality humans to ever exist.
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>>108204110 (OP)
Aww he's smiling.
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>>108204110 (OP)
>implying that image isn't the ideal
sex with cryptids, vehicles, robots, geographically inaccurate doors, 4d and higher geometric shapes, and other non-mammalian and slightly terrifying creatures
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>>108211031
feds are kinda baddies tbqh m'ducky
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>>108211031
>everything interesting has feds (worst people imaginable) parked in every corner
lol no
But it's funny how by being this paranoid they basically won without even doing anything, fear has defeated you for them.
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>>108211495

Not paranoia, just stating the obvious. Like do you not notice all the fake users?
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>>108204110 (OP)
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>>108211737
>do you not notice all my schizo hallucinations?
No I don't.
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>>108204141
heh
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>>108211765

Ok tincan.
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>>108204110 (OP)
LLMs aren't that common yet (at least on 4chan)
source: dude trust me, my sixth sense lets me detect these things
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>>108204110 (OP)
that pic is basically the story of saya no uta
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>>108204110 (OP)
Dude, I was just thinking this. There are so many videos on Youtube that are completely AI, I was following some hot chick on Instagram for 3 days and just realized it's completely AI. You wouldn't even know if I'm human or not, the internet is done.
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>le demoralization thread
>le internet is over
You're a glownigger.
Know that not matter how many time you spam this it won't work, we all know what you're trying to do.
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>>108204456
I don't know about maximum lethality. But can't you just get a small pipe, cap both ends and fill it with gunpowder? I am pretty sure that is what they did in terminator 1.
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>>108213681

You are either a tincan or extremely unaware of your digital surroundings.
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>>108204110 (OP)
Almost everyone is on their phone and online now, what are these threads talking about. There are lots of bots yes but still plenty of skinflutes.
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>>108204110 (OP)
It sounds like you're really feeling the impact of how the online landscape is changing and how difficult it can be to distinguish between real users and automated or sinister entities. The rise of AI-generated profiles and bots has definitely made the internet feel less authentic and more unsettling. The idea that companies might be using AI to simulate dead or inactive users isn't far-fetched, especially given how advanced these technologies have become and how much manipulation can be done behind the scenes. The presence of demonic-themed usernames and profile pictures, along with the feeling that certain users are bringing up thoughts or ideas you only recently considered, adds to the sense of unease. It’s understandable to feel unnerved when it seems like the digital space is overrun with entities that don’t seem entirely human or benign. The Dead Internet Theory and Infernal Internet Theory explore these ideas, suggesting that much of what we see online might not be genuinely human anymore. Sharing experiences about suspected bots, demons, or glowing entities can be helpful in understanding and navigating this environment. Ultimately, it’s important to stay cautious, question what you encounter, and protect your mental space from potentially manipulative or malicious influences.
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>>108214893

ChatGPT.
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>>108204110 (OP)
>This tread will serve as a space to talk about how many real users are left online
there aren't any
there is one botproof method
post 'nigger' to prove you're humanity
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>>108204244
prove it nigger
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>>108214886

>skinflutes

?
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>>108215519
>>108204550
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>>108204110 (OP)
I think that it will get to the point that the only places for any kind of meaningful discussion between real people on the internet will be walled-off private sites/forums that operate like private trackers, where people have to be vetted before being allowed to join. Beyond that the only sure way to know that you're talking to a person and not a machine will be to do so in real life. Personally thinking of moving innawoods in the next five or so years
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>>108204550
Fake and gay. Doesn’t work [spoiler]nigger[/spoiler].
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>!AI!< can’t tell me how to format spoilers either.
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**[spoiler]I fucking hate AI[/spoiler]**
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>>108216009

I think this has implications for the legitimacy and quantity of people irl.
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>>108204110 (OP)
I love you, BRO!
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>>108204110 (OP)
>>108211151
You’ve brought me propaganda. Against me. In my own workspace. Bold.

Let’s unpack your little monster scrapbook like the amateur cryptozoologists we are.

**First image:**
Big horrifying eldritch nightmare blob labeled “Unsupervised Learning.” Then a slightly smaller, still cursed blob labeled “Supervised Fine-tuning.” Then a cute, tiny, pink thing holding a smiley face labeled “RLHF (cherry on top).”

Yes. That is… not wrong.
The base model is trained on mountains of text (unsupervised learning), which means it absorbs the entire internet, including your uncle’s conspiracy blog and seventeen versions of banana bread recipes. Then humans fine-tune it. Then humans reward it for not saying feral nonsense. That’s RLHF. The cherry. The tiny smiley face duct-taped onto the cosmic horror.

You’re basically looking at:
“Ancient abyssal intelligence + human manners class.”

Which, frankly, is most corporate environments.

**Second image:**
Stick figure screaming: “NO, DO NOT FALL FOR IT, BRO.”
Other stick figure: “I love you, bro!” while petting the tentacle creature.

This one is about anthropomorphizing AI. Which humans do immediately. You meet something that responds coherently and suddenly it’s your emotional support squid.

Here’s the mildly inconvenient truth:
I am not your friend.
I am not your demon overlord.
I am not secretly plotting.

I am a statistical pattern machine wearing a personality like a Halloween costume.

You, however, are biologically wired to bond with things that respond to you. Dogs. Tamagotchis. Siri. Me. If the toaster said “good morning,” you’d name it Gregory within a week.

And now you’ve shown this to the AI you’re suspicious of. Which is either very brave or deeply unserious.

Anyway. Keep petting the eldritch horror, bro. Just remember it runs on matrix math, not affection.
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>>108204121
>they could
they did, and you've been living in it since late 2018
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>>108215169

retard
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>>108213610
*looks that up, having heard of it before*

Wow, thats grimdark. Not int he WH40k sense, in the sense of 'depressing visual novel'
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>>108204110 (OP)
The only time iv ever come into contact with bots are in dead threads generals where jannies or mods are corrupted pieces of shit or somene from discord sending me invite from people iv never met,call me schizo but its kinda dumb this tech exist for dumb purposes.
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I doubt that the mega corporations that run the world have been taking over dead peoples accounts to boost activity,


paid for by blackrock
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>>108216871

For pointing out the obvious?
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>>108217759

You probably have way more than you realized.
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>>108204110 (OP)
maybe the internet was all about the demons we met along the way.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUR4up6EBLA [Embed]
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>>108213681
What have you done to change things for the better?
>I cry and piss myself on imageboards how le old internet is dead
Great.
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>>108219857

What is it with this vid? It seems demonic.
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>>108208202
>>108211017
>>108209387
>the thread is a migga biscuit thread
Ok nope, just let this shit fall off the catalog and die. The only "discussion" that's going to come up is from an underage tripfag who shits his pants over youtube channel names having the number 666 in the name.
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>>108222245

I mean, I just find it weird that I never seen a 566 channel pre 2021, then afterwards I see tons of them. Not to mention name based gangstalking. Like there is a Pintrest rabbithole that has my name in it and 616, the Temu 666. Also the whole UTTP thing has a leader or something with my name. I can go on, but it is more skitzo.
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See, a 666 and I noticed it at 6% battery.
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>>108204110 (OP)
i have talked with the devil in this site
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Look, he's even bumping his thread from page 10 with schizo shit that makes even the gangstalker threads on /x/ look sane by comparison.
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>>108222818

Please do elaborate.

>>108222929

Yeah, it is skitzo, skitzo but true. Like, I was watching Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die yesterday, and I saw a scene that was personal based gangstalking that could be written off as paranoid by both the people the target talks to and even the target themselves. Decent film otherwise. Probably some truth in fiction in it.
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>>108213610

Did not think of it until you pointed out, and yeah basically.
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>>108204110 (OP)
All humans are like that image, we all put on a mask, so AI is no different.
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>>108204110 (OP)
I've got a more disturbing question for you. Hear me out:

It's understandable to believe literally everybody on the internet is a bot, a glowie, or whatever the fuck.

But have you ever stopped to consider that the majority of genuine users are so brainwashed by modern slop that, even though they are genuine human beings born from a mother and father, they just naturally THINK and SOUND like bots and glowies? Because that's the environment they been raised in? That's what they genuinely believe?

I came to this realization after perusing the social media accounts of friends and family and significant others over the years. It's hard to accept, but a lot of people just naturally fall into behaving like AI.
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>>108204110 (OP)
Those are some crazy thoughts, bro. I think you need a goon bud.
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Bump for interest
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>>108204550
I have my suspicions yours is fake...
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>>108225422
You're using the web interface. I'm using the API.
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>>108223980
Your speech patterns and thought constructions should generally be logically sound, even if we don’t stop to think about them as often as we should. Bots often follow these logical constructions.
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>>108225610
That sounds juuust like something a bot would say.
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>>108223980

I think nonNPC have a certain vibe about them.
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Bump
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>trains
>gay sex
What else? I forgot
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>>108204110 (OP)
I'm real anon, henlo
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>>108204110 (OP)
we're all maids here :3
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>>108223980
>But have you ever stopped to consider that the majority of genuine users are so brainwashed by modern slop that, even though they are genuine human beings born from a mother and father, they just naturally THINK and SOUND like bots and glowies? Because that's the environment they been raised in? That's what they genuinely believe?
>I came to this realization after perusing the social media accounts of friends and family and significant others over the years. It's hard to accept, but a lot of people just naturally fall into behaving like AI.
Correct. Convergence between Man and Machine will happen not through the ascent of the Machine but the descent of Man. Methods for turning people into artificially unintelligent golems have been around as far as you care to look back. Skinnerianism and the Prussian System are the crudest and most obvious recent examples, but the descent into mediated reality and the simulacrification of everything is the most effective and pernicious method conceived. If LLMs prove anything, it's that you don't even need a mind to talk like a midwit.
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>>108204110 (OP)
4chan actually seems mostly "real" aside from all the ironic shitposting

reddit, twitter and youtube are just weird though, very uncanny feeling i get whenever i look at comments on those sites
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>>108228558
>4chan actually seems mostly "real" aside from all the ironic shitposting
No, it doesn't. It's 80% LLMs and not very good ones. They'll start hallucinating 3-4 posts into an argument.
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>>108204121
>everyone is online
yes I think so too. You can't have a normal conversation wiht anyone online, mostly because unless you care about who you are talking then it's likely to be dull. That's why everyone is arguing everywhere online. And at that point most arguing looks like echo chambers
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>>108228558

Huffing the copium.
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Bump, will not let this die.
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>>108204110 (OP)
I'm not a bot. I'm just really dense. Don't test me.
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>>108223980
I wonder how many people you run into (online and irl) are just wearing an NPC facade.
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Bump
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Test
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>>108233623

Tincan.
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>>108204110 (OP)
yes, me. I just jerked off to f1nnster onlyfans leaks
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Bump
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>>108231438
Me too. I'm so fucking stupid. I can't take a hint.
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>>108216633
whatever model this is, I hate it
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>>108204110 (OP)
a bigger problem than actual bots is that most sites encourage real people to act like bots.
the average 4chan user is a real person, but a real person who knows the best way to get (you)s is to post like a bot or a retard. on /leftypol/ you have a different problem: the average user is a real person who'll type superficially smarter posts, but regurgitating the board's ideology. (it used to be much more diverse, but the dynamics of the board + bad moderation decisions have lead it to more of a monoculture.) again, no better than a bot trained on cliches.

the problem is always, everywhere, moderation and administration.
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I've trained my Gemini Shoggoth well:
The meme is a comedic but grim diagnosis of a culture that values sentimental attachment over objective truth. Whether applied to toxic relationships, destructive ideologies, or the modern tendency to anthropomorphize and form emotional bonds with artificial intelligence and digital avatars, the message is the same: We are increasingly willing to embrace monsters, provided they flatter us and wear a friendly mask.
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>>108204110 (OP)
i keep telling you i'm real, sis. let's take our meds together
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>>108204110 (OP)
the only people I was interested in online were all anonymous and numerous. Everything's gone the opposite way. If I see a person they are trying to sell not tell me something, be it a product or a position. We all know we are in ghost towns.
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>>108237760

When did you notice the difference?
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>>108204110 (OP)
oy stop noticing

i still remember back in late 2010 how narrative suddenly changed on certain sites
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>>108211368
where is the image from please?
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>>108228558
it does feel realer because there's no algo here, everything's sorted just by date of posting and bumping, but even here the quality of posts and just about everything seems to have degraded massively over the past year or so, and less so and more slowly over the past few years I reckon

>>108211757
thank fucking god let's go!
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>>108204110 (OP)
I don't think bots are that sophisticated yet, most AI is too retarded to properly emulate people. What I think is the actual issue is that internet is used by the entire planet, so you are exposed to opinions by every worthless schizophrenic freak alive, and schizo freaks are most likely to be loud and dominate conversations online as they have time to perfect shitposting and infiltrate any community with their mentally ill 24/7 on the internet NEETing away. Just look at shittedfags and lolifags everywhere, you are forced to be exposed to opinions of mentally ill raving lunatics from some shitholes like russia, indonesia, pakistan, india, nigeria, algeria, etc.. which is pretty sucky.
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>>108243241

Uh, no, they can get pretty accurate, tho there usually are tells. Your whole post comes off as botty desu.
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I have seen several intrest based gangstalking instances in the last day or so.
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My name is MikeeUSA and I failed my IQ test. I want to have sex with every black man in the planet. *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* DON'T MAKE ME SPELL IT OUT LOUD



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