https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051Age verification built into the OS, all OS
>>108207225 (OP)good luck with that. you made 4 generations of hackers and are now trying to regulate them with tools they created.
To my knowledge no entity that makes operating systems is under Colorado's jurisdiction. They might as well call for a ceasefire in Gaza.
They're running out of things to do, so they have to make up bullshit now.
>>108207225 (OP)Not enforceable. Clickbait article for tech illiterate people
>>108207225 (OP)This is a daily reminder thatComputers cost money.Phones cost money.Internet costs money.There's a complete age verification built into connecting to the fucking internet. It's called money. If some parents buy a phone for their retarded child and pay for an internet connection it's not my fucking problem. Anyone wanting to create an additional verification doesn't give a fuck about children, only wants an excuse to control internet.
>>108207271I suppose they could try harassing some open source maintainer that lives in Colorado, but that's about it.
>>108207287On the contrary anon-kun. These policies that target system levels like operating systems or even internet service providers effect the large majority of people who are not tech savvy. That is all that matters. You do not matter. Your companions are small in number and they do not matter.
>>108207225 (OP)>geriatric "muh children" lawmakers>negative understanding of computers name a more iconic duo. I'll wait
when did society start putting the burden of educating children to anyone but their parents?
>>108207225 (OP)>and LinuxBoomers (and Gen X) need to die faster because they clearly don't understand Tech.
>>108207403if you can age verify social media sites, app stores, phone os, cloud services, why not desktop os?
>>108207302This.
>>108207225 (OP)no no wait, this might be good actually>verify on OS>"OS age verification tokens" become accepted>They are easy as fuck to spoof since they depend on easily fakeable ID and selfie shots>removes all the online ID verification bullshit because every device just presents its "OS age verification token" to any site>this is your token that got made at setup with your shitty fake info, you never get bothered for ID online againI've not seen an ID system that wasn't outfoxed by 10 year olds doing dumb shit yet so I think this could work out in everyones favour (except retards who don't spoof the ID but they deserve to live as goyim)
>>108207412the 1950s
>>108207418Alright big fella, explain how exactly you intend to prevent my operating system from exposing whatever data I make it expose to processes running on my local machine. Go on, I'm sure you have sound, logical, and detailed explanation. Surely you do, don't you?
>>108207418because i can choose to run an image from 2015 published by an anonymous russian available from a cdn in siberia>>108207457drm of courseof course it won't work, but that's what he intends to use
>>108207493>>108207457the law isnt talking about personal choice, its talking about os makers implementing age verification. we can all run, mod or customize them to our liking, but its not relevant to the law.
>>108207609and who is the os maker?linux is a kernel, not an osgnome is a desktop environment, not an osgnu core utils are not an osdistributions are only a collection of such softwareso the question is, who is required to implement age verification?
>>108207651Any company that ships, read the fucking law
>>108207225 (OP)Reminder that Colorado is more woke than California will ever be and that they can't blame this on migrants
so what happens when you buy a used computer kek
>>108207302also kids have parents / guardians
>>108207688so an image shipped before the law that can update its components is exempt? none of its components is an operating system
>>108207693>they can't blame this on migrants
>>108207700They will ban used computer sales unless they're installed with a legal OS.
>>108207403negative understanding guns, and being proud of that ignorance
>>108207700isp attestations let's fkn go I can't wait for these chud suck fucks to get what's coming to them
>>108207716The problem is the fucking miners. Atomic godless individualistic minders. Most of the borders in the West were drawn by states trying to AVOID THEM!
When I told people this would happen they called me a conspiracy theorist.Next will be hardware level digital ID implementation. This all was mentioned in the protect the kids bill they pushed out a year ago.People can keep on coping about them not being able to enforce it, but they will when they put it into law that manufactures need digital ID implementation to be allowed to do business and you need it to access the internet.Unless people really start chimping out hard about this globohomo shit, the global panopticon will be built.
isnt that what GPL tards voted for, hehehe. Lunduke is noooooticing things
>>108207744I honestly can't see a situation where people would chimp out en masse about anything at this point. Nobody cares enough to do anything.
>>108207754>lundkike>noticingsensible chuckle
>>108207225 (OP)>set age at account creation>okay, my age is 21>alright, you're good to go!what is wrong with this
>>108207744I want to respond properly but censorship prevents me
>>108207744It's highly innapropriate to think that the system can be changed within. Change can only happen through strategic divestment which ultimately implies finding ways to live without paying taxes. These are too steep an asking price for most people. The battle therefore is between the convenience provided by urban lifestyles and the liberty of living outside of that.
>>108207782I always set it to 99.
>>108207287>Not enforceable.That's what you niggers said about websites requiring IDs and now it's made into a law in almost every country.Though I wouldn't be surprised if that one got passed so fast only because too many people criticized the Gaza genocide.
>>108207782What's wrong with it is that more and more things will just keep on getting added to what computers have to provide about their owners and what websites and software developers have to collect, and then there will simply be no way to get out criminal charges for trying to organize to keep yourself safe when the time comes and the government decides to kill all white people.
>>108207225 (OP)>Operating System such as Linuxyeah sure, let's make that a kernel parameter or build option. Leaving most important facts behind.demotards simply don't care.but technically speaking, It's possible to create a motherboard which would require ID scan (at least in EU, ID's have an embedded cryptographic certificate) to boot.
>>108207225 (OP)This is already law in California by the way. AB 1043. No one cared then and no one will care now. https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1043/2025
>>108207757There's a higher chance of people chimping out if they get cut off from social media than due to ID verification.Hell, people will probably recieve age verification with open arms because it might make social media usable again. People are so addicted to social media that they will willingly walk into a dystopian surveillamce syate if they get to keep using it.21st century technology has ruined humanity.
>>108207412if you think this is actually about children you are bigly retarded
>>108207377Once again you are tech illiterate and have no clue what you're talking about. You can not force ID verification at the OS level on Linux. You are an imbecile that is parroting what the headlines tell you. Also your ISP already has your ID when you signed up for their service. Literally a non-issue. In a multi-person household there is no way to enforce this even at the ISP level down to the individual person. Just like ESRB is completely unenforceable and never has been in the legal system because it's a joke.>>108207966No one said websites was not enforceable you imbecile. Also 4chan strictly shows it is. 4chan still does not age verify for UK resident. 4chan has no legal reason to. UK residents can use VPNs, which can be stood up privately at any point, and get around their age verification laws. Once again. Tech illiterate thread for retards like you two posters who spew FUD.
>>108207225 (OP)I feel it would be easier to do at the ISP level. Like before you can access any internet connection you need to ID verify with the ISP.
>>108208054>Also your ISP already has your ID when you signed up for their serviceI'm a rentoid I didn't sign shit. My landlord is the one that contracts it.
>>108208016no one, but one who gets the mail 'bout the fine of 999,000,000 for breaking the law. this will be no one but maybe Linus Torvald-san or whos the CEO in there, find me the CEO responsible for implementing that nice nice OS feature. election cycle is coming, need some funding. are every democrat voter as stupid as you, mr no one but retard-sama?
>>108207377>or even internet service providersI'm surprised they haven't done this yet.
>>108208054Please sir. Popular distros can very easily force identification verification. This will lead to mass adoption. Keep calling others retard, not like it'll make any difference.
>give normalfags 24/7 internet access with smartphones>they fuck it up so badly that people seriously start proposing age verification for computers because so many kids are getting groomed into all kinds of wacky internet cults and the ones that aren't are completely mentally fucked up by social media
>>108207377>unironically talking like a disney villainI refuse to believe actual human beings put forth effort into posting shit like this. Surely it's just generated, and some sweatshop worker just solves the captchas, unaware of what is is being said. No one in any cuture is intentionally this cringy on purpose.
>>108208046>biglyDolos? You need counselling.
>>108207225 (OP)We unironically need to start holding lawmakers accountable. Proposing a bill like this should land a politician in jail.
>>108207720but even if it has the legal OS, you can buy it with someone else's age on it. underaged will just score used computers off craigslist and surf porn or use a remote computer or some shit
>>108208369>lawmakersIt's libturds doing this shit, moron.
>>108208482Learn english before posting on an english imageboard.
>>108207225 (OP)This doesn't even require an ID like all the Republican anti porn laws, it's just retarded honor system where you can put in any birth date like you already do for any mature site.
>>108208482I don't give a shit whether it's liberals, conservatives, or the tooth fairy. Politicians that propose harmful bills like this need to go to prison.
>>108207225 (OP)I… They should unironically kill themselves at this point.What kind of fucking loser would even think this is a good idea?
>>108208547all anti-porn laws have been struct down, all social media censorship have hasnt been struct down, infact they're only escalating. control over the information is the main fight, you know it, I know it, you know that I know it, I know that you know that I know it.we dont need to play games here
>>108208586Imagine being so weak you have to control the narrative that badly.
>>108208599power play requires you to give up all sense of right and wrong
>>108208611They’ve given up more than right or wrong. They’ve given away their spines too. Or maybe power attracts the spineless?…
>>108208586>all anti-porn laws have been struct downWhat? They're not only still up, but the supreme court upheld the Texas one. Unless you're going to quibble over semantics to play damage control.
>>108207744
>>108207302>There's a complete age verification built into connecting to the fucking internet. It's called money.It costs nothing to go to the library and use the internet there.The real problem is parents not parenting their kids internet usage.
>>108207271>To my knowledge no entity that makes operating systems is under Colorado's jurisdiction.System76, which makes Pop OS, is based in Denver.
>>108207744>Chomping outSomeone explain to the audience what happens when humans get addicted to high levels of broadly distributed stable technology lead growth then are denied the ability to continue on that path.I want to hear how you feel the masses will truly react to the next generation of surveillance
>>108208054'Your' computer will come with a secure boot chain that starts in a highly user-resistant secure enclave on the CPU die (something like TPM) and will only run signed software. The only signing keys will be in the hands of the state and a few approved vendors. If your operating system does not comply to the state's satisfaction, it will not get signed by the state, and "your" computer will simply refuse to run it.
Linux cucks in shambles now that spyware will be mandatory by law.
>>108207722>nooo the 3d printed weapons of mass destruction >metal firing pin>metal spring(s)>metal barrel>store bought ammunition Lmfao, thanks for reminding me of this circus
>>108209757I literally made my own as a kid using hardware store crap and fireworks for propellant and fuse. Not legally a firearm but enough to kill an Abe or two
>>108209724>undef AGE_VERIFICATION>compile
>>108207225 (OP)Ok? Just add "by using and installing this operating system you comfirm that you are over eighteen years old" somewhere in the installer.
>>108209782Missing or bad signature on boot device. Trying next device...No bootable devices detected. Press F12 or DEL for menu.
>>108209767>Not legally ano such thing as "laws".>enough to killgood.
>>108209811there are such thing as reasons used to put your ss in prison. They're called statutes. Laws also exist, but try not to hurt yourself thinking about those and the difference between them and statutes.
Implementing age verification in the OS can violate the No Malware section of the GNU FSDG, in the worst case scenario. I urge all systems to reject this antifeature.
And on top of that, OS developers should make more efforts to make the OS child friendly.That means no Adolf Hitler quotes left in the system, Theo de Raadt.
>>108209821>statutes.>Lawsare these "statutes" and "laws" in the room with us right now?
>>108209838The laws absolutely are
>>108209827GNU advocates for mass censorship and violating privacy for everyone because it aligns with their ideology
>>108209840>the law is reeeeal>may I see it?>no
>>108209842That's completely false. GNU was created because there was no other free operating system at the time.Why do you think they threw their support behind Snowden's efforts to expose PRISM? As well as the exposure of the west's war crimes in the Middle East.
>>108209809I guess I'll have no choice but to buy Chinese products without such restrictions and become part of their botnet. At least I won't have to verify my identity.
The OP is a Pinoy who spams Lunduke (Jew) shill posts because it thinks the Jew will help it get residency in America and Jews beg for money as they want gentiles to give them more than over 100 billion dollars every month.Trannies love Jews, hence why none of these shill posts ever get deleted and why /pol/ was made.https://archive.is/yWZdzhttps://archive.is/VskAQhttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106886278/#106886278https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106894838/#106896329https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895743/#106896002https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895057/#106895909https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895743/#106896165https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895991/#106896050https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106893718/#106895855https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106896047/#106896089https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895335/#106896013https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106886280/#106896356https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106894838/#106896329https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106890554/#106895985https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895335/#106896013https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895545/#106895937
>>108207754Lunduke is a Jew and that means he wants electronic identification like he says in the retard's screenshot, you fucking retard.
the jew screeches out in pain as it stabs itself
>>108208899Yeah, I'm sure the problem is that people are spending all their days at the library on Disccord...Also, the library's computer are administered by the library. Thus, they can have a firewall or some other restrictions that can be lifted by presenting a valid ID to the librarian, if you so choose.
>>108209856You cannot interact with anyone without involving the law unless there is a complete moral decoupling and the only interaction is pure violence
>>108207225 (OP)Good job my offline lan has winXP, Win 7, Win 10 and SUSE on it along with everything I need or want and the internet is dying anyway so I don't fucking need any of the utter shit that is trying to pass itsekf off as operating systems that is made today or any of this badly designed dystopian cloud portal vomitware and spyware.
>>108209881One thing I've been wondering after this Digital ID nonsense started is: Why should I fear China now? All the "le social credit!/le chinese spying" is now completely hypocritical and can now apply to the West.
>>108208909>poop os getting flushedWould be funny if this bill had a snowball's chance in hell of getting passed.
>>108209934>every action that isnt DA LAW™ is pure violence>"sorry but I will have to ask my lawyer about holding that ladder for you"do lawcucks really?
>>108210170>lawyers define the law>I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about
>>108210181>>lawyers define the laware you quoting someone?
>>108210181>firemen define fire
>>108210207Exactly. Firemen do not define fire.
I'm working on some complex code so I'm not interested in explaining law to someone who has a reddit-tier understanding and had shown absolutely no interest in even doing any cursory research like the history of law, so I'll just leave this image as a book suggestion and focus on work.
>>108210214But lawyers can convince a judge to redefine the law and influence establish lists a mile long of things you need to do to be in compliance. They can also define contracts. Firemen aren't allowed to try to redefine anything.
They still haven't closed the older brother loophole. Scan older brother's id and older brother gives password to his age unlocked computer.
>>108207412when women got conned into becoming wage slaves, the biggest ruse in human history
>>108207688>>108208909>>108207225 (OP)So what this really is about is Microsoft attempting to engineer a way ban the sale of all linux laptops from being sold because they “aren’t in complaince”. Specifically using POP-os as their guinea pig here to try bullying, since they are based in Colorado.The dystopian privacy violations are just the gravy.
>>108207225 (OP)How exactly will this be implemented? How can we spoof it? What programs other than browsers will even use it?>>108211769They could restrict the nimber of devices each slave, uhh, I mean citizen, is allowed to own and/or operate.>>108212017Seems to be the case. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
How will they enforce this on Gnu/Linux? Distros like Arch and Debian already ignore codec patents and licenses. Cucks like Fedora and openSUSE obey. Imagine this will be a GPLv2 compatible open source kernel patch.
>>108207271They should turn Colorado into Gaza.
hello, my name is "i will never worship niggers and i hate the anti-christ donald trump". that is my legal name, and i do not use systemd.
>>108213093You want Israelis to bomb, salt the land and then take marshal control of Colorado, so they can sell Colorado land to Israeli farmers at a discount rate?
>>108213126I want people who pass retarded dystopian laws to suffer. Who is going to do it is irrelevant.
>>108207302Glad someone gets it. >>108207693Californians moving into Colorado, are the problem
>>108213135then choose your targets more carefully. it's Denver that's the problem.>>108213139>Californians moving into Colorado, are the problemUnironically this. I was actually born and raised in Colorado. Actually voted to legalize cannabis. (I didn't smoke it, I just didn't think it should be illegal) What I didn't know is that making weed would cause a massive migration from California. Started with an exponential boost in the homeless population who decided to take residence along side all the creeks that flow through Colorado Springs. I used to love exploring those creeks as a kid but it quickly became dangerous. Then California people started taking all of the entry level jobs. It was nearly impossible to find entry level work there. Then Californians started taking all of the political power in the state. First noticeable when they passed a mag capacity restriction bill. Everything got way more expensive, wasn't able to live off of any wage any place was offering. I ended up joining the army after that and left the state. Currently out of the Army and living in Alabama, hoping to hell that the Rifle bans they just passed and now the OS age verification laws don't end up here too. Californians in political office are almost is not worse then Jeets taking CEO positions in a tech company.
>>108213224I grew up in Washington State. Californians, moving into Oregon and Washington have completely fucked over both of those states as well. The politics in Seattle are just embarrassing for me to read about.
>>108213278And they have apparently run out of places to screw up in those states and are now taking over areas of southern and northern Idaho.
>>108213139So are the retarded Texans.You know how many Texas plates I see in my town? And also "Texarodan" bumper sticks.Its kind of like Florida here now, you always meet people born and raised in Florida outside of Florida, same shit with Colorado. The influx of commiefornians and inbred texans has certainly slowed as the state population has started to kind of level off the last few years, but I'm like 90% sure more than half the states population is californians and texans.
>>108213328I can verify that you're actually in Colorado by the way you said all that. The state's been a lost cause ever since the government there made all the state land you used to be able to camp on for free all paid camping, with restrooms installed everywhere. They literally left nothing good about the state alone... I really miss being able to just drive up to round mountain, set up a tent and get away from everything. Having lights and restrooms right next to you everywhere "out in the woods" if you can even call it that anymore just ruins it.
>>108208062Your landlord is not going to hide your identity when cops show up to his door.
>>108213392Think me and the wife are going to finish a few more 14s and leave. Though we aren't sure where.90% of Wyoming and Montana are desolate hellholes. Plus I don't want to step outside in Winter and instantly transport into another world where its -20F and the wind is blowing a steady 60mph.Theres still a decent amount of openly campable BLM land in Colorado, but you're right that its all made overly accessible now. Its very, very hard to find space that isn't 1) already being inhabited by some out of stater or 2) rife with humanities footprints like bathrooms, lights for the trail, etc.Also considering Idaho, but that states as backwards as Colorado just in the opposite direction.
>>108213593Wish I could help you, but I've only lived in (Fort Hood)Texas and now Alabama since leaving the state. I'm waiting to see how bad the summers are here in Alabama to have a real opinion on it. Central Texas is hell. Maybe it was just the Fort Hood Killeen area, but it's as bad as Fillmore in Colorado Springs, but also unreasonably hot.
Don't worry bros, it would be totally private. Pinkie promise that the data won't be used for any other reason.
>>108213664Fuck its getting obscenely hot here too. We had a day here in NorCo where it was 106 a few years ago. We have effectively zero humidity most of the time though.I lived in the Florida panhandle for a tech job some years back, and fucking hated it. But I do kind of miss the ocean.I have a bud in Tennessee and he loves it, so I'm considering that too, but I think wife would hate it. Getting a house and property would be reasonable there eventually though. Its next to impossible in Colorado, plus I'd have easy access to the Appalachian wilderness.Good luck in Alabama fellow colorado anon.
>>108207225 (OP)you're doing it wrong. you need this at the bios level. the new qualcomm laptops will all have 5g built in. require and ID reader in every laptop and force people to scan their ID and auth with remote govt servers before the computer boots. then the OS can pull the age verification from the BIOS after boot.colorado has the chance to lead the world!
as a windows user im switching to linux
Reminder that none of this shit is about "protecting children." It's about tracking you and building a profile on you. It's step one of a widespread Digital ID system that links everything you say and do to your identity in a government database.
>>108207902Change can only happen when jews start dying en masse.
>>108213676Why do they talk like parents don't exist or something.Your kid could also steal your wallet, walk out the house, go to the nearest dark alley in slum district and buy 20g of crack. Internet isn't special.
>>108214284Because it would defeat the narrative they're trying to push. If a kid makes a new account on a computer and lies when the age popup appears how is that any different than what happens right now when a kid lies about their age to visit xyz mature website? It would still fall to the parent to set up the device correctly and make an appropriate account for the kid. Windows and android already have parental settings included but They're going to pretend they don't exist for the sake of the bill to make sense.
>>108213676 Her mother, Barbara Pascal, was a librarian and owner of an art bookstore, Artworks.[3][4][5][6] Her family is Jewish.[7][8][9]
>>108208005It's definitely possible to build a system as locked down as you want. Think about someone else's iphone. You're not unlocking that in the same way that you won't be able to unlock your own device without an ID check.
>>108208899>>108207302>>108207225 (OP)It's not about children, it's about censorship.
>>108214437It's this all the way. >How do we get people to ID themselves online?>terrorism? Nah doesn't ring>Child safety? Maybe?>Organized crime? I mean they're benefiting from mandatory ID so that doesn't ring...>Let's go with child safety something. Vague is fine.
>>108214040>No idea why people on /g/ always shit xheir pants over stuff like that, since it will always remain a fantasy of obsessed boomers.Because those boomers can pass laws, and then you find yourself in a situation like Discord requiring IDs, effectively killing the site. Most US states already passed laws for adult content to be locked behind IDs as well. If it weren't an israeli honeypot, 4chan would've already required IDs to browse too.
>>108214437The amount of technological misunderstanding and misinformation that boomer is spouting is incredibly.>not only implying that the internet is the web but basically implying that the internet is social media>assuming that everything happens or must happens via algorithmic platformsThe well is completely poisoned, it's impossible to talk to normalfags about this because they don't even understand the topic.And this is the president of one of the richest countries on earth, what the fuck, it's truly the blind leading the blind.
>>108214040>Amerimutts would literally destroy entire global supply chainAren't they already trying to do that with "AI"?
>>108214458>>108214546Last week they openly thought about banning "social media" not only for children but also for adults, because "the algorithms create addictions"
>>108207225 (OP)wow that's great, now the state can try enforcing state laws on companies that aren't based in that state. something something interstate commerce. the fucking states are out of control these days.
grim
>>108207225 (OP)>Notice how Lunjew is not openly criticizing this billHow telling.Semi-related: we need an /incel/ Internet Celebrity board for containment purposes.
>>108214814I’ll raise you Great Britain trying to fine Xitter for 10% of their global revenue, even though most of that revenue is not from their jurisdiction.
>>108213139If Californians are the problem, why is Colorado way, way, way more woke than California? Worse gun laws. Gender affirming care laws. This bullshit. The problem is home grown
>>108213224Sorry, but no. The problem with Colorado is it's full of spawn of miners. Same problem as California, only WORSE! Most of the borders in the west were created to keep this drifting godless self centered assholes OUT of their state!
>>108213278Oregon can claim their problems are primarily due to California migrants. Colorado cannot.
>>108207225 (OP)//firefox/src/AgeVerificationShit.rsfn get_age_bracket() -> AgeBracket { AgeBracket.Adult}Sucks for people on nonfree platforms like iOS where you can't run your own code but no problem for the thinking person.
fn get_age_bracket() -> AgeBracket { AgeBracket.Adult}
>>108207225 (OP)What?
>>108215392>>108215407>>108215414Colorado wasn't this bad until they legalized pot. It's really just people coming in to legally smoke it that started the problem.
>>108215456It was getting bad and now it's DEMONSTRABLY WORSE THAN CALIFORNIA
>>108215499I'm not defending Colorado, shit's fucking bad. I'm just saying that the problems were caused by the governor that came from California, because stupid laws there didn't start until he got elected.
>>108215513LOL and his supporters aren't from Colorado?Dude, you're delusional. The problem is home grown. Bunch of trustufarian self-hating privileged pieces of shit living on generational wealth controls that state and they're bored
>>108207225 (OP)>Linux is an operating system
noootice when a democrat is mentioned, immediately lowIQs descend to primitive racism talk. its not technical! it wont happen!when those creatures brought to the light the real show starts
>>108208909>System76I bet they move to Texas pretty soon.
>>108215581CHUDuke hates Stallman so he's not going to call it GNU/Linux.
>>108214874We also need an /atf/ board to talk about alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.
>>108216923Sounds like a place to post loli, shota and cub material.
>>108207302Kids shouldn’t be on the internet but you are correct
>>108207744Enough elites need to consider the system not advantageous for them in order for a chimp out to happen. Revolutions do not occur without some form of upper support
>>108213224Northern Alabama is exploding in population. Give it 20 years then you’re screwed there too
>>108213290Idaho, Utah, and Montana are a tragic case. Such beautiful states and soon they’ll be clogged and destroyed. South Dakota is growing too
>>108213505Why is a cop showing up at the landlord’s door to collect ISP data?
>>108213737>Considering Tennessee Hate to break it to you man but lots of people are already heading there in droves.
>>108207271Oh it's not about that. It's about making everything illegal and then deciding when to enforce. To use laws like this as a multiplier when sentencing for unrelated crimes, particularly when they want somebody to disappear but they haven't done enough to make that happen. Very few people will be outright affected by the law but they'll still spend your money to expand the surveillance state and the law will be there forever.>Oi, you were caught protesting without a loiscense and we caught you running an illegal operating system as well as driving with expired tags. That's 3 strikes time to lose everything.
>>108207280>They're running out of things to do*They don't know what to do*
>>108207271It doesn't matter, all it takes is one western state/country to introduce a law and others will follow within 1~2 decades.
Why doesnt the government just provide their own API for age verification?The state has everyone's IDs already. Surely there can be an OAuth type thing to make this work.Guess it requires the state to actually put effort into new public infrastructure, but I feel like this would warrant it.Super dumb to just have independent companies handle this.
>>108214874Yeah he's saying in the last paragraph that electronic identification should be mandatory.
>>108207225 (OP)theyre already forcing this age verification bullshit across the internet honestly this solution sounds like the safest since youd only verify once with our os instead of every single website using their own random id verification company who is gonna sell your id. its extremely pozzed and gay though
>>108217187Nah, I disagree from my experience, I learned a lot from internet and had a lot of fun, as kidPlaying in various game clans and talking on teamspeak and exploring all the weird shitPeople that create these laws need to die.Ofc they will eventually
>>108207225 (OP)>all OSNot Windows 7/8.
>>108217209astute opinion noted>>108218123that approach centralizes the means of authorizing individuals>>108218253mass adoption is all that matters in the end
>>108207225 (OP)We will live in FULL totalitarianism if this persists. The slippery slope was ALWAYS real in politics. Technology has given the government abilities for control the worst dictators could have only dreamt of.
>>108208899>It costs nothing to go to the library and use the internet there.Which is where they're going to get away with watching porn, clearly.
>>108209724>lawOh noes. It's perfectly legal to ignore things that are batshit insane, and physically defend yourself against it.
>>108211756>convince a judge to redefine the lawWhat fucking shithole are you from wtf?
>>108219414Colorado
>>108207271> To my knowledge no entity that makes operating systems is under Colorado's jurisdiction.
>>108220719oh no, z/os is going to get age verification
>>108218536The slippery slope started long before we were born. It's just accelerating now.
>>108220719This explains why IBM is hiring more lawyers than programmers/technicians. The future of computing is soo gay.
>>108220738The proposed statute is silent as to where development or marketing of the product might take place in order for jurisdiction to attach, so it’s likely irrelevant that one of those offices is a site of z/OS developers. IBM markets OS products (RHEL, Fedora) into Colorado so they’d be impacted. Those are four places where legal process can be served.
>>108207225 (OP)Those who proposed this should get hanged publicly.
>>108207225 (OP)>Prime Sponsorsmm, who was it that authored the bill? what are their goals? will we be seeing social credit score verification requirements as well in the coming months?
>>108212017That and the current Texas governors are most likely investing heavily in suveillance state companies that they wan to cover as much as possible for money, these old farts dont care if they enslave their own children
>>108207225 (OP)>the future will just be an endless stream of EU toilet paper formerly known as legal complaints being sent to US companies and an endless stream of US toilet paper sent to EU companies
>>108207260anonymous are all in jail what you on about
>>108220787Maybe, if they were planning to resist or challenge such a Colorado law.If we were to imagine a compliant implementation for Linux, wouldn’t it involve systemd and/or Gnome (IBM/RH projects)? IBM/RH have been deeply involved in many of the user- or desktop-hostile changes to desktop Linux in recent years. Desktop Linux doesn’t matter to their revenue very much - it’s a drop in the bucket compared to VM/server installs of RHEL and support contracts for the same, so why would IBM hesitate to comply?
>>108220991does the proposed law differentiate between desktops and servers?
>>108221008>implying boomers know the difference between a smartphone, a laptop, a PC and a serverYou VILL age verify each VM and you VILL like it.
>>108207302it isn't about age verification, anon.that's just the vessel they use.
>>108207225 (OP)I know there is the big government conspiracy angle, but I'm still holding with certain wealthy people saw a way to create a captive market and are spending a lot of money lobbing to extract rent from just about every site on the internet through age verification.
>>108221008The bill imposes its burdens on two groups: OS “providers” and application developers. We all probably recognize that it’s the users who will *actually* get screwed and lose their privacy, but the screwing hits differently enterprise vs personal desktop. A F500 company with a big Openshift capacity will be able to complete that age attestation without giving up anything private or proprietary, or they may even be able to argue that such a system does not have “users” as contemplated by the bill, making such a system and OS exempt.
>>108217246>Cops contact ISP>ISP gives address of landlord>Landlord gives identity of tenant
I'm not going to put up with any of this shit, simple as.If that means using the shittiest OS known to mankind in the future so be it.
>>108221215Enjoy being cut off from most future services then, they will surely make everything you depend on trackable, until you give up your data.
>>108207225 (OP)Thank god i dont live in the Prison States
>>108212017>the government does a thing>SO THIS IS MICROSOFT DOING A THINGHow do you get by being so disingenuous?
>>108221526>(((services)))Oh no I won't be able to subscribe to Ligma™'s new Sudden unwanted rectal intrusion as a Service! The humanity!>they will surely make everything you depend on trackableGood luck making open source firewalls support ID age verification.
>>108221095vehicle
So long as they don't touch TCP/IP, nor force captive portals on all access points, I needn't care.
>>108222025you'll need the proper age attestation in your request or sites will lock you out. it'll be signed in such a way that you can't fake it.
>>108207225 (OP)Politicians really believe this is feasible.
>>108222048Will they block hotspot tethering too? Please, you filthy defeatist, tell me how they'll do that. While at it, explain how they'll make age verification "totally supper dupper impossible to fake bro". Ho on, don't be shy, I'm sure you have a detailed and coherent explanation, and I'd very much like to hear it.
>>108207744Good thing I have all the makings of the clandestine punk hacker who is free to do whatever the tf they want
>>108208909that is an amazing observation. i think nothing scares them more than coreboot. system76 not only contributes to foss via cosmic/pop, but they do a lot of work to make a truly free modern computer possible down to the firmware
>refuse to implement the API>$7500 fineoh fuck oh man oh god what will microsoft do???
>>108217209>bro I can't do anything unless I get the go-ahead from above
>>108223112PER DAY.. but that isn't even 3 million a year. cheap enough to ignore.
>>108223124That might kill a Linux distro though
>>108207225 (OP)The protocols of the learned elders tried to warn us
>>108221577>Implying Microsoft isnt salivating to use this law to tie age verification to the Microsoft account which you have to as per the law demands now give up for up to date windows 11 installation processesI'm sure this is just a coincidence this and MS making it harder to install OS without a MS account
>>108207225 (OP)Only Microsoft will do this, without even asking
>>108207225 (OP)>Luncuck cites his source for onceis he finally learning?
>>108227264RedHat too, because it's just the kind of thing they do
>>108207225 (OP)so what i'm hearing is that the upcoming os level identity bill in CA and in CO and TX is a good buy signal for palantir right? all the data needs to be processed right?
>>108207225 (OP)daily reminder that canonical(ubuntu) ibm,(redhat, fedora) popOS have a legal, culpable, and liable presence in CO and microsoft and amzaon will gladly implement this so every azure or AWS EC3 instance will ask for your papers
>>108207225 (OP)Why can't everybody accept they won't own their PCs anymore?
>>108208180As an employee for one there's a bit of a bare-minimum that's met for dumb laws like this. We only even call DMCA ticket offenders after they offend too much too often just to tell them to chill the fuck out before we're forced to take action.
>>108218536Slippery slope isn’t a fallacy.It’s just a judge of character vs capabilities.>Does X have the power to do Y?>If yes, do they have the character to show self restraint?Problem is there’s little self restraint In today’s world.
>>108231448>self restraintuse case?
>>108231448Recognizing a pattern is not a fallacy but that's not what a slippery slope is. The reason why slippery slope is a fallacy is because you're extrapolating based on an incomplete dataset. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about if you think slippery slope isn't a fallacy. You're either confusing the term for something else or don't understand what a fallacy is. Invalid reasoning doesn't cause the truth value of your argument to magically become false. That's the fallacy fallacy. It just makes it worthless because it has poor predictive value and is as good as just flipping a coin.
>>108223124Colorado is a big microsoft userThey’ll just put a surcharge on licenses sold there.In addition, the legislation does not say the user age feature has to be free. I think $10, per user, per day, suffices, with 20% increases per year.
Lol, they’re going to charge minors $2500 each time they lie about their age to get on to minecraft. Good luck.
>>108207225 (OP)They will do nothing but evil things to enforce this.
>>108213676>As soon as they get acess to a web browser...Then forbid them ?You're the father, if they really need a phone, get them one that can't connect, install parental control, you're the adult in chargeIf they really need to do some search for school, then watch over them
>>108207271I hope so. How can you be fined if you are not even selling anything in colorado? Linux is free. Just geoblock the shithole if needed.
>>108207225 (OP)It will take less than three days for github to have a click, Windows+R, ctrl+V, enter solution.
>>108207225 (OP)is it even possible for them to force that in linux
>>108207445ID verification online is a good thing for society
>>108207693Bad news: Newsom just signed the same law today for California.literally and factually, when the blue wave happens in 2026 this will be the Democrats next big push: Attestation IDs on all computers so they can identify the nazi chuds and minority report them before they vote or post on 4chan. All done for the kids of course.
>>108241115kys or post your face and ID right now if you believe that.ID verification online is the literal death of the internet. Government know that anyone retarded enough to do that is also retarded enough to get it stolen or be impersonated online and blamed for crimes that aren't theirs. They're hoping you're retarded enough to fall for it.
>>108241267>no linkfaggot
>>108241276i've never had to upload it
>>108241115This would be true if there was a government department of IDs and identification which held your real ID and only gave companies hashes or verification that you are who you say you are, never sharing this with the people who ask about you.But we in 'Merica believe in MUH SMALL GUBBAMINT while also demanding DA GUBBAMINT invade everyone's lives. so instead we get the half-measure of using companies like Persona who have constant data leaks to handle identification that's more important than your medical history, and proceed to leak it to a billion scammers in India.Online ID sucks because the government has decided to be hands-off about what happens on the internet. If they're hands-off about protecting you they need to shut the fuck up about forcing you to do things online. They can't have both, either people will ignore them or they claim the entirety of the internet as their own.
>>108241289Then post it right now nigger. Otherwise you agree it's not a good thing for society to force everyone to doxx themselves.
>>108241301if you want to watch porn then you should have to face the consequences
>>108241370This is gonna be a fucked up way to find out who likes em big and chunky
>>108207225 (OP)i support my fellow leftists in CO trying to achieve this. rightwingers don't want to protect children (see them killing transgender children). of course a rightist like luneduke is against this common sense bill.
>>108215456the weed connection isn't just limited to CO. WA got worse after it legalized weed too. Every state that legalized it got worse to some degree.I left WA for AZ, and years later, AZ legalized it too. AZ got worse.Trump should have made it worse for weed legalization instead of downgrading it. He should have upgraded it to capital punishment.
>>108207225 (OP)After all the fucking retarded Californians and retarded lefties from Oregon/Washington/Illinois/Minnesota left their states during the "summer of peace" 2020 this state gets even fucking shittier.I really don't want to move. I really don't but these cunts are getting insane.
>>108241588have you thought about maybe you are the problem for not wanting to chop off the nutsack off a 10 year old boy?maybe, just maybe, you are the reason why the state is becoming "worse.">pro tipits not. you are just a scumbag.
>>108207225 (OP)System76 is in Colorado btw
>>108241588I had to move away. I loved the san juan mountains and was always in them but I just couldn't put up with the shit denver pulled anymore.
>>108207225 (OP)So it'll be the ever so secure age gate that we had for years of select your birth date? Guess I'll be selecting the default 01/01/1900 or whatever the earliest date available is. Gotta be old enough for super porn after all.
>>108241115>Anonymous
>>108207225 (OP)I't's not just your computer/laptop, your phone, your tablet, your smart tv. they all qualify under this bill. They will not stop. first discord now every operating system is going to be required this. 3d printing is also being assaulted with state mandated checks for what is being printed. they want control overyour digital footprint, they want to be able to cut your acess as soon as you publicly disagree. This is just another version of the chinese social credit system they are just laying the foundations down brick by brick.I for one will find every bypass. i will not comply. i found this quote quite relevant. This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirtcheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
>>108241115To find out if it's true, there should be countries with and without said verification (All other things same except the surveillance )You would compare the two populations in each country to find out which populace is happier with life
>>108207225 (OP)What is it that makes so many people terrified of being profiled and losing their privacy online? Why are you so afraid of people knowing who you are when you say the things you say and do the things you do? Own up to it. Talk the walk.
>>108240995Yeah it is , Linus Torvalds is just some dumb boomerLook what replies he wrote in mailing lists when he kicked Russian maintainers
>>108207403it took me a long time to really understand the "won't somebody please think of the children" trope from The Simpsons, but oh boy do i understand it nowhttps://youtu.be/phSxxVJCZsc [Embed]
>>108241279>>108207693NTA buthttps://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1043/id/3269704This bill, beginning January 1, 2027, would require, among other things related to age verification with respect to software applications, an operating system provider, as defined, to provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder, as defined, to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store and to provide a developer, as defined, who has requested a signal with respect to a particular user with a digital signal via a reasonably consistent real-time application programming interface regarding whether a user is in any of several age brackets, as prescribed. The bill would require a developer to request a signal with respect to a particular user from an operating system provider or a covered application store when the application is downloaded and launched.He's right in that california has what Colorado has but much worse. It was signed back in October.So no, California has passed this exact thing but on steroids, because it's not just the online website that has to require online ID but your literal Operating System, and developers now have to check for that in their applications too.You know what's developed in California? Android, iOS, MacOS, etc. Literally every site and app is going to have your personally identifiable information by default now and there is no escaping it.
>>108243088>What is it that makes so many people terrified of being profiled and losing their privacy online?Because the government has killed people for much less than speaking out online. >Own up to it. Talk the walk.Post your ID right now, then. You won't.
>>108243088niggers will say this shit and then go "AAAIEEEE BIDEN IS FORCING PEOPLE TO GET THE JAB, THEY'RE MAKING AN ONLINE DATABASE, YOU CAN'T GET THE JOB UNLESS YOU TAKE THE JABBIE-" like fuck you nigger. Conservacucks scream and moan when the shoe is on the other foot and then never question how the shoe got on that foot. Your ID and your privacy is a human right and your right to say stupid shit without consequences from the government is only protected because it would be a legal pain for them to find out who you are.
>>108241370I hear lots of cope but I don't see no ID. What are you trying to hide? Thankfully Colorado will make it legal to find out who you are from this post and come to your house in the future.
>>108241588>Colorado isn't worse than any of those statesmaximum cope
>>108241588You could easily run a campaign right now to dethrone Newsom and kick half of the state legislature out right now just based on how they surrendered unconditionally to Trump over the Flock cameras and subsequent ICE raids into the state using data from the flock cameras.Newsom unequivocally surrendered the supposed sanctuary state he was trying to build, the one he burned all of you on the pyre to protect during the 2020 Summer of Love. Literally opened the gates and let the invaders in, and he did it twice. He's as much of a republican conservacuck as Trump is. The fact Democrats in the state aren't calling for his blood 24/7 is proof the party is rotten to the core. You could be that politician that cleans the place up, if you chose to become a politician and run on a pro-speech pro-privacy platform. I live on the other side of the country and am trying what I can, but we have our own problems, and one of those isn't blue-painted retards trying to identify everyone from their shitposts.
>>108207225 (OP)buy an ad faggot
