Everyone saying it only affects "photorealistic depictions" as if sex workers aren't worth fighting for and photorealistic being vague in court of law is driving me crazy "At least my furry porn can still exist!" It WON'T if you ignore this shit! AaaaaAAAAAA

I agree, I find the attempts to downplay what’s happening rly frustrating

Even IF it was truly only stuff that affected live action porn that's still a reason to be upset?? It's still thought policing to tell sex workers what they can or can't make. Boggles my mind that people think it's not that deep

I really don't like the wording on this. It's reading as if the porn industry is changing for the worse by sanitizing the "icky" kinks and making sure you get more "normal and safe" porn. And that's only if you give them your ID. I don't want to live in that world.

So ..any old greek gods story Will be banned for example?

And half of the Bible. Does Adam and Eve count as incest, since Eve was made from a part of him? Or is it selfcest?

yep and how and how they have grandchildren...who fuck with set XD

bold for them to ban incest porn when they're ruled by a dude who married his cousin

Also his parents were cousins.

The incest country

they dont recognize pussy eating? LMAOOO SEX IS ONLY WHEN PUSSUA AND VAGINA AND PENIS IN MOUTH

this is actually, like. the only definition of sex in english law. it's why you can only get charged with rape if you penetrate someone else. it's deeply insane.

absolutely insane, and they think they pretend they care abt victims by banning random porn kinks instead of changing definition in sane way

So the country that has a whole royal lineage of people who are related to one another to the point their family tree is a stick is gonna ban incest fetish content... Got it...

Projection fr

so what, banning game of thrones now? it simulates incest sex in its show pretty right in your face

I wouldn’t put it past them, they’ve been pretty trigger happy on the banning recently

And yet in the same full document, there’s ’intentionally concealing a child sexual offence’, but the fucking royals have gotten away with that for decades, probably centuries. Ofc let’s bash all the consensual fictional adults, but REAL CRIMES are constantly swept under the rug in this country

Also, this reads to me like any mention of a ‘parental term’ (daddy etc.) is an offence, are they going to storm all the gay shops with daddy t-shirts? Arrest someone for a funny keyring? Storm my house bc my sibling jokingly has a ‘mommy’ signed print of that lady from Resident Evil? Jfc

TBH it isn't that unlike The UK to try and find new and inventive ways to arrest Gays. This is an absolute mess, the extents of this and the applicable areas are very unclear. They're such fucklechucks

It's not even real. Just simulated. That's unreal for them to regulate on this.

So anyone who owns a copy of Game of Thrones can be arrested now?

It’s official, we’re living in the worst possible timeline

Fuuckk man what the hell

Literally none of what they say to justify a ban like this makes any sense!

I had a quick look at the legislation and it seems to indicate it's porn involving real people or "realistic images" so probably AI deepfakes etc. Hopefully this means our furry asses are safe but I still don't like where this is heading.

This Labour Government will somehow go down as the most oppressive in recent British history, and thats with FOUR tory PMs before them! Starmer has genuinely killed the Labour Party and my biggest fear is that the Tories or Reform will come in and kill what little freedoms we'll have left after them

for the love of god vote green. I'm in scotland so if independence comes up again I'm voting for it 100%.

Not to downplay how stupid and horrid this is but like...this is fucking rich coming from a government that still has a monarchy.

Omfg that didn't even occur to me until right now. Truly that whole island is such a mess.

God fucking dammit, when you think the UK can't regress any more... What's worse is, SURE, this is *only* UK law, but like with age verification...this will spread. First they come for icky kinks, then less icky, then anything kinky, then lgbt+ porn and then porn itself.

then Art and finally free expression. that's the goal, its always the goal. in the process they will destroy everything that makes thier own lives worth living, but they'll have achieved control.

miserable clown kings atop the shit-pile, because they'd rather rule in hell than be an ordinary person in heaven. not even serve, just be normal.

I'm so sorry for this :( I hope Brazil doesn't jump to adopt this too

But their royalty exists almost solely because of it.

oh boy can't wait to see DISCLAIMER: THEY'RE REFERRING TO HOW THE OTHER ACTS LIKE A PARENT AND THEY AREN'T BIOLOGICALLY RELATED

I am so fucking sick of this country...

Why did UK resist to Nazis again? As French, I'm utterly offended that this censorship madness is going W-I-L-D. At this point, what's the reasons to not let the extremes groups just go, huh? Fucking tight minded assholes >:( *SNORT* ... Be safe if you're in UK.

I've never understood the British hatred and fear of sex.

Fucking fascism is what this is. Solidarity and support from fellow “taboo” artist ❤️ I’m an American, so I don’t know if there’s anything I can do to help. but I’ll yell against this kind of criminalization until my lungs give out, always.

UK gov is a bunch of fucking losers and i firmly believe you guys should PROTEST

WHAT THE FUCK

Incest is STRICTLY the right of the Royal family ONLY, all others caught thinking about it will be asked to come to prison

Funny how defending the children for abuse goes when the royal family is involved, innit?

Until and unless the UK government experiences *dire* consequences of fucking around with peoples' rights and privacy, it will of course, not stop. I hope for that as soon as possible as it has been necessary for at least a full decade (The brexit POLL vote that helped ruin the country).

>fictional incest is banned >first cousin marriage is legal The UK is a fucking joke country that I’m entirely convinced at this point is an elaborate reality TV prank.

Well let's hope they crack down on simulated killing, too. Obviously killing someone is worse than incest, so they should have absolutely no qualms about banning any media related to simulated killing or hurting people.

The UK slowly turning into the UK from V for Vendetta.

however despicable this bill is, a few points worth making: the offense is for an image or video of real people, or a photorealistic image or video, involving penetrative sex between at least two people; so it wouldn't cover solo work or cartoons.

Give them a finger, they *will* take the whole hand. See; the entirety of human history and authoritarian overreach

Nanny State strikes yet again

They already made possession of suffocation and strangulation kink videos/photos a criminal offense and I'm sure they'll be coming for more

Classic propagandist demonization of the other This fight is not over. It’s just beginning, actually. We’ve got you, bro. This is dark moment in human history, let alone queer history, but it will pass as long as we keep fighting back

who is sitting around thinking *this* needs to be addressed

anyone desperate to distract form the fact that the entire world is run by fascistic criminal paedophiles and has been now since Rome/the Qin dynasty. They want to pretend its the fault of the queers, the artists and kinky.

This is because if you explore enough, and develop your own sense of morals and critical thought, you'll probably conclude you don't need social/political/moral or economic instruction from a class composed entirely of greedy hypocrites and monsters.

do we have links to the legislation itself? i need to read this in more detail.

Page 107: bills.parliament.uk/publications...

sorry to keep splitting conversations, but this appears to still be To Be Moved, meaning it hasnt been debated yet. am i reading that correctly?

I like how they start off saying it's to protect children from abuse, but then go on to admit that it only happens between adults. They admitted it by saying "If, for example, X is showcasing this type of pornography...". This heavily implies that it was originally OK on X, and thus no children.

Good luck enforcing this.

Now to be fair, this does currently only apply to images and videos in which a viewer may believe that the subjects are 'real'. This doesn't yet cover fiction or fantasy. ...Yet.

1984 already?

This is absolutely insane what the fuck

Not a good day for UK folks with an incest fetish.

keir starmer the queer harmer

I'm glad I'm leaving Trash Island this year. The fucking brazenness with which rights and privacy are being eroded is atrocious. It's all performative by and for the same piece of shit outdated old cursty religious LUNATICS that think they still amount to anything outside of their ill-gotten power.

this seems impossible to enforce on a mass scale. incest porn is **very** popular, it makes up the front page of most porn sites, not to mention things like fanfic & hentai. this would be unprecedented mass incarceration for every wealth class, it's absurd

They count on people being too embarrased to defend it on a mass scale. Like VISA and Mastercard. No law can really be enforced at mass scale unless you have the consent of the population. They don't need to jail everybody, just a selected few cases to strike fear in all the rest.

Have a thought for the higher court judges who will have to sit and watch, critically, analytically watch porn together to determine the intended message about the relationships of the participants.

Wonder how long before I have to eat a lead bullet or dissapear for being into oh god forbid ABDL since they can easily find some way to justify a ban

odd instance where the U.S. does a decent job is on avoiding stuff like this because of first amendment protections. i'd say come to america, but, uhhh, yeah.. i'd try getting a work visa out in scandinavia if you wanna have peace of mind

This is a remarkable level of overreach jfc

What the fuck is even going on over on Airstrip One? Not like things are going well here across the pond but jeez, incest porn? Where if you mute it you can't even tell it's kink?

I don't live in the UK so I have got to ask. Is there seriously nothing the people can do to combat any of this? Can you vote or make a petition or protest or literally anything? Does democracy just not exist over there? Can the British government just do whatever they want with no pushback?

Depends how you define combat really

I guess I'd define it as literally anything. There's millions of people and only so many of them in the government. They can't really have all the say on how it should be run, can they? It can't be a total dictatorship

If we're talking about Reform vs. Revolution, all the major parties in the UK more or less toe the line on these totalitarian policies so reforming won't work Which leaves, well...

Kay Parker is spinning in her grave.

my grownup answer is to put out feelers in your communities so you have the names of some lawyers with relevant skillsets to hand in the event they're needed. worry about finances separately, just get the names in hand for now

my real answer is pretty much the same as you, i.e. endless high pitched whine like a badly maintained electric boiler. augh. ugh. auuuugh

The UK has absolutely no balls.

This is so wrong. Will they ban books with incest too? Game of Thrones, the Bible...

I hope it get undone in the future, this is a very dangerous law to have.

"where the acts depict or are intended to depict a person (A) and a child family member (B)" from the bill proposal (bills.parliament.uk/bills/3938/s...) so like hopefully all the non-*that* stuff is fine The articles I've read completely miss that wording

oh what the fuck....the fact that putting the words incest and simulation together didn't make them realize how stupid it is to make a law about has me baffled... not that any country is doing better atm but uk sure seems to be on a roll with shitty laws

Not only is this *insane* but we should all remember that this is the policy they’re focusing on while the planet hurtles towards climate collapse. This is their priority.

Possession to be illegal.... good luck in searching every single hard drive in teh country to find who already has it. It'll give them something to do whilst ignoring Farage's links to Epstein.

I'm really sorry you have to deal with his nonsense.

But watch them keep the Bible and forget about how Adam and Eve's lineage is described as being all incest between their children and grandchildren and continue teaching that to kids...

You make it known just how much literature this would ban and that any even ATTEMPT at banning fiction is unacceptable and does nothing to protect real people. And you keep writing anyway.

I feel so upset for my friends that can't or won't leave though. There are right choices to make and there are wrong ones and the UK is fucking speedrunning ALL The stupid ones. ALL OF THEM. Arresting activists who haven't even done anything, arresting a 73 (IIRC) old lady for QUIETLY HOLDING A SIGN

Pretty sure this’ll be in the US before too long

Very good Lord Kier Cromwell. Now, to discuss next week's ban on music - would that be all music or is there an exception for church hymns? Bonkers the lot of them. Get the government out of our bedrooms

this on top of the online safety act amongst other roadblocks is really just making me feel like moving to the US to be with my partner is the better choice like?? It feels like the past few years the UK Government have gone downhill even worse then prior.

The UK is just becoming more and more unlivable. How will we survive without incest?! Jokes aside, this is bullshit and I'm gonna follow your account

Therapy is a good place to start.

That's fucking horrible 💔 why is this country so hellbent on making things awful...