Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.
@tante Here's the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word running #OpenClaw to organize his family tasks and comms: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assistant
Don't worry, I'm sure no malicious actors will ever target his setup to compromise #Microsoft network. I mean, they'll only have access to all info and location of his loved ones. Surely there's zero monetary value in that...
@tante OMFG. He has now connected #OpenClaw to his smart home AND published a full playbook of his setup:
https://lobster.shahine.com/
A senior leader at Microsoft basically gave the keys to his front door to autonomous GenAI agents.
@jukkan professionals
@jukkan Tim Apple will join the gang one day. It is bound to happen.
@jukkan @tante @david_chisnall
To be fair, how much more damage could a malicious actor do to Microsoft compared to their current management?
@patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante
there is stupidity, and there is clinical levels of stupidity. The AI bubble actively selects for the latter
@patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante You mean: Daddy/Mommy issues are the driver of this AI bubble?
If they had had someone in their childhood telling them they did a good job we could have saved the world from climate change and wild capitalism?
@patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante I mean - I’d want one too. I would also like to have a wand from any magic world you can imagine so magic could do my dishes. Getting either of those before the end of this decade is … unrealistic.
@hiiaminfi @jukkan @tante "aren't you worried about privacy? no, since i pay for the service" oh sweet sweet summer child
@jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi @tante "Physical security matters. The Mac is in my office, which is in my house. If someone steals it, I have bigger problems."
2 weeks later: "Behold! I have connected #OpenClaw with the smart home system that can open the door to my house!!!"
https://www.omarknows.ai/p/lobster-gets-a-playbook-and-a-superpower
@jukkan @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @tante this also boggles my mind. I own Smart home stuff. I get the Appeal. I really do. But Smart Locks creep me out.
@jukkan @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi @tante
Not exactly security-related, but I can't help wondering... why don't these family members just *talk* to each other about their movie plans or travel memories? Why doesn't this guy just pop upstairs and peek into his kid's room to see if he's asleep, like a normal person? (Tangentially, why does a Microsoft VP use an exclusively Apple-based setup for his personal computing?) This seems to me like an overly technologically fetishized way to conduct one's private life. But then I'm not a tech VP, what would I know
@ssilvonen @jukkan @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi Because dudes in tech rather talk to a chatbot than their family or a therapist.
@tante @jukkan @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi
Yes, this case certainly makes that painfully obvious.
@ssilvonen @tante @jukkan @jkmcnk @hiiaminfi in fairness, as a father of a stroppy teenager myself, i admit that i do often end up just communicating with him upstairs via whatsapp. however...it's still me doing it. what this agentic thing does is to make "speak with the actual person to check/coordinate things" into a step for the machine to do, as part of a larger process. i can understand why, but it doesn't make it any less dehumanising and odd...
@patrick_h_lauke @tante @jukkan @jkmcnk @hiiaminfi Well yeah, any way you can get your teenager to communicate counts as a plus! What strikes me as mechanized here is using "Lobster" to relay messages between family members when they could just as easily chat directly with each other. The use of an agentic AI assistant to organize your calendar and travel plans etc. seems to me a more natural and helpful use case (security issues aside), where the "communication" is just between one person and the AI.
@patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante come on at least he has multiple agents to isolate environments or something. That’s almost professional.
(I am kidding of course)
I think the most diplomatic take I can get behind is: „If you are reading a tutorial about how to set OpenClaw up: This is out of your league, keep your hands off.“
@hiiaminfi @patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante It's gross to want one.