[–] ▶ №2897648[Quote]>>2897715
>>2897633 (OP)Yeah it is possible
▶ №2897689[Quote]>>2897702>>2897715
>your telling me through complete random chance a bug like this was able to develop such complex defense measures against predators?
yeah
▶ №2897702[Quote]>>2897706>>2897715>>2897721>>2897723
>>2897689and you would be retarded to believe so, this is like saying if i fill a bucket full of random colors of paint and chuck it at a canvas if i do it over and over again il eventually end up with a mona lisa
▶ №2897706[Quote]>>2897711>>2897715
>>2897702If you have infinite time… Yeah.
▶ №2897711[Quote]>>2897715>>2897722
>>2897706The earth has existed for billions of years and this caterpillar has probably existed for only a few million
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>>2897711Yeah, now imagine trillions of generations of caterpillar across the billions of years this world has been around for, and natural selection isn't a completely randomized process either way, it selects specific traits over time.
▶ №2897723[Quote]>>2897729>>2897731
>>2897702yeah except you keep getting closer and closer to the mona lisa because your painting looking like the mona lisa a profitable trait
▶ №2897729[Quote]>>2897733>>2897739
>>2897723But then there needs to exists a higher being that decides wwhether or not the paint looks closer to mona lisa and when to stop
▶ №2897733[Quote]>>2897743>>2897756
>>2897729that's natural selection
▶ №2897737[Quote]>>2897748
>>2897731>>2897721Where you get these episodes
Marge Bart Lisa Homer
▶ №2897742[Quote]
The human mind struggles to grasp large periods of time.
▶ №2897743[Quote]>>2897747>>2897751
>>2897733natural selection doesn't work like that retard
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>>2897734God makes things needlessly complicated because he is a Redditoid
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>>2897743The spic is right, that's how it works
▶ №2897751[Quote]>>2897761>>2897764
>>2897743You look enough like the Mona Lisa when it gets you laid and makes you lots of babies that also get laid. That's it, it's that simple.
▶ №2897756[Quote]>>2897771>>2897772>>2897791
>>2897733That doesn't explain why certain traits start to appear out of nowhere, When does it start? Why does it occur even when not needed?
▶ №2897761[Quote]>>2897772>>2897791
>>2897751natural selection does the most bare bones minimum
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it's just an algorithm kek creationistcvcks are retarded but redditNEGROS who believe there wasn't any divine intervention are also retarded
▶ №2897772[Quote]>>2897775
>Objective is to create meaningful art>Throw paint bucket at canvas>Nothing>Do it again>Nothing>Do it one billion times>Mona LisaSimple
>>2897756Mutation and entropy, natural selection multiplies the good mutations, keep the ones that don't do anything, and culls the ones that hurt survivability
>>2897761Yeah, so?
▶ №2897775[Quote]>>2897777>>2897785>>2897791
>>2897772Evendoe all it really cares about is replication on the genome.
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>>2897775Yes, I know, I'm saying as a by-product that can be noticed through generations.
▶ №2897788[Quote]>>2897796>>2897808>>2897812
>>2897771For example the lack of tail in humans, Why would it disappear if the lack of it wouldn't help us survive (as we said earlier evolution occurs through naturl selection)?
Another example is the snake catterpillar, Why does it mimic snakes? Why would it start mimicing snakes?
▶ №2897791[Quote]>>2897806
>>2897756Because DNA replication is imperfect and fucks up, creating mutations. Sometimes those mutations kill you, sometimes they don't really do shit, and every once in a while they make you have babies better. Natural selection is just the process of the helpful ones becoming more common in the population because they help the organism survive long enough to reproduce.
>>2897761Yeah, nobody said it's a perfect Mona Lisa, it just looks enough like the Mona Lisa that the predator with a taste in fine art decides not to eat you.
>>2897775This is indeed an important distinction to make to understand the process, but in the vast majority of cases survivability and genome replication go hand in hand
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>>2897788Snakes are dangerous predators, caterpillars are tasty gooballs. Guess which one the bird is less likely to try and eat.
And humans are apes, which lost their tails ages ago
▶ №2897808[Quote]
>>2897788We lost tails as we moved closer to the ground to hunt n shieeet, tails were needlessly cumbersome for ground hunting so those with smaller trials lived, the caterpillar didn't choose to become like this, it was born with traits that slowly made it look like a snake, and allowed it to survive and reproduce.
▶ №2897809[Quote]>>2897819
>>2897806Look I appreciate the dedication but this isn't helping geg
▶ №2897812[Quote]>>2897814>>2897826
>>2897788Lack of tail is because we walk upright and a tail doesn't help with that. The caterpillar could've just kinda looked like a caterpillar at first, let's say scaring off 1% of predators but that got built upon generation after generation.
▶ №2897813[Quote]>>2897876
atheist mfs when instead of talking about natural selection and randomness we start talking about human consciousness and the fact there isn't any reason for life to start forming out of nowhere
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>>2897812Looked like a snake*
▶ №2897820[Quote]>>2897831>>2897839
>there isn't any reason for life to start forming out of nowhere
That one's easy. If life didn't form we wouldn't be around to ask the question.
▶ №2897826[Quote]>>2897834>>2897876
>>2897812>because we walk upright and a tail doesn't help with thatWe still have an appendix, yet it is useless
Also Just becouse it is useless doesn't mean it should be gone
▶ №2897828[Quote]>>2897837
>>2897823This isn't example of a situation of natural selection without someone overseeing it you fucking retard. If anything this proves directly against your point
▶ №2897831[Quote]>>2897912
>>2897820This doesn't even debunk anything?
it's like saying
>There is no reason for this wall painted green<Well if this wall wasn't green then you wouldn't be saying this ▶ №2897834[Quote]>>2897844
>>2897826Tail was an active detriment because we needed to balance ourselves, being usless evolution won't get rid of something.
▶ №2897837[Quote]>>2897847>>2897859>>2897876
>>2897828The final goal is already set doe?
Are you retarded?
In the simulation there is already a goal set
▶ №2897839[Quote]>>2897912
>>2897820Nigga what? I don't agree that god is the only explanation for life to exist but this reasoning is retarded. Your observation of an event occurring is not in of itself an explanation for said event.
▶ №2897844[Quote]
>>2897834Yes, So then why do we not have tails?
you yourself said:
>being usless evolution won't get rid of something.So why do we not have tails?
They were usefull (helped us balance)
And they didn't pose a threat to our survival
▶ №2897847[Quote]>>2897855>>2897859
>>2897837Are you FUCKING RETARDED? The moment god created everything as told in the tales of genesis everything was already put in place. Why are you even being a contrarian nigger? I'm in defense of your point(which you don't properly do yourself)
▶ №2897856[Quote]>>2897912
>>there isn't any reason for life to start forming out of nowhere
>That one's easy. If life didn't form we wouldn't be around to ask the question.
that's why god has to exist, you cannot genuinely believe a cell appeared out of nowhere and evolved to the point where we're at
▶ №2897876[Quote]>>2897908
>>2897813While there isn't a really good answer to the why, from what we've found the building blocks of life seem to form very readily in the universe; chances are that anywhere the conditions are just right, life will start popping up.
>>2897826Strictly speaking the appendix isn't actually useless in humans; it no longer serves its original function but it does serve to shelter healthy parts of the human gut microbiome during bouts of illness. IIRC people without an appendix are more strongly affected by stomach bugs.
>>2897837Think about it like this. There's a predator that eats anything that doesn't look like the Mona Lisa. Some of them have shitty eyesight though, so when everything else is eaten only the ones that look enough like the Mona Lisa to not get eaten survive and make more babies. Of those, the ones that end up looking even more like the Mona Lisa start fooling the ones that can see better, and even more of them survive and reproduce. Eventually it gets to the point that every single one looks almost exactly like the Mona Lisa because now the predators can't tell the difference.
Also regarding the tail, we still have some of the structure for it, but strictly speaking any body part that's not actively helpful to your survival is a waste of resources that could go to something else, so over time there is a pressure to trim more expensive stuff like that down
▶ №2897890[Quote]>>2897904>>2897915
>>>2897813 (You)
>While there isn't a really good answer to the why, from what we've found the building blocks of life seem to form very readily in the universe; chances are that anywhere the conditions are just right, life will start popping up.
no way you truly believe life appeared out of fucking nowhere just because there was water and sunlight
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I believe there's a god but this is kind of stupid, it exists because it was fit to not the other way around
▶ №2897904[Quote]>>2897907
>>2897890Everyone believes this
▶ №2897912[Quote]>>2897925
>>2897831>>2897839>>2897856We can't be in the universe life doesn't exist because it's a prerequisite to us even considering it. We aren't just sitting in a long talking about it if life didn't exist.
▶ №2897915[Quote]
>>2897886Because if you look at the rest of the universe you see unbelievable amounts of situations where that shit DIDN'T happen. The odds start seeming more reasonable when you take that into account.
>>2897890More so that the basic chemical building blocks for life are actually shockingly common as a result of inorganic processes. While I'm not going to claim we have an answer as to when and how they came together to make life, because right now we don't, we understand basically everything right before and after that point well enough that we're pretty sure we're on the right track.
▶ №2897918[Quote]>>2897926
>>2897886Holy shit man christcucks just can't understand mathematically big numbers huh? Do you know how many stars and planets there are? Yes it's rare for the pristine perfect conditions to support life that this planet has, but rarity pales to the sheer scale of the universe
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>>2897907Bait because you're too retarded to understand mi
▶ №2897926[Quote]>>2897936
>>2897918Out of all the trillions of solar systems only one has earth and only one planet has life because it was all arranged for us to conquer everything obviously
▶ №2897928[Quote]>>2897933>>2897938>>2897940>>2897947>>2897949
also if got dosent exist then whats stopping me from raping my cute neighbor, if i can steal and get away with it, why shouldnt i, because its the wrong thing to do? says who? if i think its cool and you think its bad, who is objectively in the right?
>>2897894kys giga
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>>>2897928
*god
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>>2897926You proved Darwin wrong by staying a macaco, we don't know the entire universe yet so there very much can be life somewhere else.
▶ №2897937[Quote]>>2897944
A universe with nothing to experience it basically doesn't exist anyway it needs something to experience it for shit like time to even matter.
▶ №2897938[Quote]>>2897963
>>2897928nothings stopping you but its morally wrong because you wouldn't like to be stolen from or raped
▶ №2897944[Quote]>>2897955
>>2897937I thought you were being smart for a second
▶ №2897945[Quote]>>2897957
>>>2897907 (You)
>Bait because you're too retarded to understand mi
he literally claimed every1 is a fucking atheistard
▶ №2897947[Quote]>>2897954
>>2897928That's what philosophers spend their lives arguing about. You ask me, if you need the threat of eternal torture dangled over your head to not just rape and kill everything around you, that speaks to a deep personal problem more than anything else.
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>>2897928You can do it, but if her father blows your brains out it's on you bud.
▶ №2897951[Quote]>>2897958
>>>2897928
>if you believe in god you secretly want to rape me so you need the threat of hellfire so you don't do that
▶ №2897954[Quote]
>>2897947You missed his whole point kek you're so fucking retarded keeeekkk
▶ №2897955[Quote]>>2897960>>2897969>>2897981
>>2897944You have to get philosophical for this point you can't science your way through. It's hard to explain to someone not cooperative.
▶ №2897957[Quote]>>2897964>>2897984
>>2897945It was hyperbole moron, only Latinx and Africans are christian, most Europoors and some Amerisharts are atheist
▶ №2897958[Quote]>>2897966
>>2897951Alunyafag, you know I like you, but this is a retarded take even by your standards
▶ №2897963[Quote]>>2897971>>2897980
>>2897938what if i enjoy being raped, does that make it ok to do it to others? and why does you not likeing something make it morally wrong…? if god does not exist isint everything subjective.
▶ №2897966[Quote]>>2897995
>>2897958>you're spanish as well so you must be the same specific spaniard who spams alunyakys nigger
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>>2897955Humouring faith is a quick way to lose an argument
▶ №2897971[Quote]>>2897972
>>2897963NAP talks about this
▶ №2897972[Quote]>>2897974
>>2897971who tf is nap nigga
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>>2897972Uneducated moron. Read mises
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>>2897963you're right, I meant you wouldn't like being harmed mentally or physically which is what you're doing to your neighbor.
▶ №2897981[Quote]>>2897999
>>2897955Nigger the anthropic principle is the most retarded explanation for the realities existence ever, your philosophy is shit.
I'm a christian but there are 10x better ways to explain reality via atheism, like by saying that things don't always need a cause, which is logically coherent at least. "Thing exists because i see it", on the other hand, is nonsense.
▶ №2897984[Quote]>>2897987>>2898005
>>2897957>it was hyperboleanother reason not to take you seriously kys absolute piece of human waste who deserves to be thrown to the worst shithole on this cursed planed since yo mama decided to poop u after she got raped by negroes
▶ №2897993[Quote]
>CHAAAAAAANCEEEEE
>THIS IS ALL PURE CHANCEEEE
>DON'T READ ANY FURTHER INTO IT IT'S ALL CHAAAANCEEE ALL A BIG COINCIDENCE!
▶ №2897995[Quote]>>2898000>>2898004>>2898006>>2898017
>>2897966Jeez, I just saw they were around earlier and that just seemed like low-effort bait, my apologies.
Anyway, regarding the rape thing, that kind of shit objectively harms others, and from an evolutionary standpoint it's kind of retarded from several angles to make your brethren suffer for no good reason
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>>2897981I think it's perfectly fine, you have to exist and for you to exist life has to by proxy.
▶ №2898000[Quote]>>2898007>>2898011
>>2897995From an evolutionary standpoint rape is absolute success retard
NAP discusses this anyhow
▶ №2898004[Quote]>>2898011
>>2897995from an evolutionary standpoint rape is the morally correct thing to do, if only important part of life is spreading your genes you should rape as many women as possible, explain to me why this is wrong
▶ №2898005[Quote]>>2898018>>2898030
>>2897964>Knows I'm right>Resorts to name callingRoom temperature IQ
>>2897984It's not like the future of my life depends on this thread nigger, I won't be dead serious all the time, especially with the stupid shit you niggers say.
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>>2897995Sure but that doesn't mean that a metaphysical moral standard is conjured into being. All that proves is that rape makes it so that there is less of your species.
▶ №2898007[Quote]>>2898013
>>2898000Not when you're a social species and the victim's relatives beat you to death for doing it
▶ №2898011[Quote]>>2898020>>2898024
>>2898000>>2898004The foid can just leave the child to die you fucking moron
▶ №2898013[Quote]>>2898074
>>2898007>doesn't show basis for objective morality how do you manage to deviate this fucking much from his point KEEEK
According to your rationale, there is no such thing as a "superior culture" only different social norms and such(which is obviously false)
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>>2897995>regarding the rape thing, that kind of shit objectively harms othersthat's why you can't claim religious people need religion to avoid that lmao
▶ №2898020[Quote]>>2898032
>>2898011and how many will do that? if i rape 1000 girls all of them are leaving the child to die? you understand this is how caveman did things before law and order?
▶ №2898024[Quote]>>2898050
>>2898011From an evolutionary standpoint that is an absolute catastrophe and there are many barriers put into place so the foid doesn't even think of doing such a thing, the only reason we do as such nowadays is because of mass media brainwashing them
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I don't see why a more naturalistic belief in the world is incompatible with Christianity.
▶ №2898030[Quote]>>2898034>>2898064
>>2898005"you niggers" said the fucking BRAPzilian who eats da bugs under xis pillow as breakfast and BBC (Big Bereber Cock) as dinner while avoiding a third food to stay hungry as the fucking monkey you are so you continue looking for bugs in the fucking zoo you're traped in
▶ №2898032[Quote]>>2898041>>2898069
>>2898018You would die
>>2898020Good luck actually doing that, you aren't the only man around, that doesn't prove atheists support rape ou algo just that you're retarded and can't understand how impregnating 1000 foids is simply impossible.
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>>2898035>dude is from turkeyGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>2898035Dats not evolution doe that's artificial selection.
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>>2898035This doesn't disprove the theory that God exists and that God intervenes in some way or another in evolution
▶ №2898050[Quote]>>2898083
>>2898024No, foids killing their children is not a new thing, it's done in other species it's been done in ours as well, besides it doesn't even need to be the foid, all it takes is another man to hook up with the food, realize the kid is not theirs and just kill the kid.
▶ №2898056[Quote]>>2898076
life exists because god created it it isn't that hard to understand unless you're so arrogant you just can't admit god objectively exists
▶ №2898057[Quote]>>2898059
*foid
Heccin auto correct
▶ №2898064[Quote]>>2898077
>>2898030>Doesn't even know how to quote>Blabbers about BBCIt's based and christpilled
▶ №2898068[Quote]
>Trying to win an argument that by principle can't be done so with facts.
Yup, Issa /pol/ classic.
▶ №2898069[Quote]>>2898079>>2898130
>>2898032my point is that if reproduction is the most important thing, than raping as many women as possible is morally ok, the average man has 1 kid in his lifetime, if he even has kids at all. rape will almost gurantee the survival of your bloodline
▶ №2898074[Quote]>>2898087>>2898139
>>2898013Nigger what are you on about, I'm not saying there IS objective morality. Lots of animals rape the shit out of each other, but you stop seeing that as much in social species because there start to be consequences. Society has come to the general agreement that rape is bad because ideas and beliefs are arguably subject to their own form of natural selection. Generally speaking, if you had a tribe that consisted of nothing but violent rapists, almost nobody would want to join you willingly and you'd have to expand by conquest alone. Meanwhile, the friendlier tribe grows naturally and then beats the entire rape tribe to death with rocks for trying to rape the chief's daughter. Therefore, nice tribe lives and rape tribe dies, and the associated ideas follow suit.
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>>2898056You aren't there to experience life not existing doe.
▶ №2898077[Quote]>>2898090
>>2898064"doesn't even know how to quote"
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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>>2898035tvrkaryan saying this is a classic
▶ №2898079[Quote]>>2898098
>>2898069Not in any normal society, we humans are social creatures that (are meant to) kill any parasites, this includes rapists.
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>>2898050You haven't disproven my argument. Mothers killing their own children can happen obviously, in the wild its done as a hail mary but its not common and if they do unless they're sociopathic genetic defects they feel sad about it (your body telling you that you fucked up)
▶ №2898088[Quote]>>2898148
I'm Christian btw I'm just playing devils advocate.
▶ №2898090[Quote]>>2898102
>>2898077No arrow so you farded
▶ №2898093[Quote]>>2898107>>2898110
ITT we call each other negroes and niggers because we don't know how to debate as normal human beings
▶ №2898097[Quote]>>2898104
All humans (besides psychopaths or other disorders) believe in the supernatural to some extent,
▶ №2898098[Quote]>>2898110
>>2898079what is a "normal" society?
▶ №2898102[Quote]
>>2898090>>2898090>>2898090>>2898090>>2898090"No arrow"
shhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiittttttt
▶ №2898110[Quote]>>2898116>>2898164>>2898183
>>2898093My guy I called you a nigger once and I refer to everyone as niggers, how the fuck are you leaking so hard
>>2898098Any society that lives the test of time, society's that allow rape, notoriously, have not.
▶ №2898114[Quote]>>2898124>>2898128>>2898132>>2898140
did this thread bait you
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>>2898116We need to seal this
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>>2898114What counts as "baited" I find this fun.
▶ №2898128[Quote]
>>2898114Technically I bit the bait but I had fun arguing with christpilled latinx's
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>>2898069The only reason the victims of cuckoo birds don't always just murder the cuckoo egg is because the cuckoo bird usually hangs around for a while and kills the other children if the victims get rid of it. Unless you're going to stick around with your rape baby into adulthood, it's not unreasonable to expect the mother to kill the rape baby
▶ №2898139[Quote]>>2898141>>2898162>>2898172>>2898175
>>2898074Morals or ethics are a concept exclusive to humans, unless if you have a basis of what is wrong and what is right you cannot objectively call a culture inferior or superior based on its norms and any attempt to do so will be based on feelings alone. You are essentially saying that if some group(be it cultural, ideological or national) has more numbers, IT HAS TO BE superior(which is non-sensical)
The NAP resolves this dilemma though
▶ №2898140[Quote]
>>2898114Yeah I wouldn't say I've been baited, the discussion is enjoyable
▶ №2898141[Quote]
>>2898139Also time preferences yeah uh huh
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>>2898088No wonder you're so fucking retarded. It's almost like you're trying to sabotage the other side. You're just as retarded normally though so I'm sure they'll let it slide
▶ №2898162[Quote]>>2898166>>2898171
>>2898139It only exists for humans because of our human bias. Other animals (orcas, elephants) express behaviors like grieving and mourning.
▶ №2898164[Quote]>>2898194
>>2898110Arbitrary lines drawn in the sand that are inconsistent btw
▶ №2898166[Quote]>>2898175>>2898207
>>2898162No no, I'm quite certain it's exclusive to humans. Do you see orcas homesteading for example?
▶ №2898171[Quote]>>2898176>>2898207
>>2898162some animals have feeling, but not morals
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>>2898139Retarded once again, survival is not defined by numbers only but also quality, why does it matter if you have 1000 jeets if they all die to like a snowstorm, when you could have 10 Aryans who would easily survive and prosper in that scenario?
▶ №2898175[Quote]>>2898179>>2898197
>>2898139Nigger, what do you not get about "cultures and ideas are also subject to selection"? Generally speaking the more common ideologies are more common for good reason. People typically don't like to be raped so of fucking course they're going to follow the culture that says rape is bad.
>>2898166>homesteadingWhat the actual fuck does that have to do with morality?
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>>2898171what about jews, they are animals but have morals to a certain degree
▶ №2898179[Quote]
>>2898175kys nigger you're just typing shit
▶ №2898183[Quote]>>2898188>>2898201
>>2898110there are plenty of tribes in africa that love rape and have existed for thousands of years, are those cool as well?
▶ №2898194[Quote]>>2898205
>>2898164Natural selection isn't arbitrary you fucking moron, it's just difficult to quantify what counts as "fit", that doesn't mean there aren't fit and unfit, you can *clearly* reason that a shark does better in the sea then an elephant.
▶ №2898197[Quote]>>2898213
>>2898175Aztecs believe that human heart sacrifice was awesome, and they ruled for a few centuries until objectively superior christian morals came along
>Generally speaking the more common ideologies are more common for good reason.So you'd be in tenochitlan or whatever it's called about to put a human heart on the altar?
▶ №2898201[Quote]>>2898243
>>2898183If they survive? Sure, but it think anyone can realize that, under any other civilizational thread, like say Europoors invade, they are fucked.
▶ №2898205[Quote]>>2898241
>>2898194>Any society that lives the test of time, society's that allow rape, notoriously, have not.This is completely arbitrary. If you were to put any number here to stand as time you'd be drawing lines in the sand
▶ №2898207[Quote]>>2898214
>>2898166>>2898171If they're just dumb animals they would just defile the body or leave it if they have a drive to not consume each other. I think morals are necessary for higher intelligence social animals to function, it's why we have them for example, for tribal cohesion.
▶ №2898213[Quote]>>2898273
>>2898197>ideology that was more numerous and allowed for better societal development displaced and overtook one that didn'tNigger you literally just gave an example of my point GEG
▶ №2898214[Quote]>>2898228>>2898232
>>2898207I see many chimpanzees rummaging around in packs hunting other animals, do you think they have a sense for morality or ethics?
▶ №2898228[Quote]>>2898248
>>2898214Chimpanzees are also known for ripping the face and nuts off of abusive/ineffective troop leaders, make of that what you will
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>>2898214To some extent probably. Not on the same level as us but they have some form of morals.
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i read through the entire thread and dont understand anything so science bad
▶ №2898241[Quote]>>2898278
>>2898205Ok, here's a simpler definition for your monkey brain, a society to be "normal"/fit needs to maintain a stable population in a given area, time is an optional variant that narrows it down further, the longer something has been around the better it is.
▶ №2898243[Quote]>>2898262>>2898269
>>2898201what a strange position, so because america is the strongest, were also the most morally correct? we just invaded venezula and stole all their oil, is that moral? we give missiles to israel so they can blow up little brown babies in the desert, is that moral? i dont think you understand what your saying. might makes right is the rule of the universe, but certainly does not make a country more "moral" than the weaker one.
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>>2898228That would be an example of a moral, the fact they go out of their way to punish someone is an example of their view of justice.
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>its fucking impossible
>because I said so
wow
▶ №2898262[Quote]>>2898274
>>2898243To be fair there's no guarantee America is going to keep that power at this rate. Compared to other nations we're basically a toddler.
>>2898248Yeah that was the point I was making lol
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>>2898243Morality is subjective, you're projecting your universalism into me Saar, but no, to venezuelans you are evil whitey, to americans they are evil brownoids, all natural selection does is choose which one survives
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>>2898213I gave you an example of complete conquest and genocide of an inferior culture in which an objectively morally and ethically superior culture won over them. Although things do undeniably have a tendency to get better over time, higher numbers of people being a a part of something doesn't mean something is correct or superior to another (which you claimed is a sign that said thing is)
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>>2898262Sorry then I thought it was "look how stupid and barbaric they are there no way there moral creatures".
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>>2898278>It's not quantifiable so it doesn't existReddit logic unironically, I'm sorry your brain cannot understand things you can't see.
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>>2898294Janny strike inbound, clear the thread immediately.
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>>2898273Look, how much detail do you want me to put into a post on shartypol trying to explain the nuances of ideology development and refinement? I was simplifying for the purpose of discussion. Regardless, I'm fairly certain you've grasped the point that I was actually trying to get at, which is that generally speaking the better ideology/culture tends to win out. All Christianity did was be the more refined ideology
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Jannies please don't nuke the whole thread over the porn this convo is fun
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>>2898294 i want to BREED BREED BREED FEMJANNY!!!! I want to SHOVE HER DOWN in an IMMINENT MATING PRESS POSITION and start to *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* until i COOOM inside her EXTRA FERTILE WOMB!! SEX SEX SEX SEX!!!! I will FUCK her PERROSTYLE and MATING PRESSING her all NIGHT and all DAY until the damn bed BREAKS from our ANIMALISTIC COUPLING and everyone in a three KILOMETER radios knows the sound of OUR HIPS SMACKING AGAINST EACH OTHER!!!!!! DEPRAVED, DECADENT, ORGASMIC, TOE CURLING, MIND MELTING SEX with FEMJANNY and making her BEAR A DOZEN OF MY CHILDREN by the end of THE YEAR!!!! Holding HANDS with FEMJANNY, LOOKING into her BEAUTIFUL blak EYES and whispering to her that she's the LOVE of my LIFE before having a LONG, LOVEY DOVEY MAKE OUT and HIP GRINDING SESSION until we collapse from EXHAUSTION and fall asleep in each others ARMS!!!!!!!
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>>2898312The brapzilian is so retarded it makes me amused
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>>2898300Let me give you an example of something in contradiction with your theory then; an originally christian europe turned its ruling class atheistic and jewish(with most of fighting age men also being atheists) and are now being conquered by muslims
This also goes against nietszche theory as well
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>>2898320While I agree the irony of this statement is hilarious
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>>2898322Religion and culture are intertwined and with religion being less important in modern society elites aren't pressured to match the same religion.
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>>2898322There's no guarantee that what you're describing goes anywhere. Besides, Christian morals are already so deeply embedded in society that they're arguably permanent. For lack of a better description, Christianity successfully fucked and made babies
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All I know is that Nietzsche was very confident about stupid ideas
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nobaldi cares vro
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>>2898338Subverting and parasitism are normal, superiority isn't real anyways.
▶ №2898348[Quote]>>2898368
>>2898340God is Dead is a good metaphor for men disavowing theism doe
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>>2898338The religion is only half the puzzle tho you also have to account the culture as each will adapt for the other.
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>>2898348And our current state of affairs is a direct debunkal of his whole thesis
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>>2898368I am only excepting a piece of mind unlinked to the ordeal doe
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>>2898368Mr Brazilian I'm too much of a SLF to read the thread are you saying that Christianity failing is a counterpoint to its validity
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Up cuz interesting o algo
