Discussion of Discord Alternatives - We're stuck here.

There will probably never be a "good" Discord alternative, because if there was then that application would get shit on for a lot of the same reasons Troonscord does.
There's two things that many of Discord's problems can boil down to:
1. Access to kids.
If the next Discord app takes off, it would have to be 18+. It's not foolproof, but keeping this shit away from kids should be a priority as it'll help mitigate a lot of the grooming problems a platform like Discord and other social websites have, but that’s never gonna happen of course because unless it's catered towards porn use (the most (((profitable adult market))) around) severing off a group of people from using it isn't the most profitable business move to take.
2. Rampant degeneracy and sharing illegal material with other pedoes and zoosadists.
Apps like Telegram or Matrix prides itself on privacy, and with that unfortunately attracts a lot of deplorables wanting to share CSEM and shit. There's no real way of solving this, not without it becoming full-on spyware for your messages and the material you send. I'm aware Discord has some CSEM scans in effect whenever you send it to other users, but it's clearly not enough given what goes on between others in DMs.

Fact of the matter is online discussion publicly for use between teenagers and adults is a mistake and it should all be shut down entirely, this is why Roblox is currently facing a grooming problem itself and why that shit needs to get shuttered all together.
Where there's spaces for kids, there's opportunities for pedoes to groom and congregate.
 
Hellwalker said:
Is using Discord but modifying it with Vencord or BetterDiscord not good enough?
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Late but Vencord and other client mods only improve the client (or at least attempt since it's already a hot mess) but it doesn't solve the fact that Discord's userbase is fucking terrible. I've met some nice people on there that I still keep in touch with on other platforms but they're really rare IMO.

These days I typically use Steam chats, Slack and IRC. Even if IRC is old as fuck the good thing is that it gatekeeps retarded doomscrollers from using it most of the time. You can definitely find some for sure, but trying to look for active IRC servers and channels is too hard for them.
 
Maxwell Carter said:
Late but Vencord and other client mods only improve the client (or at least attempt since it's already a hot mess) but it doesn't solve the fact that Discord's userbase is fucking terrible. I've met some nice people on there that I still keep in touch with on other platforms but they're really rare IMO.
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I probably should've known that saying that would've gotten some slack since I'm betting most people here have a low tolerance of Discord's bullshit but I think that it is usuable if you just do not engage with the userbase that surrounds the program like not joining servers and use client mods such as Vencord to stop tracking/telemetry or add extra features. If you treat it as a regular chatting program for use with friends only then it's a decent enough experience.
Maxwell Carter said:
These days I typically use Steam chats, Slack and IRC. Even if IRC is old as fuck the good thing is that it gatekeeps retarded doomscrollers from using it most of the time. You can definitely find some for sure, but trying to look for active IRC servers and channels is too hard for them.
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I would probably use alternative shit like that if I wasn't already convinced that my friends would flat out refuse to give any of them a shot. They're definitely not as autistic about technology as I am. That's why I'm pretty much stuck with it.
Imagine a world without Discord....a man can dream...
 
Somebody should just make an old skype clone with different branding, market it to normal people, and i would use it. All the other alternatives are too faggy lacking features and no normalGODs use them
 
Colon capital V said:
Where there's spaces for kids, there's opportunities for pedoes to groom and congregate.
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Correct, this is the conundrum that has been reoccurring over and over since the mid 1990s when the internet started taking off and I bet you could trace it all the way back to Usenet and BBS of the late 1980s. Discord gets a lot of flak for the groomer problem but this is actually a sign of success in an ironic way, it means there is attention to the issue and arrests happening. Back in the 1990s and 2000s with AIM, MSN or ICQ there was no logging of conversations aside from locally on the individual computer so a lot of this conduct happened in the dark.
 
Telling someone "go download this so we can chat" sounds as shady as it initially sounded when someone told me to get Discord. The first real "go get this, bro" program in decades.

Sad reality is that Discord serves a purpose of more importance than its brand itself. They fuck up over and over yet the need for a Discord is just too great.
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Telling someone "go download this so we can chat" sounds as shady as it initially sounded when someone told me to get Discord. The first real "go get this, bro" program in decades.

Sad reality is that Discord serves a purpose of more importance than its brand itself. They fuck up over and over yet the need for a Discord is just too great.
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Yeah I hate how lot of open source software and related groups have Discords now to ask questions and report bugs instead of having an open forum
 
Car Won't Crank said:
Yeah I hate how lot of open source software and related groups have Discords now to ask questions and report bugs instead of having an open forum
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I refuse to use any open source project that uses Discord for it's documentation or any functions related to development. It's an immediate red flag and means it's run by incompetent people 99% of the time.

The best part about Briscord is that none of the questions people have will be indexed by a search engine, meaning it's entirely opaque and you'll have to spend 20 minutes searching for the answer rather than the 3 minutes it usually takes.

It's never been cheaper and easier to host your own services. Yet we are moving farther away from this because its just so HECKIN CONVENIENT to goon in a discord chat or whatever people do.

Related to the thread, here's a very helpful setup guide I found for hosting your own XMPP server: https://liberatedsystems.co.uk/blog/xmpp-setup-tutorial/ (Archive)
 
Does anyone here actually use revolt/stoat, matrix elements, gajim, conversejs or any other platform on a daily basis? With a real use cases? How was the install? Does it function just like discord? What are the benefits? Is it easy to onboard users? Your use case.. etc

Also person who mentioned skype earlier skype was awful, I would rather use a 2002 install of MSN messenger on Windows ME than use that trash. Awful.
 
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