Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[Trollblade69]

It's almost like when you don't act like an ignorant savage, we won't treat you like an ignorant savage.

The way you describe it sounds more like "So long as you don't move from the wallpaper, we won't lynch you for existing".

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Wasn't this the plot of the direct to VHS Cinderella sequel?

The plot of the sequels was that the sister could become better given proper motivation, not that she was misunderstood.

 

[Irregardless]

Unfortunate news,
Jeff Garcia, the comedian and Jimmy Neutron voice actor, died at 50 on Dec. 10



Also,
"His son, Jojo Garcia...."


Edit: Fuck me, of course I'm late...

Sheen was probably the most unique character on Jimmy Neutron, right next to kid that loves to slap his knees.

More importantly, someone should go check up on Libby:

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

Oh the world of 1999, before black fatigue had reached the critical mass it's at now.

I know it's not the rankin bass Rudolph, but youtube had purged pretty much all the classic Rankin bass Christmas specials that weren't uploaded to be paid for to watch. It's easier to find obscure stuff no company will give a shit about copyright claiming.


Which is saying something given this is the only good times entertainment movie to get a theatrical release....albiet a very limited one even for 1998.

I remember watching this version of Rudolph as a kid. The VHS of it is probably still somewhere in my parents house. It ends with that awful Paul McCartney "simply having a wonderful Christmastime" song. If I watched it now I would probably think it sucks, but as a kid I liked the reindeer games thing and the evil witch plot going on with it, so I'd usually watch it once a Christmas season.

There was also some 3D-CG Rudolph movie which was intended to be a sequel to the original Rankin/Bass one that I used to watch. They meet the Tooth Fairy or something? And it deals a lot more with the misfit toys I think? No idea who made it and we probably don't have that anymore.

The real Christmas kino which my family would gather around to watch on Christmas Day is Will Vinton's Claymation Christmas, preserved here as a playlist on Youtube. We had a copy we had recorded on VHS from some over-air channel back in the 80s when it first aired. Good Christmas feels and most of the sketches that go with the songs are very funny.
Love those California Raisins.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Love those California Raisins.

next reindeer's due by any minute
but yeah that's a good one, good gags, fun animation, Jesus exists, and a Python reference
lots of good arrangements

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

that movie always made me wish penguins scamming people with counterfeit watches was real.

He looks like a villain you'd see the Penguins of Madagascar fight.

Elf Bowling is good for heckling with friends.
probably one of the only Holiday Specials to use the word "funbags"

I personally prefer Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer for my so bad, it's good Christmas movies. It's the only Christmas special I've ever seen that references the O.J. Simpson murder trial.

It’s all so tiresome…
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Who's willing to bet Cinderella or the Fairy Godmother will be the villain?

Wasn't this the plot of the direct to VHS Cinderella sequel?

Beat me to it.

Sorry for the double post but Jeff Garcia the voice of sheen from Jimmy neutron has died at the age of 50, possibly due to pneumonia complications.

He's showing Ultra Lord to Michael and Gabriel now.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I personally prefer Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer for my so bad, it's good Christmas movies. It's the only Christmas special I've ever seen that references the O.J. Simpson murder trial.

that's a fun shitheap too

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Obligatory suing the pants off of Santa.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I personally prefer Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer for my so bad, it's good Christmas movies. It's the only Christmas special I've ever seen that references the O.J. Simpson murder trial.

My personal pick for so bad they're transcendent animated Christmas specials is a tie between these two:


If you've somehow never seen these....for the love of God please do. They have to be seen to be believed.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

My personal pick for so bad they're transcendent animated Christmas specials is a tie between these two:
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If you've somehow never seen these....for the love of God please do. They have to be seen to be believed.

I run the risk of sounding extremely autistic - the black dog & the tree in the background looked like a weird Sephiroth montage at first.

But regardless, speaking for real now - are these Christmas specials kind of a "Nutshack meets The Room" on a level of "so bad it's good"?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

But regardless, speaking for real now - are these Christmas specials kind of a "Nutshack meets The Room" on a level of "so bad it's good"?

That's actually the perfect descriptor for The Christmas Tree in particular. Rapsittie Street Kids is a different kind of so bad it's good, in that, were it not for one EXTREMELY noticeable factor, it'd be looked back on as a perfectly average Christmas special

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

That's actually the perfect descriptor for The Christmas Tree in particular. Rapsittie Street Kids is a different kind of so bad it's good, in that, were it not for one EXTREMELY noticeable factor, it'd be looked back on as a perfectly average Christmas special

I should have a look at it. Thanks!

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Obligatory suing the pants off of Santa.

While that song is still peak, it's also important to bring up the "Grandpa sings about his dead wife hooking up with Elvis in Heaven" song.

If you've somehow never seen these....for the love of God please do. They have to be seen to be believed.

I've seen one of them... kinda...

Rapsittie Street Kids is a different kind of so bad it's good, in that, were it not for one EXTREMELY noticeable factor, it'd be looked back on as a perfectly average Christmas special

You mean the surprisingly all-star cast including Mark Hamill, Nancy Cartwright, and Jodi Benson?

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

While that song is still peak, it's also important to bring up the "Grandpa sings about his dead wife hooking up with Elvis in Heaven" song.

I've seen one of them... kinda...

You mean the surprisingly all-star cast including Mark Hamill, Nancy Cartwright, and Jodi Benson?

and being done by a crew who wishes they were the Ratboy Genius guy

 

[Trilby]

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I personally prefer Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer for my so bad, it's good Christmas movies. It's the only Christmas special I've ever seen that references the O.J. Simpson murder trial.

Never got around to watching this one, but interesting they got that out of such a silly tune I listened to 40 years ago, let alone a tale of a family in mourning for a member's demise the night before.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Never got around to watching this one, but interesting they got that out of such a silly tune I listened to 40 years ago.

I watched it all the time as a kid, but as an adult, it's one of my favorite so bad it's good movies. It's honestly amazing just how bizarre this special is.

They try to adapt parts of the song to be more kid-friendly, but it only overcomplicates things. For example, the verse about Grandma (yes, she never gets an actual name) drinking eggnog and forgetting her medication is recontextualized into her having an egg alergy she needs the medication for. Also, not only does Grandma survive getting hit by Santa (who took her to the North Pole for medical care), it's revealed to be a complete accident because her fruitcake was spiked with reindeer nip that drove the reindeer towards her.

However, at the same time, there's a lot of legal talk that has no place in a cartoon for kids. The main plot revolves around Cousin Mel (who was only mentioned a single time in the song and is now the main villain) wanting a rich CEO to buy out a general store Grandma owns. After Grandma gets hit by the reindeer, she's presumed dead, but Mel can't sell the store because Grandpa has power of attorney, which she has to trick him into signing away after he sings about Elvis. When Santa explains what happened Mel and the CEO, Mel sets up a plan to kidnap the fully recovered but now amnesiac Grandma and sue Santa for her disappearance in the first place. The special has serious courtroom terms during the trial of Santa Claus for some reason.

And then there are other weird elements, like the main character's last name being Spankenheimer, a police code for disputes over the existence of Santa, Santa's email address being public knowledge, and an actual line having a character saying "Better get looking for the old broad."

It's my favorite kind of bad movie: absolutely stupid, but absolutely sincere in its stupidity.

 

[Mr. Nobodyguy 202]

Sorry for the double post but Jeff Garcia the voice of sheen from Jimmy neutron has died at the age of 50, possibly due to pneumonia complications.

Sad day for FOP, Ben 10, and Rachet & Clank fans too, Jim Ward also passed away too.
https://x.com/ToonHive/status/1998971107790172441?s=20

 

[The Great One]

here's a kind of malaise era christmas special, I sometimes enjoy

A.K.A the looney tunes holiday special that was featured in lethal weapon (where riggs is contemplating on an hero with his pistol. But is then reminded of his wife after getting distracted by the tv and then doesn't an hero)

Its only decent part I liked was the roadrunner short by chuck jones in-between the stilted friz freleng stuff in the beginning and end.

 

[Archeops]

Sad day for FOP, Ben 10, and Rachet & Clank fans too, Jim Ward also passed away too.
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I just went over to Twitter and I noticed that too. Jim Ward's death is just as tragic Garcia's: he retired in 2021 due to early-onset Alzheimer's and COVID complications and I can only assume that they played a part in his passing.

 

[Rungle]