[–] ▶ №2839056[Quote]>>2839082
>>2838495>confusing WHG chads with EEFngmi
▶ №2839082[Quote]>>2839089
>>2839056WSH were a mixture of EHG & CHG (Both WHG derived groups with significant ANE mixture) so I don't see your point
WHG resurfaced with a vengeance
▶ №2839089[Quote]>>2839100
>>2839082anf were also whg derived
their position in this analysis is intermediate between Natufian farmers and Western Hunter-Gatherers (WHG). This last point is confirmed by the ADMIXTURE and qp-Adm analysis and confirms the presence of hunter-gatherers of both European and Near-Eastern origins in Central Anatolia in the late Pleistocene. meaningless
▶ №2839100[Quote]>>2839112
>>2839089Weren't Anatolian HG mainly Dzudzuana with a slight villabruna component?
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or am I thinking of CHG
▶ №2839120[Quote]>>2839142
>>2839112That's just a map of Chalcolithic/EBA populations, I'm speaking about Anatolian HG (Ancestors to Pinabarsi & Barcin)
I'm pretty sure they were mainly Dzudzuana & Basal eurasian with only slight drift towards Villabruna, meanwhile CHG was a genetically drifted sibling population of WHG that absorbed some Dzudzuana.
At that point, ANE is ultimately WHG/Gravettian derived as well so the point would be moot
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>>2838495the point I was making here is that WHG ancestry is so little in Europe (Except for Steppe-Corded Ware & ANF basal mix contributions) that it usually numbers at its highest 20% in the balts
meaning the whgphonos mutted xhemselves and left little genetic contribution on populations like Scotland_N Megalith builders and GAC/TBK before Steppe conquerors came in
▶ №2839134[Quote]>>2839144
Corded ware is second tuffest
▶ №2839142[Quote]>>2839161>>2839162
>>2839120Yeah WHG and CHG being like "sibling populations" is interesting I and J split
In reconstructions CHG look more similar to modern day caucuses populations whilst WHG is made to look as jeetlike as possible for literally no fucking reason lol, if anything WHG would've been lighter than CHG, they had the OCA2 gene.
<Also like TECHNICALLY haplo I was carried into Europe by vestonice/gravettian/magdalenians although WHG are literally descended from those groups anyways
▶ №2839145[Quote]>>2839150
>>2839135Sintashta/Andronvo/Scythians were fucking tuff moggers bro
▶ №2839150[Quote]>>2839155
>>2839145yeah but they were steppebaldis not western hunter gatherers
▶ №2839155[Quote]>>2839175
>>2839144Does that genetic makeup mean that they are like 60-70% WHG and 30-20% ANE?
>>2839150Yeah ik but they iz also tuff asf
▶ №2839161[Quote]>>2839174
>>2839142Interesting point that you brought up about CHG looking like Mtebid, as there is a living equivalent of the WHG/SHG phenotype that exists today
If anything, the CHG populations show that genetic variation shows that the phenotypes don't die over time (or change that much)
Therefore, it wouldn't be too much of a leap in logic to say that Paleo-Atlantids/Tydaliforms/Canarids/Dalo-Faelids are the living relics of WHG cro-magnons.
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/koncepcja-ras-geograficznych/b-lundman/rasa-paleo-atlantycka ▶ №2839162[Quote]
>>2839142most of those abhorrent african pajeet looking reconstructions of old european populations are made by literal deviant artist irrelevant fags like PhillipEdwin
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What?
▶ №2839174[Quote]>>2839186>>2839201
>>2839161Yeah I agree to that
WHG were noted specifically as having skulls resembling modern Europeans iirc and their newer, more accurate reconstructions show them having phenos like Paleo-atlantid
>>2839164tsmt
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>>2839155considering that EHG is ~1/3 WHG and 2/3 ANE, around there yeah
66% WHG 33% ANE
They got absorbed by Sredny Stog, and Sredny Stog was the population of EHG that mixed with the pontic caspian steppe peoples to form the proto indo-europeans
therefore they wonned
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I feel so dirty using hte term "indo" europeans, it's like a degrader
I think steppe nords are more accurate
▶ №2839186[Quote]>>2839201
>>2839174The Teviec woman you linked in the middle image bottom left is said to be a type of paleo-atlantid according to Coon.
Borreby as well appears to be an extension of SHG/Baltic_HG phenotypes, appearing in Jutland Denmark (Possibly Pitted Ware remnant?)
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>>2839174I guess the average WHG pheno would've been paleoatlantid but they would've had more blue eyes (well WHG were overwhelmingly blue eyed lol) and also more "robust"?
<I may be wrong about the blue eye thing but the paleoatlantid pheno results I get from google mainly show it as light skinned, brown haired, brown eyed, light-tan skin, robust face.
>>2839186SHG have closer genetic distance to Saami and other nordic groups like Norwegians iirc, their phenos would've been similar to robust northern/western European types like Borreby or possibly Faelid
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>>2839201Obviously they wouldn't have asiatic phenos like some Saamis do they would be caucasoid facially
▶ №2839217[Quote]>>2839231
>>2839201PWC (Scandinavian Hunter Gatherers) were closer in distance to modern day Euros than standard WHG or EHG were (Because they were a 50% 50% or a 60% 40% mixture).
I think you're thinking of full EHG being closer to saamis than norwegians
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>>2839201also about the blue eyes, AndreiDNA does some eye color analysis of WHG and they show to be mainly Yellow/Amber eyed and Blue eyed with Amber centers, while having Black Hair. You should look at some of his analysis on WHG samples to see what his trait predictor comes up with
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>>2839201Wow they actually didn't make this one black and retarded
▶ №2839231[Quote]>>2839236>>2839257
>>2839217I think I watched like an AndreiDNA youtube video or it was some guy on reddit that said that lol
Motala12 may have been closer to Saami but yeah pitted ware was more related to modern northern european groups
▶ №2839236[Quote]>>2839278
>>2839231bruh I misread the pca 💀 AG2 is the yellow one that is close to finns is that like a ANE or EHG sample?
▶ №2839241[Quote]>>2839242
What language are you lot speaking
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>>2839241Haploautism saar
▶ №2839257[Quote]>>2839266
>>2839231Motala12 was roughly 50% EHG and 50% WHG, that's why he drifts towards Karelians and Lithvaks,
PWC however could be modelled as 50% WHG 30% EHG 20% ANF, so that's why it shifts even closer to Modern Euros
Thoughever you should be right, Motala12 is around where SHG would plot.
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>>2839236AG2 is Afontova Gora, which is a pure ANE sample related to MA1 (mal'ta buret boy).
The 2 dimensional plot has its limits though, because the MA1 boy is shifted out further into the screen (Way further) and so is the Afontova Gora sample.
These Plots visualize the distance a bit better
▶ №2839286[Quote]>>2839503
>>2839269dude you literally made a thread saying "Please I'm just looking for attention I made the bait thread that all Europeans were Indians originally I stole these images off 4chan why doo people genuinely believe thisssss"
Nobody cares nigga
▶ №2839298[Quote]>>2839319
>>2839269Retard thai ladyboy fag WHG/gravettians/vestonice were literally west eurasians that split off from haplo IJ they don't come from India, at best you could say that they come from west asia or something.
ANEs come from Siberia too, their previous ancestors were east asians not Indians, and they were mixed with UP west eurasians.
▶ №2839313[Quote]>>2839331
>>2839284Western Steppe Herders - basically just refers to Khvalynsk, Repin, Sredny Stog, and Yamnaya (a mix of Eastern hunter gatherers and Caucuses Hunter gatherers).
Corded ware culture split off from sredny stog and then mixed with neolithic farmer groups in Northern Europe. After that Corded-Ware derived groups would proceed to rape all of Eurasia.
▶ №2839319[Quote]>>2839325
>>2839298don't even engage with his bait he just wants attention dude
He copys images from /his/ on the cuck with sri lankan file names and then parrots their arguments like a retard because he just wants reppies
There is no argument, there is no truth behind his words, it's just costa rican seethe
▶ №2839325[Quote]>>2839346
>>2839319Yeah Ik he copy and pastes shit from Darkwitch and that one Australian aboriginal jeet fag from /his/
▶ №2839346[Quote]>>2839357>>2839387
>>2839325i think the funniest shit about the "Europeans came from India" nobeidore drama is that Darkwitch is addicted to BNWO Porn
also that it just btfos indians eitherway because either they didn't keep genetic purity and mixed with subhuman slime so the pure ones emigrated away
Or that the aryans invaded from Europe (Which they did) and imposed their culture on browns who still speak and seethe about it to this day
▶ №2839357[Quote]>>2839369
>>2839346who is darkwitch some haplogroup namefag?
▶ №2839361[Quote]>>2839392
Moordvix won thoughever even if he's a gooknord
▶ №2839387[Quote]>>2839407
>>2839346Trvke most of the r1a/r1b in Eurasia directly comes from Corded-Ware derived European RAPE rampages from the Bronze Age. Pajeets were mogged by white European Indo-Aryans, the population that genetically contributed to India were 60% WSH - 30% European Farmer (WHG/ANF mutts) - 10% West Siberian Hunter Gatherer (a population similar to modern udmurts). So just like Sintashta and Andronovo they would've been roughly similar to western europeans.
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>>2839387i'm pretty sure the population that invaded india were just sintashta
The West Siberian Hunter Gatherer component comes from the time the Mongols raped them (It's why Khan is so prevalent among their last names, they wanted to make themselves feel like kings so they changed their name to King qeqqq)
▶ №2839503[Quote]>>2839508
>>2839286Everyone falls for my bait.
▶ №2839510[Quote]>>2839514
>>2839508Please don't wake up the PvZ faggot
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>>2839510the video is cemny thoughever
