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One Week as an ICE-ERO DO: Lessons Learned, Shocking First Days, and Advice for New Hires
Hey everyone, As promised, here’s my one-week overview of my current experience as a Deportation Officer (DO) with ICE-ERO. If you haven’t seen my initial post, you can check it out here: My First Impressions. https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_ERO/s/g2PuHrFgYu This first week has been an incredible experience—challenging, eye-opening, and rewarding. On my third official day during orientation, I witnessed the shooting incident in Dallas, TX. It was a shocking reminder of the dangers we face in this profession. May the Lord bless the one who lost their life, and keep the rest of us safe. We live in tough times, but I firmly believe good will overcome evil. Despite the risks, this job is worth it. Serving this country and growing in this role has a purpose bigger than ourselves. For those of you who are new hires or still waiting for your EOD, here’s some advice that may help you: Key Advice for New Hires NEO Emails: Be patient—your New Employee Orientation (NEO) email can arrive anytime before your official EOD date. ICE is hiring thousands right now, and if you’re in the process, trust that you’ll get your turn. POC Communication: If you have a point of contact (POC), especially an MSS (Mission Support Specialist), reach out to them for clarification on any questions. They’re a great resource. Polygraphs: If you fail the ICE polygraph, you won’t be hired. Federal policy requires you to wait two years before reapplying or retaking the test. There are very rare exceptions. EOD & Duty Station: Your Entry on Duty (EOD) determines your duty location or sub-office. You’ll spend time in orientation before leaving for FLETC, so keep an eye on your academy dates once they’re assigned. FLETC Registration: Register for FLETC as soon as you receive the email instructions. You’ll also get a confirmation shortly after. PIV Card: Do your best to get your PIV (ID badge) before NEO. It makes the transition smoother and saves you from daily “airport-style” security scans. If you’re fingerprinted on or after your official EOD, you can often request the card the same day. Paperwork: Complete and submit as many forms as you can through the portal before NEO. Print out the rest at home. Trust me—showing up prepared saves you time and avoids frustration. Thrift Savings Plan (TSP): Consider maximizing contributions early. Ask MSS for details or do some research; it’s worth it in the long run. Firearms: If you’ve never shot before, get some range time. Learn to safely handle and build confidence with a firearm. ICE-ERO is moving away from the SIG P320 and returning to Glock 19s (or something similar). Like one of our trainers said: invest in yourself and come ready. Academy Length: The academy is 54 days long—not because it’s easier, but because you’ll work six days a week with only one day off. Be prepared for long days and stay sharp. Transportation: Personally, I recommend not driving if you want to save money. FLETC provides transportation, and you’ll avoid putting miles on your car. That said, if you live nearby, weigh your options. Final Thoughts I could go on, but I think these are the essentials to set you up for success. This is a dangerous but honorable job—come prepared, stay humble, and invest in yourself. If you have questions, feel free to drop them here. Please be specific so I (and others) can give you the clearest answers possible. Stay safe, God bless, and welcome to the journey. 🙏🏾

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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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Aggressive-Duck-8965 · 9/29/2025, 10:57:20 AM
Academy Length: The academy is 54 days long—not because it’s easier, but because you’ll work six days a week with only one day off. Be prepared for long days and stay sharp. They legit cut the PAA sessions from the academy bro. It is literally easier. Also, take your car if you can, lmao. It is ass without a whip
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timsierram1st · 9/29/2025, 10:59:13 AM
Great Info! Regarding the PIV card, how would one go about getting their card before NEO?
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:02:59 AM
Are u virtual academy?
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ncast21 · 9/29/2025, 11:08:39 AM
Do you have any information on when they have you take the ICE polygraph and complete your background? I would hate to leave my current job and be disqualified during the academy Also, thanks in advance for taking the time to type out all this information!
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 11:09:17 AM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:10:53 AM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:12:37 AM
If you have an official EOD, and have scheduled for fingerprints go and get your PIV card. You must have an EOD if not you won't given a PIV.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:15:55 AM
You're welcome bro. For this hiring surge the agency is not doing polys but I can be wrong so a poly can be part of it or not. For your background you'll get instructions in regards to it. If there's nothing to worry about your good.
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SomeAnonymousBurner · 9/29/2025, 11:16:43 AM
PSD is disqualifying people for failing any DHS Poly
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:17:38 AM
Will you be DQ for just DHS polys? Or does that include other Fed polys?
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:18:00 AM
Apparently yeah, that's the sad case.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:18:46 AM
No, as I don't have any LEO experience
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SomeAnonymousBurner · 9/29/2025, 11:19:20 AM
Guess I’ll try again in 2028. I regret applying to CBP
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:19:56 AM
To my understanding it's just by DHS. But I can be wrong
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:21:10 AM
Yeah, hopefully the agency addresses this, as they're DQ many great people 😔
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Alarming_Visit5021 · 9/29/2025, 11:22:53 AM
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Alarming_Visit5021 · 9/29/2025, 11:23:19 AM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:23:47 AM
If i received “inconclusive results” on a poly for border patrol back in 2015 will they DQ me?
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ncast21 · 9/29/2025, 11:24:39 AM
I see. I’m only concerned because I failed my background with CBP, but passed their polygraph. So I’m not sure if ICE would use the CBP background and disqualify me I will not disclose details on my failed background here, but willing to chat if necessary for other redditors who would like to know
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Firemen947 · 9/29/2025, 11:26:42 AM
I had to do a poly for the June expo then was DQ’d in Sept for failure to respond… BI was released on 7/29 but poly wasn’t scheduled till 7/31. Finally they realized it after nearly a million emails. Now they sent the BI to be reprocessed
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nyrfan1991 · 9/29/2025, 11:30:29 AM
Have they processed your SF forms yet?
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Several_Structure418 · 9/29/2025, 11:33:12 AM
I went for CBP and was there for 4.5 months. No car, I only left base once a week. Got to the point where I legit felt paranoid going out into public and was constantly looking at waist bands, entry exits points etc…. Bring your damn car for your sanity, riding the FLETC bus in and out once a week was depressing AF.
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 11:34:50 AM
Sent the background 2 days ago
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BomTrady15 · 9/29/2025, 11:43:32 AM
So it is possible to get the NEO Meeting first before the tentative or official job offer? Cause that’s happened to me and don’t know if it was just a mistake or not.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:45:31 AM
Yeah that can be the case. But keep in mind they can push your EOD too.
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fragar65 · 9/29/2025, 11:48:47 AM
I heard that the PAA sessions were cut to fewer sessions at the academy (less re-testing), but the actual requirements (run, sprint, stepper, sit-ups, push-ups) remain the same. Let me know if this is correct.
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timsierram1st · 9/29/2025, 11:54:22 AM
In my case, I have an EOD, but already did my fingerprints. Could I still schedule the appointment or would I have to wait until after NEO now?
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timsierram1st · 9/29/2025, 12:03:03 PM
Nevermind, I just found my old LIVESCAN Registration email. It was still active to schedule another appointment. I selected NEW PIV. When I did my Livescan, I didn't have a EOD yet. Now that I do, do I need to bring anything specific besides two forms of ID? Just my EOD email to prove I have an EOD date?
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Aggressive-Duck-8965 · 9/29/2025, 12:09:00 PM
apologies, meant PAAT (or PAA-T? whatever lol) sessions. the actual test is different from the old academy (o-course + run). both tests are easy to pass regardless. it was more what they did to you between the tests that made the old academy challenging
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timsierram1st · 9/29/2025, 12:09:16 PM
One last question. I'm assuming I'll have to go to FLETC even though I was a federal law enforcement officer, but this was 3 years ago when I went into IT. Any insight into how long after serving is the cutoff between virtual and physical FLETC?
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 12:12:35 PM
You're still serving? Or what is your current job? Maybe I can answer your question
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 12:14:01 PM
Correct sir! Passport and driver license is fine.
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timsierram1st · 9/29/2025, 12:18:02 PM
Last time I did federal LE was 3 years ago. Currently doing Information Technology at D.O.D. now and I am coming back to LE (should have never left. I.T. isn't my cup of tea).
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timsierram1st · 9/29/2025, 12:18:58 PM
Thanks a ton! EOD on 10/19. See you guys there.
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Dapper-Ad-9585 · 9/29/2025, 12:22:59 PM
Dude you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. Lol
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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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fragar65 · 9/29/2025, 12:27:28 PM
No need for apologies. I appreciate that you shared this information. Yes, I agree, I heard the same. That PAAT was cut down significantly, but the PAA is still required. A huge amount are getting cut at the PAA level though.
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Own-Performance428 · 9/29/2025, 12:47:23 PM
When are we taking the polygraphs?
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Mr_4b0t5101 · 9/29/2025, 1:03:10 PM
If you’re going to try to train Civ P320. then I would work with a M18 compact or M17 X full. Work on your grip, stance, trigger positions and discipline! I can’t stress that enough! Since it’s going to be your carry pistol switching to G19 could be a little bit of a learning curve since it does take a little bit more practice. For Glocks work with a Gen5 and look up on YT how to position your hand with a Glock. Learn the basics and after that work what’s comfortable. Good luck friend.
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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 1:19:16 PM
You know if a sub station will give out a PIV? I ain't driving all the way into the city just for that. I'd rather wait until EOD
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 1:22:48 PM
Apparently, DHS form 11000-5 asks for reciprocity for your current active clearance to transfer. So some won't need new investigations. At least, that's what a few dudes on these threads are saying.
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Mr_4b0t5101 · 9/29/2025, 1:44:38 PM
Sig Romeo X-pro easily one of the best red dots I worked with. For G19’s you don’t have drop 600 to 800 for a Trijicon. Vortex Venom or Delta point are great and even budget friendly
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Automatic_Quiet103 · 9/29/2025, 1:56:46 PM
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Suspicious_Ratio6762 · 9/29/2025, 1:57:30 PM
Physical FLETC 3 years
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 2:01:21 PM
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sneaky_wolf · 9/29/2025, 2:31:24 PM
Ty for this. Im hoping to get a TjO applied just waiting.
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Ok_Ad_5838 · 9/29/2025, 4:35:58 PM
Awesome thanks for this ! I received my OJO on 9/26 and my EOD is 10/05. For me though in the link it says Microsoft teams link will be sent in the NEO email which I haven’t received yet. My duty location isn’t in the same state I live in and I haven’t gotten the survey for my AOR, will I get my NEO email and everything else or should I take the flight and show up. I’m just assuming I should be patient Also I got my EOD without doing fingerprints yet
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roflmango · 9/29/2025, 6:20:55 PM
Been looking for information about this since I've seen a couple other people mention they're not doing polygraphs for this surge. Can I ask you further about this and how you know they may/may not be doing them for the surge? Also, how long is the surge going for?
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Peacefullife02003 · 9/29/2025, 6:27:13 PM
You are a leader. You are leadership material. May God bless you and yours
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JacketScary6464 · 9/29/2025, 7:41:06 PM
Thank you so much for this insight, it really helps. My question is, can you please explain us, are there things that we need to be aware/prepare for that can fail someone during the academy? You don’t want to fail your 52 days academy and loose your job.
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Cute_Lengthiness_283 · 9/29/2025, 8:49:01 PM
pt? when do u take it? is there remedial? are lots of people failing it
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 9:44:28 PM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 9:47:52 PM
Understand, PIV are not giving by any duty office. It's another entity (USCIS) that give it. So just scheduled it online. Sometimes you got do what you got to do.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:04:54 PM
I haven't been to FLECT yet, but PT will be a big part of it. There is remedial but I would recommend get in shape. There will be a lot of running and people are falling the running part.
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Adventurous-Sail8359 · 9/29/2025, 10:05:32 PM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:08:30 PM
I already explained it, but I would say...just be serious because the moment you start NEO you're part of ICE. Work hard and earn your batch. Prepare mentally and physically. Don't hear other people that you want you to fail. Stay humble, the job we're doing is bigger that us, we're securing our country for our future generation.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:09:44 PM
Thanks bro! I am just putting my grain of salt. But I appreciate your comment. God bless you always 🙏🏾
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JacketScary6464 · 9/29/2025, 10:12:33 PM
Thank you, I know this might sound silly but do you have any idea like how much does a G7 get paid? Just the base salary. I was offered a G7 level.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:14:11 PM
Unfortunately for people that have a poly even more than 2 years are being DQ unfortunately, because those are good people that wants a chance. When I said that Polys are not being part of this surge I concluded this because all the people that I ask haven't taken it. And I think of you read carefully it says it. October 31 is the end of surge if I am not mistaken.
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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:17:06 PM
Do you have LEO experience? It's roughly 58K per year but pay is based on location duty, OT made and experience. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2025/law-enforcement-officer/
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 10:20:09 PM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:21:41 PM
You'll eventually do fingerprints and rest. Patient is high valuable skill right now! Good luck 👍🏾
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:22:09 PM
You'll get it. 💪🏾
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 10:23:05 PM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:23:41 PM
Copy. Hopefully that's the case for you!
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:24:10 PM
I am not taking Poly for this position.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:25:27 PM
Thanks for your comment. Because of it we have fun today.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:26:16 PM
Let's us know what they say
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:28:01 PM
I cannot assure this, but they should provide an answer.
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 10:28:19 PM
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 10:28:42 PM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:30:08 PM
PIV Card: no. Not everyone can get a PIV card before EOD. You’ll need your provisional clearance through PSD before hand and where you can get it is going to be dependent on location. Not every office can issue them. Transportation: drive your POV. Even without the extra personnel there currently for training, depending on FLETC transportation is not effective. Take your POV to get away, pick up food ( especially if the chow hall is crowded) , pick up supplies, rest and relaxation etc. No one is forcing you to stay on campus after working hours. It’s good to have the freedom to come and go Firearms- if you’ve never handled a firearm before. Don’t go and practice because you’ll create your own bad habits. Wait until FLETC.
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:33:32 PM
Thanks for your comment. Every person that is part of ICE-ERO has its own unique situation and experience. I am sharing my own experience because that's what has worked for me. Obviously if you never shoot a gun invest in a trainer that's what I did. Good luck everyone!
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JacketScary6464 · 9/29/2025, 10:33:53 PM
No experience and I will be based in Dallas, TX
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 10:39:13 PM
You mentioned not wanting to spend a dime but are paying a trainer? Coming from experience in law enforcement that’s not smart. Again. Wait until you are at FLETC. You are feeding people with information and you barely have 2 weeks on the job
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ICE_ERO-ModTeam · 9/29/2025, 10:43:34 PM
Be professional.
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Kooky-Magician-5488 · 9/29/2025, 10:52:56 PM
I got an EOD but never took a polygraph?
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Anonymous · 9/29/2025, 10:56:31 PM
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:02:22 PM
Thanks for your input. I am sharing my experience, that's all I am doing. Do what's best for you. At NEO one of the trainers emphasized that for people that don't have experience using firearms invest in yourself, that's what I am doing. The academy is only 54 days long. If people want to go to FLETC and start then fine.
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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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Purple_Ad7150 · 9/29/2025, 11:53:21 PM
DM’ed you
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Arthumaine · 9/29/2025, 11:58:42 PM
Virtual academy is an abomination to ICE! Imagine any other agency allowing former LEOs to do a virtual academy and getting a gun and badge. Would the ATF or FBI allow this? This is absurd!
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Suspicious_Ratio6762 · 9/30/2025, 12:05:33 AM
What about a failed Polygraph 6 years ago with Border Patrol? Will that disqualify me from the process?
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Additional-Ad178 · 9/30/2025, 12:11:26 AM
Is this just federal LEO experience. I’m a local deputy. Will I be able to do virtual
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Jumpy-Permission4552 · 9/30/2025, 12:13:28 AM
Everyone doesn’t have to do a polygraph for ice-Ero DO
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Suspicious_Ratio6762 · 9/30/2025, 12:40:51 AM
I'd say no. There's always retakes
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 12:43:10 AM
Must likely if you have any enforcement experience with local and federal you'll be able to do it virtually but I also recommend reaching to your FLETC for official information based on your own situation.
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 12:49:47 AM
With no prior LE experience you’re unlikely to get GL-7. As a 7 step 2 I make gross roughly 4k a paycheck if you take out OT and everything other than LE pay. No idea for sure what a GL-5 makes but I think it’s between 3-3,500.
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 12:52:57 AM
It's not as easy as you think. Those people that has LEO experience are still required to train (firearm) in order to receive badge and gun. You'll find out all the details later on.
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Minute-Researcher320 · 9/30/2025, 12:55:29 AM
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SomeAnonymousBurner · 9/30/2025, 12:57:04 AM
PSD is disqualifying for DHS poly failures right now but I wouldn’t be surprised if they change it to all fed polys
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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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Anonymous · 9/30/2025, 12:57:30 AM
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 12:58:19 AM
I was qualified G7 based on education
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 12:59:23 AM
I was qualified a G7 based on the education. I’m already in background phase right now. Fingerprint is done already.
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Anonymous · 9/30/2025, 1:03:45 AM
Okay sweet! Good luck. From what I understand it’s a 7 one year 9 one year 11 path.
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SomeAnonymousBurner · 9/30/2025, 1:08:48 AM
PSD might disqualify you
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 1:16:55 AM
I have two options right now. CBPO and ICE and they both offered me a G7 level. I’m in the same process for both roles background investigation.
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Own-Performance428 · 9/30/2025, 2:00:22 AM
But is there a time where we all need to take the polygraphs?
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Diligent-Delay-357 · 9/30/2025, 2:35:58 AM
If you haven’t been to FLETC- I would omit the transportation part. Unless you want to stay on the grounds and never go do anything on your off days… you’ll end up paying for Ubers. People in your class will want to go do stuff, and you’ll wish you had one. Trust me- we had a guy that was annoying everyone asking for a ride! Furthermore, the tests are not difficult if you pay attention and take good notes. Apply yourself, but go enjoy yourself as well! You’ll go crazy if you stay on the grounds the entire time. I went to Jekyll island/Jacksonville/ etc a lot while I was out there…
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Remarkable-FirmForce · 9/30/2025, 2:37:56 AM
That pay sucks really. Got guys out here working Off Duty gigs away from regular Patrol making over $100,000 in just off duty work. That’s me, in Indianapolis area ODE is everywhere, ode alone I did over 120k last year, did just over 112k in 2024. So seeing that actual pay scale, really makes me second guess my application 😂
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Mindless-Penalty6714 · 9/30/2025, 3:46:15 AM
If you’re making over 200k with off duty and on duty work combined I’m not sure why you’re applying anywhere else lmao. Especially in Indianapolis.
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Remarkable-FirmForce · 9/30/2025, 3:54:42 AM
Not combined, just ODE is those numbers. I work for smaller agency, salary of 45k. In reality I do more hours ODE then working at the department yearly. But yeah I applied Blindly cause of hearing about the bonus and others saying the job was gonna be over 100k. I never saw that pay scale until earlier seeing the comment Link above. So yeah i probably won’t pursue lol 😂
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 4:06:36 AM
CBP is micro managed at a port with more than 150 officers so choose wisely if you go that route. I came from a land border with 600+ officers and I’m glad I left. Great experience but it’s one of those jobs where you thought maybe it was gonna be a little high speed….it ain’t. Haha easy money tho.
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Anonymous · 9/30/2025, 4:08:48 AM
This is only for certain individuals who already have a higher level of training. It’s not absurd, it’s just not necessary to do rework and go through the same training you’ve had over and over.
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Mindless-Penalty6714 · 9/30/2025, 4:19:21 AM
The pay scales are widely misleading. They don’t factor in AUO and mandatory overtime plus the distributed sign on bonus over 5 years. After 3 years you can expect to make over around 120k. LA locality those dudes are making 150+ at least.
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 4:32:25 AM
Thank you, I need an active work kind of actions. Not sitting down or a post like a security guard. I’m currently running away from offices jobs because of sitting or being at one spot all day. And you are right, I heard from different people like with CBPO like you need to kiss people boots in order to move ahead.
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CaptainSquareHead · 9/30/2025, 5:14:08 AM
Thought there was no PT at the academy as long as you pass the PFT on day two?
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Anonymous · 10/27/2025, 3:24:32 AM
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ICE_ERO-ModTeam · 9/30/2025, 5:37:10 AM
Be professional.
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Ancient_Agency111 · 9/30/2025, 5:50:38 AM
Thats insane, everyone is usually told, even from classes long before “if you’ve never shot a weapon before, you’ll definitely learn at FLETC” insinuating that all you’ll do is learn and shoot at academy because if you shot before you’ll build bad habits. For them to tell you “invest in yourself” blows my mind. Anyone who completed UPTP, BIETP, or 1811s have advice on this?
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Outside-Strength-486 · 9/30/2025, 7:32:38 AM
As someone already mentioned, when it comes to PIV cards, only get them earlier if you were explicitly told to do so. You’ll waste your time getting an appointment, going there, and then be turned around because you weren’t cleared to do so. Firearms- Yes they will transition over to Glocks but nobody knows when, they STILL are qualifying at this current time SOLELY with a Sig P320 with a red dot (you can opt out of red dot). Ultimately- EVERY field office operates a bit differently which means that what you hear from one person here may not apply to you and or will get done differently and or in a different order. Most things however are policy and have a standard procedure that all must follow.
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Neither-Camp4584 · 9/30/2025, 7:41:19 AM
Please drive if you can. Im literally leaving base 4-5 nights a week just to get out or pick up something. Whether it’s a meal, snack, item for class, better cuff key, or just to get away. It’s well worth driving. I would absolutely hate having to bum a ride, be on someone else’s time, or be confined to a bus schedule.
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 7:48:46 AM
I have seen it a lot, it’s not TO much sitting around. You can kind of choose what you want to be involved in. ERO is a lot more paper work. CBP is either counter/paper work OR you can be outside running enforcement ops. You’ll get your fair share of looking at passports and admitting people. But Yeha it’s definitely not high speed unless you can get to a port where seniority isn’t a thing for DCET or you wanna go SRT.
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 7:59:46 AM
I just want to be active or doing some physical work during my shift. I need my body to be in movement. So, it looks like both offer might come at the same time.
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 8:04:45 AM
So in terms of growth opportunities and support from management which one is better?
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MIL2017sti · 9/30/2025, 8:39:45 AM
Been on the job less than a month but can tell you all about it. Lmao
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Top_Satisfaction_886 · 9/30/2025, 8:48:07 AM
If i had photos taken of me during fingerprinting will that photo be used for my PIV id? And will be given it on the first day?
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Democrrracy-Manifest · 9/30/2025, 8:48:29 AM
Former BP and ERO, currently with HSI. ERO is very desk heavy. Even if you’re at a proactive office, it’s not going to be guaranteed to be out and about every day. Even if you were doing enforcement ops every day, you’d spend most of the day sitting in your car, wearing your kit, doing surveillance. Otherwise, you’ll be at your desk making A-files, using excel, running database checks, etc. CBP OFO is probably even more sedentary. I’m not gonna get too much into it because it’s been discussed ad nausem in the 1811 sub and I’m sure former or current CBPOs can chime in but I’ll address your earlier comment: Thank you, I need an active work kind of actions. Not sitting down or a post like a security guard. I’m currently running away from offices jobs because of sitting or being at one spot all day. Sorry, but you are in the process for two of the many federal law-enforcement jobs that are the most like that. Obviously all the security police jobs are worse, but OFO and ERO are not much better. OFO is literally that what you said you want to avoid. You’ll be sitting down and you are at a post just like a security guard. And you will be at one spot all day or they’ll just move you to a spot a few dozen feet in that direction after 30 mins at that booth. Yeah, there are some roving positions and teams, but you don’t get to do that every day all the time and those teams are seniority based. You have to do a lot of time as a stamp jockey before you get to do those details. Sounds like BP would be more your thing, especially if you get to somewhere where you can hike. Everything except your interview and PFT-1 (did they even do this anymore) will carry over for BP so it should be pretty painless. The interview is the easiest interview I’ve ever done in my life. If you pass the OFO PFT-1 you will pass the BP one. But if you really want action, be doing stuff all day, being proactive, etc. then you need to go be a local cop.
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Democrrracy-Manifest · 9/30/2025, 8:59:18 AM
This is from personal experience and the experience of CBPOs and other ICE officers. OFO is very top heavy and has a ton of non-supervisory manager positions for everything under the sun. However, leadership on average is pretty toxic. A lot of leadership are risk-averse and don’t act like law-enforcement officers. So if you do what you’re told, don’t be too proactive that your supervisors have to do extra work or you make your coworkers look bad, do your job relatively well, and if you’re willing to relocate to anywhere in the country, then you’ll promote up quick. I’d say that in ERO the management is probably a little better, but there are still plenty of snakes. If you’re willing to move in, you’re very competent at immigration, law and paperwork, you’ll promote up to a supervisory role fast. There are a few non-supervisory “Detention and Deportation Officer”(GS-14) positions which are pretty much program managers scattered throughout the agency as well.
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Democrrracy-Manifest · 9/30/2025, 9:05:36 AM
No offense to you, but that “trainer” would get bitched out by every ERO and HSI firearms instructor if he said that in front of them. Just because one guy said it doesn’t make it gospel. I have had plenty of non-firearm instructors or senior officials at my agencies that were not farms instructors say really dumb shit. Every firearms instructor I’ve had, whether in an academy or a training setting, has always preferred when students come in with no prior experience. That way, they can build good habits from the start rather than having to break bad ones learned outside a professional law enforcement agency or the military. In my academies, I saw classmates who had never fired a gun before finish as some of the top shooters, simply because they only learned the right habits from day one. And if anything, it’s a total waste of time and money because you won’t get the intense consistent training you would get in an academy setting.
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Democrrracy-Manifest · 9/30/2025, 9:11:11 AM
I’ve been thru a local LE academy, the Border Patrol Academy (130 hours of firearms, it was in ⛺️s), the ERO academy (DOTP), CITP, and the HSI academy (HSISAT). Any “trainer” who tells people to get private instruction before the academy would get chewed out by every ERO or HSI firearms instructor if he said that in front of them. Just because one random ICE DO says it doesn’t make it gospel. I’ve heard plenty of non-firearms instructors or senior officials say some dumb shit. Every firearms instructor I’ve had, whether in an academy or other training setting, has preferred when students show up with no prior experience. That way they can build good habits from the start instead of having to break bad ones picked up outside of a professional law enforcement or military program. I’ve personally seen classmates who had never even handled a gun before finish as some of the top shooters by the end of academy because they learned everything the right way from day one. And really, paying for private lessons is just a waste of time and money. You’ll get way more intensive and consistent firearms training at the academy than anything on the outside.
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Democrrracy-Manifest · 9/30/2025, 9:21:39 AM
The issued P320 comes with a Romeo 1 Pro optic unless they just changed it. It’s gonna take a while for the Glock to get issued out. As soon as people graduate, I just recommend to people to get a P365 X-Macro with a Romeo X Compact for EDC. It also holds 17 rounds, but is a lot more compact and doesn’t have the “reputation for issues” that the P320 has. And then I also recommend getting a G17 with RMR Type 2 and a Surefire X300 Turbo for enforcement ops.
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JacketScary6464 · 9/30/2025, 9:30:21 AM
Thank you for this insight. I watched some videos of current CBP Officers, you are right more like an Office jobs for being stuck in one post. Imagine being at the airport checking passports all day. At this point, ERO is at least okay than OFO.
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Defiant_Sink_4207 · 9/30/2025, 3:21:49 PM
I apologize in advance if it was mentioned before. I applied 8/5/25 for ERO-12740448-DHA-CD As well as Border Patrol & Customs Officer on the same day. For BP & CBP I am done with all currently waiting on Suitability for both. For ERO absolutely nothing has been done since I turnt in the application besides the automated email they received it. No test, no further info/update. Is this normal or should I reapply?
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SillyLittleWinky · 9/30/2025, 3:31:16 PM
EOD is end of day? I thought they stopped polygraphing ICE applicants. Are you in the field already?
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:32:35 PM
No, I am in the process of academy.
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:34:47 PM
It all depends on duty location and agency needs. My recommendation is if you received a TJO you'll be reach, patient is highly valued skill nowadays. Also, you're not alone, many are waiting to be processed. So hang tight and you'll be called.
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:45:35 PM
I agree to disagree. With the academy being much shorter now, I think it makes sense to invest in at least learning the basics beforehand. Having a professional teach firearm fundamentals can build confidence and set you up to handle what's next-but at the end of the day, everyone has their own perspective, so do what works best for you.
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:46:24 PM
Those photos won't work. You get it the same day.
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Top_Satisfaction_886 · 9/30/2025, 9:47:19 PM
Thaks)
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:47:42 PM
Thanks for sharing your personal experience
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:49:16 PM
Copy! Thanks for your input. That really set the tone for DO leaving for FLETC
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:50:49 PM
Could you please share what location you choose? It all comes down to duty location and agency needs!
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:51:58 PM
Put this way, because you passed the PFT, you'll be doing a lot of running. So be ready physically and mentally.
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 9:55:02 PM
Thanks for that valuable comment. Everybody is different. At the end of the day...do what's best for you.
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 10:06:39 PM
Copy, I feel you should be fine. Dallas TX AOR is very busy. You probably won't work for the main office, Dallas but will be stationed to its many sub-offices. So now wait and you should be fine
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Arthumaine · 9/30/2025, 10:06:53 PM
Welcome
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Diligent-Delay-357 · 10/1/2025, 2:26:36 AM
*than a week LOL
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SillyLittleWinky · 10/1/2025, 2:36:37 AM
Cool. Did they polygraph you? Also I heard you have to shave your beard for the academy, do you know if you still have to shave it after academy is over? Or can you ask?
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Arthumaine · 10/1/2025, 2:52:35 AM
Never did a poly for this position. As far as your beard requirements you're good to go. You can have your style as you like but neat and professional
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Arthumaine · 10/1/2025, 2:55:13 AM
No, they're not doing Poly at the moment but that can change.
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SillyLittleWinky · 10/1/2025, 3:06:58 AM
Ok cool. Is that how it is at the academy or only after?
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Arthumaine · 10/1/2025, 3:10:13 AM
During/After
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SillyLittleWinky · 10/1/2025, 3:15:24 AM
Thanks. Hope you’re liking the job. Looking forward to any other updates.
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Arthumaine · 10/1/2025, 3:41:50 AM
I'll keep you guys posted! By no mean I am an expert but I'll do my best to keep you guys informed! 🙏🏾💪🏾
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Defiant_Sink_4207 · 10/1/2025, 5:03:27 AM
Awesome thank you for the response. I am in Temecula Ca and requested San Diego so I am sure it’s in high demand. Just wanted to make sure it wasn’t an issue on my part.
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Anonymous · 10/1/2025, 6:18:52 AM
I DMed you
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DethSpringsEternal · 10/1/2025, 7:25:17 AM
They only did the 1.5 mile, sit-ups, and push-ups for the initial PAA and as far as I know, that's all they do for the final one as well.
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Arthumaine · 10/1/2025, 7:39:55 AM
Hang tight, it's hard it's worth it
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RiseAmbitious6387 · 10/1/2025, 1:13:35 PM
20 years in and close to retirement. The way things are going there is a good chance, whether you have to go to the academy or not, that you will begin this position without the access, training, or gear that you will need to be fully on the job. Use that time to learn as much as you can. ASK QUESTIONS! We are all eager for you new hires to assist, especially in offices where we have been understaffed for years. Lean on the"old timers," and understand you should never be in a position to make on the fly decisions. Most street work is vetted before going out. Noone in my office ever makes enforcement decisions unilaterally. Oh, and always try to get management to put a decisions in writing. Good luck all!
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Arthumaine · 10/1/2025, 1:59:29 PM
Thanks for your service and support! It's good to see experience DO share the light on things. Enjoy your retirement def earn it!
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Arthumaine · 10/2/2025, 1:36:15 AM
Yeah, that's about right 👍🏾
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SillyLittleWinky · 10/2/2025, 5:25:19 AM
Awesome. Also I’m curious, what did that first paycheck look like?
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Right_Letterhead3350 · 10/2/2025, 6:54:45 AM
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Godless_Love · 10/6/2025, 10:39:54 AM
I got an OJO with an EOD of today, 10/5. I have not heard ANYTHING from ANYONE!! I've emailed HR twice and even the ICE Contact Us page and nothing! I've heard of people having this happen but c'mon! Also, how soon after start of orientation did you go to FLETC?
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Nomoheroes · 10/7/2025, 6:07:00 AM
The DO for 40yrs and over closex on 9/26 if im not mistaken
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Nomoheroes · 10/7/2025, 6:14:07 AM
I applied on 8/25. Listing closed on 9/26. How long does it take to review applications?
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JUSTIN7O3 · 10/9/2025, 12:20:09 PM
This whole process is confusing, my EOD date is 10-19 with virtual orientation the next day. What will be next after that? If I’m not given the position then I don’t want to put my notice in at my current employer.
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What happens if someone you live with is an illegal migrant ? I want to apply to work as a deportation officer. Will my roommates status prevent me from being hired ? That’s the only part of the application I have to fill out left.
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promptlyConventional · 10/21/2025, 4:10:43 PM
I know a person who's an equivalent of a black belt in shooting, you're completely right. Practice outside of fletc and go whoop everyone's ass. They outperform a bunch of average military and LEOs in competitions all the time. You can absolutely learn good firearms fundamentals outside of fletc and you should.
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Going-crazy48733 · 10/23/2025, 5:37:40 AM
I applied back in late July, and have not heard anything? I applied through USA jobs .com. Could I have messed something up or have they just not gotten to my application yet? It’s been radio silent for months and I’m getting a bit worried
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castle241 · 10/27/2025, 11:43:48 AM
I have just completed my fingerprints. I am a recently retired police sergeant collecting my pension. Looks like they have offered me GL-1801-9. What am I looking at as far as academy and pay? Not sure I want to get back into full time law enforcement but ya never know.
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myeasyking · 10/31/2025, 4:26:15 PM
Did they do a PT test? Did anyone fail?
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Big_Kitchen_5083 · 11/9/2025, 1:24:50 AM
Which did you go with? I’m in the same boat but still no final offer from CBPO.
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JacketScary6464 · 11/9/2025, 1:28:28 AM
I declined the ICE official job offer. People are going into this career with the wrong mindset— making people who truly love and honor this job look bad in front of public. The mission is great but the way is being conducted. I don’t like it at all. So, that’s why I decided to declined my EOD which was this past Wednesday 11/05.
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Big_Kitchen_5083 · 11/9/2025, 3:33:45 AM
I totally understand where you’re coming from. I received my official job offer the other day and I don’t think I will be moving forward with it either, unfortunately.
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Big_Kitchen_5083 · 11/10/2025, 7:26:10 AM
Did you give your reason for declining ?
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 10:54:34 AM
Hey guys, Im an Army veteran just turned 40. i filled out a application to join ICE months ago like back in september but still havnt heard anything from them. Today i saw they posted a new hiring post so im wondering whats going on? why are they looking for more people to sign up when they havnt processed the people they already have? I might be a little on the old side but im good for duty. whats going on?
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 11:00:57 AM
By the way i am in Dallas and i chose Dallas are my duty station on the application
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 11:02:34 AM
Why is it taking them soo long to hire people? i signed up in september still havnt heard from them
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 11:05:13 AM
Im still waiting to hear back. i signed up way back in september still crickets
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 11:09:10 AM
well iv never failed a lie detector test but i think they dont want me because im an Army vet. i put my application in back in september still nothing
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 11:21:04 AM
Also i can benchpress 300 pounds so im wondering whats with ICE? why are they overlooking me? are they insane? you guys are struggling to restrain 5 foot 5 tall mexicans. you guys need my help lol
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 11/19/2025, 11:23:10 AM
Why is it taking them soo long to hire people? i signed up in september still havnt heard from them Also i can benchpress 300 pounds so im wondering whats with ICE? why are they overlooking me? are they insane? you guys are struggling to restrain 5 foot 5 tall mexicans. you guys need my help lol
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Suspicious_Ratio6762 · 11/20/2025, 12:45:11 PM
Please man dont be so gullible. There's no such thing as "they dont want me bc im a vet." That's not how it works in this new government. They dont care what you've done, they care what you can and willing to do for it.
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Nice-Freedom-9553 · 11/21/2025, 1:24:54 AM
With the piv card what security checks do you not do? Is there a specific line to enter ?
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Nice-Freedom-9553 · 11/21/2025, 1:26:24 AM
Congrats on joining ICE. I had a couple of questions. How do you like the job overall? I have an EOD coming up for ERO as a GL-7. Is the pay really around $57K, or is there additional pay on top of that? I really want this job, but the low starting pay concerns me. I also received a TJO from the Federal Protective Service as a GS-9 at around $69K. If you were in my position, which one would you choose? One more question for the PIV card process, what security scans or checks do we not do, or is there a specific line we’re supposed to use when they ask? Thank you I appreciate any advice.
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Chemical_Fan8849 · 12/9/2025, 3:39:00 AM
(ICE) Drug test complete but still havnt been contacted about background investigation or the medical exam and they have given me until the 10th to complete everything. Whats going on? do they wait until you finish the drug test results to move on to the other ones?
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SnooDrawings3778 · 12/11/2025, 4:39:57 PM
I disagree, I have been through several LE academies and outside DOE TRF 200, or very certain specific military units, have I recieved great firearms training. As a person that carries a firearm for a living, for the defense of your loved ones, and for the sake of you being accountable for every round that leaves the barrel of that firearm. Recieving professional training from a reputable training --ie. Look into USPSA trainers (GM/ M class) and a local club and get on practiscore and hit matches-- in terms of marksmanship and becoming a better shooter they will provide significantly better private lessons than you will ever recieve at an academy. In terms of tactics, standard operating procedures, etc. Forget everything you have learned when you show up and act like you are taking it all in for the 1st time. You may learn something new and helpful, and no one likes a douche that can out shoot the instructor. Lol. You're still at the academy to learn. Shooting is line a fraction of the job. You should continue to take more advanced firearms training after, the academy is literally the basics.
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Less_Comedian_2128 · 12/12/2025, 7:26:43 AM
Under current hiring, do you think I can get a waiver for a slight color vision deficiency, protan to be exact. I fail the ishiara plates but can pass a Fornsworth D-15 arrangement test. I have EOD 12/29 and the VA medical eval listed me as normal color vision on the ICE 30-048 med eval form. Will that help? Or is the FO going to send me for another medical evaluation regardless of already having been seen? Thanks in advance.
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SnooDrawings3778 · 12/13/2025, 6:35:53 PM
I got an EOD and haven't filled out on SF86/Received eQip My TS would of Expired in like 2023. So have been out of Fed service for almost 3 years and haven't filled out an SF86 since before they implemented CE. Concerned about Pulmonary Function Test for Respirator stuff as I struggle with those due to some burn pit exposure. Kind of would prefer to have everything completed prior to EOD. Thankfully my current employer is letting me take a leave of absence, still seems like the process is being rushed and they're going to end up with a bunch of Dudes at FLETC getting booted for security clearance ineligibility. Also have 2 failed BP poly's dating back to 2021 "for whatever reason the didn't give me the waiver" ish that I reported and still received EOD so it appears that if they are older they are not automatically disqualifying individuals, but who knows. like i said thankfully my current employer gave me a leave of absence.
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SnooDrawings3778 · 12/13/2025, 6:40:31 PM
5 years from now when you have to refill out SF86 maybe and a new admin is in? not sure
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OnePiecex2024 · 12/16/2025, 8:21:22 PM
Thank you for posting it has helped calm my nervous and waiting for an update! Praying for the best.
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